According to http://www.apple-history.com/8... the troll’s specs are correct, it could use up to 1GB of RAM (the last one I worked on had 256MB), and the 300MHz model was actually one of the last PPC604 computers to go into production, only months before the G3.
Whoopsshould’ve added to the first paragraph that it isn’t unreasonable to expect a AU$2,500 computer (the cost of the 15” with 1GB VRAM) to last longer than three years. It’s a durable item, not disposable.
While it would suck, I wouldn't expect a company to even call me back after my warranty has expired. Their liability has expired.
Here in Australia we have a provision in consumer law that states any item considered “durable” (meaning there’s a reasonable expectation of years of service) is covered for manufacturing or design defects regardless of how long the manufacturer’s warranty is; this is referred to as the doctrine of implied warranty. For example, there is a case where Samsung had to refund (not repair, it’s at the purchaser’s discretion) 70% of the purchase price of a TV set which failed after three years because there’s a reasonable expectation that an $8000 big screen TV should last for ten years.
Since these models are failing en masse this is clearly a manufacturing or design defect; in other words, the units had an underlying fault at the time of purchase, this isn’t just normal wear and tear. It’s illegal to sell faulty goods, so Apple remains liable despite the time elapsed before the symptoms appeared; the warranty period is actually irrelevant.
To be fair, the earliest MacPros are about to turn 8, and they're outclassed by an i7 laptop from three years ago. Any business thinking that's still a high end workstation (and hasn't written the depreciation off on tax) has bigger problems than software updates...
And BTW, my 2006 MacPro runs Mavericks just fine with a GeForce 8800GT using the drivers supplied with the OS, so your babble about 64 bit graphics drivers is nonsense (or maybe a distortion of the fact that Mavericks won't boot on a computer with 32bit UEFI, you need either a patched boot.efi file or the Chameleon bootloader). Mavericks won't work on graphics cards that don't support OpenGL 4 or OpenCL either...true, that does include most of the stock cards in the original MacPro, but in perspective that's no more surprising than a 1999 video card not supporting Windows Vista.
What can you do? Require that the owner is informed of a possible problem before any action is taken, and also require them to be present to witness and acknowledge in writing the destruction of any items. The first condition would vastly reduce mistakes, the second takes care of theft disguised as seizure. I know checked baggage doesn't always take the same route as the passenger, but if something is found in an en route search that doesn't pose an immediate threat to the aircraft the luggage item could be tagged (say, a big red sticker) and the matter dealt with at the final destination.
The problem isn't that customs inspection is pointless, I think it actually does serve a valid purpose, so shutting them down is the wrong solution. The problem is giving civil servants the power to summarily destroy property more or less at whim and without consultation; that's a bug which can be fixed without nuking the entire system.
Orangutans have a larger brain than us, and all they do is spend all day swinging around in trees, eating fresh fruit and having sex while we build cities, invent gods so we can torture ourselves with guilt, and go to war over sticky black goo in the ground.
Hmm...
Actually, it sounds like a bigger brain is better.
You wouldn't confuse the activities, perhaps, but taking the names on face value it would be easy to assume that the Hacker Scouts are affiliated with the Boy Scouts simply by being in the same field (youth groups), and that's precisely what trademark law is aimed at preventing. Put it this way: if you opened a sushi bar called "McDonalds" you'd get sued by McDonald's, because even though you're serving unmistakably different food, that name is trademarked in the restaurant business. A restaurant is a class of organisation, a youth group is a class of organisation, the little details like what's on the menu or what activities they offer are largely irrelevant as far as trademark law is concerned.
No, it isn't a fundamental problem with science; they changed what they thought when new evidence to the contrary came to light. That's exactly how science is supposed to work.
It's a test for future policy development: if they can get away with spouting crap before the election, they know they can get away with murder afterwards.
A thermocell works by having a sharp temperature differential.
Not difficult if you're starting with temperatures in excess of 130C and the air temperature is >100C lower.
Passive cooling does not cause a sharp temperate difference.
Nonsense. Heatsinks dissipate as much heat as they're designed to dissipate; a 1 degree/Watt convective heatsink will create exactly the same temperature differential as a 1 degree/Watt fan forced heatsink (though the latter will be smaller and lighter), that's why they're both rated at 1 degree/Watt. The units are the same, the rating is the same, but you're trying to argue that somehow the ability to remove heat is different...that's like saying a 40W round lightbulb uses less power than a 40W candle-shaped lightbulb.
Fan cooled heatsinks cool down quicker once the load is removed, but that's not really relevant in this application.
Passive cooling also has a limitation as the surrounding air also becomes hot unless fans are used.
I have a tower in my office with six fans that shut down when the air temperature hit 45C on three days last summer...hot air in reduces cooling efficiency with or without fans, simply because the whole system is that much closer to thermal equilibrium (taking it to the extreme, if the air is hotter heatsink the direction of heat flow is reversed. Hit a heatsink with a hairdryer and see what happens if you don't believe me, I assure you it won't get colder because there's a fan involved). But if you're talking about heat buildup inside a case, that's inadequate venting to allow convection, or incorrect thermal design. The 70-150W dissipation of a modern CPU is relatively low compared to a big transistor power amp driving a highly reactive low impedance load (a feat that's been successfully accomplished for about 50 years), passive cooling is only problematic if you don't know what you're doing.
Try running your computer without a case fan and see how long your passively cooled motherboard chip lasts.
11 years and counting from experience, but that's a 2001 iMac which was designed to use convective cooling. Tower cases aren't, so your suggestion would prove nothing except the wrong thermal design is wrong. But pull the mobo out of the case to allow good air flow, stick one of the heatsinks I linked to on it, and the die temperature of a quad core i7 3770 will hit about 85C at full load, which is high but within spec. Put it back in the case without fans or additional ventilation holes in the top and bottom and it'll catch fire because of heat buildup. Point is it isn't how you cool that matters, the heat source doesn't "know" that, just that you provide enough cooling.
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According to http://www.apple-history.com/8... the troll’s specs are correct, it could use up to 1GB of RAM (the last one I worked on had 256MB), and the 300MHz model was actually one of the last PPC604 computers to go into production, only months before the G3.
You’re being unreasonably kind to Celine Dion and Bryan Adams.
Whoopsshould’ve added to the first paragraph that it isn’t unreasonable to expect a AU$2,500 computer (the cost of the 15” with 1GB VRAM) to last longer than three years. It’s a durable item, not disposable.
While it would suck, I wouldn't expect a company to even call me back after my warranty has expired. Their liability has expired.
Here in Australia we have a provision in consumer law that states any item considered “durable” (meaning there’s a reasonable expectation of years of service) is covered for manufacturing or design defects regardless of how long the manufacturer’s warranty is; this is referred to as the doctrine of implied warranty. For example, there is a case where Samsung had to refund (not repair, it’s at the purchaser’s discretion) 70% of the purchase price of a TV set which failed after three years because there’s a reasonable expectation that an $8000 big screen TV should last for ten years.
Since these models are failing en masse this is clearly a manufacturing or design defect; in other words, the units had an underlying fault at the time of purchase, this isn’t just normal wear and tear. It’s illegal to sell faulty goods, so Apple remains liable despite the time elapsed before the symptoms appeared; the warranty period is actually irrelevant.
To be fair, the earliest MacPros are about to turn 8, and they're outclassed by an i7 laptop from three years ago. Any business thinking that's still a high end workstation (and hasn't written the depreciation off on tax) has bigger problems than software updates...
And BTW, my 2006 MacPro runs Mavericks just fine with a GeForce 8800GT using the drivers supplied with the OS, so your babble about 64 bit graphics drivers is nonsense (or maybe a distortion of the fact that Mavericks won't boot on a computer with 32bit UEFI, you need either a patched boot.efi file or the Chameleon bootloader). Mavericks won't work on graphics cards that don't support OpenGL 4 or OpenCL either...true, that does include most of the stock cards in the original MacPro, but in perspective that's no more surprising than a 1999 video card not supporting Windows Vista.
What can you do? Require that the owner is informed of a possible problem before any action is taken, and also require them to be present to witness and acknowledge in writing the destruction of any items. The first condition would vastly reduce mistakes, the second takes care of theft disguised as seizure. I know checked baggage doesn't always take the same route as the passenger, but if something is found in an en route search that doesn't pose an immediate threat to the aircraft the luggage item could be tagged (say, a big red sticker) and the matter dealt with at the final destination.
The problem isn't that customs inspection is pointless, I think it actually does serve a valid purpose, so shutting them down is the wrong solution. The problem is giving civil servants the power to summarily destroy property more or less at whim and without consultation; that's a bug which can be fixed without nuking the entire system.
You've never had hot dogs?
On a geological time scale, yes.
Doubtful...I for one felt dumber after seeing that film.
Orangutans have a larger brain than us, and all they do is spend all day swinging around in trees, eating fresh fruit and having sex while we build cities, invent gods so we can torture ourselves with guilt, and go to war over sticky black goo in the ground.
Hmm...
Actually, it sounds like a bigger brain is better.
The government is shut down!!!!11
And the money flows. Looks like the libertarians are right after all...
In fact, don't send naked pictures of yourself over the Internet to anyone.
Good advice for Slashdotters. Nobody wants to see that.
You wouldn't confuse the activities, perhaps, but taking the names on face value it would be easy to assume that the Hacker Scouts are affiliated with the Boy Scouts simply by being in the same field (youth groups), and that's precisely what trademark law is aimed at preventing. Put it this way: if you opened a sushi bar called "McDonalds" you'd get sued by McDonald's, because even though you're serving unmistakably different food, that name is trademarked in the restaurant business. A restaurant is a class of organisation, a youth group is a class of organisation, the little details like what's on the menu or what activities they offer are largely irrelevant as far as trademark law is concerned.
Of course, that was announced two years ago.
That does it! I'm not buying another thing made on this planet ever again.
You can drop in a blank ballot, draw a penis on it, or whatever you like
Problem is when you do that one gets elected.
No, it isn't a fundamental problem with science; they changed what they thought when new evidence to the contrary came to light. That's exactly how science is supposed to work.
An accurate description of politics is indistinguishable from absurdism.
So instead of murder they'll limit future policy to the severe beatings the electorate seems to enjoy.
It's a test for future policy development: if they can get away with spouting crap before the election, they know they can get away with murder afterwards.
So was... well, you see where I'm going with this.
I'm pretty sure going to the toilet in the middle of the night costs as much as it ever did (unless you count accidentally dropping your phone in).
But wait...if "nothing" compares to you, doesn't that mean he's calling someone a twat?
Translation: In Shakespeare's time, "nothing" was another slang word for female genitalia.
I'm never going to listen to this song again the same way...
And they say newspapers are obsolete...
A thermocell works by having a sharp temperature differential.
Not difficult if you're starting with temperatures in excess of 130C and the air temperature is >100C lower.
Passive cooling does not cause a sharp temperate difference.
Nonsense. Heatsinks dissipate as much heat as they're designed to dissipate; a 1 degree/Watt convective heatsink will create exactly the same temperature differential as a 1 degree/Watt fan forced heatsink (though the latter will be smaller and lighter), that's why they're both rated at 1 degree/Watt. The units are the same, the rating is the same, but you're trying to argue that somehow the ability to remove heat is different...that's like saying a 40W round lightbulb uses less power than a 40W candle-shaped lightbulb.
Fan cooled heatsinks cool down quicker once the load is removed, but that's not really relevant in this application.
Passive cooling also has a limitation as the surrounding air also becomes hot unless fans are used.
I have a tower in my office with six fans that shut down when the air temperature hit 45C on three days last summer...hot air in reduces cooling efficiency with or without fans, simply because the whole system is that much closer to thermal equilibrium (taking it to the extreme, if the air is hotter heatsink the direction of heat flow is reversed. Hit a heatsink with a hairdryer and see what happens if you don't believe me, I assure you it won't get colder because there's a fan involved). But if you're talking about heat buildup inside a case, that's inadequate venting to allow convection, or incorrect thermal design. The 70-150W dissipation of a modern CPU is relatively low compared to a big transistor power amp driving a highly reactive low impedance load (a feat that's been successfully accomplished for about 50 years), passive cooling is only problematic if you don't know what you're doing.
Try running your computer without a case fan and see how long your passively cooled motherboard chip lasts.
11 years and counting from experience, but that's a 2001 iMac which was designed to use convective cooling. Tower cases aren't, so your suggestion would prove nothing except the wrong thermal design is wrong. But pull the mobo out of the case to allow good air flow, stick one of the heatsinks I linked to on it, and the die temperature of a quad core i7 3770 will hit about 85C at full load, which is high but within spec. Put it back in the case without fans or additional ventilation holes in the top and bottom and it'll catch fire because of heat buildup. Point is it isn't how you cool that matters, the heat source doesn't "know" that, just that you provide enough cooling.