Guess what, they just lost a sale. It will actually be easier and more convenient to get the pirated version, of I suddenly decide to play this crappy game.
Due to Opera not opening up their browser, people can't make addins like Firefox.
That has got nothing to do with open source. You can make addons for Firefox because it has an API for that. Opera could easily add one as well without opening the browser's code.
Now even Chrome has overtaken Opera
No it hasn't. Opera is still the #3 browser worldwide according to StatCounter. In Europe, Opera's market share is higher than Safari and Chrome's combined.
The only problem Opera has is that no body is using it on the PC platform
Opera has more than 40 million PC users, and growing. It's bigger than Safari and Chrome combined in Europe. It's #3 and bigger than Safari and Chrome worldwide as well, but not by that much. Opera is the #1 browser in countries like Russia.
It is an underdog mainly because it makes up such a tiny portion of the browser market
Then Safari and Chrome are as well. Opera is bigger than Safari and Chrome combined in Europe. It's #3 and bigger than Safari and Chrome worldwide as well, but not by that much. Opera is the #1 browser in countries like Russia.
Both Mozilla and Opera could have reached some agreement with the H.264 patent-holders if they wanted to.
That doesn't matter. For HTML5 to become a W3C recommendation, it cannot contain licensed technology. There is nothing Opera or Mozilla can do about that.
The reason Mozilla and Opera refuse to implement H.264 is on principle: they're only willing to support open standards unless they absolutely have no other choice (e.g., Flash).
Uh, no. Flash is not an example of that. Flash is a PLUGIN using a plugin API. There is no specific Flash support in Mozilla or Opera. The plugin API is an open standard.
Apple and Google are both much more pragmatic about what standards their browsers support.
Actually, Apple wants to protect QuickTime from competition. Pragmatic my ass.
Oh, but they did join the complaint. Both Google and Mozill have spoken extensively on the subject, and they fully support the complaint, and joined to help push the matter.
Ignoring the odd European attitude that success is somehow evil and must be punished
I have never heard about this attitude in Europe. And Microsoft is certainly not being punished for its success. It's being punished for breaking the law!
Opera does fine as a mobile browser, but sucks (and has sucked for the better part of a decade) as a desktop browser
Opera's desktop browser is excellent, as a matter of fact.
while others (e.g., Firefox) have managed to gain significant market share in the face of Microsoft's alleged misbehavior.
Actually, Opera is the #3 browser worldwide. It is also #3 in Europe, where it's bigger than Chrome and Safari combined! So clearly, only Firefox has succeeded at gaining significant market share. Even Google with its vast advertising resources has failed to make a dent after nearly a year! And remember, Safari is the default browser on Mac.
The fact is, Firefox is evidence that the market is broken, as Mozilla points out:
"When the only real competition comes from a not for profit open source organization that depends on volunteers for almost half of its work product and nearly all of its marketing and distribution, while more than half a dozen other "traditional" browser vendors with better than I.E. products have had near-zero success encroaching on Microsoft I.E.'s dominance, there's a demonstrable tilt to the playing field. That tilt comes with the distribution channel - default status for the OS bundled Web browser."
That Opera's management couldn't succeed in the desktop marketplace, and instead co-opted some politicians to extort Microsoft into helping distribute their product is rent seeking of the highest order.
Actually, all Opera did was to report Microsoft's criminal activity to the authorities. Mozilla and Google soon joined, fully supporting the complaint and offering their help as interested third parties, exactly like Opera. Also, your racist, xenophobic argument fails for the simple fact that Opera is ahead of both Chrome and Safari in market share. Apparently it's more important for you to lie about Opera than to actually realize that companies like Google and Mozilla are fully backing the complaint as well.
It's rather like if I create a bad tasting drink in my bathtub, then get the government to force Coke and Pepsi to include one bottle of my drink in every six pack they sell.
Actually, it's like if you create a tasty drink, but a dominant player in the market uses its market power to illegaly prevent you from entering the market. You undermine the free market, you face the consequences.
Anyway, you have yet to show how a company which is the #3 browser worldwide and in Europe, and which is seeing massive growth in the market segment where you claim they have "failed" has actually failed. Desktop revenue up more than 100% doesn't sound like "failure" to me.
We need to ensure that when you click the "Publish document" button, or use the "Invite collaborators" option, we have the license to carry out your wishes.
Um, why do they need that? You give them a "license" them moment you click the "publish" button!
Apparently, these loans were handed out all over the place just before the bank collapsed. So they all got free money. Someone knew the bank was going down the drain, so they decided to give free money to their buddies and insiders(!).
Actually, Opera's market share on the desktop is groing, and is about 3%. The desktop user base doubled in less than 2 years. In Europe, Opera is the #3 browser, with a higher market share than Safari and Chrome combined, and closing in on 10%. Your trolling fails again, Microsoft shill:D
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Scandinavian is a language?
As I said to the other guy: All the money from the sale will go to charitable organizations. They aren't getting a dime for themselves.
Actually, all the money from the sale will go to charitable organizations. They aren't getting a dime for themselves.
Guess what, they just lost a sale. It will actually be easier and more convenient to get the pirated version, of I suddenly decide to play this crappy game.
A good living? Hardly.
And guess what, Hickson didn't make a single dime from that page.
Yes, you would likely be crying after he's done stuffing his penis in your cavities...
Why do you think the experiment was unethical?
Blame RIM for no proper Opera for Blackberries. They apparentlu refuse to share important info with Opera.
As I said to the other guy, you can blame RIM for no proper Opera for Blackberries. They apparentlu refuse to share important info with Opera.
That has got nothing to do with open source. You can make addons for Firefox because it has an API for that. Opera could easily add one as well without opening the browser's code.
No it hasn't. Opera is still the #3 browser worldwide according to StatCounter. In Europe, Opera's market share is higher than Safari and Chrome's combined.
Opera has more than 40 million PC users, and growing. It's bigger than Safari and Chrome combined in Europe. It's #3 and bigger than Safari and Chrome worldwide as well, but not by that much. Opera is the #1 browser in countries like Russia.
Then Safari and Chrome are as well. Opera is bigger than Safari and Chrome combined in Europe. It's #3 and bigger than Safari and Chrome worldwide as well, but not by that much. Opera is the #1 browser in countries like Russia.
Opera is bigger than Safari and Chrome combined in Europe.
They are being dishonest about it. There's no bigger danger of such issues with Theora than with their codec of choice.
That doesn't matter. For HTML5 to become a W3C recommendation, it cannot contain licensed technology. There is nothing Opera or Mozilla can do about that.
Uh, no. Flash is not an example of that. Flash is a PLUGIN using a plugin API. There is no specific Flash support in Mozilla or Opera. The plugin API is an open standard.
Actually, Apple wants to protect QuickTime from competition. Pragmatic my ass.
Oh, but they did join the complaint. Both Google and Mozill have spoken extensively on the subject, and they fully support the complaint, and joined to help push the matter.
I have never heard about this attitude in Europe. And Microsoft is certainly not being punished for its success. It's being punished for breaking the law!
Opera's desktop browser is excellent, as a matter of fact.
Actually, Opera is the #3 browser worldwide. It is also #3 in Europe, where it's bigger than Chrome and Safari combined! So clearly, only Firefox has succeeded at gaining significant market share. Even Google with its vast advertising resources has failed to make a dent after nearly a year! And remember, Safari is the default browser on Mac.
The fact is, Firefox is evidence that the market is broken, as Mozilla points out:
"When the only real competition comes from a not for profit open source organization that depends on volunteers for almost half of its work product and nearly all of its marketing and distribution, while more than half a dozen other "traditional" browser vendors with better than I.E. products have had near-zero success encroaching on Microsoft I.E.'s dominance, there's a demonstrable tilt to the playing field. That tilt comes with the distribution channel - default status for the OS bundled Web browser."
Actually, all Opera did was to report Microsoft's criminal activity to the authorities. Mozilla and Google soon joined, fully supporting the complaint and offering their help as interested third parties, exactly like Opera. Also, your racist, xenophobic argument fails for the simple fact that Opera is ahead of both Chrome and Safari in market share. Apparently it's more important for you to lie about Opera than to actually realize that companies like Google and Mozilla are fully backing the complaint as well.
Actually, it's like if you create a tasty drink, but a dominant player in the market uses its market power to illegaly prevent you from entering the market. You undermine the free market, you face the consequences.
Anyway, you have yet to show how a company which is the #3 browser worldwide and in Europe, and which is seeing massive growth in the market segment where you claim they have "failed" has actually failed. Desktop revenue up more than 100% doesn't sound like "failure" to me.
Um, why do they need that? You give them a "license" them moment you click the "publish" button!
What on earth are you talking about?
So you think the people doing the arrest were the ones who ordered the arrest?
How about replying for once?
Apparently, these loans were handed out all over the place just before the bank collapsed. So they all got free money. Someone knew the bank was going down the drain, so they decided to give free money to their buddies and insiders(!).
Companies like Mozilla and Opera are making good money off of free web browsers.
Actually, Opera's market share on the desktop is groing, and is about 3%. The desktop user base doubled in less than 2 years. In Europe, Opera is the #3 browser, with a higher market share than Safari and Chrome combined, and closing in on 10%. Your trolling fails again, Microsoft shill :D