It's simply not fair that when you download a film that you don't get the extras, a disc and all that wonderful packaging. It's also not fair that the quality of the downloaded content isn't as good as a full DVD of the same film. Apple should be forced to include all of these features so that there are equivalent items being bought by the consumer.
Then, maybe, just maybe, Target and Wal-Mart will actually have an argument.
Jobs said that you would be getting the new resolution videos for free as long as you had purchased them before. I've been getting mine for free and the picture quality was an improvement. I wonder if it's the studios involved in the process that are doing it wrong.
Well, I don't see that any of them are really overpriced. They each have their value at the price they're listed at, IMO. Feature based, I like the PS3. Value vs feature, I like the 360. Value alone, I like the Wii.
Check out your own damn link.
...if it becomes a bit higher than $59, don't ding me...
Wow, I must've been blind to miss that part....
Well, I don't agree that that little bit of doubletalk turns into a lock that games will be more than $60. But, I can see how it could be interpreted that way. Only time will tell. You can take his statement either way, but the "if" says what Sony's been saying about everything all along, not much. At this point, none of the Sony games are listing for more than $60 while many of the 360 titles are $70. It's very possible Sony will follow MS into the "special edition" versions costing $70. As long as they see that MS is getting away with it and still making good sales numbers, I would expect Sony to follow suit.
The 360 is 400 without a game. So, this generation isn't the same as it was with the 3DO. The only system that cost that much back then was the 3DO and ALL the other big players at the time were around 200. The playing field is more spread out this time if not flipped completely. Considering that two of the three consoles are over 300 would indicate that this is more like the opposite situation that happened with the 3DO.
Heck, add on the HD-DVD option and the wireless adaptor option to a premium XBox 360 in order to match it up against the PS3 feature for feature and the price of the 360 is 700. So, while back in the days of the 3DO there was one system which was very very expensive and today you've got the majority of the systems being expensive.
Check Best Buy and Amazon or GameStop or EBGames to check the pricing. The 360 and PS3 titles are 60 (except for some 360 games at 70) and the Wii titles are 50. It doesn't matter what speculation was made, it matters what the prices actually are and here in the US, they're 60 for PS3 titles.
"Generally speaking, over the past twelve years or so, there has been a consumer expectation that disc based games are maybe $59 on the high end to $39 on the low end. So, what I can say now is, I think it would be a bit of a stretch to think that we could suddenly turn around and say 'PS3 games now $99.99'."
From Kaz Hirai. So, where did he say that games were going to be that expensive? It doesn't come across that way in that interview. Seems that your understanding of the quote might have been wrong. It is a rumor, seemingly based upon that interview. Unless, of course, you have a link to Kaz making the statement you claim he made.
None of this changes the fact that Sony is not duplicating the behavior of failed past systems as proposed by the AC that I originally responded to.
The 3DO was $700 when every other system at that time was around $200. How can you claim that the PS3 is in that league? The 3DO was more than triple the price of the competition at the time. If you add in the cost of the wireless adaptor and the HD-DVD to the price of the 360, it's more expensive feature for feature than the PS3. Your comparison falls short here.
The PS3 games in the US are at the same $60 price point that 360 games and Wii games. You're buying into the rumors that haven't been confirmed.
XBox barely has the titles that it was supposed to launch with available, nearly a year later. Gears of War was due to be released a week after the launch of the 360. It's a "first generation" title by your standards. Most of the EA titles that are coming out are merely enhancements to the stripped down versions which came out at launch. I would hardly call current 360 titles "second generation" due to these facts.
The PS3 will create the popularity behind Blu-Ray. There have been, supposedly, about 20k HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players sold since April of this year. In November, Sony is going to flood the market with half a million players. HD-DVD will have a whole hell of a lot of catching up to do then. Besides that, comparing this to CDi and SegaCD is a bit odd seeing as how the PSOne did the same thing and took the industry by storm. Then the PS2 did the same thing for DVD. Your comparisons don't make sense in that context.
Full Backwards Compatibility. A third generation gaming machine. Pushing new standards, like in the past. Your arguments fall apart and your predictions probably will too.
Tides and menstrual cycles are run by the relation to the orbit of the moon around the Earth. So, this is a completely valid question. I'd love to know why this is considered a troll.
Not exactly true. The Motorola phones with iTMS support will also play FairPlay encoded files and any computer you have authorized to play the tracks you purchase through the iTMS will also play those same files.
The way that you wrote it: "...Apple's fault for picking a crappy battery supplier...", you were suggesting that LG is "crappy". The fact that you didn't know it was LG at the time is where you made your mistake. If you had written: "...Apple's fault if/when they pick a crappy battery supplier...", then what you claim would be correct, but you didn't and that's why you are wrong. If you aren't precise then you're the only one that can interpret what you write properly.
I NEVER said the supplier is not responsible.
Apple is still 100% responsible for picking them, for setting the standards, etc....
Your use of "etc" and "100%" indicates that you felt that Apple is completely responsible for the situation. If that wasn't your intention then you should've been more clear. I didn't pull anything out of the air, I simply responded to your posts as you presented them, whether or not you presented it well or the way you intended isn't my problem. See, you've still got the same problem, you write in an ambiguous way, whether you intend to or not. That leads to situations where you are the only one that truly knows what it is that you are trying to say.
... you're just turning into a completely nonsensical rant...
Call me a rant will you?!? Why I oughta... Now who's being non-sensical?:p
Well, you're right about one thing, I do feel better having the last word. Thanks.
You don't fail to see me point, you refuse to acknowledge it. You made the point about the "crappy" supplier in the first place.
Umm, what? How is it possibly NOT Apple's fault for picking a crappy battery supplier?
I pointed out that LG isn't considered "crappy". Certainly Apple chose them, they didn't choose a "crappy" manufacturer as you suggested, however, they picked a reputable company.
Besides that, Apple has done their part and recalled the laptops in question to replace the batteries. They've accepted more than their share of the responsibility and they've done so at their expense both monetarily and PR-wise.
Seemingly by your reasoning that Apple is 100% responsible LG gets to go on their merry way and do as they see fit, only suffering the loss of Apple as a customer. That's simply not right. The burden of responsibility lies upon LG as well for producing an inferior product. They should be held equally accountable if not more so.
I haven't read anywhere that the MBP's "dropped the discharge voltage below [their] acceptable threshold". I hope that you would direct me to the relevant information.
I've seen a video of someone overcharging a laptop battery beyond it's threshold which caused it to swell and explode. I wouldn't have expected what you are describing to cause the effect that has happened here. I am of the impression that this problem is a very small percentage of the batteries out there and that it's due to a defect in the manufacturing process of the batteries.
The assumption you've made is that the reason behind the batteries failing is due to excessive heat. There have been no reports to support this assumption.
The earlier reports of excessive heat issues have been rectified with software updates and in some cases with the removal of a strip of plastic that have been left in the vent and wouldn't allow for proper ventilation.
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eBay started cancelling the auctions, no idea why.
At least one of the units was over $1300. There are now more that are at $1000 and going up...
I've heard that they will be available on Friday...
It's simply not fair that when you download a film that you don't get the extras, a disc and all that wonderful packaging. It's also not fair that the quality of the downloaded content isn't as good as a full DVD of the same film. Apple should be forced to include all of these features so that there are equivalent items being bought by the consumer.
Then, maybe, just maybe, Target and Wal-Mart will actually have an argument.
Jobs said that you would be getting the new resolution videos for free as long as you had purchased them before. I've been getting mine for free and the picture quality was an improvement. I wonder if it's the studios involved in the process that are doing it wrong.
I can see this as a possibility.
Interesting timing. Pricing article just popped up over at GameSpot and Ars Technice confirming the $60 pricing of PS3 games for pre-order at the Sony Style store.
There's also some speculation that MS will be reducing game prices for the 360 to offer a competitive edge over the PS3.
Wow, I must've been blind to miss that part....
Well, I don't agree that that little bit of doubletalk turns into a lock that games will be more than $60. But, I can see how it could be interpreted that way. Only time will tell. You can take his statement either way, but the "if" says what Sony's been saying about everything all along, not much. At this point, none of the Sony games are listing for more than $60 while many of the 360 titles are $70. It's very possible Sony will follow MS into the "special edition" versions costing $70. As long as they see that MS is getting away with it and still making good sales numbers, I would expect Sony to follow suit.
Heck, add on the HD-DVD option and the wireless adaptor option to a premium XBox 360 in order to match it up against the PS3 feature for feature and the price of the 360 is 700. So, while back in the days of the 3DO there was one system which was very very expensive and today you've got the majority of the systems being expensive.
Check Best Buy and Amazon or GameStop or EBGames to check the pricing. The 360 and PS3 titles are 60 (except for some 360 games at 70) and the Wii titles are 50. It doesn't matter what speculation was made, it matters what the prices actually are and here in the US, they're 60 for PS3 titles.
From Kaz Hirai. So, where did he say that games were going to be that expensive? It doesn't come across that way in that interview. Seems that your understanding of the quote might have been wrong. It is a rumor, seemingly based upon that interview. Unless, of course, you have a link to Kaz making the statement you claim he made.
None of this changes the fact that Sony is not duplicating the behavior of failed past systems as proposed by the AC that I originally responded to.
The 3DO was $700 when every other system at that time was around $200. How can you claim that the PS3 is in that league? The 3DO was more than triple the price of the competition at the time. If you add in the cost of the wireless adaptor and the HD-DVD to the price of the 360, it's more expensive feature for feature than the PS3. Your comparison falls short here.
The PS3 games in the US are at the same $60 price point that 360 games and Wii games. You're buying into the rumors that haven't been confirmed.
XBox barely has the titles that it was supposed to launch with available, nearly a year later. Gears of War was due to be released a week after the launch of the 360. It's a "first generation" title by your standards. Most of the EA titles that are coming out are merely enhancements to the stripped down versions which came out at launch. I would hardly call current 360 titles "second generation" due to these facts.
The PS3 will create the popularity behind Blu-Ray. There have been, supposedly, about 20k HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players sold since April of this year. In November, Sony is going to flood the market with half a million players. HD-DVD will have a whole hell of a lot of catching up to do then. Besides that, comparing this to CDi and SegaCD is a bit odd seeing as how the PSOne did the same thing and took the industry by storm. Then the PS2 did the same thing for DVD. Your comparisons don't make sense in that context.
Full Backwards Compatibility. A third generation gaming machine. Pushing new standards, like in the past. Your arguments fall apart and your predictions probably will too.
You're kidding right? On the 360 I beat the game in under twelve hours and completed all of the side stuff in another six. How is this game hard?
Well, if you were trying to force it down someone's throat, it would appear that you were playing something other than "Spank the monkey". :D
LionsGate announced in August that they'd be part of the new movie store. So, why does Variety appear to be reporting otherwise?
I'm another opinion, just like you pal. ;)
Everybody has them, but nobody wants to hear from anyone else's.
For a title that got an 8.4 from Gamespot reviewers and a 9.0 from the players, I'd have to say that this reviewer is just another opinion.
Why is this a troll?!?!?!!?
Tides and menstrual cycles are run by the relation to the orbit of the moon around the Earth. So, this is a completely valid question. I'd love to know why this is considered a troll.
Will women stop having their periods?
Glad to see that someone in this country still thinks.
Not exactly true. The Motorola phones with iTMS support will also play FairPlay encoded files and any computer you have authorized to play the tracks you purchase through the iTMS will also play those same files.
It was Circuit City. It was a flop.
So, it's free how? The Mac version still has a $249 price-tag. The update is free though.
Well, you're right about one thing, I do feel better having the last word. Thanks.
Thanks for pointing that out. I don't know if what that poster claims is what would happen, but I also don't know that it wouldn't...
I pointed out that LG isn't considered "crappy". Certainly Apple chose them, they didn't choose a "crappy" manufacturer as you suggested, however, they picked a reputable company.
Besides that, Apple has done their part and recalled the laptops in question to replace the batteries. They've accepted more than their share of the responsibility and they've done so at their expense both monetarily and PR-wise.
Seemingly by your reasoning that Apple is 100% responsible LG gets to go on their merry way and do as they see fit, only suffering the loss of Apple as a customer. That's simply not right. The burden of responsibility lies upon LG as well for producing an inferior product. They should be held equally accountable if not more so.
I haven't read anywhere that the MBP's "dropped the discharge voltage below [their] acceptable threshold". I hope that you would direct me to the relevant information.
I've seen a video of someone overcharging a laptop battery beyond it's threshold which caused it to swell and explode. I wouldn't have expected what you are describing to cause the effect that has happened here. I am of the impression that this problem is a very small percentage of the batteries out there and that it's due to a defect in the manufacturing process of the batteries.
Who's to say that the supplier is "crappy"? Who's to say that it wasn't just a bad batch? South Korean laptop battery manufacturer LG Chem is likely to run into problems securing additional orders from Apple Computer after the computer maker last month was forced to recall 128,000 of the LG Chem-made batteries. Apple appears to have done the right thing and recalled them anyhow...
These days, LG is hardly considered "crappy" in any of their endeavors, these days.
The assumption you've made is that the reason behind the batteries failing is due to excessive heat. There have been no reports to support this assumption.
The earlier reports of excessive heat issues have been rectified with software updates and in some cases with the removal of a strip of plastic that have been left in the vent and wouldn't allow for proper ventilation.
South Korean laptop battery manufacturer LG Chem is likely to run into problems securing additional orders from Apple Computer after the computer maker last month was forced to recall 128,000 of the LG Chem-made batteries. This sounds more like it's the manufacturer LG Chem, than it is Apple...