Isnt penicilin(sp) some sort of bacteria (or related)? Does this mean the doctor will give me a case of beer with my medicine to extend the life of the medicine? Or would the beer make it die faster, and make it less efficient?
That thing is soo complicated to understand. =( Can someone point out to me exactly where it talks about 'disclosure of passwords' so I can read it, and understand all the details, not the general panic of "OH NO I HAVE TO GIVE MY PASSWORD TO THEM!?"
I beg to differ. =) Linus has said on multiple occasions that he doesn't care about Microsoft, nor Bill Gates. He doesn't even brag at the fact that an OS originally inteded to be run on only his machine has put a dent in Microsoft's monopoly attempt. Just because you hate Mr Gates, and his evil empire, doesn't mean you can attack him with Open Source! The entire Open Source community doesn't hate Bill Gates, some don't even care what he's doing (see: Linus Travolds). Don't use OSS's name to flame Gates and Microsoft, because your voice does not represent the entire Open Source community.
Don't blame the economy and walk away. The economy ha been shit before. And Sept 11th really sucked. But god damnit, don't think that just cuz times are tough people are gonna give up. My mom worked for a company for 24 years, made it up to production supervisor of the entire plant. Two months ago her possition was eliminated. Sure.. lets blame it on the economy when theirs 2 guys that have been at the plant for 2 years, both are making 80K a year, and don't know a god damned thing about the company. My point being. I think alot of companies out there are doing stupid shit they dont' _have_ to do, they wanted to do it. And this gives them a good excuse to do it while its still wrong.
Mission Statement The Recording Industry Association of America is the trade group that represents the U.S. recording industry. Our mission is to foster a business and legal climate that supports and promotes our members' creative and financial vitality. Our members are the record companies that comprise the most vibrant national music industry in the world. RIAA members create, manufacture and/or distribute approximately 90% of all legitimate sound recordings produced and sold in the United States.
In support of our mission, we work to protect intellectual property rights worldwide and the First Amendment rights of artists; conduct consumer, industry and technical research; and monitor and review - - state and federal laws, regulations and policies. The RIAA also certifies Gold, Platinum, Multi-Platinum[tm], and Diamond sales awards, and recently launched Los Premios De Oro y Platino[tm], a new award celebrating Latin music sales.
Taken from here. (About us section)(Oh please don't hit me with the DMCA for using the text on your website! pfft!)
The way I understand this is that they work to help out record companies, NOT the artists. How pathetic.. You guys aren't fighting to protect artists from losses from copyright infringement, you fight to keep money in your pocket!
Kinda interesting what all is out there. Now, add on top of that all of those evil spam sending servers that are behind firewalls on 'reserved' ip blacks. Its kinda crazy thinking about all the stuff thats out there that no one will ever see. I always figured anything sensative for military use would be stored on a proprietary government network. But now that I think of it. If they put it on some obscure ip block and give it no hostname, who will ever find it? Wonder if they found my secret porn stash when they were probing all them blocks. =)
I think this is pretty awesome, but I'd be concerned about how accurate it is. I can usually tell when I nail a wrong key, and I can tell I've already hit the backspace about 5 times typing this.
So instead of being able to type while your looking at something, you'd have to keep looking at the damn screen correct? I think this would be more of a pain in the ass than anything else. Unless of course your in a chat room or something.
Not really. Some people might see this as a threat to linux in general. But still. Even if Microsoft manages to take out a few linux operations, its not going to hurt that much, they'll never turn over the linux developers. As far as business, linux was never intended as a business product, look how far it has come on its own. Add onto that, even if they snuff out the big companies, they'll still never get the people who truly want to run Linux. I for one could give a shit about what corp america is running on their mainframes, because its not going to effect what I run on my home machine. Nor is it going to affect what I'm running on my 12 servers. All 12 production servers run linux, and after playing with a win2000 IIS server, I'd never go back. Microsoft, I'm one customer you'll never turn, have all your reps call me, I don't care how strong your sales team is, you'll never sell me anything.
I think this would be great! If I found a service that didn't cost to much (under $300/month?), could be used on our mail server, and would promise to eliminate 95% or more of the spam our users and I get, I would definately get the company to pay for it. We may be a small ISP, but paying $300/month to rid our users and us of SPAM would definately be worth it
On the other hand, when we put a similar product on our servers that filtered out about 25-50% of spam (real time black listing), we actually had a user call up and complain that he _wasn't_ getting his porn advertisments anymore! You just can't win! heh.
I don't use microsoft products either. But when nimda infected how many damn IIS servers, my poor little T1 sure as hell noticed it when all those IIS machines started scanning my servers.
How about when sircam started e-mailing random documents to anyone in the address book. I got a load of random files for absolutely no reason at all. An inadvertant spam.
Just because you don't use Microsoft products doesn't mean Microsoft products can't be used to attack your machine(s). Indirectly, your still effected somtimes.
I played with *nix for about 5 years (at night, when I should have been in bed so I wouldn't sleep in high school). After high school, I made a pathetic attempt to start my own PC repair shop in a small town, when that folded I was offered a job as a *shutter* web developer. I took that job (crappy pay).
About 3 months ago the Systems and Network admin left when we purchased a web development company and web hosting company. With this purchase came a new webdeveloper, and I said 'BOING! I'll take over the sys/net admin job!' And viola, here I am. I imagine after a few years, I can probably throw a resume out there and land alot better paying job in a bigger company, but I'm happy for now.
Our company is really small btw, 1 Sys/net admin, 1 web developer, 1 webdeveloper/vb programmer(ew), we run linux on 12 servers. We provide dialup access for 1500 customers and webhosting for about 50 customers.
I get alot of freedom here, and I like that. As far as certification, I would say get experience first, then get a certification. Sometimes thats not possible, but *shrugs*. I got this far, and I'm happy with what I've accomplished to this date. Reading some of these other posts has also given me a few new ideas for furthering my career goal.
The truth is their is no really 'out of box(tm)' method of getting there, except for:
Start Small
Know what your doing
Get experience
maybe get a cert
Does anyone have the numbers on how much RIA and MPAA have spent via lobbying, bribing congress, etc.. trying to prevent the free spread of music? Now, does anyone have the numbers they said they lost in sales due to napster? Lets compare the two. My guess is that the music industry is spending more money trying to fight this than they'd actually lose if they'd just let it go. But I don't have any exact numbers, so I will have to leave it at a guess.
On a lighter note, I do believe at some music award show about 10-13 years ago, Metallica won an award, and forgive me for not having the EXACT quote, but I think it was somewhere along the lines of "we write music because we love to make music, and we love the fans, we don't do it for the money". If anyone can find an old video archive of that show, I'd LOVE to see it, and I'd LOVE to see it posted all over how hipocritical the 'big players' in the music industry can be, if that is really what they said.
I could really care less about bashing Metallica, I'd just like the truth to be known if thats what it was.
already been done? I do believe that one of the Cray models had a 'liquid cooled CPU', or something to that effect. I never saw the specifics on how it was done, if it was just the CPU, or if it was the whole machine being cooled that way.
I also remember someone else (Penguincomputing?) having the '1st commercial liquid cooled PC', which was a 1.6 Ghz(2x800Mhz) Dual Athlon.
Either way, its really cool to see this same technology replicated for private use.
I ran across an archive at OSDN.com that had a video from the 2.5 Kernel Summit (March 30th and 31st 2001). On the list of videos is 'Future VM Work presented by Rik Van Riel. Its a 1 Hour 4 Minute Video clip, but after listening to it for 5 minutes I knew it was WAY too technical for me. =P Anyways, if you want to see what he said about improving VM, head over to:
Regardless of what the article almost implied (that Cox and Linus were at dispute), this is good news for the kernel. From the sounds of it this new VM will make quite a difference from a performance aspect. I could almost care what people are fighting about. As long as new features get implimented, or the system is revamped to improve performance/stability, I'll be happy. And thats what the point is here... A new VM is going to be implimented, and its supposed to kick butt. So enjoy it and quit squabling about weather or not Cox and Linus are fighting!
I'm not saying its not the responsibility of the admins to secure their network and machines. Bad adminstration can probably be linked to more than half of the hacks that go on (I cannot confirm that number).
But, at the same time, if I leave the door to my house unlocked, and someone identifies that the door is unlocked, yeah, I'm dumb for leaving it unlocked, but they have no right to go into my house and read my private documents (take money, kick the dog, steal underwear, etc whatever they do).
Atleast they have to leave their houses now! I think thats alot better than sitting on their 13 year old butt, downloading hax0r.c from a friend, and making weak site administrators "ph34r their 31337 script-kiddie sk1llz." =P
I work at a webhosting compnay (Very small). And the other day one of my customers (a bank), asked me what OS I was running. When I replied 'Linux', he totally amazed me with what he said next. 'You trust linux?'. This really offended me at first. Then he went on to say, 'Why not a more practical OS, like BSD, HP-UX, or Solaris?'. Not to bash BSD, but when did it become as 'practicle' as Solaris or HP-UX?
On top of that, what is wrong with a well hardened linux box that is going to be solved with a BSD, HP, or Solaris system?
Regardless, I'm VERY happy to see Amazon move from a *caugh* 'practical' *caugh* OS to an 'obviously working' Linux solution. GO TUX!
The proposed settlement also adds an important enforcement provision that provides for a panel of three independent, on-site, full-time computer experts to assist in enforcing the proposed Final Judgment. These experts will have full access to all of Microsoft's books, records, systems, and personnel, including source code, and will help resolve disputes about Microsoft's compliance with the disclosure provisions in the Final Judgment.
Independent? That means what? They didn't come from the DOJ, and are just another "certified, reputable expert"? (Possibly a MS basher)
full access to systems? AND source code???
Egads man! Independent+full access to source and machines. This would scare me slightly if I was MS. I'm sure they have some unbelievable security. But obviously their would be concern in this case. I'm sure their aren't many MS employees that have this much access.
I understand that access needs to be there for obvious enforcement reasons, but if I was MS, it would just scare the hell outta me (in a security sense).
Hrm.. I'm trying to figure something out here. Obviously the DMCA peoples and RIAA will be all over this one eventually. The question of the day for me is, how would you build in an effective digital rights management system without causing alot of problems?
I certainly have no idea how to look at 2 mp3s, and say, 'Uh, this person owns this cd', or 'Uh, it was downloaded from napster! Evil copyright infringment person!!!!"
I'm wondering if it is set up to only store mp3's that are ripped IN that unit, with no other method of transport. But that doesn't stop someone from copying someone elses CD, then ripping it. Or borrowing the CD for a day, and ripping it that way. I hate to rant on and on about the DMCA, but even though they won congress over, they are still fighting an uphill battle.
I've used slackware since I started out on linux about 5 or 6 years ago. I tried out debian one time, only to be disgusted by the menus. I'm not saying its a bad distro, I just prefered a nice config file or compile over apt-get and all their other menus (Which is nice when you don't have the time to sit and compile everything).
Hrm.. This is a good point. The initial theory I was going with was that if they didn't support it, no one planning to use their service would buy it. Thus making an effective dent, maybe. But, as I think about this more, it will probably go the other direction.
On top of that, RoadRunner has no straight forward reason to 'Battle' Microsoft. The fact that AOL/TW owns them, _SHOULDN'T_ matter. We all know how well that works out =P. But really, what would AOL/TW be battling.. MSN Services? That probably wouldn't do them any good. Especially when their current customers that upgrade to XP would require support, not get it and possibly leave.
To end my ranting here... Upon re-consideration of the idea, I agree with you.
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Isnt penicilin(sp) some sort of bacteria (or related)? Does this mean the doctor will give me a case of beer with my medicine to extend the life of the medicine? Or would the beer make it die faster, and make it less efficient?
That thing is soo complicated to understand. =( Can someone point out to me exactly where it talks about 'disclosure of passwords' so I can read it, and understand all the details, not the general panic of "OH NO I HAVE TO GIVE MY PASSWORD TO THEM!?"
The reason Open Source thrives is to spite you.
I beg to differ. =) Linus has said on multiple occasions that he doesn't care about Microsoft, nor Bill Gates. He doesn't even brag at the fact that an OS originally inteded to be run on only his machine has put a dent in Microsoft's monopoly attempt. Just because you hate Mr Gates, and his evil empire, doesn't mean you can attack him with Open Source! The entire Open Source community doesn't hate Bill Gates, some don't even care what he's doing (see: Linus Travolds). Don't use OSS's name to flame Gates and Microsoft, because your voice does not represent the entire Open Source community.
Don't blame the economy and walk away. The economy ha been shit before. And Sept 11th really sucked. But god damnit, don't think that just cuz times are tough people are gonna give up. My mom worked for a company for 24 years, made it up to production supervisor of the entire plant. Two months ago her possition was eliminated. Sure.. lets blame it on the economy when theirs 2 guys that have been at the plant for 2 years, both are making 80K a year, and don't know a god damned thing about the company. My point being. I think alot of companies out there are doing stupid shit they dont' _have_ to do, they wanted to do it. And this gives them a good excuse to do it while its still wrong.
Mission Statement The Recording Industry Association of America is the trade group that represents the U.S. recording industry. Our mission is to foster a business and legal climate that supports and promotes our members' creative and financial vitality. Our members are the record companies that comprise the most vibrant national music industry in the world. RIAA members create, manufacture and/or distribute approximately 90% of all legitimate sound recordings produced and sold in the United States.
In support of our mission, we work to protect intellectual property rights worldwide and the First Amendment rights of artists; conduct consumer, industry and technical research; and monitor and review - - state and federal laws, regulations and policies. The RIAA also certifies Gold, Platinum, Multi-Platinum[tm], and Diamond sales awards, and recently launched Los Premios De Oro y Platino[tm], a new award celebrating Latin music sales.
Taken from here. (About us section)(Oh please don't hit me with the DMCA for using the text on your website! pfft!)
The way I understand this is that they work to help out record companies, NOT the artists. How pathetic.. You guys aren't fighting to protect artists from losses from copyright infringement, you fight to keep money in your pocket!
Kinda interesting what all is out there. Now, add on top of that all of those evil spam sending servers that are behind firewalls on 'reserved' ip blacks. Its kinda crazy thinking about all the stuff thats out there that no one will ever see. I always figured anything sensative for military use would be stored on a proprietary government network. But now that I think of it. If they put it on some obscure ip block and give it no hostname, who will ever find it? Wonder if they found my secret porn stash when they were probing all them blocks. =)
I think this is pretty awesome, but I'd be concerned about how accurate it is. I can usually tell when I nail a wrong key, and I can tell I've already hit the backspace about 5 times typing this.
So instead of being able to type while your looking at something, you'd have to keep looking at the damn screen correct? I think this would be more of a pain in the ass than anything else. Unless of course your in a chat room or something.
Backspace used: about 25-40 times
Here is a live video feed. 56K, 100K, and 300K Real Video.
Not really. Some people might see this as a threat to linux in general. But still. Even if Microsoft manages to take out a few linux operations, its not going to hurt that much, they'll never turn over the linux developers. As far as business, linux was never intended as a business product, look how far it has come on its own. Add onto that, even if they snuff out the big companies, they'll still never get the people who truly want to run Linux. I for one could give a shit about what corp america is running on their mainframes, because its not going to effect what I run on my home machine. Nor is it going to affect what I'm running on my 12 servers. All 12 production servers run linux, and after playing with a win2000 IIS server, I'd never go back. Microsoft, I'm one customer you'll never turn, have all your reps call me, I don't care how strong your sales team is, you'll never sell me anything.
I think this would be great! If I found a service that didn't cost to much (under $300/month?), could be used on our mail server, and would promise to eliminate 95% or more of the spam our users and I get, I would definately get the company to pay for it. We may be a small ISP, but paying $300/month to rid our users and us of SPAM would definately be worth it
On the other hand, when we put a similar product on our servers that filtered out about 25-50% of spam (real time black listing), we actually had a user call up and complain that he _wasn't_ getting his porn advertisments anymore! You just can't win! heh.
I don't use microsoft products either. But when nimda infected how many damn IIS servers, my poor little T1 sure as hell noticed it when all those IIS machines started scanning my servers.
How about when sircam started e-mailing random documents to anyone in the address book. I got a load of random files for absolutely no reason at all. An inadvertant spam.
Just because you don't use Microsoft products doesn't mean Microsoft products can't be used to attack your machine(s). Indirectly, your still effected somtimes.
I played with *nix for about 5 years (at night, when I should have been in bed so I wouldn't sleep in high school). After high school, I made a pathetic attempt to start my own PC repair shop in a small town, when that folded I was offered a job as a *shutter* web developer. I took that job (crappy pay).
About 3 months ago the Systems and Network admin left when we purchased a web development company and web hosting company. With this purchase came a new webdeveloper, and I said 'BOING! I'll take over the sys/net admin job!' And viola, here I am. I imagine after a few years, I can probably throw a resume out there and land alot better paying job in a bigger company, but I'm happy for now.
Our company is really small btw, 1 Sys/net admin, 1 web developer, 1 webdeveloper/vb programmer(ew), we run linux on 12 servers. We provide dialup access for 1500 customers and webhosting for about 50 customers.
I get alot of freedom here, and I like that. As far as certification, I would say get experience first, then get a certification. Sometimes thats not possible, but *shrugs*. I got this far, and I'm happy with what I've accomplished to this date. Reading some of these other posts has also given me a few new ideas for furthering my career goal.
The truth is their is no really 'out of box(tm)' method of getting there, except for:
Start Small
Know what your doing
Get experience
maybe get a cert
Thats the only advice I can give =)
Does anyone have the numbers on how much RIA and MPAA have spent via lobbying, bribing congress, etc.. trying to prevent the free spread of music? Now, does anyone have the numbers they said they lost in sales due to napster? Lets compare the two. My guess is that the music industry is spending more money trying to fight this than they'd actually lose if they'd just let it go. But I don't have any exact numbers, so I will have to leave it at a guess.
On a lighter note, I do believe at some music award show about 10-13 years ago, Metallica won an award, and forgive me for not having the EXACT quote, but I think it was somewhere along the lines of "we write music because we love to make music, and we love the fans, we don't do it for the money". If anyone can find an old video archive of that show, I'd LOVE to see it, and I'd LOVE to see it posted all over how hipocritical the 'big players' in the music industry can be, if that is really what they said.
I could really care less about bashing Metallica, I'd just like the truth to be known if thats what it was.
already been done? I do believe that one of the Cray models had a 'liquid cooled CPU', or something to that effect. I never saw the specifics on how it was done, if it was just the CPU, or if it was the whole machine being cooled that way.
I also remember someone else (Penguincomputing?) having the '1st commercial liquid cooled PC', which was a 1.6 Ghz(2x800Mhz) Dual Athlon.
Either way, its really cool to see this same technology replicated for private use.
I ran across an archive at OSDN.com that had a video from the 2.5 Kernel Summit (March 30th and 31st 2001). On the list of videos is 'Future VM Work presented by Rik Van Riel. Its a 1 Hour 4 Minute Video clip, but after listening to it for 5 minutes I knew it was WAY too technical for me. =P Anyways, if you want to see what he said about improving VM, head over to:
http://www.osdn.com/conferences/kernel
They have Real format in both 56K and 128K streams, Mpeg, and Mp3 of his speach. Looks interesting if you've got the bandwidth and the time.
Regardless of what the article almost implied (that Cox and Linus were at dispute), this is good news for the kernel. From the sounds of it this new VM will make quite a difference from a performance aspect. I could almost care what people are fighting about. As long as new features get implimented, or the system is revamped to improve performance/stability, I'll be happy. And thats what the point is here... A new VM is going to be implimented, and its supposed to kick butt. So enjoy it and quit squabling about weather or not Cox and Linus are fighting!
I'm not saying its not the responsibility of the admins to secure their network and machines. Bad adminstration can probably be linked to more than half of the hacks that go on (I cannot confirm that number).
But, at the same time, if I leave the door to my house unlocked, and someone identifies that the door is unlocked, yeah, I'm dumb for leaving it unlocked, but they have no right to go into my house and read my private documents (take money, kick the dog, steal underwear, etc whatever they do).
Atleast they have to leave their houses now! I think thats alot better than sitting on their 13 year old butt, downloading hax0r.c from a friend, and making weak site administrators "ph34r their 31337 script-kiddie sk1llz." =P
I work at a webhosting compnay (Very small). And the other day one of my customers (a bank), asked me what OS I was running. When I replied 'Linux', he totally amazed me with what he said next. 'You trust linux?'. This really offended me at first. Then he went on to say, 'Why not a more practical OS, like BSD, HP-UX, or Solaris?'. Not to bash BSD, but when did it become as 'practicle' as Solaris or HP-UX?
On top of that, what is wrong with a well hardened linux box that is going to be solved with a BSD, HP, or Solaris system?
Regardless, I'm VERY happy to see Amazon move from a *caugh* 'practical' *caugh* OS to an 'obviously working' Linux solution. GO TUX!
Any fantasies you have that the state of Iowa is going to force the breakup of Microsoft are just that.
Iowa? He said Utah. Regardless, Neither Iowa or Utah are going to force a breakup. I'd have to agree with you on this.
The proposed settlement also adds an important enforcement provision that provides for a panel of three independent, on-site, full-time computer experts to assist in enforcing the proposed Final Judgment. These experts will have full access to all of Microsoft's books, records, systems, and personnel, including source code, and will help resolve disputes about Microsoft's compliance with the disclosure provisions in the Final Judgment.
Independent? That means what? They didn't come from the DOJ, and are just another "certified, reputable expert"? (Possibly a MS basher)
full access to systems? AND source code???
Egads man! Independent+full access to source and machines. This would scare me slightly if I was MS. I'm sure they have some unbelievable security. But obviously their would be concern in this case. I'm sure their aren't many MS employees that have this much access.
I understand that access needs to be there for obvious enforcement reasons, but if I was MS, it would just scare the hell outta me (in a security sense).
I'm not too savy on Solaris, but I do know that I like that CDE!
Hrm.. I'm trying to figure something out here. Obviously the DMCA peoples and RIAA will be all over this one eventually. The question of the day for me is, how would you build in an effective digital rights management system without causing alot of problems?
I certainly have no idea how to look at 2 mp3s, and say, 'Uh, this person owns this cd', or 'Uh, it was downloaded from napster! Evil copyright infringment person!!!!"
I'm wondering if it is set up to only store mp3's that are ripped IN that unit, with no other method of transport. But that doesn't stop someone from copying someone elses CD, then ripping it. Or borrowing the CD for a day, and ripping it that way. I hate to rant on and on about the DMCA, but even though they won congress over, they are still fighting an uphill battle.
I've used slackware since I started out on linux about 5 or 6 years ago. I tried out debian one time, only to be disgusted by the menus. I'm not saying its a bad distro, I just prefered a nice config file or compile over apt-get and all their other menus (Which is nice when you don't have the time to sit and compile everything).
Hrm.. This is a good point. The initial theory I was going with was that if they didn't support it, no one planning to use their service would buy it. Thus making an effective dent, maybe. But, as I think about this more, it will probably go the other direction.
On top of that, RoadRunner has no straight forward reason to 'Battle' Microsoft. The fact that AOL/TW owns them, _SHOULDN'T_ matter. We all know how well that works out =P. But really, what would AOL/TW be battling.. MSN Services? That probably wouldn't do them any good. Especially when their current customers that upgrade to XP would require support, not get it and possibly leave.
To end my ranting here... Upon re-consideration of the idea, I agree with you.