You have some pretty shitty logic working for ya bub.
US carriers have had a blacklist for almost 2 years.
And if a phone is stolen, people are not expected to get a replacement?
If a phone is stolen, whether it works or not, the owner should not replace it?
You have also not lived in the rest of the world. I am a citizen of spain, the us, Colombia, and Panama, I can drag a stolen phone to the other countries I am a citizien of, and have it work, or buy a stolen phone and it will not be blacklisted.
I work for one of the largest cell carriers in the US as a tech manager. So when I am not managing my troops, I am taking escalated calls from angry customers who just have to speak to a manager.
99.9 percent of my stolen "you need to find my iphone calls" are people who have left it in a bar, in a cafe, in a cab, in starbucks, etc, so they consider it stolen... And when I ask if they had the find my iphone app, they say "arent you supposed to do that".
I am a natural born US citizen of Colombian heritage.
My first degree was a double major of Information Systems/General Business and a minor in Philosophy. I got it in the US, at Nicholls State University in Thibodaux, Louisiana in 1992. My tuition, meal ticket, apartment, insurance, and spending money was 4,000 us a semester. 1500 hundred was covered by grants, and the rest was me waiting tables and bartending.
My second degree was in economics in Colombia at a private university. 2000 was the year and my tuition was about 1200 USD a semester. Just for tuition. I worked for the university in the computer science department and was a sub ESL teacher, and so my tuition was waived.
I also had a wild hair and studied law for a bit a public university but al fin no me llamo la atencion.
I have worked in Colombia, Argentina, Peru, Ecuador, and Mexico. The company I worked for specialized in letting computer science majors do their internships and then hired the best of the best.
In the US students tend to work while in school. In Latin America some do, but the majority do not. It is almost a insult to suggest to a Latin American student that they have an after school job. Not too mention the 18-20 year old grown men not being able to cook, wash clothes, and basically take care of themselves without being under their mothers skirts.
Sure some of the best unis in Latin America, are state run. In Colombia only the best of the best get into them.
In the US many people can go to a community college, then to a public uni etc. But people like to get grants, loans, stay in school forever, live beyond their means, and accumulate debt. It is not the school systems fault but the individual students. You can go to an inexpensive school, work full or part time, or you can ride the government teat and run up huge loans. No one signs the papers but you.
I will say this on my public account.
I work for AT&T for the last year all you have to do is call customer service, we can see the phone was originally on your account and we can blacklist it, 30 seconds.
And company policy no rep would have told you it was on another account, be it pay as you go or post paid.
Really,
I am Colombian citizen and Colombia is a country where people tend to steal your shoes if they are not tied tightly to your feet.
Third world denizens tend to carry their expensive equipment in their hands as a show of wealth, and they get marked and the phones are easily stolen.
I lived on and off in Colombia for years with expensive phones and never got them stolen.
Why? I do not use them on the bus, the bar, or in the street. Stop using your smartphone as a status symbol in public.
I agree with the analogy fail, but if the Ipad is not removed from the mothers account, reset or not, then it is useless even if it is reset, because without being removed they cannot link it to another account to buy apps/content/ or use all of Apples whizbang features.
That is like saying my mother passed and while she bequeathed me her possessions she didnt explicitly say what I was left in her safety deposit box, so I only get the box and the bank gets the rest.
Even if they do reset it that IPAD is going to be linked to their mothers.me/Icloud account and and so any imessages or Apple specific services that the heirs want to use, will be linked to their mothers account, and therefore not usable. Because unless it is removed from the moms account, they cannot link it with their own.
So, they cannot have full use of it without access to the account/device.
Really? I just found about 50 games that are multiplayer, including nights of the old republic...
Of course in my day my parents held conversations with me in public...
Iphone 4 Antennae issue, at first they denied it, then they said you were holding it wrong, then they sent you a rubber bumper for it instead of replacing it....
While the intention was definitely good, I personally would not want to use a machine that the could be remotely accessed in such a mannter.
True, something like anti-virus software self-updating and removing a threat would be acceptable to most users. But this is more akin buying a car and discovering the manufacturer has a master key and a representative can come over and drive it around whenever he/she wants, and it's fully legal and you can't do anything about it.
Well, it's just that MSRT runs and executes a find and destroy script. In this case, it looked for a special version of Tor that the malware installed in a special location and configured in a special way. That way it would not destroy legitimate Tor installations.
And you have the option of not running it, if you really wanted to - you still own the machine.
It's the same as if you set your Linux box to self-update - are the updates it downloads able to remove other software? Yes. In fact, it's expected during updates that new versions remove old versions. And sometimes they also remove other software that are no longer prerequisites.
Sure you have the option to not do it, just like you have the option to not run the update.
In the end, for better or for worse, I think it's important that we actually own the devices we buy and pay for. Cases like this, and similar ones with Kindles and mobile devices remotely being accessed and modified or used to spy on us, are strong evidence that we do not. (I know that this particular case is not a big deal in of itself, but the fact that Microsoft can do what it did is not good news.)
It's really no different on any OS - updates automatically apply and they can remove stuff at will too.
Probably the most interesting thing is that Apple, of all companies, has not actually shown the need to remove apps remotely. We know they have the capability to disable apps (only the ones using CoreLocation, though), and they have removed apps from the store. But they have not removed apps from people's iTunes libraries, nor removed the ability of deleted apps to run, period. As long as you have a copy somewhere, it can be installed on other devices using iTunes long after it's been removed.
Heck, even when Disney forced the removal of its movies from Amazon and iTunes, they still play if you have a copy on your hard drive! Which can be copied to other devices or streamed to your AppleTV just fine. It only screwed you if you didn't already have a downloaded copy.
Funny how the most "walled" of walled gardens hasn't yet needed to flex its abilities. Even Steam has removed games from people's libraries (granted, the game didn't work anymore, but still - people paid for the game, and Valve deleted it!)
Apple has stopped apps from working, which is the same from removing apps. Look at Siri on iphones from the 4 on down. It is apples to apples, and there are many others they have stopped.
Apple can remotely remove and disable apps from the Iphone..
Also, when Apple took down the original Siri servers, and only allowed the 4s to connect, not everyone else who had the App working on previous Idevices, they suddenly had a non working app. Which is the same as removing it. And Apple did this to force upgrades...
Shady dealers such as those little kiosks in malls, Walmarts, Radio Shacks, and Best Buys, all sell Iphones. I spend most of my day calming down customers whose accounts were screwed up because of all of those places.
Also to the OP, Walmart, Best Buy, all offer deep discounts on the Iphone. They were selling the 5s for 125 over the holidays...
As someone who works for the company you mentioned. Our unlimited data plans for Smart Phones were originally $20 dollars before the Iphone.
Apple pushed us to raise the price of unlimited data so it could be a premium service for a premium product. And I imagine that extra 10 dollars went to Apple for some years.
You are wrong. I work for AT&T(have since 2002) and there are areas we are in where consumers have the choice between Uverse, Comcast, or Timewarner.
In my home town I can get Century Link or Cox.
There are plenty of areas across the US that have multiple providers in the same market.
Untrue.
You can get a Galaxy S4, and HTC One for.99c for free, or a Nokia 920 compared to the the 5s that runs between $125 and $199.
You can get an S3 free whereas the the 5c runs between $25 and & $99./i work for a major Telecom and I have to keep track of pricing of who is selling what, for how much, and where.
Not really. Let me clue you on two major Telecoms who have done the exact opposite.
Tmobile you have have to now pay full price for the phones, they just spread it over two years by dividing the full retail price of the phone by 24 months and then adding that number to your monthly statement until the phone is paid off. So no subsidy.
AT&T copied that model with the NEXT program.
Both companies only allow this if you credit qualify for the programs.
Otherwise with T-Mobile you have to at least pay 30-40% of the phone retail cost upfront and then still pay a monthly note.
AT&T if you do not qualify for it you do get the regular subsidy route but the upfront costs are higher.
Both companies offer cheaper monthly rates if you bring your own equipment.
Apparently the googles does not work in Vancouver.
Here is from HPs own support page on how to do it.
The LaserJet 1015 x64 printer driver that ships with Windows 7 works just fine with the 1012. Install it explicity with "Add A Printer", it won't be detected by plugging in the printer.
I work for ATT and you either got an iphone made by the hand of god himself, or you are lying. Or you make 2 1 minute calls a day.
One of our biggest complaints when I get customers escalated to me is that the phone is only a year old and the batter does not keep a charge. I seriously doubt a six year old iphone is that marvelous. Of course a six year old iphone did not have all the newer technology that sucks battery, so you might have a shred of truth, but Apple is the king of planned obsolescence. So either you are rocking a regular 2g or a 3g.
As for the other poster he is correct.
I get a call escalated today. Iphone 5 user has a broken power button.
Customer goes to Apple and they tell her it is $135 us to replace it, and they cannot guarantee it will work, that it could also be the screen that is effected, that she is better off getting a new phone.
She calls one of our reps furious. I found a local repair shop for her via the internet, and they fixed it for 20 bucks, with a 3 month warranty.
If you have a broken screen, you can get it repaired at Radio Shack for 70 bucks.
They build in obsolescence and then instruct their geniuses to overcharge for repairs so they can make the case to just buy a new phone.
Really? Apples IAD network is driven by data culled from users of Itunes, Iradio etc. Iad is sold as "targeted by exclusive consumption data exclusive to Apple." Buy you joining their network, you are buying this data, ergo Apple is selling it.
You might want to read up on it. http://advertising.apple.com/
Microsoft also has their own ad network, where the data they sell is gleaned from their own sources.
http://advertise.bingads.microsoft.com/en-us/sign-up?mkt=en-us
The Motoroal Defy is a military spec waterproof, shockproof, and heatproof phone. It is built so you do not need a case, his point was that if you are an environment that warrants a tough phone they are available. Samsung also makes one called the Rugby.
You have some pretty shitty logic working for ya bub. US carriers have had a blacklist for almost 2 years. And if a phone is stolen, people are not expected to get a replacement? If a phone is stolen, whether it works or not, the owner should not replace it? You have also not lived in the rest of the world. I am a citizen of spain, the us, Colombia, and Panama, I can drag a stolen phone to the other countries I am a citizien of, and have it work, or buy a stolen phone and it will not be blacklisted.
I work for one of the largest cell carriers in the US as a tech manager. So when I am not managing my troops, I am taking escalated calls from angry customers who just have to speak to a manager. 99.9 percent of my stolen "you need to find my iphone calls" are people who have left it in a bar, in a cafe, in a cab, in starbucks, etc, so they consider it stolen... And when I ask if they had the find my iphone app, they say "arent you supposed to do that".
I am a natural born US citizen of Colombian heritage. My first degree was a double major of Information Systems/General Business and a minor in Philosophy. I got it in the US, at Nicholls State University in Thibodaux, Louisiana in 1992. My tuition, meal ticket, apartment, insurance, and spending money was 4,000 us a semester. 1500 hundred was covered by grants, and the rest was me waiting tables and bartending. My second degree was in economics in Colombia at a private university. 2000 was the year and my tuition was about 1200 USD a semester. Just for tuition. I worked for the university in the computer science department and was a sub ESL teacher, and so my tuition was waived. I also had a wild hair and studied law for a bit a public university but al fin no me llamo la atencion. I have worked in Colombia, Argentina, Peru, Ecuador, and Mexico. The company I worked for specialized in letting computer science majors do their internships and then hired the best of the best. In the US students tend to work while in school. In Latin America some do, but the majority do not. It is almost a insult to suggest to a Latin American student that they have an after school job. Not too mention the 18-20 year old grown men not being able to cook, wash clothes, and basically take care of themselves without being under their mothers skirts. Sure some of the best unis in Latin America, are state run. In Colombia only the best of the best get into them. In the US many people can go to a community college, then to a public uni etc. But people like to get grants, loans, stay in school forever, live beyond their means, and accumulate debt. It is not the school systems fault but the individual students. You can go to an inexpensive school, work full or part time, or you can ride the government teat and run up huge loans. No one signs the papers but you.
I will say this on my public account. I work for AT&T for the last year all you have to do is call customer service, we can see the phone was originally on your account and we can blacklist it, 30 seconds. And company policy no rep would have told you it was on another account, be it pay as you go or post paid.
Really, I am Colombian citizen and Colombia is a country where people tend to steal your shoes if they are not tied tightly to your feet. Third world denizens tend to carry their expensive equipment in their hands as a show of wealth, and they get marked and the phones are easily stolen. I lived on and off in Colombia for years with expensive phones and never got them stolen. Why? I do not use them on the bus, the bar, or in the street. Stop using your smartphone as a status symbol in public.
I agree with the analogy fail, but if the Ipad is not removed from the mothers account, reset or not, then it is useless even if it is reset, because without being removed they cannot link it to another account to buy apps/content/ or use all of Apples whizbang features.
That is like saying my mother passed and while she bequeathed me her possessions she didnt explicitly say what I was left in her safety deposit box, so I only get the box and the bank gets the rest. Even if they do reset it that IPAD is going to be linked to their mothers .me/Icloud account and and so any imessages or Apple specific services that the heirs want to use, will be linked to their mothers account, and therefore not usable. Because unless it is removed from the moms account, they cannot link it with their own.
So, they cannot have full use of it without access to the account/device.
Actually it does. http://lifehacker.com/netflixb...
As I pointed out earlier, it is not. http://android.appstorm.net/ro...
Really? I just found about 50 games that are multiplayer, including nights of the old republic... Of course in my day my parents held conversations with me in public...
Iphone 4 Antennae issue, at first they denied it, then they said you were holding it wrong, then they sent you a rubber bumper for it instead of replacing it....
Well, it's just that MSRT runs and executes a find and destroy script. In this case, it looked for a special version of Tor that the malware installed in a special location and configured in a special way. That way it would not destroy legitimate Tor installations.
And you have the option of not running it, if you really wanted to - you still own the machine.
It's the same as if you set your Linux box to self-update - are the updates it downloads able to remove other software? Yes. In fact, it's expected during updates that new versions remove old versions. And sometimes they also remove other software that are no longer prerequisites.
Sure you have the option to not do it, just like you have the option to not run the update.
It's really no different on any OS - updates automatically apply and they can remove stuff at will too.
Probably the most interesting thing is that Apple, of all companies, has not actually shown the need to remove apps remotely. We know they have the capability to disable apps (only the ones using CoreLocation, though), and they have removed apps from the store. But they have not removed apps from people's iTunes libraries, nor removed the ability of deleted apps to run, period. As long as you have a copy somewhere, it can be installed on other devices using iTunes long after it's been removed.
Heck, even when Disney forced the removal of its movies from Amazon and iTunes, they still play if you have a copy on your hard drive! Which can be copied to other devices or streamed to your AppleTV just fine. It only screwed you if you didn't already have a downloaded copy.
Funny how the most "walled" of walled gardens hasn't yet needed to flex its abilities. Even Steam has removed games from people's libraries (granted, the game didn't work anymore, but still - people paid for the game, and Valve deleted it!)
Apple has stopped apps from working, which is the same from removing apps. Look at Siri on iphones from the 4 on down. It is apples to apples, and there are many others they have stopped.
I work for AT&T and we have plans that give you 15$ off once your phone is out of contract.
Apple can remotely remove and disable apps from the Iphone.. Also, when Apple took down the original Siri servers, and only allowed the 4s to connect, not everyone else who had the App working on previous Idevices, they suddenly had a non working app. Which is the same as removing it. And Apple did this to force upgrades...
Shady dealers such as those little kiosks in malls, Walmarts, Radio Shacks, and Best Buys, all sell Iphones. I spend most of my day calming down customers whose accounts were screwed up because of all of those places. Also to the OP, Walmart, Best Buy, all offer deep discounts on the Iphone. They were selling the 5s for 125 over the holidays...
As someone who works for the company you mentioned. Our unlimited data plans for Smart Phones were originally $20 dollars before the Iphone. Apple pushed us to raise the price of unlimited data so it could be a premium service for a premium product. And I imagine that extra 10 dollars went to Apple for some years.
You are wrong. I work for AT&T(have since 2002) and there are areas we are in where consumers have the choice between Uverse, Comcast, or Timewarner. In my home town I can get Century Link or Cox. There are plenty of areas across the US that have multiple providers in the same market.
Untrue. You can get a Galaxy S4, and HTC One for .99c for free, or a Nokia 920 compared to the the 5s that runs between $125 and $199.
You can get an S3 free whereas the the 5c runs between $25 and & $99. /i work for a major Telecom and I have to keep track of pricing of who is selling what, for how much, and where.
Not really. Let me clue you on two major Telecoms who have done the exact opposite. Tmobile you have have to now pay full price for the phones, they just spread it over two years by dividing the full retail price of the phone by 24 months and then adding that number to your monthly statement until the phone is paid off. So no subsidy. AT&T copied that model with the NEXT program. Both companies only allow this if you credit qualify for the programs. Otherwise with T-Mobile you have to at least pay 30-40% of the phone retail cost upfront and then still pay a monthly note. AT&T if you do not qualify for it you do get the regular subsidy route but the upfront costs are higher. Both companies offer cheaper monthly rates if you bring your own equipment.
Apparently the googles does not work in Vancouver. Here is from HPs own support page on how to do it. The LaserJet 1015 x64 printer driver that ships with Windows 7 works just fine with the 1012. Install it explicity with "Add A Printer", it won't be detected by plugging in the printer.
Sorry, but Blackberry is from Canada.
I work for ATT and you either got an iphone made by the hand of god himself, or you are lying. Or you make 2 1 minute calls a day. One of our biggest complaints when I get customers escalated to me is that the phone is only a year old and the batter does not keep a charge. I seriously doubt a six year old iphone is that marvelous. Of course a six year old iphone did not have all the newer technology that sucks battery, so you might have a shred of truth, but Apple is the king of planned obsolescence. So either you are rocking a regular 2g or a 3g. As for the other poster he is correct. I get a call escalated today. Iphone 5 user has a broken power button. Customer goes to Apple and they tell her it is $135 us to replace it, and they cannot guarantee it will work, that it could also be the screen that is effected, that she is better off getting a new phone. She calls one of our reps furious. I found a local repair shop for her via the internet, and they fixed it for 20 bucks, with a 3 month warranty. If you have a broken screen, you can get it repaired at Radio Shack for 70 bucks. They build in obsolescence and then instruct their geniuses to overcharge for repairs so they can make the case to just buy a new phone.
My Defy has gone down 20 feet with no problem.
Really? Apples IAD network is driven by data culled from users of Itunes, Iradio etc. Iad is sold as "targeted by exclusive consumption data exclusive to Apple." Buy you joining their network, you are buying this data, ergo Apple is selling it. You might want to read up on it. http://advertising.apple.com/ Microsoft also has their own ad network, where the data they sell is gleaned from their own sources. http://advertise.bingads.microsoft.com/en-us/sign-up?mkt=en-us
The Motoroal Defy is a military spec waterproof, shockproof, and heatproof phone. It is built so you do not need a case, his point was that if you are an environment that warrants a tough phone they are available. Samsung also makes one called the Rugby.