I read the wikipedia write-up on Net Neutrality but it looks to me like it means whatever you want it to mean. So if someone says "I support Network Neutrality" here on slashdot, what does that mean to us?
Personally, I oppose legislation governing traffic and I want ISPs to give equal priority to each packet/frame/whatever that they handle -- so do I support "Net Neutrality"?
...to get what you want, you have to maintain a credible threat to vote for the third party, but if you actually do it then you're both totally screwed.
You're saying that you're screwed if you vote for a 3rd party candidate and a major party candidate wins? What do you think will happen if you vote for a major party candidate?
As for pulling voters (gullible or otherwise) let's look at two scenarios. Both scenarios contain the same candidates, but show two different voters' views of them (Note: the Nolan chart isn't necessary to make this point):
Scenario 1:
Candiate A = 90% liberal
Candiate B = 60% liberal
Candiate C = 60% conservative
Candiate D = 90% conservative
Scenario 2:
Candiate A = 90% liberal
Candiate B = 10% liberal
Candiate C = 10% conservative
Candiate D = 90% conservative
If you see things as described in scenario #1, then voting for the "lesser of two evils" probably makes sense since the difference between your 3rd party candidate and the major party candidate is less than the difference between the two major candidates.
But if you see things as described in scenario #2, that there's not much difference between the major party candidates, then there isn't much risk in the 3rd party vote. You get a chance to vote your conscience and end up with something either a smidge to the left or right, but almost indistinguishable from your point of view.
Anyway, if you see things like scenario #2 and think that voting for the "lesser of two evils" is a good use of your vote, all power to you.
Agreed, it is a lot easier for the winner to be creative with his interpretations of the results. The hope is that the losing major party will consider those lost votes when developing their platform the next time around.
Most 3rd party voters that I know consider the two major parties very similar. So the lesser of two evils isn't really all that much less. The urgency to keep the other party out of office isn't a strong consideration, so the possible gain in 3rd party consideration down the road is worth the risk of a slightly more evil winning today.
The OP's question would be moot if we had an election system that was friendlier to the 3rd party vote (instant runoff, approval voting, etc)
If your 3rd party vote total exceeds the difference between the two "evils," you're sending a message that the loser needs to look at pretty seriously. He might have won had he embraced some of your politics. Your return on this vote investment may be 4 years down the road (or never), but a vote for one of the "evils" will be interpreted as a mandate for his platform. I'd say it's even more important in a close race to vote for your 3rd party.
We had the JIT (just in time) manufacturing wave hit our plant about 10 years ago. When people want processes to run faster, but can't get them to do so, they come up with names for new technologies that should solve their problems -- before developing the technologies.
Don't worry if you miss this current trend, there will be new names for working faster next year.
The box that I'm typing this message from was originally installed w/8.0. I made the leap to 8.1, then 9.0, and I'm currently on -mostly-current (I pick 'n' choose). All upgrades, with no reinstall. I tried an upgrade from Solaris 2.6 to 7, but had to run a fresh install of 7 after a month or so. Upgrade experiences in windows-land were similar. In short, the *only* OS that I've been able to upgrade w/out reformatting and starting from scratch is slackware.
And before I get flamed for not being able to upgrade windows or solaris, the point I'm trying to make should be more of a reflection on slackware's ease of upgrade than my incompetance in solaris or windows administration. You may want to point out to the slack users you know that there's usually an upgrade.txt file on the CD to walk you through the upgrade. No problems here so far.
All the source info for his work is publicly available, no problem there. If he compiles public information and provides some analysis which is considered "sensitive," why not classify it? You're still free to compile the same information and do your own analysis, dude.
I have to go with the OP on this one. So you see I have an SSL connection to a server, how do you know if I'm checking my webmail or checking my savings account?
I don't doubt that most folks were using unencrypted POP3 connections, I just question the accuracy of the percentages they quote.
Blacklists work pretty good for me. The MTA responsible for my email drops the connection from blacklisted IPs instead of accepting and segregating messages. And the few spams that do get through are forwarded to the "abuse" address of the netblock from which they came -- no repeat offenders for 2003 so far. I don't see what the big deal is, everyone just needs to do their part.
How many of you actually report the spam and how many of you cry and throw tantrums about the X number of spams they got today without doing anything about it?
It'd be interesting to see the various different "throwaway" e-mail addresses people use
I use the domain of the offending website if a throwaway address is required. So if I were signing up for something at yahoo, I'd use yahoo@yahoo.com or something like that.
Mod parent up. You can easily have a job that is condusive to telecommuting, but if you work for a bunch of morons, they'll say "Your start time is at 7... I want to see you at your desk!"
I write for my org, but if that need died out, I'd probably try sales or consulting since the company itself is pro-telecommuting.
Good point, perhaps the tax angle isn't a good example. But management consulting should include the PR angle, personnel deployment, and finance. Who knows, it might even include some superficial tax advice if the consultant has the right background -- not tactical tax advice, but strategic. At any rate, they can offer more than hardware and software.
This acquisition makes perfect sense. Just as corporate security requires much more than just securing the computers, offering business solutions requires more than just offering hardware and software. When IBM's clients are faced with a business problem, IBM can now offer not only hardware and software, but solutions for the tax angle, the public relations angle, etc. My guess is that they've been looking to do something like this for a while, and now there's a 60% off sale going on at the NYSE.
I looked into registering for their site, but the "Subscriber Agreement" link points to no such document. So by clicking on the button I'm agreeing to something that I'm not allowed to read? Has it always been like this or has the link recently become broken?
Anyway, I tried to use the posted accounts (nospam/nospam, private/private, and nospam/bitch) but none worked. Does NYT only allow "x" number of logons per account?
I primarily use a broadband based VPN, but have dial-up access as my backup.
If my company's VPN/remote access servers are unavailable, I keep a list of "offline" work to do that helps kill time. This usually means reading PDFs that I've downloaded, or writing emails (to be sent once I can get back online), or anything else that doesn't require connectivity.
It helps to replicate/mirror my company's internal resources too (web sites, files on file servers, databases). You need a big hard drive, but it beats the hard drive into the office (ugh... bad I know, but it's saturday).
Slashdot Mirror
I read the wikipedia write-up on Net Neutrality but it looks to me like it means whatever you want it to mean. So if someone says "I support Network Neutrality" here on slashdot, what does that mean to us?
Personally, I oppose legislation governing traffic and I want ISPs to give equal priority to each packet/frame/whatever that they handle -- so do I support "Net Neutrality"?
All comments welcome -- flames too -- I'm lost.
TIA
You're saying that you're screwed if you vote for a 3rd party candidate and a major party candidate wins? What do you think will happen if you vote for a major party candidate?
I'm not sure I understand...is this an argument for voting for a major party?
I agree with your point about the primaries.
As for pulling voters (gullible or otherwise) let's look at two scenarios. Both scenarios contain the same candidates, but show two different voters' views of them (Note: the Nolan chart isn't necessary to make this point):
Scenario 1:
Candiate A = 90% liberal
Candiate B = 60% liberal
Candiate C = 60% conservative
Candiate D = 90% conservative
Scenario 2:
Candiate A = 90% liberal
Candiate B = 10% liberal
Candiate C = 10% conservative
Candiate D = 90% conservative
If you see things as described in scenario #1, then voting for the "lesser of two evils" probably makes sense since the difference between your 3rd party candidate and the major party candidate is less than the difference between the two major candidates.
But if you see things as described in scenario #2, that there's not much difference between the major party candidates, then there isn't much risk in the 3rd party vote. You get a chance to vote your conscience and end up with something either a smidge to the left or right, but almost indistinguishable from your point of view.
Anyway, if you see things like scenario #2 and think that voting for the "lesser of two evils" is a good use of your vote, all power to you.
Agreed, it is a lot easier for the winner to be creative with his interpretations of the results. The hope is that the losing major party will consider those lost votes when developing their platform the next time around.
Most 3rd party voters that I know consider the two major parties very similar. So the lesser of two evils isn't really all that much less. The urgency to keep the other party out of office isn't a strong consideration, so the possible gain in 3rd party consideration down the road is worth the risk of a slightly more evil winning today.
The OP's question would be moot if we had an election system that was friendlier to the 3rd party vote (instant runoff, approval voting, etc)
If your 3rd party vote total exceeds the difference between the two "evils," you're sending a message that the loser needs to look at pretty seriously. He might have won had he embraced some of your politics. Your return on this vote investment may be 4 years down the road (or never), but a vote for one of the "evils" will be interpreted as a mandate for his platform. I'd say it's even more important in a close race to vote for your 3rd party.
We had the JIT (just in time) manufacturing wave hit our plant about 10 years ago. When people want processes to run faster, but can't get them to do so, they come up with names for new technologies that should solve their problems -- before developing the technologies.
Don't worry if you miss this current trend, there will be new names for working faster next year.
The box that I'm typing this message from was originally installed w/8.0. I made the leap to 8.1, then 9.0, and I'm currently on -mostly-current (I pick 'n' choose). All upgrades, with no reinstall. I tried an upgrade from Solaris 2.6 to 7, but had to run a fresh install of 7 after a month or so. Upgrade experiences in windows-land were similar. In short, the *only* OS that I've been able to upgrade w/out reformatting and starting from scratch is slackware.
And before I get flamed for not being able to upgrade windows or solaris, the point I'm trying to make should be more of a reflection on slackware's ease of upgrade than my incompetance in solaris or windows administration. You may want to point out to the slack users you know that there's usually an upgrade.txt file on the CD to walk you through the upgrade. No problems here so far.
All the source info for his work is publicly available, no problem there. If he compiles public information and provides some analysis which is considered "sensitive," why not classify it? You're still free to compile the same information and do your own analysis, dude.
I have to go with the OP on this one. So you see I have an SSL connection to a server, how do you know if I'm checking my webmail or checking my savings account?
I don't doubt that most folks were using unencrypted POP3 connections, I just question the accuracy of the percentages they quote.
let's hear it for patience and the value of privelege!
Blacklists work pretty good for me. The MTA responsible for my email drops the connection from blacklisted IPs instead of accepting and segregating messages. And the few spams that do get through are forwarded to the "abuse" address of the netblock from which they came -- no repeat offenders for 2003 so far. I don't see what the big deal is, everyone just needs to do their part.
How many of you actually report the spam and how many of you cry and throw tantrums about the X number of spams they got today without doing anything about it?
It'd be interesting to see the various different "throwaway" e-mail addresses people use
I use the domain of the offending website if a throwaway address is required. So if I were signing up for something at yahoo, I'd use yahoo@yahoo.com or something like that.
Mod parent up. You can easily have a job that is condusive to telecommuting, but if you work for a bunch of morons, they'll say "Your start time is at 7... I want to see you at your desk!"
I write for my org, but if that need died out, I'd probably try sales or consulting since the company itself is pro-telecommuting.
Good point, perhaps the tax angle isn't a good example. But management consulting should include the PR angle, personnel deployment, and finance. Who knows, it might even include some superficial tax advice if the consultant has the right background -- not tactical tax advice, but strategic. At any rate, they can offer more than hardware and software.
This acquisition makes perfect sense. Just as corporate security requires much more than just securing the computers, offering business solutions requires more than just offering hardware and software. When IBM's clients are faced with a business problem, IBM can now offer not only hardware and software, but solutions for the tax angle, the public relations angle, etc. My guess is that they've been looking to do something like this for a while, and now there's a 60% off sale going on at the NYSE.
I can't believe I just spent 15 minutes reading these posts. I'll never get that time back.
I believe the correct term for multiple AOLers is "snert."
Your statement should read: "the snert of morons AOL has unleashed..."
I looked into registering for their site, but the "Subscriber Agreement" link points to no such document. So by clicking on the button I'm agreeing to something that I'm not allowed to read? Has it always been like this or has the link recently become broken?
Anyway, I tried to use the posted accounts (nospam/nospam, private/private, and nospam/bitch) but none worked. Does NYT only allow "x" number of logons per account?
No worries, yahoo here I come...
just curious...that guy "AAA" was the king of my local pizza joint.
I primarily use a broadband based VPN, but have dial-up access as my backup.
If my company's VPN/remote access servers are unavailable, I keep a list of "offline" work to do that helps kill time. This usually means reading PDFs that I've downloaded, or writing emails (to be sent once I can get back online), or anything else that doesn't require connectivity.
It helps to replicate/mirror my company's internal resources too (web sites, files on file servers, databases). You need a big hard drive, but it beats the hard drive into the office (ugh... bad I know, but it's saturday).