Dell selling a few Linux-on-Laptops at the consumer end makes a lot of sense when you consider they want to grab a bigger chunk of the server market, where Linux holds a great portion of the market share. Get people used to the idea of Linux on Dell, then when they are in the market for a server they come back to what they know. The super reliable Linux experience makes Dell look good. Same angle as RedHat supporting FedoraCore.
Your question was not if we should rewrite the constitution to produce a more representative and responsive government. It was about the power of the individual voter to influence the government. And in that regard you only have to look as far as Florida and Ohio to see how powerful a handful of individual voters can be, even in the existing system. The gerrymandering and mayhem in those elections is a side issue- another x thousand votes either way would have made a big difference and obviated the need for the SCOTUS to get involved. (IMO, that they appointed the winning candidate directly along party lines was the saddest and most dire part of that mess)
In addition I don't have the experience to positively stand behind a comparitive statement covering all democratic or near-democratic systems in the world today. I'm as well informed as the next, but it's not my field and to make a categorical statement like you were asking would be impossible to defend.
I too would suggest a few areas for study to help you on your crusade (yay single transferable voting systems). Namely Part II ch. 2 and 4 of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. It's gold.
However, would you agree with the following sentence?
Although the pile of democratic nations has been growing, when the ability of U.S. voters to influence their government is considered,- the U.S. voter is close to the bottom of that pile!
The powers that be don't care which one gets elected... they own them all!
I've often heard the "it doesn't matter which major party I vote for, they're the same" line. Baloney and Fiddlesticks! Just a weak rationalization from those too lazy to exercise their responsibilities as citizens I say.
Do people honestly think that Life on Earth would be the same right now if we had seen a President Gore or President Kerry? Personally I won't give Rupert Murdoch and his fellow corporate media illuminati club that much fnord credit.
"They" care who gets elected as it touches their bottom line in a real way when, say, the governement tells you that you have to, in one case, clean up your residential toxic waste dump, or in the other case it looks the other way by (the illegal) non-enforcement of laws already on the books.
If more code was released under BSD-type license, we would've seen wider adoption.
And how much GPL code would have never been written if the project was not GPL? For my part I have contribued many thousands of lines of code to GPL projects and at the same time only bug fixes to BSD projects.
In short, there are many open source developers, right or wrong, who are not ego driven and have no interest in developing under a license where the perceived return is much more abstract. It's a matter of motivation. With the GPL I get a tangible return on my investment.
Many popular projects would simply not exist without the GPL.
WM: Dump metacity etc for sawfish (or even smaller fluxbox). File manager: Dump nautilus for rox. Terminal: Drop gnome-terminal for rxvt. Email: use sylpheed. Web browser: use dillo. Word processor: use AbiWord. Spreadsheet: gnumeric
Reduce the number of virtual terms (ctrl-alt-f1 through f6) from 6 to 3 (in/etc/inittab comment out respawn:getty tty3-6).
start "top", sort by memory use ("M" once running) and start examining what daemons you don't need. (/etc/init.d/)
Yes, you too can run a modern & functional linux on a Penium75 with 32mb RAM.
In other words, the decision makers acted like irrational mental cases screaming at the invisible monsters from space
No, they acted perfectly rational. A street artist exposed someone in the chain of command as an unqualified moron, and exposed those higher up the chain as either a) just as thick/paranoid; b) not in control; c) or (my pick) slightly embarassed but opportunistic enough to be policailly greedy. To cover up the fact that they have been made to look like idiots in front of the entire country they make lots of noise about how 'angry' they are, and to stop it happening again they threaten to send the poor artist to prison for 5 years on vague "acting suspisiously" charges.
Perfectly rational political human reaction. Ugly stupid and weak, but perfectly rational.
If you want configureable and don't use the sawfish WM, you should give it a try. It helps make modern Gnome a bit less dumbed-down. e.g. add a trick or two to be able to pull windows across workspaces [you do have to use Google and configure that by hand in a config file]. Sawfish kicks metacity's butt.
An even better and relevant Ocean analogy would be Ghandi's Salt Satyagraha march. Show the people how to get their own damn salt for free, then they can give the flip to the salt tax.
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An observation: if you disable nautilus, gnome won't set up your wallpaper when you log in. You can still set it *manually* from the preferences/desktop background dialogue, but it will revert to default after login out and back in.
Could you imagine the nightmare that would've ensued from a garden variety severe thunderstorm at high tide in the middle of the night causing a levee rupture? No warning, no news coverage, many people asleep... the death toll could've been 10x higher.
Totally wrong. Thunderstorms don't cause storm surge. Deep low pressure systems that generate sustained high winds and push oceans of water before them do.
I'd rather not use command line although I like the "kill" command
If you like "kill", you'll love "xkill". It is without a doubt my favorite UNIX program. You can make an icon for it on your taskbar to avoid bash. "killall" is fun too, as is "pkill".
It is cruel not to provide syntax highlighting before the eye can spot punctuation problems, but a full IDE will mask over areas you are trying to teach in the first place.
I highly recommend Nedit http://www.nedit.org/ There are versions for Mac, *NIX, & Windows.
vi, emacs -- Too much for the lower half of the class. Mention them, offer links, maybe spend 1/2 a class demonstrating the basics and some power-examples of why these blasts from the past endure & remain so popular with professional programmers.
Remember that in earlier days it took her several months to teach you how to poop without making a mess. Maybe frustrating calls now, but perhaps you owe her some slack?
Or maybe she didn't really need help, but just wanted some involvement with you on some level?
Climatology has been so thoroughly politicised that scientists and activists are not easily distinguished.
Boulderdash - Check their publication record in major journals (prob skip sci/nature though..), look for letters in AGU's EOS,...
The reason is that fear and hysteria generate press, political pressure, and therefore funding urgency. Also green activists readily identify with the subject matter and hysteria, much moreso than with more esoteric fields.
um, perhaps the end of our civilization and the biggest species extinction in 64my is considered a pressing concern?
Now there is a runaway feedback cycle!
There is an error in your logic. (Sagan list: Non sequitur) The march on Washington types are a) not getting listened to at all by the current government, and b) certainly not in charge of handing out current federal NSF & Energy Dept monies. This is why private organizations (such as Greenpeace) feel the need to fund some basic research themselves -- to overcome the current "don't fund it and they can't prove it'll happen" policies.
two more fun facts for ya: I had forgotten, but the Federal Gov't has operated a fishing boat buy-back program in Maine for the last 10 years or so. The fish just aren't there, people can't sell their boats, all their money is tied up in the boat mortgage, all they can do is put more and more effort on the fewer and fewer fish. This helps no one and the Feds have stepped in to take some of the pressure off & give these folks a way out. All is not happy dolphins at sunsets in the Gulf of Maine.
If you want "runaway feedback cycles" and a real doomsday scenario which hasn't been picked up much outside the journals, check out what happens if the crystal methane hydrate deposits melt from the deep oceans. If we get the continental fringes up to 4 degC, they melt in a possible exothermic feedback cycle releasing more methane into the air than you can shake China's smokestacks at... And the deep waters at the high lats have already risen 1 degC. This is "just" a theory, but the precautionary principal points to this as certainly one worth invsesting a few bucks & grey hairs on.
I am just pointing out that Greenpeace is not an innovator or indeed have any competence in this area. They are not a scientific organisation at all.
And so they can't even try to shed light on something that isn't getting much "mainstream" funding ?! We know much more about the dark side of the Moon and of Mars than we do of the bottom of the ocean. Something like 95% of it is totally unexplored. I'll take all the help we can get.
They are good at harassing shipping from small inflatable motor boats. The Yemeni Al-Qaida terror cell that hit the USS Cole had similar skills.
I hear the Greenies breath oxygen. The Sept11 hijackers did that too don't you know. Hello!, Greenpeace is not fucking killing people.
I don't mind folks with other points of view, but you'd have better luck convincing me of your points if you used valid arguments. Carl Sagan wrote a good primer on the subject: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html
The left often complains about the FOX News rise to dominance. You need to understand that by hijacking the mainstream press over the past 30 years the left manufactured them. The great silent majority now has a fair and balanced news source and doesn't have to sift the words of Dan Rather.
*cough*. First of all I don't really care if FOXNews exists or not. But, the great liberal media thing is a myth. It's been 90% big business since 1776. Perhaps it is just that what's shown on the news (ie some vauge form of reality) just doesn't reflect well on what the ultra-right get up to? This doesn't make the media leftish on the whole, it just makes them reporting a reality which doesn't please the far-right.
A great success story has been US management of the Bering Sea fisheries. They are healthy and productive. I have recently gone cod fishing
murderer! *
in the gulf of Maine. No problems there. Finback Whales lounging on the surface, Bottle Nose Dolphins cavorting in our boat wake, monster cod stuffed with krill. Quite a sight. How the rest of the world manages their fisheries, I don't know.
[*] (that's a joke)
And yet in the Canadian maritimes (and the rest of the north atlantic) the fishery is totally fuct and has been so for the last 25 years. And it's not getting any better. Adult cod are at about 1-3% of historic levels - after the top preditors were removed the mid sized fish have boomed, and now the juvenile cod (which at that point in their life are mid-sized fish food) get eaten out from the bottom end, never to become big enough to feed on the mid-sized fish to correct the sitiation,... I won't deny that the Gulf of Maine is a lovely place and a highly productive marine area. But the fishery there is in a bad way too.
>>I highly recommend reading the non-partisan PEW report on the >> state of the world's oceans,
I'll do that,
I hope you do. Knowing stuff is good.
but there is no such thing as a non-partisan in the fields of oceanography or climatology.
The commision was made up of a balance of representives from all walks & industries, so would you prefer "multi-partisan"?
I do know a lot of oceanographers and climatologists (hell, I am one); I think it would be wise for you to continue to separate the scientists from the activist groups on "both sides" (as started this thread). From my perspective though the "both sides" folks are well outside the bulk of the science. They don't get as good press, but physicists are usually pretty bland on keeping to the numbers. The folks handing out the money and the folks looking for a cheap headline may not have the same mindset though...
well this could go on and on, but's that's all from me.
Giant squid have already been photographed in their natural habitat by Japanese scientists.
A single set of photos has been taken of this critter in the wild. Nothing more to know, time to close the book and move on!
The rest of this post is just a rather lame slander which it isn't really worth replying to.
You may not like Greenpeace, but before you go attacking them, what the hell have you done for your fellow Earthlings? And what's your scientific credibility to judge their entire organization, eh?
Personally, I think they have an important role to play as some sort of balance to the "trade groups", self serving politicians, and FOX TVs of the world. You may think that they are towards one end of a spectrum, but consider how much the other end of the spectrum is stacked with highly funded and entrenched truth twisters.
Global fish stocks are crashing, fisheries management has been an abect failure worldwide, and it looks like this is the year that Japan will have bribed enough land-locked 3rd world nations to gain control of the IWC and reinstate commercial whaling. "Marine science is already in more capable hands." hmph. not by much.
It's the old trick of trying to sell sizzle to the investors when it becomes readily apparent that there is no steak (usually after you got drunk and ate it the night before). Think laywers and real estaters driving BMWs to promote a successful image to their clients. No big surprise.
Also, your linked article may want to recheck how "little" global warming hydroelectric power (which wind often displaces) causes. Dams displace CO2, but they increase methane production; methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas. In some cases, hydroelectric plants are worse global warming contributors, per MW, than coal.
That analysis is either simplistic or a great achievment of misdirection, depending on your point of view.
While Methane may be 15x the greenhouse gas as CO2 is, the methane bubbling out of anoxic silt at the bottom of the lake is carbon which is still "in play" (in the upper meter of exposed earth/century time scale). The net amount of carbon stays in the system the same, and will "percipitate out" (figureatively).
To say that some CO2 -> methane conversion (ok, not good if it is really happening) is worse than what would natually happen to that carbon is a bit speculative (it's about the carbon balance equilibium point). To say that "renewable" derived greenhouse gas emissions are as bad as the same amount of "fossil" derived greenhouse gas emissions is highly bogus. The first is self correcting in a way, the second is an artifically changing of the rules of the natural game.
"Fossil Fuels" are desginated as such for a very very good reason. They are pumping new carbon, previously "out of play" for a significant geological time period, back into a system which just can't rebalance itself fast enough (for the fate of humankind anyway).
(poorly stated) It's an arguement which plays to "it's not 100% perfect, only 95%" therefore it is no better than our other 5% solution, which is 95% bad. Both have problems so we'll just go with the status quo. It is the same exact argument, and is just as full of hoey as is used by Bush & the global-warming denyers. (uh oh, I think I just invoked Godwin's Law)
I postulate (as a geophysical engineer with a degree in atmospheric physics) that the reported tons of greenhouse gas per megawatt comparison is a) probably bullshit anyway and b) badly (intentionally?) flawed methodolgy*.
* They aren't looking at the net greenhouse gas effect, only the outgoing bubbles.
Oh, and rich NIMBYers who pose as representatives of the environmental movement for their own profit make baby Jesus cry. I notice in the few energy/. threads lately there's a lot of talk about "those" and "they" refering to the diverse crowd of folks known as "enviromentalists", ususally followed by ad homenim attacks on people who copulate with trees. Come on people, there are nut jobs in all walks of life. Judging society by promoting the nut jobs to mainstream spokespeople is the same misdirection tact as the above dam CO2/CH4 sham. (queue "hail to the chief" and you see why the rest of the world thinks the US is entirely populated by nut jobs)
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Dell selling a few Linux-on-Laptops at the consumer end makes a lot of sense when you consider they want to grab a bigger chunk of the server market, where Linux holds a great portion of the market share. Get people used to the idea of Linux on Dell, then when they are in the market for a server they come back to what they know. The super reliable Linux experience makes Dell look good. Same angle as RedHat supporting FedoraCore.
I was amused that website exists and slightly scared that you knew about it.
now they're on double secret probation
whatever.
Your question was not if we should rewrite the constitution to produce a more representative and responsive government. It was about the power of the individual voter to influence the government. And in that regard you only have to look as far as Florida and Ohio to see how powerful a handful of individual voters can be, even in the existing system. The gerrymandering and mayhem in those elections is a side issue- another x thousand votes either way would have made a big difference and obviated the need for the SCOTUS to get involved. (IMO, that they appointed the winning candidate directly along party lines was the saddest and most dire part of that mess)
In addition I don't have the experience to positively stand behind a comparitive statement covering all democratic or near-democratic systems in the world today. I'm as well informed as the next, but it's not my field and to make a categorical statement like you were asking would be impossible to defend.
I too would suggest a few areas for study to help you on your crusade (yay single transferable voting systems). Namely Part II ch. 2 and 4 of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. It's gold.
over and out.
No, I wouldn't.
I've often heard the "it doesn't matter which major party I vote for, they're the same" line. Baloney and Fiddlesticks! Just a weak rationalization from those too lazy to exercise their responsibilities as citizens I say.
Do people honestly think that Life on Earth would be the same right now if we had seen a President Gore or President Kerry? Personally I won't give Rupert Murdoch and his fellow corporate media illuminati club that much fnord credit.
"They" care who gets elected as it touches their bottom line in a real way when, say, the governement tells you that you have to, in one case, clean up your residential toxic waste dump, or in the other case it looks the other way by (the illegal) non-enforcement of laws already on the books.
throwing down the gauntlet eh?
nedit has no stinkin 30 day trail period:
http://www.nedit.org/
although it requires X11 and a copy into your $PATH.
I added it as a X11 top-menu app, so it's easy to get to.
Show me a sphere with a bit of a bulge, and I'll show you an egg which has already left the basket.
And how much GPL code would have never been written if the project was not GPL? For my part I have contribued many thousands of lines of code to GPL projects and at the same time only bug fixes to BSD projects.
In short, there are many open source developers, right or wrong, who are not ego driven and have no interest in developing under a license where the perceived return is much more abstract. It's a matter of motivation. With the GPL I get a tangible return on my investment.
Many popular projects would simply not exist without the GPL.
WM: Dump metacity etc for sawfish (or even smaller fluxbox).
/etc/inittab comment out respawn:getty tty3-6).
File manager: Dump nautilus for rox.
Terminal: Drop gnome-terminal for rxvt.
Email: use sylpheed.
Web browser: use dillo.
Word processor: use AbiWord.
Spreadsheet: gnumeric
Reduce the number of virtual terms (ctrl-alt-f1 through f6) from 6 to 3 (in
start "top", sort by memory use ("M" once running) and start examining what daemons you don't need. (/etc/init.d/)
Yes, you too can run a modern & functional linux on a Penium75 with 32mb RAM.
Perfectly rational political human reaction. Ugly stupid and weak, but perfectly rational.
a remarkable feat, considering the French blew it up twenty years ago and it now lies at the bottom of the sea in the Bay of Islands NZ.
If you want configureable and don't use the sawfish WM, you should give it a try. It helps make modern Gnome a bit less dumbed-down. e.g. add a trick or two to be able to pull windows across workspaces [you do have to use Google and configure that by hand in a config file]. Sawfish kicks metacity's butt.
An even better and relevant Ocean analogy would be Ghandi's Salt Satyagraha march. Show the people how to get their own damn salt for free, then they can give the flip to the salt tax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Satyagraha
s/Ghandi/RMS/
s/Satyagraha march/GNU project/
s/Salt/Software/
I know there's another really good command line one, can't recall what it's called.
If you like "kill", you'll love "xkill". It is without a doubt my favorite UNIX program. You can make an icon for it on your taskbar to avoid bash. "killall" is fun too, as is "pkill".
It is cruel not to provide syntax highlighting before the eye can spot punctuation problems, but a full IDE will mask over areas you are trying to teach in the first place.
I highly recommend Nedit http://www.nedit.org/
There are versions for Mac, *NIX, & Windows.
vi, emacs -- Too much for the lower half of the class. Mention them, offer links, maybe spend 1/2 a class demonstrating the basics and some power-examples of why these blasts from the past endure & remain so popular with professional programmers.
As learnt many years ago from GI Joe: Knowing is half the battle.
/.er will understand: This is a good tool for debugging the psycho-rant-from-nowhere DoS attack.
Translated into words a
Remember that in earlier days it took her several months to teach you how to poop without making a mess. Maybe frustrating calls now, but perhaps you owe her some slack?
Or maybe she didn't really need help, but just wanted some involvement with you on some level?
Boulderdash - Check their publication record in major journals (prob skip sci/nature though..), look for letters in AGU's EOS,
um, perhaps the end of our civilization and the biggest species extinction in 64my is considered a pressing concern?
There is an error in your logic. (Sagan list: Non sequitur)
The march on Washington types are a) not getting listened to at all by the current government, and b) certainly not in charge of handing out current federal NSF & Energy Dept monies. This is why private organizations (such as Greenpeace) feel the need to fund some basic research themselves -- to overcome the current "don't fund it and they can't prove it'll happen" policies.
two more fun facts for ya:
I had forgotten, but the Federal Gov't has operated a fishing boat buy-back program in Maine for the last 10 years or so. The fish just aren't there, people can't sell their boats, all their money is tied up in the boat mortgage, all they can do is put more and more effort on the fewer and fewer fish. This helps no one and the Feds have stepped in to take some of the pressure off & give these folks a way out. All is not happy dolphins at sunsets in the Gulf of Maine.
If you want "runaway feedback cycles" and a real doomsday scenario which hasn't been picked up much outside the journals, check out what happens if the crystal methane hydrate deposits melt from the deep oceans. If we get the continental fringes up to 4 degC, they melt in a possible exothermic feedback cycle releasing more methane into the air than you can shake China's smokestacks at
http://www.geo.vu.nl/~renh/methane-pulse.html
http://www.nap.edu/books/0309092922/html/29.html
https://www.agu.org/cgi-bin/agubookstore?memb=agu
And so they can't even try to shed light on something that isn't getting much "mainstream" funding ?! We know much more about the dark side of the Moon and of Mars than we do of the bottom of the ocean. Something like 95% of it is totally unexplored. I'll take all the help we can get.
I hear the Greenies breath oxygen. The Sept11 hijackers did that too don't you know.
Hello!, Greenpeace is not fucking killing people.
I don't mind folks with other points of view, but you'd have better luck convincing me of your points if you used valid arguments. Carl Sagan wrote a good primer on the subject:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.htm
*cough*. First of all I don't really care if FOXNews exists or not. But, the great liberal media thing is a myth. It's been 90% big business since 1776. Perhaps it is just that what's shown on the news (ie some vauge form of reality) just doesn't reflect well on what the ultra-right get up to? This doesn't make the media leftish on the whole, it just makes them reporting a reality which doesn't please the far-right.
murderer! *
[*] (that's a joke)
And yet in the Canadian maritimes (and the rest of the north atlantic) the fishery is totally fuct and has been so for the last 25 years. And it's not getting any better. Adult cod are at about 1-3% of historic levels - after the top preditors were removed the mid sized fish have boomed, and now the juvenile cod (which at that point in their life are mid-sized fish food) get eaten out from the bottom end, never to become big enough to feed on the mid-sized fish to correct the sitiation,
I won't deny that the Gulf of Maine is a lovely place and a highly productive marine area. But the fishery there is in a bad way too.
>>I highly recommend reading the non-partisan PEW report on the
>> state of the world's oceans,
I hope you do. Knowing stuff is good.
The commision was made up of a balance of representives from all walks & industries, so would you prefer "multi-partisan"?
I do know a lot of oceanographers and climatologists (hell, I am one); I think it would be wise for you to continue to separate the scientists from the activist groups on "both sides" (as started this thread). From my perspective though the "both sides" folks are well outside the bulk of the science. They don't get as good press, but physicists are usually pretty bland on keeping to the numbers. The folks handing out the money and the folks looking for a cheap headline may not have the same mindset though...
well this could go on and on, but's that's all from me.
A single set of photos has been taken of this critter in the wild. Nothing more to know, time to close the book and move on!
The rest of this post is just a rather lame slander which it isn't really worth replying to.
You may not like Greenpeace, but before you go attacking them, what the hell have you done for your fellow Earthlings? And what's your scientific credibility to judge their entire organization, eh?
Personally, I think they have an important role to play as some sort of balance to the "trade groups", self serving politicians, and FOX TVs of the world. You may think that they are towards one end of a spectrum, but consider how much the other end of the spectrum is stacked with highly funded and entrenched truth twisters.
Global fish stocks are crashing, fisheries management has been an abect failure worldwide, and it looks like this is the year that Japan will have bribed enough land-locked 3rd world nations to gain control of the IWC and reinstate commercial whaling. "Marine science is already in more capable hands." hmph. not by much.
I highly recommend reading the non-partisan PEW report on the state of the world's oceans,
http://www.pewtrusts.org/pdf/env_pew_oceans_final
It's the old trick of trying to sell sizzle to the investors when it becomes readily apparent that there is no steak (usually after you got drunk and ate it the night before). Think laywers and real estaters driving BMWs to promote a successful image to their clients. No big surprise.
Also, your linked article may want to recheck how "little" global warming hydroelectric power (which wind often displaces) causes. Dams displace CO2, but they increase methane production; methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas. In some cases, hydroelectric plants are worse global warming contributors, per MW, than coal.
/. threads lately there's a lot of talk about "those" and "they" refering to the diverse crowd of folks known as "enviromentalists", ususally followed by ad homenim attacks on people who copulate with trees. Come on people, there are nut jobs in all walks of life. Judging society by promoting the nut jobs to mainstream spokespeople is the same misdirection tact as the above dam CO2/CH4 sham.
a n_The_Demon_Haunted_World_Excerpt.htm
That analysis is either simplistic or a great achievment of misdirection, depending on your point of view.
While Methane may be 15x the greenhouse gas as CO2 is, the methane bubbling out of anoxic silt at the bottom of the lake is carbon which is still "in play" (in the upper meter of exposed earth/century time scale). The net amount of carbon stays in the system the same, and will "percipitate out" (figureatively).
To say that some CO2 -> methane conversion (ok, not good if it is really happening) is worse than what would natually happen to that carbon is a bit speculative (it's about the carbon balance equilibium point). To say that "renewable" derived greenhouse gas emissions are as bad as the same amount of "fossil" derived greenhouse gas emissions is highly bogus.
The first is self correcting in a way, the second is an artifically changing of the rules of the natural game.
"Fossil Fuels" are desginated as such for a very very good reason. They are pumping new carbon, previously "out of play" for a significant geological time period, back into a system which just can't rebalance itself fast enough (for the fate of humankind anyway).
(poorly stated) It's an arguement which plays to "it's not 100% perfect, only 95%" therefore it is no better than our other 5% solution, which is 95% bad. Both have problems so we'll just go with the status quo. It is the same exact argument, and is just as full of hoey as is used by Bush & the global-warming denyers. (uh oh, I think I just invoked Godwin's Law)
I postulate (as a geophysical engineer with a degree in atmospheric physics) that the reported tons of greenhouse gas per megawatt comparison is a) probably bullshit anyway and b) badly (intentionally?) flawed methodolgy*.
* They aren't looking at the net greenhouse gas effect, only the outgoing bubbles.
Oh, and rich NIMBYers who pose as representatives of the environmental movement for their own profit make baby Jesus cry. I notice in the few energy
(queue "hail to the chief" and you see why the rest of the world thinks the US is entirely populated by nut jobs)
enough ranting - better to listen and learn something-- here's today's lesson:
Everyone should read (the) Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection toolkit.
http://www-static.cc.gatech.edu/~idris/Essays/Sag