Now that I think of it, you're right. I'm mainly a musician (clarinet and sax) and I play a bit of jazz.I'd have to pay a fee to listen to recordings and pay to play a improv solo. Jazz is, after all, your emotions, playing experience and what you've heard prior. Some of the neatest riffs are from others' pieces of solos that you've improved upon.
I now see this in other art too, but it's hard since I suck at non-music art.
Damn. This sounds like the same logic found in the "BSD is Dead" posts.
I feel sorry for the idiot moderator who actually modded this up. The sad thing is that the BSD is Dead sounded convincing at first. This doesnt even come close, yet +5
---Cmon, I tired of the same BS logic PLEASE GIVE ME A REAL REASON FOR COPYRIGHTS
OK. There's 2 sides of the issue. Neverending Copyrights to Total free
Total free would be good for all of "us" (ones not creating works) however it wouldn't be much of an incentive for new works to be made. They would, but at a much reduced pace. Then you have the other extreme, a copyright that would last forever. That would be good for the artists and thier families, but bad for the "rest of us". The payment would provide a heavy incentive to create.
As you see, if the artist gets his wishes (infinite copyright), the public suffers. The same with the reverse. There has to be a balance to reward the author with a fair amount of money along with a limited time of "monolopy" on his piece. Also in this equasion must be a time limit which the authors piece is returned to the "public".
You probably don't like my idea of why it's needed. Revert to papers alongside Federalist papers. They have similar lines explaining the same concept that "creators" must have limited protections to spawn creativity and new thoughts. And as argued now, how long is _limited_?
Not even the founders could answer that question. They tried 20 years.
------Now, I agree that it has since been distorted. What we need (IMO) is repeal of those unconstituional retroactive copyright extensions, a shorter term for future copyrights, and (similiar to Russia) a law on the books making it illegal to create fair-use proof works
---Oh and another thing about slavery, is that it started out as short term indentured servitude for blacks and whites that could not be inherited. After the term you got freedom and your own property. Sounded like a good deal, except (grammar correction) there was one problem, it planted the seed for a system that was outright evil and caused a lot of damage in the long run for America.
I see indentured servants as nothing wrong at all. A richer person paid full a pooer person's full voyage to North America, in price of 7-10 years work. I see that is no different than the situation of credit cards today. They "give" you money, but you end up paying in the long run. If you mention bancurupcy courts, I'll add that the courts end up taking stuff from you to pay your creditors.
Still, promised work and slavery are two totally different things. Slavery has been around since the beginning of the human race, and will always be around. After wars, the citizens of a country were considered slaves (revert back to Art of War, by Sun Tzu for how to treat war slaves) The US had a slightly different view of things as we saw 1 race as a slave pool. We paid Nigeria (dont they seem to keep popping up in nefariuous schemes, ne?), Congo, and other Africa costal countries for bounty. The Black Men SOLD EACH OTHER. We just happened to buy them, as did Europe, but the stigma of "war slaves" held there.
Still, how did slavery set the seeds of evil in our country? If you're reffering to the Civil War, that was a war about States Rights. Not Slavery. That choice involved slavery, along with other various details, but was mainly an argument about the power of states over national. I am directly for everybody (not just citizens) here in the US having the same Bill of Rights, along with the 3 freedons, but in the case of the Civil war, I'd have sided with the South. In terms of military and currency, that was the national's job. The rest should have been with the states.
I did go a bit off-topic, but I think that problems with our laws go back further than a few years. They all coincide at some points.. I'm figuring I did piss a whole bunch of people off. Too bad. I speak my mind about things like this.
---However, Apple claims on their website that the iPod *is* upgradeable (http://www.apple.com/ipod/specs.html -- says "Upgradable firmware enables support for future audio formats") and the Xiph folks seem to think that the iPod is a possibility, because they ask people to politely bug Apple for it. (http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/hardware.html). I don't know what the real limitations of the iPod are, though.. I think it has two 75MHz ARM chips in there, which should be plenty.
I didn't know that it was upgradeable (or claimed as such). The only thing I can think of is that Apple's having problems with the amount of memory devoted to the firmware. Perhaps they hit the ceiling on the ram limit in making the decoder/UI. Still, dual 75 MHz arm's are more than enough.
---I'd rather an ogg-friendly player to play burned CR-R(W)s though, instead... 1) because I'm leery of tiny hard drives,
Same here. I see on the 3.25 HD's (seagate) that says "Do not exceed 75 G's force". There's no way that's operating force. I'd like to know the operating G force guaranteed for. I'd suppose less than 3. Tops.
---and 2) because when I'm not actually in transit, I'd like to be able to pop the disk from a portable player into a local computer, and (eventually) into a real stereo system's player, when a "real stereo" systems CD/DVD device will also play oggs. Considering how many DVD players play MP3s, this does not seem too outlandish to me...
Actually DVD players already have the hardware to decode MP3's. Remember there's 2 standards. MPEG1 and MPEG2 (video and sound). An MPEG1 video is made up of MPEP1 compression and MP1 Layer 2 or 3 sound. Quite a bit of dual-channel sound in MPEG2 standard (DVD's) use mpeg1 layer 3 for sound.
Essentially, what you need for a DVD player (the actual meat- decoderwise) is 3 chips: MPEG1 decoder, MPEG2 decoder, and a CD pcm read.
I cant see OGG being shipped with players now, but when commodity chips get even cheaper, I can see media terminals which you load "fonts" into. Drivers, essentially. Still, if I am doing that sort of a company, I'd consider mPlayer (www.mplayerhq.hu). It may be "illegal" concerning DVD's..... but as a media terminal, it'd be the best.
Instead of having people sit on the crapper for long times (a few minutes, everything's long when YOU need to), just have a time-shitting agreement. All users will have 1/60'th of a second to do thier business. The last 2 people will be in charge of calling the janitor for floor cleanup (ewwww).
b) A true standalone hardware player will be introduced, followed by another. Perhaps an iPod upgrade, even.
Regarding that... I don't use Macs or use thier over-expensive hardware, but I believe the decoder is a dedicated mp3 decoding chip. 1 pin in for mp3 stream, and 3 going to speakers (l and r).
Arguing about the "licensing arangements" is a moot point.
Now that Linux (with a hardware hack) is on the (e)X-Box, has the money been paid out to the developers of that project? Remember that overall $100,000 promised? It was broken into parts. Half of it was supposed to be paid out for hardware hack of Linux on X box.
We had high school busses with cameras. Well, a lot of us would take ruby lazers and shine it at the camera. For some reason, it could never record right.
How long have you been on the internet? I've been around since the late eighties, and totally understand why he has an open-relay. And having rabid anti-spammers screaming down "crippling" solutions or shut down aren't going to work.
Back in our day of the internet, nearly every server ran an open relay to.... "Relay email" (how surprising). You wanna send an email to the admin at server xyz? Log in and send him a mail. That's all. The spammers wern't around then, but it was good.
We understand the old ways. It doesn't make sense when juxtaposed over the new Commercial Internet V8.0 , but the old way's the way we like it.
The way it looks by http://www.lik-sang.com/downtime.phtml , They just have downtime problems.
This MS "shutdown scare" is just propaganda, as it sure-as-hell seems they aren't dead. By the way, I found this through google cache and noticed a working link on the new server.
I use serial ports on lots of my machines I administer. That includes Cisco's, HP routers, Linux, FreeBSD, and a few other misc stuffs. What I really would like is a serial port with a terminal program. It's either a handheld 'puter has it or I haul around a small laptop.
I'd prefer to get rid of the laptop (heh, not permanently). ANy suggestions?
--It's like trying to get people to switch to Linux by lacing nekkid girlie pictures into the kernel. A shallow attempt to spice something up.
Is there something wrong when I press autopr0n pics onto debian 3.0r1 discs? It sure tempts Windows users.
Gheh heh heh
Yeah. Right... You know what'd they pull.
They'd just input a humongous binary stub in c source.
You could have posted anony-coward and put your name at the end. At least it would be accredited to you.
Read my commenst from my link. I posted there too. Just this guy seems to be pulling the "race card" wherever he goes.
I also know that the 1860 Civil war was a war about states rights, not slavery. Slavery was a part of the states' rights issue. The states lost.
Hey YOU! Put down that bible!!! You might hurt somebody with it! (thump thump)
What's with you and slavery? It almost seems you're a new kind of troll around here.
Perhaps you're a slave troll.
Now that I think of it, you're right. I'm mainly a musician (clarinet and sax) and I play a bit of jazz.I'd have to pay a fee to listen to recordings and pay to play a improv solo. Jazz is, after all, your emotions, playing experience and what you've heard prior. Some of the neatest riffs are from others' pieces of solos that you've improved upon.
I now see this in other art too, but it's hard since I suck at non-music art.
Patents? What patents?? I dont see no stenkin patents.
Since I cant see them, I guess I cant infringe them, eh?
Damn. This sounds like the same logic found in the "BSD is Dead" posts.
I feel sorry for the idiot moderator who actually modded this up. The sad thing is that the BSD is Dead sounded convincing at first. This doesnt even come close, yet +5
---Cmon, I tired of the same BS logic PLEASE GIVE ME A REAL REASON FOR COPYRIGHTS
OK. There's 2 sides of the issue.
Neverending Copyrights to Total free
Total free would be good for all of "us" (ones not creating works) however it wouldn't be much of an incentive for new works to be made. They would, but at a much reduced pace. Then you have the other extreme, a copyright that would last forever. That would be good for the artists and thier families, but bad for the "rest of us". The payment would provide a heavy incentive to create.
As you see, if the artist gets his wishes (infinite copyright), the public suffers. The same with the reverse. There has to be a balance to reward the author with a fair amount of money along with a limited time of "monolopy" on his piece. Also in this equasion must be a time limit which the authors piece is returned to the "public".
You probably don't like my idea of why it's needed. Revert to papers alongside Federalist papers. They have similar lines explaining the same concept that "creators" must have limited protections to spawn creativity and new thoughts. And as argued now, how long is _limited_?
Not even the founders could answer that question. They tried 20 years.
------Now, I agree that it has since been distorted. What we need (IMO) is repeal of those unconstituional retroactive copyright extensions, a shorter term for future copyrights, and (similiar to Russia) a law on the books making it illegal to create fair-use proof works
---Oh and another thing about slavery, is that it started out as short term indentured servitude for blacks and whites that could not be inherited. After the term you got freedom and your own property. Sounded like a good deal, except (grammar correction) there was one problem, it planted the seed for a system that was outright evil and caused a lot of damage in the long run for America.
I see indentured servants as nothing wrong at all. A richer person paid full a pooer person's full voyage to North America, in price of 7-10 years work. I see that is no different than the situation of credit cards today. They "give" you money, but you end up paying in the long run. If you mention bancurupcy courts, I'll add that the courts end up taking stuff from you to pay your creditors.
Still, promised work and slavery are two totally different things. Slavery has been around since the beginning of the human race, and will always be around. After wars, the citizens of a country were considered slaves (revert back to Art of War, by Sun Tzu for how to treat war slaves) The US had a slightly different view of things as we saw 1 race as a slave pool. We paid Nigeria (dont they seem to keep popping up in nefariuous schemes, ne?), Congo, and other Africa costal countries for bounty. The Black Men SOLD EACH OTHER. We just happened to buy them, as did Europe, but the stigma of "war slaves" held there.
Still, how did slavery set the seeds of evil in our country? If you're reffering to the Civil War, that was a war about States Rights. Not Slavery. That choice involved slavery, along with other various details, but was mainly an argument about the power of states over national. I am directly for everybody (not just citizens) here in the US having the same Bill of Rights, along with the 3 freedons, but in the case of the Civil war, I'd have sided with the South. In terms of military and currency, that was the national's job. The rest should have been with the states.
I did go a bit off-topic, but I think that problems with our laws go back further than a few years. They all coincide at some points.. I'm figuring I did piss a whole bunch of people off. Too bad. I speak my mind about things like this.
---However, Apple claims on their website that the iPod *is* upgradeable (http://www.apple.com/ipod/specs.html -- says "Upgradable firmware enables support for future audio formats") and the Xiph folks seem to think that the iPod is a possibility, because they ask people to politely bug Apple for it. (http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/hardware.html). I don't know what the real limitations of the iPod are, though .. I think it has two 75MHz ARM chips in there, which should be plenty.
... 1) because I'm leery of tiny hard drives,
...
I didn't know that it was upgradeable (or claimed as such). The only thing I can think of is that Apple's having problems with the amount of memory devoted to the firmware. Perhaps they hit the ceiling on the ram limit in making the decoder/UI. Still, dual 75 MHz arm's are more than enough.
---I'd rather an ogg-friendly player to play burned CR-R(W)s though, instead
Same here. I see on the 3.25 HD's (seagate) that says "Do not exceed 75 G's force". There's no way that's operating force. I'd like to know the operating G force guaranteed for. I'd suppose less than 3. Tops.
---and 2) because when I'm not actually in transit, I'd like to be able to pop the disk from a portable player into a local computer, and (eventually) into a real stereo system's player, when a "real stereo" systems CD/DVD device will also play oggs. Considering how many DVD players play MP3s, this does not seem too outlandish to me
Actually DVD players already have the hardware to decode MP3's. Remember there's 2 standards. MPEG1 and MPEG2 (video and sound). An MPEG1 video is made up of MPEP1 compression and MP1 Layer 2 or 3 sound. Quite a bit of dual-channel sound in MPEG2 standard (DVD's) use mpeg1 layer 3 for sound.
Essentially, what you need for a DVD player (the actual meat- decoderwise) is 3 chips: MPEG1 decoder, MPEG2 decoder, and a CD pcm read.
I cant see OGG being shipped with players now, but when commodity chips get even cheaper, I can see media terminals which you load "fonts" into. Drivers, essentially. Still, if I am doing that sort of a company, I'd consider mPlayer (www.mplayerhq.hu). It may be "illegal" concerning DVD's..... but as a media terminal, it'd be the best.
All the best, Timothy.
Josh Crawley
Instead of having people sit on the crapper for long times (a few minutes, everything's long when YOU need to), just have a time-shitting agreement. All users will have 1/60'th of a second to do thier business. The last 2 people will be in charge of calling the janitor for floor cleanup (ewwww).
b) A true standalone hardware player will be introduced, followed by another. Perhaps an iPod upgrade, even.
Regarding that... I don't use Macs or use thier over-expensive hardware, but I believe the decoder is a dedicated mp3 decoding chip. 1 pin in for mp3 stream, and 3 going to speakers (l and r).
In other words, probably no upgrade.
Damn good idea. Instead of the 50$ solution for infrared lights, they use some digital-only solution.
;-)
They oughtta hire you for that. You've already gave them the solution
Arguing about the "licensing arangements" is a moot point.
Now that Linux (with a hardware hack) is on the (e)X-Box, has the money been paid out to the developers of that project? Remember that overall $100,000 promised? It was broken into parts. Half of it was supposed to be paid out for hardware hack of Linux on X box.
Have they paid or defaulted?
BWAH! HAHAHAHAHAHA! Check the link. It's a slashdot-insult site. The moderators have been had ;-)
We had high school busses with cameras. Well, a lot of us would take ruby lazers and shine it at the camera. For some reason, it could never record right.
---"If we are going to fly on planes with tonnes of flammable material under our butts..."
I think the passengers next to you will care more about the 'flammable material' in our butts leaking out.
How long have you been on the internet? I've been around since the late eighties, and totally understand why he has an open-relay. And having rabid anti-spammers screaming down "crippling" solutions or shut down aren't going to work.
Back in our day of the internet, nearly every server ran an open relay to.... "Relay email" (how surprising). You wanna send an email to the admin at server xyz? Log in and send him a mail. That's all. The spammers wern't around then, but it was good.
We understand the old ways. It doesn't make sense when juxtaposed over the new Commercial Internet V8.0 , but the old way's the way we like it.
Language doesnt matter??? Then lets institute Brainfuck only programming challenges. ... then again, maybe not ^_^
His "joke" was that 0x90 is 144 in dec. 144 is gross.
And yes, it was a idiotic joke. I "got it" immediately. Still wasn't funny.
The way it looks by http://www.lik-sang.com/downtime.phtml , They just have downtime problems.
This MS "shutdown scare" is just propaganda, as it sure-as-hell seems they aren't dead. By the way, I found this through google cache and noticed a working link on the new server.
THEY'RE REALLY UP. Give them time!
I use serial ports on lots of my machines I administer. That includes Cisco's, HP routers, Linux, FreeBSD, and a few other misc stuffs. What I really would like is a serial port with a terminal program. It's either a handheld 'puter has it or I haul around a small laptop.
I'd prefer to get rid of the laptop (heh, not permanently). ANy suggestions?
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