Don't wear your sensitivity on your sleeve. His point wasn't made to slight anyone. You're point is well taken but American-made products for many years were superior to products made abroad for some time. Yes, there are exceptions. (German engineering, for instance).
Obviously the university doesn't have a photography department. Otherwise they'd have a ton of these going out to students. Idiots. Behold higher education in America! The time has come for such actions to jeopardize their federal funding. Its time to starve political correctness to death!
There's a lot of unknowns here. Will this be a stripped / unlicensed version or what? He says, "We are working with them very closely to make a dual-boot system so that, like on an Apple, you can boot either one up." But Apple doesn't provide Windows for you.
It would appear that Negroponte is in need of further funding. That would explain the Intel involvement. Their departure has been noted. Now Microsoft is on board, no doubt bringing cash. Personally, I think this is a mistake. There are millions of PC's with Windows already on them. M$ has had 2 decades to do this. They are far less concerned about getting Windows into the hands of the needy and more concerned with making sure no one runs any other OS but Windows. Get that crack into a new generation so we can ensure our business model. Good business you say? Maybe. But OLPC was supposed to be about charity, not business.
Agreed. and much like M$ its hard to hit them where it hurts. Yes, we could all buy AMD in protest but that's not always easy to do. We can, however, spread the bad press and hopefully make some headway there. This move was beyond a low blow. They essentially fucked them when their back was turned.
"Okay, so we're profiting from GPL'd software. Now we're worried about the implications of using that software. OH, don't get us wrong we're not going to stop using it we just want to raise a red flag." To what end? If companies like this really hope to have the software declared completely free and the GPL nullified then the result will be other programmers having their hard work profited by while they get to keep their works proprietary. How convenient!
Hey I use Intel processors but their behavior has been largely disappointing. Joining OLPC no looks like an attempt to avoid bad press. Now that they're leaving one has to wonder if they just weren't getting their way. The whole mess with the Classmate just makes them look like...well...Microsoft.
This is actually great. Now when I've been randomly selected to be searched after already running late through the hideously long security line the TSA agent will be able to read my facial expressions before asking me how I'm doing today!
And I'd agree to an extent. The expectation, however, shouldn't be for it to do things exactly the same way. If that's what one wants then they in fact want Windows. I think you have some excellent points. I think the answer is a mesh, however. Linux, to be viable, must be able to perform most of the same tasks in such a way that they are either familiar or at least intuitive. As for running the same programs, that's becoming less an issue. People just want the same functionality and largely get it. I can't argue with your hardware point. Wifi, for instance, has been atrocious on Linux for years. Hopefully, as Linux becomes more pervasive hardware companies will start filling the gap there like they already do on Windows. FWIW, there are several WiFi cards that Windows has a hard time with sans the software fro the vendor. It's a delicate dance or "like" and "new."
He does make some valid points however I think it's fundamentally flawed to think any Windows user can adequately review a Linux-based system. Invariably they will try to compare it to things they already know. They will talk about how limited it is because subconsciously they miss all of the Windows apps they know and love. Nothing is in the same place they are used to. A basic frustration sets in and bias ensues. I know this is a generalization but to some degree or another its true in most every review like this you see.
What's more important to me are reviews where a PC like this is put in front of youngsters or novices. People who don't have preconceived ideas about where things should be and how they should work.
No I'm not that dense. I understand fully. I'm bringing up a perception issue. This isn't Linux. No one is going to save money by buying up old Motorola i90c's and loading Google's Android on them the Linux extends the life of say a PII-500Mhz.
I think the first pic they show there has poor design, though. Not that that's Google's fault but Apple has shown that the screen is star and therefore should dominate the landscape. The new Touch and even the Palm Centro does this too and many are following. For me, any phone where the keyboard and other buttons make up more than say 20% of the face simply look bad.
Good call. MTV typifies everything that's wrong with popular music and culture. OTOH, who better to see where the RIAA is going wrong? Except for the fact that MTV is essentially the drunken trust-fund laden child of the RIAA.
Doping is doping. If you're altering your state of mind you are still doping. And yes, if you were in an academic competition then taking a drug to make you more clear-thinking is an advantage.
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Don't wear your sensitivity on your sleeve. His point wasn't made to slight anyone. You're point is well taken but American-made products for many years were superior to products made abroad for some time. Yes, there are exceptions. (German engineering, for instance).
Obviously the university doesn't have a photography department. Otherwise they'd have a ton of these going out to students. Idiots. Behold higher education in America! The time has come for such actions to jeopardize their federal funding. Its time to starve political correctness to death!
Seems I read (misread?) somewhere that many of the developers and engineers on the project threatened to jump ship if Microsoft was involved.
Yeah. I've said it more than once. Microsoft is inherently evil. Like kicking kittens.
There's a lot of unknowns here. Will this be a stripped / unlicensed version or what?
He says, "We are working with them very closely to make a dual-boot system so that, like on an Apple, you can boot either one up."
But Apple doesn't provide Windows for you.
It would appear that Negroponte is in need of further funding. That would explain the Intel involvement. Their departure has been noted. Now Microsoft is on board, no doubt bringing cash. Personally, I think this is a mistake. There are millions of PC's with Windows already on them. M$ has had 2 decades to do this. They are far less concerned about getting Windows into the hands of the needy and more concerned with making sure no one runs any other OS but Windows. Get that crack into a new generation so we can ensure our business model. Good business you say? Maybe. But OLPC was supposed to be about charity, not business.
Can't blame a guy for tryin'!
Can I be the first "Bender fan-boys" post, "yeah but does it run Linux," post and "we built plenty of these back in the day" post all at once?
Agreed. and much like M$ its hard to hit them where it hurts. Yes, we could all buy AMD in protest but that's not always easy to do. We can, however, spread the bad press and hopefully make some headway there. This move was beyond a low blow. They essentially fucked them when their back was turned.
"Okay, so we're profiting from GPL'd software. Now we're worried about the implications of using that software. OH, don't get us wrong we're not going to stop using it we just want to raise a red flag."
To what end? If companies like this really hope to have the software declared completely free and the GPL nullified then the result will be other programmers having their hard work profited by while they get to keep their works proprietary. How convenient!
So why didn't just keep it and load Ubuntu on it? Sounds fishy to me.
Hey I use Intel processors but their behavior has been largely disappointing. Joining OLPC no looks like an attempt to avoid bad press. Now that they're leaving one has to wonder if they just weren't getting their way. The whole mess with the Classmate just makes them look like...well...Microsoft.
This is actually great. Now when I've been randomly selected to be searched after already running late through the hideously long security line the TSA agent will be able to read my facial expressions before asking me how I'm doing today!
I've changed my mind about my marriage and we're splitting. Think of it as me canceling your vote.
This didn't happen without pictures!
what...
I dunno...60% of Iraqis voted in their first election. I don't know if we've ever done that in the US.
And I'd agree to an extent. The expectation, however, shouldn't be for it to do things exactly the same way. If that's what one wants then they in fact want Windows. I think you have some excellent points. I think the answer is a mesh, however. Linux, to be viable, must be able to perform most of the same tasks in such a way that they are either familiar or at least intuitive. As for running the same programs, that's becoming less an issue. People just want the same functionality and largely get it. I can't argue with your hardware point. Wifi, for instance, has been atrocious on Linux for years. Hopefully, as Linux becomes more pervasive hardware companies will start filling the gap there like they already do on Windows. FWIW, there are several WiFi cards that Windows has a hard time with sans the software fro the vendor. It's a delicate dance or "like" and "new."
He does make some valid points however I think it's fundamentally flawed to think any Windows user can adequately review a Linux-based system. Invariably they will try to compare it to things they already know. They will talk about how limited it is because subconsciously they miss all of the Windows apps they know and love. Nothing is in the same place they are used to. A basic frustration sets in and bias ensues. I know this is a generalization but to some degree or another its true in most every review like this you see.
What's more important to me are reviews where a PC like this is put in front of youngsters or novices. People who don't have preconceived ideas about where things should be and how they should work.
Beware a black hole scorned!
No I'm not that dense. I understand fully. I'm bringing up a perception issue. This isn't Linux. No one is going to save money by buying up old Motorola i90c's and loading Google's Android on them the Linux extends the life of say a PII-500Mhz.
Wow! This should have provided some comic relief. Who did the presentation? Dane Cook? OOH! Bobcat Goldthwait?
What a bunch of whiners.
All good points, I should have RTFA. OTOH, why even showcase it running on such an ugly device?
I think the first pic they show there has poor design, though. Not that that's Google's fault but Apple has shown that the screen is star and therefore should dominate the landscape. The new Touch and even the Palm Centro does this too and many are following. For me, any phone where the keyboard and other buttons make up more than say 20% of the face simply look bad.
Good call. MTV typifies everything that's wrong with popular music and culture. OTOH, who better to see where the RIAA is going wrong? Except for the fact that MTV is essentially the drunken trust-fund laden child of the RIAA.
Doping is doping. If you're altering your state of mind you are still doping. And yes, if you were in an academic competition then taking a drug to make you more clear-thinking is an advantage.