1) "We put it in the standard but we don't plan on using it yet." is not "It doesn't exist."
2) I'm not paying $1600 for a TV. I won't pay that for a computer. Wake me up when they are $300 or less.
3) Almost no one has 1080p, and most won't have it for years. I don't see 1080p as an advantage until I am willing to pay for a TV that will use it.
4) how much of a footprint does a PC game take? Anything that is not on the HD will need to be loaded every time. A 2x BD-ROM reads slower MB per MB than a 12x DVD-ROM. If they really need the 25-GB you will have a hard time putting a significant amount of multiple games on the HD.
5)Could expand for you... but will not expand for the layman. Will likely come at a steep cost. Wii again has an embedded browser. Truthfully, they will make Linux for all platforms, but honestly no system will have a OS that is so easy, cheap, and useful that John Q Public will bother.
6)Kirby Tilt and Tumble for the GBC. It was in the cartridge.
1080p HD movies - No. Image Constraint Token means no HD without HDMI.
1080p TVs prices are in a freefall - If by free fall you mean too goddamn expensive to consider for at least three years, then yes
1080p games - No 1080p TV see above
Free online play for games - Nintendo has this already. We have yet to see how free the PS3's online really will be.
Support for 25gig game data - Wii reads its 10 GB far faster than the PS3 can read the first 10 GB on a Blu-Ray. Enjoy your load times. "But they will cache to the HD!" 20 GB HD... 25 GB game... do the math.
~15000 library of backward compatible games - Backward compatibility will not be native. We'll see how good the emulation will work. Oh, and no legacy memory card support means no previously saved games.
Linux - Who the fuck cares? No, really. Who the fuck cares?
Online music store - See Linux
Web browsing - Opera Embedded on Wii
Tilt controller - Only tilt? How GameBoy.
PSP connectivity - Wii has DS Connectivity... and people actually own DSs
And an even larger library of exclusive games than with the the PS1 or PS2. - That remains to be seen.
Nintendo does well in Europe. They struggle with the UK, but they do well on the mainland.
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Its a sad state of affairs when Slashdot articles don't even celebrate the invention and the investment, but bitch just about the price and want LESS gadgets in the box, and when the MS supported standard is implicitly suggested to be a more "open" option.
Although Slashdot folks may salivate at a rocket powered toaster, most will not be willing to spend $600 for it.
Seems to me that this is a case where people may be overlooking a very important non-human cause to global warming. Of course, that doesn't win you any funding now does it?
I'm as green as you get. I believe we need to reduce emmissions as sharply as we can, but I believe in real reasons like the health of humans and wildlife.
tickets for events could be bought at an auction discount for events that aren't in high demand. I say that if they want to play the market for the popular tickets they should be forced to deal with the same system for the less popular.
I hate this brand of capitalism that always favors the corporations.
Iwata spoke about how there would be a range of prices for Wii games. I'd expect you will see a lot of $40-50 games and a few Katamari Damacy-esque $20-30 titles.
Actually, you will probably see less quality games for the PSP in a year. No one is going to want to spend a PS2-esque budget on a portable game they can't port to something with a better user base. Most of the best PSP games are ports in one way or the other. When developers stop writing PS2 code, much of the incentive to make PSP games will vanish with it.
It was known at E3 that the final dev kits for the Wii did not exist yet. How can you expect the hardware to be finalized?
Last year, Microsoft's demos were running off macs. This year, people report that Sony's demos were PC based. At E3 2004, Sony fed PSP screens from a hidden dev kit. This is what happens.
Here's what is important: the controller and system work on some level. No one is in the back faking the Wii pointer.
That is Sega. If you want to make your case then pick an actual Nintendo game... like Pikmin 2. You collected small treasures like Duracell batteries and tins of Carwax. Honestly, I think of Pikmin 2 as product placement done right. It lends a familiarity that generic items couldn't adding, however slightly, to the experience.
Both Sony AND MS are insisting that the HD era is ready for primetime
I never said other people weren't. Blu-Ray HD movies are a selling point of the PS3 and certain resolutions for those movies may not be available from non-HDMI connections. This is a conflict in business strategy.
I wasn't commenting about MS in my previous post, but since you mention them, the 360 is HD and all the HD functions are available to all HDTVs. The 360 has different problems with the different versions. When the HD-DVD drive comes out, it may have the same problem. I don't know.
Sony is not "the company trying to plug...," that's the entire movie industry and software industry, including MS. The fact is, Sony is distancing itself from that aspect of HD video.
So what if others do? The crippled Blu-Ray output on the $499 version will make it pointless as an HD movie player. Then you must ask yourself why you are paying extra for that drive when you won't be able to use it fully.
They have already promised to not use HDCP with their own movies. The reason for that is simply the lack of compatibility with over 90% of current HD televisions.
HD adoption is low now. What happens when the predicted HD boom happens and more TVs have HDMI than not? Will Sony change their minds then? Sony does not have a good record for keeping their promises. The ability is in there, and I don't hear Sony demanding it be removed.
Sony is the company insisting that the HD era is ready for primetime, and they are the company trying to "plug the analog hole" that non-HDMI standards have.
They are not only unnecessarily making life difficult for consumers, they are subverting their own HD message with the cheaper model.
You don't catch many people sitting at home playing cell phone games while their Xbox or PS2 gathers dust.
Maybe, but you do find people playing their DS or casual PC games in the presence of high-powered home consoles. Among my group of friends there is the much revered "drunken Pong tournament" where we set all the consoles aside for a Tele-Games Pong machine.
You may be different, but I'm pretty sure that even you have examples that break your own rules. Maybe I'm less of a fair-weather fan than other people, but I don't abandon things that I love simply because there is a shinier version. I may like the shinier version too, but that has nothing to do with what I liked about the older game.
There is a big difference between "looking good" and having cutting edge graphics. Most people agree that Geometry Wars both "looks good" and uses relatively simple graphics.
If a game s ugly, I won't be likely to sit through it. But I play games like Asteroids and Dig Dug on a regular basis, because beauty and simplicity are not mutually exclusive concepts.
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I will not accept any analysis on an IBM chip from IBM.com. Even if it were published by a third party.
1) "We put it in the standard but we don't plan on using it yet." is not "It doesn't exist."
2) I'm not paying $1600 for a TV. I won't pay that for a computer. Wake me up when they are $300 or less.
3) Almost no one has 1080p, and most won't have it for years. I don't see 1080p as an advantage until I am willing to pay for a TV that will use it.
4) how much of a footprint does a PC game take? Anything that is not on the HD will need to be loaded every time. A 2x BD-ROM reads slower MB per MB than a 12x DVD-ROM. If they really need the 25-GB you will have a hard time putting a significant amount of multiple games on the HD.
5)Could expand for you... but will not expand for the layman. Will likely come at a steep cost. Wii again has an embedded browser. Truthfully, they will make Linux for all platforms, but honestly no system will have a OS that is so easy, cheap, and useful that John Q Public will bother.
6)Kirby Tilt and Tumble for the GBC. It was in the cartridge.
$499 PS3 - $150-$250 Wii
1080p HD movies - No. Image Constraint Token means no HD without HDMI.
1080p TVs prices are in a freefall - If by free fall you mean too goddamn expensive to consider for at least three years, then yes
1080p games - No 1080p TV see above
Free online play for games - Nintendo has this already. We have yet to see how free the PS3's online really will be.
Support for 25gig game data - Wii reads its 10 GB far faster than the PS3 can read the first 10 GB on a Blu-Ray. Enjoy your load times. "But they will cache to the HD!" 20 GB HD... 25 GB game... do the math.
~15000 library of backward compatible games - Backward compatibility will not be native. We'll see how good the emulation will work. Oh, and no legacy memory card support means no previously saved games.
Linux - Who the fuck cares? No, really. Who the fuck cares?
Online music store - See Linux
Web browsing - Opera Embedded on Wii
Tilt controller - Only tilt? How GameBoy.
PSP connectivity - Wii has DS Connectivity... and people actually own DSs
And an even larger library of exclusive games than with the the PS1 or PS2. - That remains to be seen.
Post with your name, you shill.
The Wiimote isn't going to revolutionize gaming.
You say this because you cannot grasp the amount of control that the Wii-mote will bring.
A) Slashdot has a comment section for a reason.
B) I don't see collapsable anything in the winner's design.
C) You are a tool.
Nintendo does well in Europe. They struggle with the UK, but they do well on the mainland.
Its a sad state of affairs when Slashdot articles don't even celebrate the invention and the investment, but bitch just about the price and want LESS gadgets in the box, and when the MS supported standard is implicitly suggested to be a more "open" option.
Although Slashdot folks may salivate at a rocket powered toaster, most will not be willing to spend $600 for it.
to be honest, any scientist who disagrees, no matter how respectably, is at risk of losing his or her job.
No one ever links our warmig to this.
Seems to me that this is a case where people may be overlooking a very important non-human cause to global warming. Of course, that doesn't win you any funding now does it?
I'm as green as you get. I believe we need to reduce emmissions as sharply as we can, but I believe in real reasons like the health of humans and wildlife.
Exclusive Wii launch title: Metal Slug Anthology.
You're welcome.
Break the law and you may get caught, if you are a consumer. If you are a business, you get to settle out of court for pennies on the dollar.
tickets for events could be bought at an auction discount for events that aren't in high demand. I say that if they want to play the market for the popular tickets they should be forced to deal with the same system for the less popular.
I hate this brand of capitalism that always favors the corporations.
Iwata spoke about how there would be a range of prices for Wii games. I'd expect you will see a lot of $40-50 games and a few Katamari Damacy-esque $20-30 titles.
THQ went on record stating that the development costs for a Wii game was 25-50% that of the other next gen consoles.
Actually, you will probably see less quality games for the PSP in a year. No one is going to want to spend a PS2-esque budget on a portable game they can't port to something with a better user base. Most of the best PSP games are ports in one way or the other. When developers stop writing PS2 code, much of the incentive to make PSP games will vanish with it.
Inflation increases, but wages stay the same. God bless America.
I have two words for you:
"Ford" and "Firestone"
It was known at E3 that the final dev kits for the Wii did not exist yet. How can you expect the hardware to be finalized?
Last year, Microsoft's demos were running off macs. This year, people report that Sony's demos were PC based. At E3 2004, Sony fed PSP screens from a hidden dev kit. This is what happens.
Here's what is important: the controller and system work on some level. No one is in the back faking the Wii pointer.
Super Monkey Ball.
That is Sega. If you want to make your case then pick an actual Nintendo game... like Pikmin 2. You collected small treasures like Duracell batteries and tins of Carwax. Honestly, I think of Pikmin 2 as product placement done right. It lends a familiarity that generic items couldn't adding, however slightly, to the experience.
Both Sony AND MS are insisting that the HD era is ready for primetime
I never said other people weren't. Blu-Ray HD movies are a selling point of the PS3 and certain resolutions for those movies may not be available from non-HDMI connections. This is a conflict in business strategy.
I wasn't commenting about MS in my previous post, but since you mention them, the 360 is HD and all the HD functions are available to all HDTVs. The 360 has different problems with the different versions. When the HD-DVD drive comes out, it may have the same problem. I don't know.
Sony is not "the company trying to plug...," that's the entire movie industry and software industry, including MS. The fact is, Sony is distancing itself from that aspect of HD video.
So what if others do? The crippled Blu-Ray output on the $499 version will make it pointless as an HD movie player. Then you must ask yourself why you are paying extra for that drive when you won't be able to use it fully.
They have already promised to not use HDCP with their own movies. The reason for that is simply the lack of compatibility with over 90% of current HD televisions.
HD adoption is low now. What happens when the predicted HD boom happens and more TVs have HDMI than not? Will Sony change their minds then? Sony does not have a good record for keeping their promises. The ability is in there, and I don't hear Sony demanding it be removed.
Sony is the company insisting that the HD era is ready for primetime, and they are the company trying to "plug the analog hole" that non-HDMI standards have.
They are not only unnecessarily making life difficult for consumers, they are subverting their own HD message with the cheaper model.
He said, pick two.
You could have gameplay and low cost, but not flashy graphics.
You don't catch many people sitting at home playing cell phone games while their Xbox or PS2 gathers dust.
Maybe, but you do find people playing their DS or casual PC games in the presence of high-powered home consoles. Among my group of friends there is the much revered "drunken Pong tournament" where we set all the consoles aside for a Tele-Games Pong machine.
You may be different, but I'm pretty sure that even you have examples that break your own rules. Maybe I'm less of a fair-weather fan than other people, but I don't abandon things that I love simply because there is a shinier version. I may like the shinier version too, but that has nothing to do with what I liked about the older game.
There is a big difference between "looking good" and having cutting edge graphics. Most people agree that Geometry Wars both "looks good" and uses relatively simple graphics.
If a game s ugly, I won't be likely to sit through it. But I play games like Asteroids and Dig Dug on a regular basis, because beauty and simplicity are not mutually exclusive concepts.
That car better have been a diesel.
And let's get some mirrors in here!
Don't put them there. Put them in front of that sign--the one that says 599.