Just curious: which features of Oracle AS you cannot find the equivalents in the FOSS world?
I have been using Oracle products for long time but abandoned OracleAS because of the multiple free equivalents available and poor quality.
Oracle RAC seems to be appropriate for 2-, 4-, maybe 8-boxes setups, not 96.
Oracle RAC can be looked at as multiple Oracle instances on multiple computers acessing single, shared set of disks. As such, it imposes very strict limitations on what this shared setup might be. You can play with it using no more than firewire and shared external harddrive but, in production, it is typically choice of one of few and expensive SANs.
For me, the most important anticipated feature of Longhorn was its managed code foundation. The whole upper OS layer was supposed to be sitting on top of.NET 3.0 or whatever.
Now that would be somewhat innovative because such a system would be protected against buffer overflows and would provide nice, all-managed.NET interface for developers.
however, MS has not detailed how much of upcoming castrated Longhorn will be in managed code.Any thoughts?
would be cool if Ximian can pull all-managed desktop (based on Mono) before MS did.
Second that.
Software suspend 2 104 on Fujitsu Lifebook, Gentoo and stock kernel 2.6.8.1. Everything goes down and back up just fine. Software suspend guys liberated my computing environment;-)
God bless you all.
I am glad that these are the only things the guy who truly hates Java can come up with;-)
Eveything you listed is your friend, not enemy. Once you program for a while (and I mean 5,6,10 years), it will start coming to you.
Object casting Often, downright ugly, this "feature" ensures that every object is what you think it is. You delegate all the checking to the compiler so you program, when it is incorrect, fails early, in fact, fails before it runs. Failing early is the sign of great code.
try and catch Exception handling is a marvelous feature once you realize that from every situation there may be more than one (or two,..) ways out. Using exceptions allows much cleaner separation of the "normal" logic and the "error" logic. Now, whether all the exceptions must be checked, or if C# model is better - is a different question.
int and boolean Well, they are two completely different things, representing completely different animals in the real world. Why would you expect to be able to compare,assign, etc. apples to oranges?
native and object types Tend to agree with you there.
Precision Because IT IS an error when precesion is lost?
bytes bytes are bytes and numbers are numbers.
stacktrace allows to pinpoint your runtime problems
classpath can be messy but it is precise: only stuff from classpath will be loaded by your program, nothing less, nothing more.
It is amazing how many people discussing Mono here do not get it.
The future of the desktop programming and programming in general is in managed code and in frameworks / readily available stacks.
Before Mono, Linux did not have open-source stack to develop managed code. Productivity of someone armed with C# will be loads better than one with C.
To me, that is where the value of Mono is. Compatability with MS.NET is important but it is "nice", not must-have.
Thank you Miguel and Mono team. I hope Novell will treat youall right.
.. I got my Fujitsu E7110 to hibernate properly.
It is truly amazing to have XMMS and emerge/compile going and then you just click "hibernate" in KDE and everything dies/resurrects properly.
Thanks to Gentoo and people behind swsusp2.
Having done that, the Windows XP is now completely gone from my everyday environment.
pros: easy to switch the frontend
maybe faster
Ability to add more security. Important these days when everything runs under "web/web" or "prod/prod".
cons: no easy way to put under the source control - there is absolutely no way to be sure what exactly this particular installation is running. Too easy to change the source.
Flat, simple languages. No comparason with Java, etc as far as creativity, OOP, libraries, etc.
Different style of programming. Good SP developers are never on good terms with neither "enterprise" or LAMP programmers.
.. I finally got my Fujitsu laptop to correctly hibernate and (equally important) wake up! Now the very last reason to boot Windows for me has disappeared.
Kernel 2.6.7 and swsusp2 did the trick. I am going to become Gentoo zealot pretty soon.
>>either a dictatorship or a police state
It is always both. Dictatorship needs police state to prop itself up. The only way to stay in power "indefintely" is to supress all and any opposition and that implies spying on everyone all the time: police state.
.. I put the dish on the floor in the garage.
garage was facing south and we had these convinent remote controls. So if you want to watch tv - you just have to use one more remote to fire it up.
Oh I agree 100%. But the WP reviwer was not the average guy. For example, he correctly identitifed problem (feature;-) with Fedora and MP3s.
And he was making statements that THERE ARE NO gui tools.
It is a pity that neither distribution installs these (or equivalent) tools by default. The tools are there.
For Mandrake:
search Google for "easy urpmi". Follow instructions. Then use built-in GUI tools to find, pull down, install, upgrade whatever software you want.
For Fedora 2:
Search Google for apt-get rpm. Install it. do apt-get install synaptic. Use Synaptic GUI to find, pull down, install, upgrade whatever software you want.
It is really quite easy and powerful (tons of free stuff).
We define it today, simply, as sometings that is made of complex organics (proteins), eats, poops and (optionally) moves. But this is definition of just one form of life we know of today.
When arguing about life on Titan we must first remember what we know about life in general. The only thing that comes to mind - life is omni-present, once it takes hold there is no stopping to what it evolves.
I am always sceptical reading about possible ET life as bunch of miserable bacteria somewhere under the ice of Europa or rocks of Titan. Make no mistake - if there is life on Titan, it will be teaming with it.
And it is very possible. I would be very surprised if Titan is life-less. It would be a major "for" argument for the Creationism.
Titan is the most Earth-like place in the Solar system. Titan has complex organic muleculae, heat from tectonics and athmosperic electricity. They talked about surface features not caused by meteoric bombardment. It means: mountains, rivers, erosion (soil),etc.
How much we would learn about life on Earth by taking couple of hazy pics from 300000 km out? Keep your eyes open and I think we will be in for a big surprise come October (flyby) and January (probe).
not to argue your point, but the compilers/tools functionally equivalent to gcc and friends have been always available from MS for free including the latest.NET SDK.
news indeed.
Interesting how Slashdot picks up stories. There is either very elaborate process where they re-hash old stories in some kind of evil, traffic-generating agreement with other OSS and not OSS news sources or they just gave up on any process all together and it is just because.
.. of some sort?
I am thinking something as simple and easy to use as Mozilla Mail / Thunderbird.
I could not find anything. Seems like a must-have for such a powerful app.
something like 40% of the people who got the job are looking for another one.
There is NO loyalty anymore. I would be willing to commit to an employer if only I knew they would treat me decently. But that just does not happen.
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Just curious: which features of Oracle AS you cannot find the equivalents in the FOSS world?
I have been using Oracle products for long time but abandoned OracleAS because of the multiple free equivalents available and poor quality.
Oracle RAC can be looked at as multiple Oracle instances on multiple computers acessing single, shared set of disks. As such, it imposes very strict limitations on what this shared setup might be. You can play with it using no more than firewire and shared external harddrive but, in production, it is typically choice of one of few and expensive SANs.
Now that would be somewhat innovative because such a system would be protected against buffer overflows and would provide nice, all-managed
however, MS has not detailed how much of upcoming castrated Longhorn will be in managed code.Any thoughts?
would be cool if Ximian can pull all-managed desktop (based on Mono) before MS did.
Second that. ;-)
Software suspend 2 104 on Fujitsu Lifebook, Gentoo and stock kernel 2.6.8.1. Everything goes down and back up just fine. Software suspend guys liberated my computing environment
you can do decent search thru the PC-style data without relaying on links. See plug in my sig ;-)
I am glad that these are the only things the guy who truly hates Java can come up with
Eveything you listed is your friend, not enemy. Once you program for a while (and I mean 5,6,10 years), it will start coming to you.
Object casting
Often, downright ugly, this "feature" ensures that every object is what you think it is. You delegate all the checking to the compiler so you program, when it is incorrect, fails early, in fact, fails before it runs. Failing early is the sign of great code.
try and catch ..) ways out. Using exceptions allows much cleaner separation of the "normal" logic and the "error" logic. Now, whether all the exceptions must be checked, or if C# model is better - is a different question.
Exception handling is a marvelous feature once you realize that from every situation there may be more than one (or two,
int and boolean
Well, they are two completely different things, representing completely different animals in the real world. Why would you expect to be able to compare,assign, etc. apples to oranges?
native and object types
Tend to agree with you there.
Precision
Because IT IS an error when precesion is lost?
bytes
bytes are bytes and numbers are numbers.
stacktrace allows to pinpoint your runtime problems
classpath can be messy but it is precise: only stuff from classpath will be loaded by your program, nothing less, nothing more.
etc., got to go, do some uncool programming.
kinda hard to not pay attention to a smoking hole in the middle of New York and thousands dead
It is amazing how many people discussing Mono here do not get it. .NET is important but it is "nice", not must-have.
The future of the desktop programming and programming in general is in managed code and in frameworks / readily available stacks.
Before Mono, Linux did not have open-source stack to develop managed code. Productivity of someone armed with C# will be loads better than one with C.
To me, that is where the value of Mono is. Compatability with MS
Thank you Miguel and Mono team. I hope Novell will treat youall right.
It is truly amazing to have XMMS and emerge/compile going and then you just click "hibernate" in KDE and everything dies/resurrects properly.
Thanks to Gentoo and people behind swsusp2.
Having done that, the Windows XP is now completely gone from my everyday environment.
"Customers won't necessarily miss their connections," he said, "because everything was stopped."
pros:
easy to switch the frontend
maybe faster
Ability to add more security. Important these days when everything runs under "web/web" or "prod/prod".
cons:
no easy way to put under the source control - there is absolutely no way to be sure what exactly this particular installation is running. Too easy to change the source.
Flat, simple languages. No comparason with Java, etc as far as creativity, OOP, libraries, etc.
Different style of programming. Good SP developers are never on good terms with neither "enterprise" or LAMP programmers.
.. I finally got my Fujitsu laptop to correctly hibernate and (equally important) wake up! Now the very last reason to boot Windows for me has disappeared.
Kernel 2.6.7 and swsusp2 did the trick. I am going to become Gentoo zealot pretty soon.
>>either a dictatorship or a police state
It is always both. Dictatorship needs police state to prop itself up. The only way to stay in power "indefintely" is to supress all and any opposition and that implies spying on everyone all the time: police state.
.. I put the dish on the floor in the garage.
garage was facing south and we had these convinent remote controls. So if you want to watch tv - you just have to use one more remote to fire it up.
" the best way to mitigate the myriad problems in GNOME 2.6 is to include KDE in your install"
Article with a built-in troll!
Oh I agree 100%. But the WP reviwer was not the average guy. For example, he correctly identitifed problem (feature ;-) with Fedora and MP3s.
And he was making statements that THERE ARE NO gui tools.
It is a pity that neither distribution installs these (or equivalent) tools by default. The tools are there.
For Mandrake:
search Google for "easy urpmi". Follow instructions. Then use built-in GUI tools to find, pull down, install, upgrade whatever software you want.
For Fedora 2:
Search Google for apt-get rpm. Install it. do apt-get install synaptic. Use Synaptic GUI to find, pull down, install, upgrade whatever software you want.
It is really quite easy and powerful (tons of free stuff).
yeah but the 5.0 was the first usable one ;-)
We define it today, simply, as sometings that is made of complex organics (proteins), eats, poops and (optionally) moves. But this is definition of just one form of life we know of today.
When arguing about life on Titan we must first remember what we know about life in general. The only thing that comes to mind - life is omni-present, once it takes hold there is no stopping to what it evolves.
I am always sceptical reading about possible ET life as bunch of miserable bacteria somewhere under the ice of Europa or rocks of Titan. Make no mistake - if there is life on Titan, it will be teaming with it.
And it is very possible. I would be very surprised if Titan is life-less. It would be a major "for" argument for the Creationism.
Titan is the most Earth-like place in the Solar system. Titan has complex organic muleculae, heat from tectonics and athmosperic electricity. They talked about surface features not caused by meteoric bombardment. It means: mountains, rivers, erosion (soil),etc.
How much we would learn about life on Earth by taking couple of hazy pics from 300000 km out? Keep your eyes open and I think we will be in for a big surprise come October (flyby) and January (probe).
not to argue your point, but the compilers/tools functionally equivalent to gcc and friends have been always available from MS for free including the latest .NET SDK.
.. a search term. Please reboot to see your results."
news indeed.
Interesting how Slashdot picks up stories. There is either very elaborate process where they re-hash old stories in some kind of evil, traffic-generating agreement with other OSS and not OSS news sources or they just gave up on any process all together and it is just because.
.. of some sort?
I am thinking something as simple and easy to use as Mozilla Mail / Thunderbird.
I could not find anything. Seems like a must-have for such a powerful app.
giant leap for a private biz
Way to go. Looking forward to more.
something like 40% of the people who got the job are looking for another one.
There is NO loyalty anymore. I would be willing to commit to an employer if only I knew they would treat me decently. But that just does not happen.