Michael, I'm wondering, do you have a driver's license, credit card, any sort of ID, or do you not, cause that would allow "the man" access to your "private personal information?"
And what happens when you execute that script? Oh yeah, I'll tell you. You get a dialog box that says "A program is trying to access e-mail addresses you have stored in Outlook. Do you want to allow this? If this is unexpected, it may be a virus and you should choose 'No.'"
If you do allow access, it does so on a timer method, and closes access once the timer has elapsed (e.g., 1 minute.)
Any program that allows you to do this is BADLY designed.
That's bullshit. I think it's modular design. It makes things easy to integrate. For instance, it allows my Palm sync program to sync my e-mail addresses to/from my Palm. I get this message every time I sync.
What's to stop a shell script from reading your Pine addressbook and using 'mailx' to send e-mails out all over the place? Nothing. It's just that people used to write worms for Outlook (seen one in a while that affected recent versions? No.) cause so many people use it.
Plus, Pine doesn't have a calendar and doesn't sync with my PDA....
Unfortunately, 2002 is a little too solid. It blocks all.EXE files. Which I guess is fine, but the option to turn that off is a registry hack. Thanks MS! I didn't want to spend any time making a decision on that!
Actually if you run Exchange server, you can change your Exchange policies to push this change remotely. Only if they're local IMAP, etc clients do you have to use the registy script approach.
At one point, all software installation disks came in a EULA sealed envelope
I still have Windows 3.1, an old Microsoft C compiler, and DOS disks that came in those sticky envelopes. They had the EULA printed right on the envelope, and there was a big label over the opening that said "Do not open this unless you agree to the terms below." Or something.
"It's shite being Scottish. We're the lowest of the low. The scum of the fuckin' earth. Most people hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are colonised by wankers."
The electoral college is an ingenious solution to a large problem of voter apathy in the country. Only a sad, small percentage of people actually vote in this country. That doesn't sound very fair does it? This delegates the burden of the process of getting your states' citizens to the polls directly to the states themselves; it simply allocates a certain percentage of weight against the total national vote (the electoral college). This way, every states' residents are like "representatives" for that state's vote. Unlike other countries, here in the US we like to retain certain powers and stature to the states as individual entities. The only totally fair way to vote by popular vote, is to do something like the census, which we all know is impossible.
I assume you also refuse to own a PDA because it's not "open hardware" either, and you can't buy off the shelf parts to build one yourself?
Notebooks aren't meant to be "open compatible hardware." It's in the name: notebook. I assume you know what a notebook is. Two characteristics of a notebook are "small" and "light."
Is your solution to attach casters to the bottom of your tower case and tow it behind you with a leash? Maybe for you, but I think that's fucking retarded. Notebooks like this exist for the sole purpose of portability -- they fit in my bookbag. That's what notebook computers are for. I couldn't give a shit what kind of closed, top-secret, nuclear-powered hardware is inside, as long as 1) it's light 2) it fits in my bag with ease 3) it's sturdy 4) it does exactly what it's supposed to.
This isn't a liquid cooled heavily modded desktop we're talking about here. It's a friggin notebook. It's supposed to be small. Flame on.
The difference, however, being that Big Macs are expendable. Once you eat them, they're gone forever in their original form. Software on the other hand has the capability to be installed many times.
I think it's more akin to walking out of a department store with a sack full of stuff without a receipt. Sure, it may be your stuff, but ask Winona Ryder about that.
>What if someone put a license [gnu.org] on software that gave you rights, instead of just extorting money from you?<
The GPL doesn't give you shit. It's not worth the paper it's written on. I'm just waiting for the day someone tries to pursue this legally by suing someone for GPL violation. Any lawyer would laugh at this instead of taking the case. I'm being 100% serious.
The GPL may serve a symbolic purpose to some, but it sure as hell doesn't fucking empower you.
>instead of just extorting money from you<
Ahh, okay, now I understand the link to Debian. You must have some pseudo-religious belief that paying for software is inherently wrong. Can you for a moment accept the fact that the millions of dollars and hard work that goes into making a polished software product is worth some monetary value to someone? Just because you don't think so doesn't absolve you from paying for it, nor does it indicate that they are 'extorting' money from anyone else. They're just making a successful living.
Jealous of billg's riches? Well, too bad, some people are good businessmen and some aren't -- just because you're not the richest man in the world doesn't mean you should whine about it and make up all sorts of bullshit lies about how paying for software is "extortion," etc.
What if I claimed that McDonald's is extorting money from me every time I go in there and request a Big Mac. Because, hey, you shouldn't have to pay for food, damnit, so that's extortion! Food must be free! Too bad they don't license Big Macs under the GPL, because hey, if they give Big Macs away for free, they are empowered to sue me or something should I realize that the 'secret sauce' is really Thousand Island dressing.
Where am I going with this? I don't know. That is all.
In SOVIET RUSSIA, the Internet logs onto You! [yimg.com]
Bwahah, that's priceless.
Yeah but the Apple menu bar didn't have application buttons; i.e. all you could do on a mac was roll up the windows.
It's easier to pencil in 237-93-8732 than BDEADF00-C265-11D0-BCED-00A0C90AB50F into a scantron sheet....
Michael, I'm wondering, do you have a driver's license, credit card, any sort of ID, or do you not, cause that would allow "the man" access to your "private personal information?"
Because scripts don't execute automatically from Outlook?
Wait till they start radio-tagging the tinfoil hats. Then you won't know what the hell to do, will ya?
And what happens when you execute that script? Oh yeah, I'll tell you. You get a dialog box that says "A program is trying to access e-mail addresses you have stored in Outlook. Do you want to allow this? If this is unexpected, it may be a virus and you should choose 'No.'"
Ooooh, a screenshot!!
If you do allow access, it does so on a timer method, and closes access once the timer has elapsed (e.g., 1 minute.)
Any program that allows you to do this is BADLY designed.
That's bullshit. I think it's modular design. It makes things easy to integrate. For instance, it allows my Palm sync program to sync my e-mail addresses to/from my Palm. I get this message every time I sync.
What's to stop a shell script from reading your Pine addressbook and using 'mailx' to send e-mails out all over the place? Nothing. It's just that people used to write worms for Outlook (seen one in a while that affected recent versions? No.) cause so many people use it.
Plus, Pine doesn't have a calendar and doesn't sync with my PDA....
Unfortunately, 2002 is a little too solid. It blocks all .EXE files. Which I guess is fine, but the option to turn that off is a registry hack. Thanks MS! I didn't want to spend any time making a decision on that!
Actually if you run Exchange server, you can change your Exchange policies to push this change remotely. Only if they're local IMAP, etc clients do you have to use the registy script approach.
You're full of it, and admit it as your first and second sentences contradict each other!
That's like saying "Linux doesn't support USB at all."
"That's been fixed in the 2.4 kernel though."
You are either
1. Full of shit
2. Using a network managed by total and utter collective incompetence.
Windows 2000 shouldn't take more than 10-30 seconds to log in, and this includes running all sorts of login scripts. Logout shouldn't take > 5 secs.
Yeah that's why Microsoft has Windows XP compiled for IA64 -- playing Solitaire at 64 bits... oooooh yeah...
At one point, all software installation disks came in a EULA sealed envelope
I still have Windows 3.1, an old Microsoft C compiler, and DOS disks that came in those sticky envelopes. They had the EULA printed right on the envelope, and there was a big label over the opening that said "Do not open this unless you agree to the terms below." Or something.
"It's shite being Scottish. We're the lowest of the low. The scum of the fuckin' earth. Most people hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are colonised by wankers."
I think that just sums it up
so he goes ahead and votes for Nancy anyways (unless he is compelled to vote for Bob by law).
He isn't. This can actually happen, and I think it only happened once. Trying to remember back to high school Government and History here...
The electoral college is an ingenious solution to a large problem of voter apathy in the country. Only a sad, small percentage of people actually vote in this country. That doesn't sound very fair does it? This delegates the burden of the process of getting your states' citizens to the polls directly to the states themselves; it simply allocates a certain percentage of weight against the total national vote (the electoral college). This way, every states' residents are like "representatives" for that state's vote. Unlike other countries, here in the US we like to retain certain powers and stature to the states as individual entities. The only totally fair way to vote by popular vote, is to do something like the census, which we all know is impossible.
It's a pretty lame attempt to undermine the voting system which this country has had since it was founded.
Bush won anyway. Looks like their attempt to sabotage the electoral college failed.
No, IIRC XP Media Center is more like a TiVO.
Leaky electrolytic capacitors?
is this thread broken?
Just get a spam filter.
Do what you do with annoying Jehovah's Witnesses that come to your door -- don't let them in.
I think you meant "0.25% of computers users"
I assume you also refuse to own a PDA because it's not "open hardware" either, and you can't buy off the shelf parts to build one yourself?
Notebooks aren't meant to be "open compatible hardware." It's in the name: notebook. I assume you know what a notebook is. Two characteristics of a notebook are "small" and "light."
Is your solution to attach casters to the bottom of your tower case and tow it behind you with a leash? Maybe for you, but I think that's fucking retarded. Notebooks like this exist for the sole purpose of portability -- they fit in my bookbag. That's what notebook computers are for. I couldn't give a shit what kind of closed, top-secret, nuclear-powered hardware is inside, as long as 1) it's light 2) it fits in my bag with ease 3) it's sturdy 4) it does exactly what it's supposed to.
This isn't a liquid cooled heavily modded desktop we're talking about here. It's a friggin notebook. It's supposed to be small. Flame on.
Ahem, pardon my sailor-speak. I feel a bit "empowered" myself sometimes... ;) I'll be sure to check out de Maistre.
>Busted. I'm actually a commie. Mea culpa.
Gotcha there I guess.
The difference, however, being that Big Macs are expendable. Once you eat them, they're gone forever in their original form. Software on the other hand has the capability to be installed many times.
I think it's more akin to walking out of a department store with a sack full of stuff without a receipt. Sure, it may be your stuff, but ask Winona Ryder about that.
>What if someone put a license [gnu.org] on software that gave you rights, instead of just extorting money from you?<
The GPL doesn't give you shit. It's not worth the paper it's written on. I'm just waiting for the day someone tries to pursue this legally by suing someone for GPL violation. Any lawyer would laugh at this instead of taking the case. I'm being 100% serious.
The GPL may serve a symbolic purpose to some, but it sure as hell doesn't fucking empower you.
>instead of just extorting money from you<
Ahh, okay, now I understand the link to Debian. You must have some pseudo-religious belief that paying for software is inherently wrong. Can you for a moment accept the fact that the millions of dollars and hard work that goes into making a polished software product is worth some monetary value to someone? Just because you don't think so doesn't absolve you from paying for it, nor does it indicate that they are 'extorting' money from anyone else. They're just making a successful living.
Jealous of billg's riches? Well, too bad, some people are good businessmen and some aren't -- just because you're not the richest man in the world doesn't mean you should whine about it and make up all sorts of bullshit lies about how paying for software is "extortion," etc.
What if I claimed that McDonald's is extorting money from me every time I go in there and request a Big Mac. Because, hey, you shouldn't have to pay for food, damnit, so that's extortion! Food must be free! Too bad they don't license Big Macs under the GPL, because hey, if they give Big Macs away for free, they are empowered to sue me or something should I realize that the 'secret sauce' is really Thousand Island dressing.
Where am I going with this? I don't know. That is all.