"Like it or not, Apple spent a good deal of money developing Aqua and cultivating its image."
Ok, but how do you explain Apple threatening XTunes to change their name?
Especially since just two weeks later Apple unveils "iCal" calendaring software.. reguardless of the fact that there's already calendaring software for windows called iCal.
"Aethera is out there and I barely understand why the KDE folks don't put their full effort behind it instead of rolling their own."
Obviously, because it doesn't start with a 'K'.
Seriously.. KDE has the worst case of NIH I've ever seen. The Gnome project has no problem adopting existing technology and projects. Galeon, the Gnome browser, uses Mozilla, they turned AbiWord into a Gnome app (it didn't start out as a Gnome app).. but KDE has to reinvent the wheel. "AbiWord? Nah, we're not going to make KDE bindings for it, no matter how modular it is! We're going to start from scratch".
Someone needs to smack the KDE team and tell them to get over the NIH syndrome.. it's OK to use other people's apps as a basis for a KDE port.. that's what GPL is all about.
And stop naming every project KProjectname. Gnome doesn't do this anymore. It's Xchat, Evolution, Nautilus, AbiWord.. not GChat, Gevolution, Gnautilus, Gabiword.
"I think that Star Trek was ground breaking, for lots of reasons, not the least of which is the first inter-racial kiss on television."
If we're talking about the original Star Trek, hell, there was *inter-species* kissing going on. Kirk was definately ground breaking.. or is it ground pounding.. whichever.
"The two primary concerns in my mind are Redhat's removal of the KDE About Box, and their forking of the code base without renaming it. The former means that no user can know who wrote an application or what license it is under unless they look at the source code."
That's not true at all, in fact it's FUD spread by the KDE devs. The "About KDE" box has been removed.. the About box hasn't. The About box lists the Authors and the License, the About KDE just pointed to a bunch of "hooray for KDE" crap, which was *exactly* the same in each app.
The authors names and license are still in RedHat (null).
As far as the "forking" is concerned, I hardly think that adding a theme, and removing About KDE (the only changes there are, mind you) qualifies as a "fork".
"Ok, I'll start off by saying I am not familiar with Jabber, so please do not flame me if it does what I am about to describe - which is "Peer to peer IM services.""
I'm not going to flame you, but I am going to tell you that yes, you just described Jabber exactly. I send an IM to my friend bob@bobchat.com, and my IM server, talks to the server located at bobchat.com and passes the IM, which in turn passes it to Bob, if he's online, if he's not online, then it just holds onto the IM for him until he is.
The protocol is completely open, it's 100% XML.
Another nice Jabber feature is that people can't get "presence" info from you (they have no idea if you're signed on, away, or what-not) unless you allow them. So the added privacy is nice too.
So why don't you head on over to jabber.org and set yourself up a server. Jabber even supports Whiteboards now.
And just because I use php, you assume I don't know java? I do know java, we don't use it because of it's *insane* memory requirements. Sorry, but just having Tomcat idling costs hundreds of megs of ram.
I thought java was all about write once, run anywhere.. what's the point of java if you're using it server side? We're not exactly changing webservers every other day. Why not just use C++ or C# instead?
Java is a language without a purpose these days. No one wants to use it client side, and server side just doesn't make sense when compared to the initial purpose of the language (being able to run the same binary anywhere makes no sense when it's only going to be running on your webserver).
"shouldn't the headline be something like "Open-Source Desktops Gain on Proprietary, Non-Customizable Desktops"?"
Not even close, OSX is very much a Proprietary Non-Customizable Desktop.
Apple is even more anal than Microsoft when it comes to Aqua.
Darwin may be open source, but don't fool yourself, OSX isn't darwin.. It's Quartz and Aqua and a bunch of other closely guarded, proprietary technologies.
The ironic thing is that up until a few years ago, Bill Gates himself wouldn't qualify for that job, since he dropped out.
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I never thought I'd see the say when a "Think of the Children" knee-jerk post would be moderated as +1 Interesting.
What a retarded post, you're basically you have the right to judge what is art and what is not, and what other people should do with the hardware they own. Jerk.
"I'm to do all of this with just a piece of chalk,a computer, a few books, a bulletin board, a 45 minute more-or-less plan time and a big smile, all on a starting salary that qualifies my family for food stamps in many states."
That's the price you pay for not having any job skills.
I'm addicted to breathing... if I stop breathing for even a minute, my body goes through severe withdrawl. But someone told me that for all physical addictions, it's out of your system after 3 days and then you'll just need to cope with the mental addiction.
One of these days I'll hold my breath for 3 days, and finally kick this air addiction that's ruling my life and hindering my dream of becoming a merman.
True, and AIM isn't even a very bot friendly network in the first place. The whole "warn" system is screwed up. How is a bot supposed to deal with Anonymous Warnings?!
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"My computer has a xp 1600+ processor, yet gedit for example took 16 seconds to start (time gedit, then close the window as fast as possible)."
Well then technically gedit took 16 seconds for you to close down.
I just tried it, and on my K6 350, my total time was 2.5 seconds. So you got some serious hand-eye coordination issues.
"24 boot items ought to be enough for everybody!" - Gill Bates, XOSL Developer, 1980
Try not to install any operating systems on the way to the parking lot!
"Like it or not, Apple spent a good deal of money developing Aqua and cultivating its image."
Ok, but how do you explain Apple threatening XTunes to change their name?
Especially since just two weeks later Apple unveils "iCal" calendaring software.. reguardless of the fact that there's already calendaring software for windows called iCal.
"Here in Canada, when we want to imply that society is racist/fascist (KKK like) we spell it Kanada."
This is true, but the KDE people don't seem to accept that. Bill Klinton, Amerika, etc, changing a C into a K gives it a racist/fascist overtone.
"Aethera is out there and I barely understand why the KDE folks don't put their full effort behind it instead of rolling their own."
Obviously, because it doesn't start with a 'K'.
Seriously.. KDE has the worst case of NIH I've ever seen. The Gnome project has no problem adopting existing technology and projects. Galeon, the Gnome browser, uses Mozilla, they turned AbiWord into a Gnome app (it didn't start out as a Gnome app).. but KDE has to reinvent the wheel. "AbiWord? Nah, we're not going to make KDE bindings for it, no matter how modular it is! We're going to start from scratch".
Someone needs to smack the KDE team and tell them to get over the NIH syndrome.. it's OK to use other people's apps as a basis for a KDE port.. that's what GPL is all about.
And stop naming every project KProjectname. Gnome doesn't do this anymore. It's Xchat, Evolution, Nautilus, AbiWord.. not GChat, Gevolution, Gnautilus, Gabiword.
Could this be considered Green wireless networking ?
"I think that Star Trek was ground breaking, for lots of reasons, not the least of which is the first inter-racial kiss on television."
If we're talking about the original Star Trek, hell, there was *inter-species* kissing going on. Kirk was definately ground breaking.. or is it ground pounding.. whichever.
"The two primary concerns in my mind are Redhat's removal of the KDE About Box, and their forking of the code base without renaming it. The former means that no user can know who wrote an application or what license it is under unless they look at the source code."
That's not true at all, in fact it's FUD spread by the KDE devs. The "About KDE" box has been removed.. the About box hasn't. The About box lists the Authors and the License, the About KDE just pointed to a bunch of "hooray for KDE" crap, which was *exactly* the same in each app.
The authors names and license are still in RedHat (null).
As far as the "forking" is concerned, I hardly think that adding a theme, and removing About KDE (the only changes there are, mind you) qualifies as a "fork".
"However, they have modified the code for KDE. This seems to be the main reason that the KDE developers are upset."
Well KDE can either change to a proprietary license, or go to hell.. I really don't care which.
"Ok, I'll start off by saying I am not familiar with Jabber, so please do not flame me if it does what I am about to describe - which is "Peer to peer IM services.""
I'm not going to flame you, but I am going to tell you that yes, you just described Jabber exactly. I send an IM to my friend bob@bobchat.com, and my IM server, talks to the server located at bobchat.com and passes the IM, which in turn passes it to Bob, if he's online, if he's not online, then it just holds onto the IM for him until he is.
The protocol is completely open, it's 100% XML.
Another nice Jabber feature is that people can't get "presence" info from you (they have no idea if you're signed on, away, or what-not) unless you allow them. So the added privacy is nice too.
So why don't you head on over to jabber.org and set yourself up a server. Jabber even supports Whiteboards now.
And just because I use php, you assume I don't know java? I do know java, we don't use it because of it's *insane* memory requirements. Sorry, but just having Tomcat idling costs hundreds of megs of ram.
I thought java was all about write once, run anywhere.. what's the point of java if you're using it server side? We're not exactly changing webservers every other day. Why not just use C++ or C# instead?
Java is a language without a purpose these days. No one wants to use it client side, and server side just doesn't make sense when compared to the initial purpose of the language (being able to run the same binary anywhere makes no sense when it's only going to be running on your webserver).
I'd say the number one reason why people are moving over to Apache2 is due to PHP's slowness in supporting it.
Yeah, yeah, I hear everyone saying "PHP 4.2 works fine with Apache2" Well, we're not touching it as long as it labels apxs2 support as "experimental"
"shouldn't the headline be something like "Open-Source Desktops Gain on Proprietary, Non-Customizable Desktops"?"
Not even close, OSX is very much a Proprietary Non-Customizable Desktop.
Apple is even more anal than Microsoft when it comes to Aqua.
Darwin may be open source, but don't fool yourself, OSX isn't darwin.. It's Quartz and Aqua and a bunch of other closely guarded, proprietary technologies.
The ironic thing is that up until a few years ago, Bill Gates himself wouldn't qualify for that job, since he dropped out.
I never thought I'd see the say when a "Think of the Children" knee-jerk post would be moderated as +1 Interesting.
What a retarded post, you're basically you have the right to judge what is art and what is not, and what other people should do with the hardware they own. Jerk.
Good thing Earth already has a built in air bag, it's called "the atmosphere".
"I'm to do all of this with just a piece of chalk,a computer, a few books, a bulletin board, a 45 minute more-or-less plan time and a big smile, all on a starting salary that qualifies my family for food stamps in many states."
That's the price you pay for not having any job skills.
I don't know about liquid nitrogen, but you can pick up a pint of ben & jerry's anywhere... much tastier.
Some addictions aren't bad anyways.
I'm addicted to breathing... if I stop breathing for even a minute, my body goes through severe withdrawl. But someone told me that for all physical addictions, it's out of your system after 3 days and then you'll just need to cope with the mental addiction.
One of these days I'll hold my breath for 3 days, and finally kick this air addiction that's ruling my life and hindering my dream of becoming a merman.
"You idiot. I'f your'e gonna "act" like a linux user, put the right commands..."
/dev/dsp with a shell script.
I made a single typo. You made two while correcting me.
Besides, perhaps I replaced
I wonder if I can
/proc/kcore | /dev/dsp
cat
to put my computer to sleep.
Yes, but how many of those KDE users use Gnome/Gtk apps every day, versus Gnome users who use KDE/qt apps every day?
I think it's safe to say that Gnome/Gtk is more widely used when you take the apps into account.
True, and AIM isn't even a very bot friendly network in the first place. The whole "warn" system is screwed up. How is a bot supposed to deal with Anonymous Warnings?!
" Silly man, those where "pucks". Entirely different. See, these are MICE."
Actually, it's mouses. It sounds funny, but the plural of computer mouse is computer mouses, not computer mice.