> >Seisint Inc., is a Boca Raton, Fla., company founded by a millionaire, Hank Asher, who stepped down from its board of directors last year after revelations of past ties to drug smugglers.
> >
Anyone care to guess one of the main sources of terrorist income?
> Likely it's two on the front and two on the back... the whole point of these shirts are to get attention, so they want the sound going in 360 degrees, not just one way.
Whoa. Genetic engineers have designed a female human with an extra set of boobs on her back?
> > How long before the feds make it a requirement (via some law similiar to PATRTIOT) to keep logs? > >And along those lines, would US hosting companies shift servers and other infrastructure (potentially some staff) overseas to allow them to retain certain sites?
Hint #1: You can sue a US-based spammer even when his hosting company is in China.
Hint #2: In this case, you don't just sue - you write PATRIOT-II (or pass PATRIOT-III if you were shortsighted) to add a new charge to the list, namely something along the lines of "Funneling money to foreign nationals in order to evade logging responsibilities required by PATRIOT-II".
Hint #3: Yes, preservation of such logs would be a burden (an unfunded mandate, if you will) on US-based hosting companies. CALEA requires that phone companies provide access to law enforcement and that they build their systems so that lawful communications access can always take place. A drafter of PATRIOT-II would do well to follow this model - and merely requires hosting companies to permit lawful access to the stream of URLs. Let the Feds do the logging by installing whatever gear is necessary. (Let the Feds buy the gear, etc.) No costs need to be shoveled onto the hosting companies; just allocate a billion or two for an assload of network gear and fast hard drives, and pass a law that requires that they be installed at the Internet's chokepoints.
Moral of the story: When someone with questionable political allegiance commits a crime (hosting of copyrighted internal memos), and when they do so in order to subvert the faith that otherwise loyal citizens would have in their leaders (an act that borders on honest-to-Gawd sedition), you may think you have a right to read those memos -- but whether you have such a right, you have a responsibility (to the State) not to read them.
Only members of duly-appointed election committees have a responsibility to read such memos. Unless you're one of them, you don't have a need to know. Those who downloaded this material without a need to know will presumably get what's coming to them. Buh-bye, nice knowin' y'all, thanks for playing. Better luck next life. Try the gruel. I'm here all week.:-)
> > As long as the strike is taking place, orders for new service and repair of existing services with SBC will be delayed > > Can't speak for SBC, but if this was Verizon in New York, my response would be "How could you tell?"
Oh, easy. When you give up and decide to do your own wiring isntead, look around for big fat slobs. If there are no big fat slobs threatening to break your fingers, you know they're not yet on strike.
Whoa. We all knew Nintendo had been trying to break out of the "cute" market for a while, but isn't this overkill?
What's next? The GameBoy DS being given two tongue-controlled inputs so you and your date can get in a few practice rounds of "See Luigi the Cunning Linguist rescues the Perky Princess of Pr0n" before the main event? Will E3 2005 bring on the GameBoy DVDA?
I'll pass on the Zelda erotic fan fiction, sorry people, I don't do elves. But chicks in spacesuits, well, now you're talkin' my language. Bring on the Metroid Pr0ne!
> It is a fact after you do open your net up there is no way for them to proove that you commited the illegal acts.
Correct. If the illegal act is the downloading of MP3z through a P2P network, that's not so bad, because the DMCA practically requires that Comcast act as an intermediary between RIAA/MPAA and you. Furthermore, because the aggreived parties, namely RIAA/MPAA, are private organizations, they can't really make your life all that miserable.
If, however, the illegal act involves the transmission of threats against certain very important people, or the downloading of other sorts of material through P2P network, RIAA/MPAA are not the aggreived parties. In these cases, the aggreived parties are the sorts of people who can, will, and who are pretty damn good at making lives miserable... We're not just talking "miserable", we're talking "miserably short":-)
> The fact that you did this opening up by stupidity or on purpose does not change that fact.
Your assignment today is to grok, in its fullness, the concept of "attractive nuisance".
> It's not trademark law. The family never trademarked the term "Googol." It's not copyright law, or else a whole lot of mathematics textbooks are in trouble. For once it's not Patent law.
> >
Is there even a realm of law that would cover such a thing?
> > It's a good thing Linus has a sense of humor. He might smite them down." > > I wouldn't be sickened by this comment if it had been modded funny instead of insightful...
Yeah. As Bill Murray might say, he's a God, not the God.
> (I mean, it is pretty sad when they have to offer a life sized pillow-doll of Kasumi from DOA as a freebie when you buy an X-Box in order to sell the thing in Japan.)
*shudder*. "Life-sized pillow doll". Starting at several dozen light years beyond the pale, you then go on to describe something so far beyond the pale that it couldn't find the pale with very long baseline interferometry.
There's a Fark Photoshop theme in there somewhere. Any farkers goin' to E3? Difficulty: Eeeew.
> They probably got this from some data mining software that processes internet traffic. I'm not surprised that a program would pick this up and not realize that it's a fictional character.
Which reminds me, never mind this Fulci guy, it's been over 20 years and they still haven't found Carmen Sandiego! Where in the world is she?
> But also if your using electronics solder, with the flux built it, the spatters will burn the top of your thighs pretty good. Not that i do boardwork in my boxers often...
OK, I read all the advice on this thread and I took my underwear off when I did some soldering last weekend. I don't care what you say, next time, the underwear stays on.
P.S. You're all bastards. I hate you all. Someone hand me another bag of frozen corn?
> The prize for this should be ownership of hubble. Who ever can fix it, gets it!
Not a bad idea -- NASA's willing to write it off, there's a market for images from Hubble (from scientists who need to do research -- and even if it's grant money we're talking about, they could choose to spend that money for Hubble time, or spend it on adaptive optics from Earth, etc.) so why not let a private contractor salvage it and sell it out if he thinks he can make a buck while doing so?
While we're at it -- why not back out of that asinine space treaty that prohibits private ownership of offworld land? The first person to get to Mars, spend one year there, and return alive, owns Mars.
If it costs x dollars to get to Mars on the Zubrin plan, and you expect Mars to be worth more than, say, 10 * x dollars in 5-10 years, then founding Mars, Inc. is a worthy investment. Otherwise, it's not.
As technology advances, someday the cost to get there will drop, and/or the expected of Mars (tourism, science, people who want to colonize a new world just for the heck of it) will increase.
If there's a property reward of an entire farking planet available for the taking, human nature guarantees that the mission to Mars will start the same day it makes sense to go there. No worrying about NASA wasting $1T on flags-and-footprints PR exercises (going before we're ready). But also no waiting for NASA bureaucrats to twiddle their thumbs for decades after we're ready.
> Hell, if I were out of work and someone *wanted* to pay me to take some pics of me naked, I sure as hell would do it!!
> >
Thank you for publicly proclaiming your moral illness. Unfortunately, you've left out your address, so I can't tell my kids who to stay the heck away from.
Why would you have to tell your kids to stay the heck away from him, unless you believe your kids would pay money to see a Slashdotter naked?
And you're calling him the sick fuck?
(There was a line in here about pots and kettles, but why bring the interracial kitchenware fetishists into it?)
> Anybody not see this coming from a company that patents ideas coming from a industry meeting,
slipped their proprietary IP into open standards, sued the manufacturers of their products, and generally behaved as a two year old in the ethics department? > >
Man, who would chose to work for this company?
I hear Darl McBride'll be looking for work pretty soon.
Apparently, someone told him he could still sue people who refused to pay the additional $69.90 for the stick of RDRAM that RAMBUS forgot to bundle with every $699.00 SCO OpenSewer License.
> I can imagine flight attendates augmenting the usual shpill: > > We ask at this time that you turn off any cell phones, laptops, PDAs and GPS-enabled soda cans....
Imagine being the poor bastard who buys the winning can, doesn't know it, and tosses the can into his luggage so he's got something to drink while he waits for his flight.
And then he goes to the security checkpoint...
"Sir, could you please step behind the curtain?"
*sound of six rubber gloves being snapped on, and safeties on 20 machine guns being removed*
"No, Sir, nothing's wrong. By the way, you might want to avoid making any sudden moves."
For every weird kink, perversion, or degenerate behavior, there exists at least one adherent. Proof is left as an exercise for the Internet.
- source unknown. [Can anyone provide an attribution?]
Figuring I'd put it to the test, I made the mistake of Googling for ASFR.
Alt.sex.fetish.robots.
Chalk up another data point in favor. And remind me never to pipe the captured output of an NNTP session's LISTGROUPS command through sort | grep "alt.sex" again. What the fuck was I thinking?
Now if you'll pardon me, I've gotta find out what sick fuck issued a newgroup for alt.sex.cthulhu. I'm already sinking, I may as well dive into the deep end, right?
> > You forgot the third possibility. Suppose the power indicator LED is orange: it's hard to tell if we're in a superposition of states or merely oscillating very rapidly. > >...or that some bonehead wired the unit up to 24VAC instead of DC....
Fifth possibility. How about 24VDC and no current-limiting resistor? It may not be observed for very long, but it will be observed as orange...
> Sure they do... the system has a green light on. If the red light were on it would be on standby and no light may mean there is no power, or the light is broken. But as long s the green light is on they know it's working. > >Surely everyone knows that. Now please increase my grant
You forgot the third possibility. Suppose the power indicator LED is orange: it's hard to tell if we're in a superposition of states or merely oscillating very rapidly.
Or I just want a high-speed digital camera for Christmas.
> Now AOL/Time-Warner is back to being Time-Warner, the old line guys are getting revenge on the dot-com upstarts, and the whole thing seems like a bad idea gone wrong from the start.
First off - yes, the merger made no fucking business sense whatsoever.
Watching it unravel was a great window into two disparate (and ultimately, mutually-exclusive) corporate cultures interact.
The most telling example was the reaction of "West Coast" (AOL/dotcom) culture with "East Coast" (Time-Warner/traditional media) culture when it came to what to do with their respective stocks/options.
West Coast culture says "W00hoo! The business rationale for this is pretty silly, but look at our stock price! People actually believe the hype. I could cash in my options and have fuck-you money, plus a few shares left over in case things work out. AWESOME!"
East Coast culture says "This is huge... but you can't just cash in your options -- that would take away your only motivation to make it work! Everyone'll look at you funny. Where's your loyalty? This kind of thing could get you kicked out of the country club! How could you?" (Or for 95% of East Coast employees, "What are these 'options' things again? And why do these West Coast people all seem to have them, and why are they so happy? I thought you had to be in a country club to do that sort of thing!")
OK, I'm stereotyping both the East and West coast cultures here, but you get my drift. When the worldviews of two sets of employees are that far apart, and especially when things start to go wrong, you're going to end up with a lot of bitterness from the boardroom on down, and such a merger is a recipe for disaster even when it does make business sense.
Was the merger a disaster? Sure. Are the old-line guys back in charge? Yup. But who really won? I'd argue that the AOL shareholders are the winners here, regardless of who's in charge of rehabilitating the broken down shell of the media giant.
I'm sorry, I'm not cleared to know that. If I could tell you, I'd have to kill me.
>
> Anyone care to guess one of the main sources of terrorist income?
Spam? :)
Whoa. Genetic engineers have designed a female human with an extra set of boobs on her back?
SCIENCE MARCHES ON! W00T!
>
>And along those lines, would US hosting companies shift servers and other infrastructure (potentially some staff) overseas to allow them to retain certain sites?
Hint #1: You can sue a US-based spammer even when his hosting company is in China.
Hint #2: In this case, you don't just sue - you write PATRIOT-II (or pass PATRIOT-III if you were shortsighted) to add a new charge to the list, namely something along the lines of "Funneling money to foreign nationals in order to evade logging responsibilities required by PATRIOT-II".
Hint #3: Yes, preservation of such logs would be a burden (an unfunded mandate, if you will) on US-based hosting companies. CALEA requires that phone companies provide access to law enforcement and that they build their systems so that lawful communications access can always take place. A drafter of PATRIOT-II would do well to follow this model - and merely requires hosting companies to permit lawful access to the stream of URLs. Let the Feds do the logging by installing whatever gear is necessary. (Let the Feds buy the gear, etc.) No costs need to be shoveled onto the hosting companies; just allocate a billion or two for an assload of network gear and fast hard drives, and pass a law that requires that they be installed at the Internet's chokepoints.
Moral of the story: When someone with questionable political allegiance commits a crime (hosting of copyrighted internal memos), and when they do so in order to subvert the faith that otherwise loyal citizens would have in their leaders (an act that borders on honest-to-Gawd sedition), you may think you have a right to read those memos -- but whether you have such a right, you have a responsibility (to the State) not to read them.
Only members of duly-appointed election committees have a responsibility to read such memos. Unless you're one of them, you don't have a need to know. Those who downloaded this material without a need to know will presumably get what's coming to them. Buh-bye, nice knowin' y'all, thanks for playing. Better luck next life. Try the gruel. I'm here all week. :-)
The hands acquire shakes!
The shakes become a warning!
BY CAFFEINE ALONE I SET MY MIND IN MOTION!
>
> Can't speak for SBC, but if this was Verizon in New York, my response would be "How could you tell?"
Oh, easy. When you give up and decide to do your own wiring isntead, look around for big fat slobs. If there are no big fat slobs threatening to break your fingers, you know they're not yet on strike.
What's next? The GameBoy DS being given two tongue-controlled inputs so you and your date can get in a few practice rounds of "See Luigi the Cunning Linguist rescues the Perky Princess of Pr0n" before the main event? Will E3 2005 bring on the GameBoy DVDA?
I'll pass on the Zelda erotic fan fiction, sorry people, I don't do elves. But chicks in spacesuits, well, now you're talkin' my language. Bring on the Metroid Pr0ne!
Correct. If the illegal act is the downloading of MP3z through a P2P network, that's not so bad, because the DMCA practically requires that Comcast act as an intermediary between RIAA/MPAA and you. Furthermore, because the aggreived parties, namely RIAA/MPAA, are private organizations, they can't really make your life all that miserable.
If, however, the illegal act involves the transmission of threats against certain very important people, or the downloading of other sorts of material through P2P network, RIAA/MPAA are not the aggreived parties. In these cases, the aggreived parties are the sorts of people who can, will, and who are pretty damn good at making lives miserable... We're not just talking "miserable", we're talking "miserably short" :-)
> The fact that you did this opening up by stupidity or on purpose does not change that fact.
Your assignment today is to grok, in its fullness, the concept of "attractive nuisance".
>
> Is there even a realm of law that would cover such a thing?
Darl McBride's Fantasy World Law?
>
> I wouldn't be sickened by this comment if it had been modded funny instead of insightful...
Yeah. As Bill Murray might say, he's a God, not the God.
>
> With FairPlay v3.
I give 2:1 odds and 500 quatloos that says v3 is cracked within 48 hours.
Anyone care to take 10:1 and 50 quatloos that says it's less than 24?
*shudder*. "Life-sized pillow doll". Starting at several dozen light years beyond the pale, you then go on to describe something so far beyond the pale that it couldn't find the pale with very long baseline interferometry.
There's a Fark Photoshop theme in there somewhere. Any farkers goin' to E3? Difficulty: Eeeew.
Which reminds me, never mind this Fulci guy, it's been over 20 years and they still haven't found Carmen Sandiego! Where in the world is she?
OK, I read all the advice on this thread and I took my underwear off when I did some soldering last weekend. I don't care what you say, next time, the underwear stays on.
P.S. You're all bastards. I hate you all. Someone hand me another bag of frozen corn?
> Pass: 1234
>
>That's the default. They also recommend at install time that you don't change that.
What? That's the stupidest password I've ever heard in my life. That's even less secure than the kind of thing a n00b would put on his router!
>
>(what can I say? It is karma-burn friday. May be overrated, but it sure isn't offtopic for once!)
Overrated, on topic, but you lose teh funnay because you got it backwards.
In Soviet Russia, you watch Cable TV.
Not a bad idea -- NASA's willing to write it off, there's a market for images from Hubble (from scientists who need to do research -- and even if it's grant money we're talking about, they could choose to spend that money for Hubble time, or spend it on adaptive optics from Earth, etc.) so why not let a private contractor salvage it and sell it out if he thinks he can make a buck while doing so?
While we're at it -- why not back out of that asinine space treaty that prohibits private ownership of offworld land? The first person to get to Mars, spend one year there, and return alive, owns Mars.
If it costs x dollars to get to Mars on the Zubrin plan, and you expect Mars to be worth more than, say, 10 * x dollars in 5-10 years, then founding Mars, Inc. is a worthy investment. Otherwise, it's not.
As technology advances, someday the cost to get there will drop, and/or the expected of Mars (tourism, science, people who want to colonize a new world just for the heck of it) will increase.
If there's a property reward of an entire farking planet available for the taking, human nature guarantees that the mission to Mars will start the same day it makes sense to go there. No worrying about NASA wasting $1T on flags-and-footprints PR exercises (going before we're ready). But also no waiting for NASA bureaucrats to twiddle their thumbs for decades after we're ready.
>
> Thank you for publicly proclaiming your moral illness. Unfortunately, you've left out your address, so I can't tell my kids who to stay the heck away from.
Why would you have to tell your kids to stay the heck away from him, unless you believe your kids would pay money to see a Slashdotter naked? And you're calling him the sick fuck?
(There was a line in here about pots and kettles, but why bring the interracial kitchenware fetishists into it?)
>
> Man, who would chose to work for this company?
I hear Darl McBride'll be looking for work pretty soon.
Apparently, someone told him he could still sue people who refused to pay the additional $69.90 for the stick of RDRAM that RAMBUS forgot to bundle with every $699.00 SCO OpenSewer License.
>
> We ask at this time that you turn off any cell phones, laptops, PDAs and GPS-enabled soda cans....
Imagine being the poor bastard who buys the winning can, doesn't know it, and tosses the can into his luggage so he's got something to drink while he waits for his flight.
And then he goes to the security checkpoint...
"Sir, could you please step behind the curtain?"
*sound of six rubber gloves being snapped on, and safeties on 20 machine guns being removed*
"No, Sir, nothing's wrong. By the way, you might want to avoid making any sudden moves."
Wouldn't it make sense to sterilize it before use? Wetware or Robot, it just makes sense.
So I read the SomethingAwful page.
Figuring I'd put it to the test, I made the mistake of Googling for ASFR.
Alt.sex.fetish.robots.
Chalk up another data point in favor. And remind me never to pipe the captured output of an NNTP session's LISTGROUPS command through sort | grep "alt.sex" again. What the fuck was I thinking?
Now if you'll pardon me, I've gotta find out what sick fuck issued a newgroup for alt.sex.cthulhu. I'm already sinking, I may as well dive into the deep end, right?
>
>
Fifth possibility. How about 24VDC and no current-limiting resistor? It may not be observed for very long, but it will be observed as orange...
>
>Surely everyone knows that. Now please increase my grant
You forgot the third possibility. Suppose the power indicator LED is orange: it's hard to tell if we're in a superposition of states or merely oscillating very rapidly.
Or I just want a high-speed digital camera for Christmas.
First off - yes, the merger made no fucking business sense whatsoever.
Watching it unravel was a great window into two disparate (and ultimately, mutually-exclusive) corporate cultures interact.
The most telling example was the reaction of "West Coast" (AOL/dotcom) culture with "East Coast" (Time-Warner/traditional media) culture when it came to what to do with their respective stocks/options.
West Coast culture says "W00hoo! The business rationale for this is pretty silly, but look at our stock price! People actually believe the hype. I could cash in my options and have fuck-you money , plus a few shares left over in case things work out. AWESOME!"
East Coast culture says "This is huge... but you can't just cash in your options -- that would take away your only motivation to make it work! Everyone'll look at you funny. Where's your loyalty? This kind of thing could get you kicked out of the country club! How could you?" (Or for 95% of East Coast employees, "What are these 'options' things again? And why do these West Coast people all seem to have them, and why are they so happy? I thought you had to be in a country club to do that sort of thing!")
OK, I'm stereotyping both the East and West coast cultures here, but you get my drift. When the worldviews of two sets of employees are that far apart, and especially when things start to go wrong, you're going to end up with a lot of bitterness from the boardroom on down, and such a merger is a recipe for disaster even when it does make business sense.
Was the merger a disaster? Sure. Are the old-line guys back in charge? Yup. But who really won? I'd argue that the AOL shareholders are the winners here, regardless of who's in charge of rehabilitating the broken down shell of the media giant.