Victim (9 states) sure! let me just holster my gun that I could have killed you with!
I don't think that was a good move. They had evidence that could have possibly proven Bill G. lied in court and that Windows could be made modular. Any attack would have been better than no attack at all.
"And will anyone buy a stripped-down version of Windows?"
I wouldn't but for anyone who is hopelessly stuck to the Winopoly, i would recommend it if it does a better job.
"Is this hacked, pseudo-embedded system really going to do its job any better than Windows XP does right now?"
I would hope so. Since it's designed to run on not-so-computers, it should run a bit faster on a P4 1.7gHz. At least one would think so since it's modular. Hope there's a "phone home" package to disable.:)
Ok...so we can't kill, steal or what have you in real life. Completely understandable. But to make a law to stop it in a place where it causes no harm to anyone, is a waste of time and my tax dollars. We shouldn't make any excuses for bad parenting. Just putting laws like this on video games keeps it out of the hands of minors which can tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Thereby creating more "criminals" and boosting the tax base because of the imposed fines for breaking this law.
"The nature of the oppression seems not be be precisely the same, depending on which side of the pond you're on. In the UK you just count up the total number of eligible (i.e. compulsory, according to the redefinition of the word) machines, pay your dues then you get the following:
"Microsoft Office Standard and Professional Editions (for Windows and Macintosh)
Works Standard
Windows Upgrade
Core Client Access Licence
Encarta Reference Suite and Encarta Online
Visual Studio Professional
Microsoft Press Office Starts Here Step by Step Interactive"
So instead of paying for Windows itself, you're paying for the right to have a computer according to microsoft...what utter BS. I still don't see how they can get away with this. Anyhoo, click here for some good laughs.
All they have to do is reverse Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad and all free speech problems such as this are solved! As long as corporations are counted as people and make lies about various things in public (sweatshops for example), free speech rights will always be in jeopardy. 1st amendment rights aren't something that should be used as a convenient defence against lying in public.
I really don't see why they didn't. They already had their hands in the Dreamcast with WinCE and IE for web surfing. But, if the X-box was in development at the time of Sega's leaving the console market, that would have conflicted with their PR stance. To hear of a new console from them right after they bought Sega out would have a few people thinking that it was nothing but a rehash of the dreamcast with microsoft logos and a big green X on it.
I think somebody (mabye us) should all make copies of linux that can run off of CDs and give them out to random people. That way they can try it out, and if they don't like it, take it out and reboot.
"There is no clear dividing line between where a particular block of "middleware" ends and the rest of the operating system begins," Gates said.
Explorer's binding to the operating system was a mistake. Binding WMP8 to the operating system was a bigger mistake. Hell, I think binding any programs to the operating system is a mistake. Just because if it fails, the OS goes down with it. I believe the operating system begins where the human sees nothing. "Software" comes in for human interaction. Explorer, KDE Gnome, Litestep, Winamp, WMP8, all software. Releasing a modular version of Windows might actually be a good thing. That means that programs wouldn't be so much "tied" into the system like WMP8 and Explorer, and might actually *fix* the blue screen problem, instead of crippling the system like BG cries about.
"Today [...] the marketplace rewards low quality. More precisely, it rewards early releases at the expense of almost all quality."
Was he thinking of Windows XP when he wrote this?
Anyhoo, I agree with him about the ineffective airline security measures after September 11. If someone wanted to get on a plane and run it into some building, soldiers in terminals and having guards check for tickets at the gate won't stop them. If they really felt like doing so, I don't think spending the $200-whatever for a ticket is going to deter them. I think it's just there for looks. (they confiscate nail clippers for crying out loud)
I don't think we should put too much trust into this guy. He tried to hand everyone's computers on a silver platter to the entertainment industry, and if this does pass, he could end up using it as a "you owe us" kind of thing.
If this does go through, does that mean that government webites will only accept IE as a browser? I can see why they would. Just exploit one of the many bugs and you're in. Who needs Magic Lantern when MS will take care of it for them?
Is everyone just itching to destroy the first amendment? Seriously, Google and the German Court, Google and church of Scientology, Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act...
Damn...
Anyhoo, why don't they just make a HTML tag and ask them to place it in all porn pages and fix browsers with an option to use it. No court or congress time wasted, and kids won't have to deal with porn pop-ups.
You meet this really good looking girl(guy), and you take them up to your apartment in Times Square. Things begin to get a little steamy with the red Coca-Cola billboard in the background. Just when things are about to get started, they say...
THIS IS AN UNAUTHORIZED DREAM SEQUENCE WITH UNAUTHORIZED ADVERTISING CHANGES. YOU WILL NOW BE INTESTINATED.
AAAAIIIIGGHH!!!!!
Seriously, when companies begin to try to control your imagination for marketing purposes, you know something is messed up. They didn't give any money to help with the production of the film, so they really don't deserve jack sh*t.
WinXP can't be made modular! Boo hoo!! STFU. The evidence that WinXP is modular was right in front of their faces and it's about time that they were called on it. Trustworty Computing my ass...
It runs a StrongARM chipset and runs linux for $210? Many newer palms sell for about 300-400 bucks. That thing better come stateside. Unfortunately, it doesn't say whether it will have a hard drive. It looks like its big enough to have one.
"please dont give me any of your fair-use bullshit arguments"
so...you would rather be the RIAA's bitch??? I don't agree with the popular p2p programs, but to say that fair-use arguments are bullshit...see where we're at about a year from now. If all goes according to how the RIAA and MPAA want to control what WE pay for, you'll be wanting to hear many, many more of those arguments.
Tell them to think about how much it will cost to replace or retrofit ALL computers in Florida to comply with this one-sided law. Tell them that if this passes, most likely no one will buy any new electronics for a long while practically destroying an industry that (I think) thrives on impulse buying. If all else fails, say that this is a power grab from the entertainment industries to gain too much control over what the people of Florida pay for. Hopefully they'll take that into consideration and see how bad this law is for everyone.
Now Sony wants us to buy this CD and restrict where we can listen to it and if we try to listen on our computers, it will crash it? Ha...ha...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Have they gone stupid or something? Doing this will not only harm the "Music industry" (aka the RIAA), but whenever I (and possibly many more) think of Celine Dion from now on, we will also think of the infamous "BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!!!!!"
I have to agree. Look at Microsoft and their.NET initiative. They're trying to move into the services and authentication industries beofre their OS becomes to exepnsive to market because of the falling price of computers. The internet is erasing some of the need for digial stuff to be placed on CD or any media. But we can't put many things on the internet such as games and commercial software because of their size and a lack of bandwidth. I can see many who would be opposed to this and attempt to hold in a artificial supply and demand information economy, which will drag us down.
I think that Nationwide is a good idea, but it might be a better idea to run local ads to "test the waters" and see how people react to a computer being neutered. So if the ad doesn't work too well, redesign it and save yourself a few thousand dollars.
"From an engineering standpoint, No. 1, we cannot remove software code for multiple functionalities without degrading other functionalities of the operating system"
Which is why they're in court. It can be done, they just don't want to admit it. If anything it should make Windows faster (IE > 20 MB RAM, Opera 10 MB RAM).
"Furthermore, the company said customer support could be prohibitively expensive because experts would have to be knowledgeable about as many as 4,000 different Windows configurations."
WTF? Point and click is universal among every version of Windows. Always will be. You would think they might find some way to develop 4,000 versions of point and click (laughing nervously...). Linux has more than 4,000 different versions out there if we go by M$ terms (plugins are part of the OS). What solved their problems? $, # and many universal commands.
The core system will still be there. It's stupid when they think that just because the installer will have a choice (there's that much hated word in the monopolistic world today) for used plugins that Windows will be crippled beyond repair. No it wont. My win2K box isn't crippled because I use Opera, Winamp and the DivX Playa. If anything it's faster and more "robust" because I don't use MS middleware. Just because it isn't tied into some browser and isn't usable from a sidebar doesn't mean it's going to slow you down.
It just means that MS gets less marketing info from me because WMP8 doesn't phone home.:)
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Victim (9 states) sure! let me just holster my gun that I could have killed you with!
I don't think that was a good move. They had evidence that could have possibly proven Bill G. lied in court and that Windows could be made modular. Any attack would have been better than no attack at all.
"And will anyone buy a stripped-down version of Windows?"
:)
I wouldn't but for anyone who is hopelessly stuck to the Winopoly, i would recommend it if it does a better job.
"Is this hacked, pseudo-embedded system really going to do its job any better than Windows XP does right now?"
I would hope so. Since it's designed to run on not-so-computers, it should run a bit faster on a P4 1.7gHz. At least one would think so since it's modular. Hope there's a "phone home" package to disable.
Ok...so we can't kill, steal or what have you in real life. Completely understandable. But to make a law to stop it in a place where it causes no harm to anyone, is a waste of time and my tax dollars. We shouldn't make any excuses for bad parenting. Just putting laws like this on video games keeps it out of the hands of minors which can tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Thereby creating more "criminals" and boosting the tax base because of the imposed fines for breaking this law.
"The nature of the oppression seems not be be precisely the same, depending on which side of the pond you're on. In the UK you just count up the total number of eligible (i.e. compulsory, according to the redefinition of the word) machines, pay your dues then you get the following: "Microsoft Office Standard and Professional Editions (for Windows and Macintosh) Works Standard Windows Upgrade Core Client Access Licence Encarta Reference Suite and Encarta Online Visual Studio Professional Microsoft Press Office Starts Here Step by Step Interactive" So instead of paying for Windows itself, you're paying for the right to have a computer according to microsoft...what utter BS. I still don't see how they can get away with this. Anyhoo, click here for some good laughs.
All they have to do is reverse Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad and all free speech problems such as this are solved! As long as corporations are counted as people and make lies about various things in public (sweatshops for example), free speech rights will always be in jeopardy. 1st amendment rights aren't something that should be used as a convenient defence against lying in public.
Where can I get these? I haven't seen them in the places i' ve looked?
I really don't see why they didn't. They already had their hands in the Dreamcast with WinCE and IE for web surfing. But, if the X-box was in development at the time of Sega's leaving the console market, that would have conflicted with their PR stance. To hear of a new console from them right after they bought Sega out would have a few people thinking that it was nothing but a rehash of the dreamcast with microsoft logos and a big green X on it.
I think somebody (mabye us) should all make copies of linux that can run off of CDs and give them out to random people. That way they can try it out, and if they don't like it, take it out and reboot.
I think it's a BS term.
"There is no clear dividing line between where a particular block of "middleware" ends and the rest of the operating system begins," Gates said.
Explorer's binding to the operating system was a mistake. Binding WMP8 to the operating system was a bigger mistake. Hell, I think binding any programs to the operating system is a mistake. Just because if it fails, the OS goes down with it. I believe the operating system begins where the human sees nothing. "Software" comes in for human interaction. Explorer, KDE Gnome, Litestep, Winamp, WMP8, all software. Releasing a modular version of Windows might actually be a good thing. That means that programs wouldn't be so much "tied" into the system like WMP8 and Explorer, and might actually *fix* the blue screen problem, instead of crippling the system like BG cries about.
"Today [...] the marketplace rewards low quality. More precisely, it rewards early releases at the expense of almost all quality."
Was he thinking of Windows XP when he wrote this?
Anyhoo, I agree with him about the ineffective airline security measures after September 11. If someone wanted to get on a plane and run it into some building, soldiers in terminals and having guards check for tickets at the gate won't stop them. If they really felt like doing so, I don't think spending the $200-whatever for a ticket is going to deter them. I think it's just there for looks. (they confiscate nail clippers for crying out loud)
Thank goodness for the Dallas Autobah...North Tollway.
I don't think we should put too much trust into this guy. He tried to hand everyone's computers on a silver platter to the entertainment industry, and if this does pass, he could end up using it as a "you owe us" kind of thing.
If this does go through, does that mean that government webites will only accept IE as a browser? I can see why they would. Just exploit one of the many bugs and you're in. Who needs Magic Lantern when MS will take care of it for them?
Why not? LAN parties with no ethernet cable nests and next to zero lag! :)
Is everyone just itching to destroy the first amendment? Seriously, Google and the German Court, Google and church of Scientology, Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act...
Damn...
Anyhoo, why don't they just make a HTML tag and ask them to place it in all porn pages and fix browsers with an option to use it. No court or congress time wasted, and kids won't have to deal with porn pop-ups.
You meet this really good looking girl(guy), and you take them up to your apartment in Times Square. Things begin to get a little steamy with the red Coca-Cola billboard in the background. Just when things are about to get started, they say...
THIS IS AN UNAUTHORIZED DREAM SEQUENCE WITH UNAUTHORIZED ADVERTISING CHANGES. YOU WILL NOW BE INTESTINATED.
AAAAIIIIGGHH!!!!!
Seriously, when companies begin to try to control your imagination for marketing purposes, you know something is messed up. They didn't give any money to help with the production of the film, so they really don't deserve jack sh*t.
WinXP can't be made modular! Boo hoo!! STFU. The evidence that WinXP is modular was right in front of their faces and it's about time that they were called on it. Trustworty Computing my ass...
It runs a StrongARM chipset and runs linux for $210? Many newer palms sell for about 300-400 bucks. That thing better come stateside. Unfortunately, it doesn't say whether it will have a hard drive. It looks like its big enough to have one.
"please dont give me any of your fair-use bullshit arguments"
so...you would rather be the RIAA's bitch??? I don't agree with the popular p2p programs, but to say that fair-use arguments are bullshit...see where we're at about a year from now. If all goes according to how the RIAA and MPAA want to control what WE pay for, you'll be wanting to hear many, many more of those arguments.
Tell them to think about how much it will cost to replace or retrofit ALL computers in Florida to comply with this one-sided law. Tell them that if this passes, most likely no one will buy any new electronics for a long while practically destroying an industry that (I think) thrives on impulse buying. If all else fails, say that this is a power grab from the entertainment industries to gain too much control over what the people of Florida pay for. Hopefully they'll take that into consideration and see how bad this law is for everyone.
But many of the songs played on the air are cut up and sped up for advertising purposes. In the Dallas area,it's really noticeable on 100.3 FM.
Now Sony wants us to buy this CD and restrict where we can listen to it and if we try to listen on our computers, it will crash it? Ha...ha...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Have they gone stupid or something? Doing this will not only harm the "Music industry" (aka the RIAA), but whenever I (and possibly many more) think of Celine Dion from now on, we will also think of the infamous "BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!!!!!"
I have to agree. Look at Microsoft and their .NET initiative. They're trying to move into the services and authentication industries beofre their OS becomes to exepnsive to market because of the falling price of computers. The internet is erasing some of the need for digial stuff to be placed on CD or any media. But we can't put many things on the internet such as games and commercial software because of their size and a lack of bandwidth. I can see many who would be opposed to this and attempt to hold in a artificial supply and demand information economy, which will drag us down.
I think that Nationwide is a good idea, but it might be a better idea to run local ads to "test the waters" and see how people react to a computer being neutered. So if the ad doesn't work too well, redesign it and save yourself a few thousand dollars.
"From an engineering standpoint, No. 1, we cannot remove software code for multiple functionalities without degrading other functionalities of the operating system"
:)
Which is why they're in court. It can be done, they just don't want to admit it. If anything it should make Windows faster (IE > 20 MB RAM, Opera 10 MB RAM).
"Furthermore, the company said customer support could be prohibitively expensive because experts would have to be knowledgeable about as many as 4,000 different Windows configurations."
WTF? Point and click is universal among every version of Windows. Always will be. You would think they might find some way to develop 4,000 versions of point and click (laughing nervously...). Linux has more than 4,000 different versions out there if we go by M$ terms (plugins are part of the OS). What solved their problems? $, # and many universal commands.
The core system will still be there. It's stupid when they think that just because the installer will have a choice (there's that much hated word in the monopolistic world today) for used plugins that Windows will be crippled beyond repair. No it wont. My win2K box isn't crippled because I use Opera, Winamp and the DivX Playa. If anything it's faster and more "robust" because I don't use MS middleware. Just because it isn't tied into some browser and isn't usable from a sidebar doesn't mean it's going to slow you down.
It just means that MS gets less marketing info from me because WMP8 doesn't phone home.