I encounter it every time I have a question, whether or not I've "RTFM" as I'm usually greeted with.
It's also the matter of being associated with a group of people who have shown themselves to be arrogant, condescending, rude, inconsiderate, and otherwise boorish in their conduct. It's not all of them but it sure is the loudest.
This is why my latest experiment has been done with FreeBSD.
I can get Thunderbird on windows with no additional effort (IE just the installer.) For kmail I have to step through loading the POS that is Cygwin, load KDE, then load kmail and hope nothing fucks up on the way down.
If not for the fact that Cygwin is mind-stabbingly horrible.
If you want a *nix console, get a *nix machine and have it running headless. The only true way to get a good CLI is one that was designed for one at its base (Linux, BSD, MacOS X.)
Surely you don't believe the tripe you just parroted in line 7.
The RIAA does not care about alternate methods of distribution. They care that people are distributing copyrighted works that their member companies own without permission.
They could give a fuck less if a bunch of indie artists do it over the internet. Because they know at the rate things are going, all those indie groups are small and will stay small because the RIAA has money and can afford widespread promotion.
Both you, and I suspect many Slashdotters as well, are paranoid fools who are just annoyed that the RIAA is protecting their members' works and that your small indie bands that you think are so great cause they're so little known.
If so, then by the RIAAs logic I become a criminal the instant I share that folder on the Internet.
Exactly. As soon as you make it available to others, you are responsible for the copies that leave your machine. You have no right to make available copies to people, since you don't have the right to redistribute the recordings. The RIAA is not wrong here. Foolish in their methods, yes, but not wrong.
But if we extend that line of reasoning, why not prosecute a library for copyright infringement? After all, they are willfully leaving all those books lying around where any number of Joes could come in and photocopy them.
And here's where the slashbots get it wrong time and time again. Sitting at a Xerox machine and copying a book, page for page, is wholly infeasable. Hopping on P2P and grabbing an entire album in sufficiently-close-to-CD-quality format is.
The scale of the violation is much higher when you're snagging entire albums/games/movies free online than when you go to a library and photocopy yourself a few pages out of a couple books (which is a perfect example of Fair Use.) I'd say the closest you get with books, is bookwarez.
I've run XP for over a year and every once in a while, just for kicks, I install AVG and AdAware.
Last time I ran AdAware 6 with the latest definitions, out of 90000+ items scanned, it found ONE registry key.
And AVG has not once turned up an infection of any kind.
So I ask the other windows users, what the hell are you doing to require this. And I ask all the self-righteous linux users to kindly keep your smart-ass comments to yourselves:)
It's just the nice hostile reception most learners recieve when trying to figure things out. This is caused because people have the same problems over and over again, and have to start building their system from the ground up even on reasonably complete distros like Mandrake.
And Knoppix is a demonstration. Do not present it as being how Linux actually is.
The Japanese have a far higher density of people to which they can sell stuff.
This allows for riskier ventures to pay off more often. As a result they often get cool hardware before the rest of the world (if the rest of the world gets it at all) and more diverse game types can show up.
Sure, the more common designs are more popular, but there's no lack of creativity in both game designs and playstyles.
And you, sir, can shell out $50 for a copy of "Stick up your Ass (Platinum Edition)."
What you talk about is people, probably like yourself, who cast their opinions on people (vocally) based on what they play. Sadly, you and people like you are full of shit.
Tokimeki Memorial and Sentimental Grafitti are more like your "Never Been Laid: 2003" than Sakura Wars is. Never played those but then I don't care to.
Sakura wars plays out more like an anime than a relationship sim. Unforunately people like you short circuit the thinking process and judge the game without experience (I think they call that predjudice, you might be familiar with the concept.)
This is another reason creativity and diversity in games is stunted in the US and Europe. People simply refuse to consider things outside your average blood and guts action games, RPGs, Sports, Racing, and Puzzle games.
As we speak I'm playing "Sakura Taisen Monogatari: Mysterious Paris," which is an adventure game based off the long-popular "Sakura Taisen" series (known in the states as "Sakura Wars").
The series only ever made it outside of Japan in its animated forms, but has had 5 games in its core continuity, 2 ports, 1 rewrite, and many spin-off games/non-game discs.
Personally it's been one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had (playing through Sakura Wars 1-3, 4 was iffy.) The only problem is the core of the game isn't action. It's a combination of "relationship sim" where you take the main character Ohgami Ichirou and make decisions for him that lead him to gain/lose favor with the girls on his team. And to punctuate the episodes (since it plays like a 13-14 OAV Anime) there are turn based strategy segments. A simple game really but the story and characters are terribly fun.
Rumors were made in 2002 and 2003 of a US release of "Atsuki Chishio ni" the PS2 rewrite of the first game (total rewrite using the new LIPS decision-making system and the ARMS combat system.) This has, however, proven mostly fruitless as far fewer people would likely take to the relationship-sim part of the game. But we won't know for sure. They won't take the risk of doing a release.
So games suffer from, IMO, two problems:
1.) Gamers in America (and possibly Europe) have tragically limited tastes in the kinds of games they would like to play.
2.) The companies are too afraid of losing a chunk of change on a release that could quite easily bomb.
Actually, we don't really give a crap about what you want. You're mostly cluebies who shouldn't have a say in the matter, and the cause of most of these problems. You're the ones who use the vulnerable software, and click on things because they tell you to. (Remember, one of the last worms was purely a trojan---the user had to do all the work.)
You should use Linux (or OSX, or whatever), because we tell you to, and we know what we're talking about. You're causing problems that affect a lot of people (the networks get saturated), and you need to stop.
Oh god shut up, shut up, shut the FUCK UP.
*cough*
Excuse me, but you can shove that condescending know-it-all attitude straight up your ass.
I use Windows because the overall experience, at least for Desktop use, has been better. Stuff actually works the way I expect it to. I plug in a firewire hard disk, it installs and loads drivers, and the partitions, if any, appear. Instantly. No going to linux1394.org, downloading a shell script, and hoping it works. I click a torrent in mozilla, or Explorer, or whatever, and it loads my Bittorrent client automatically. More recent distros are better, but you won't win anyone over with that attitude.
Last time I had reliability problems with windows, the hard disk was failing. But since I fixed that problem (which not even Linux is immune to) I've had ZERO problems booting. And to be honest, I haven't had any security problems.
Whoa, you think I'm lying, right?
No, I'm not. In the time I've been running 2K and XP, not once have I had:
A Trojan
A Worm
Spyware
Malware
of any sort have any sort of presence on my machine.
Granted, I run Mozilla, Apache (with a secured user-account of its own,) instead of the usual windows implements. Sometimes the opensource community does create stuff that truly JUST WORKS. At least they're smart enough to not get arrogant about it.
But for kicks I run without a firewall and as an administrator 100% of the time. Still waiting for all the problems you describe.
So, kindly, pull that stick out of your ass. Thank you.
You and all the other linux geeks can stop stuffing it in everyone's face. Don't claim something's better than windows until your OS does everything windows does and does it better.
I see this argument all the time and it doesn't make sense. Half of the linux community wants it to succeed and the other half insists that it's "by geeks and for geeks" and never want to see it expand.
So what's it going to be? Until $distro can use linux behind the scenes and beat Windows at its own game, linux will not take the desktop.
And it'll likely because people like you and the parent post held it back, to keep it "by geeks and for geeks."
You lose. This alone is why linux is not ready for the desktop. The OS doesn't set anything itself, you have to do handholding all the way from plugging it in.
Windows has it right here. Plug it in, make the OS do the work. Few clicks, you're done. Here you've got to do two nice long console commands, including knowing proper command line options for "foomatic-datafile" which is sad.
The additional freedom gained by losing the ability to just plug it in (which is what plug-and-play is all about) is trivial. Besides, it COULD be implemented in *nix properly but I guess they don't want to because it "restricts freedom" in ways I obviously don't see.
Because these things need to be developed and tested before the 1.0 release.
Making sure things are ready to go before the final release is the reason for betas. Better to have a problem in migration tested for and found out now rather than months from now, as it's destroying users e-mail archives.
What they need is to include a check for an existing Mozilla installation and offer to run a migration tool, with some interactivity in case some options need user-triage. This goes for thunderbird as well.
I had no end of trouble trying to migrate to Thunderbird and Firebird^C^C^C^Cfox, and when I did get there, the migration left so many little flaws and fuckups in the programs (like I download a.torrent and no matter what the OK button is disabled.) that I just moved back to mozilla 1.6. What a BREEZE that was!
So, in summary, if they're going to replace the suite with a pair of seperate programs, they need to:
a) offer a "suite package" that includes both programs and b) make sure that all 3 installers (which both apps need, especially on windows) include a proper migration tool. I will not leave the Moz suite until this is done.
So use Bittorrent. Does a damn fine job. Or grab it from your friends FTP. Or hell, contact one of the various companies out there that'll send you a cheap CD-R copy for $smallnum.00
Linux has substantial legal usage.
A VCR has substantial legal usage.
In many areas, lockpicking tools don't. Thus you have to be licensed. In others, slimjims are banned entirely. Sure both have legal uses (unlocking things you own,) but people found that their main use tended to be theft (picking other peoples locks to take their valuables/cars,) which is why the above happened.
I'm personally of the opinion that the P2P networks are simply a slimjim for copyrighted works. You can trade files P2P using FTP, HTTP, and IRC (even bittorrent) all of which have very substantial non-infringing uses.
Sure you can't easily find the latest warez, mp3s, DVD rips and cracked games, but hey, isn't that what all this is about?
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It's a fine reason.
I encounter it every time I have a question, whether or not I've "RTFM" as I'm usually greeted with.
It's also the matter of being associated with a group of people who have shown themselves to be arrogant, condescending, rude, inconsiderate, and otherwise boorish in their conduct. It's not all of them but it sure is the loudest.
This is why my latest experiment has been done with FreeBSD.
Arrogance like this is one major reason I stay away from *nix based OSes.
Check that attitude at the door and you may find the rest of the world more welcoming.
Thunderbird is built for windows. It requires no more than is available with the base windows install.
KMail on windows requires building a Cygwin install that may or may not NOT work at some point (I've had cygwin fail more often than not.)
So until I can run an installer and get KMail on windows, it's not built for windows.
No, that's a build for Cygwin.
I can get Thunderbird on windows with no additional effort (IE just the installer.) For kmail I have to step through loading the POS that is Cygwin, load KDE, then load kmail and hope nothing fucks up on the way down.
Of course, those of us that run windows and patch regularly say this:
"shove it up your ass!"
Except that he's going to pull out, and none of the projects you mention will ever see any funding.
Shrub's decision not to waste money on the ISS may not be wrong, but nothing else he'll do with the money we save will be right.
If not for the fact that Cygwin is mind-stabbingly horrible.
If you want a *nix console, get a *nix machine and have it running headless. The only true way to get a good CLI is one that was designed for one at its base (Linux, BSD, MacOS X.)
Surely you don't believe the tripe you just parroted in line 7.
The RIAA does not care about alternate methods of distribution. They care that people are distributing copyrighted works that their member companies own without permission.
They could give a fuck less if a bunch of indie artists do it over the internet. Because they know at the rate things are going, all those indie groups are small and will stay small because the RIAA has money and can afford widespread promotion.
Both you, and I suspect many Slashdotters as well, are paranoid fools who are just annoyed that the RIAA is protecting their members' works and that your small indie bands that you think are so great cause they're so little known.
If so, then by the RIAAs logic I become a criminal the instant I share that folder on the Internet.
Exactly. As soon as you make it available to others, you are responsible for the copies that leave your machine. You have no right to make available copies to people, since you don't have the right to redistribute the recordings. The RIAA is not wrong here. Foolish in their methods, yes, but not wrong.
But if we extend that line of reasoning, why not prosecute a library for copyright infringement? After all, they are willfully leaving all those books lying around where any number of Joes could come in and photocopy them.
And here's where the slashbots get it wrong time and time again. Sitting at a Xerox machine and copying a book, page for page, is wholly infeasable. Hopping on P2P and grabbing an entire album in sufficiently-close-to-CD-quality format is.
The scale of the violation is much higher when you're snagging entire albums/games/movies free online than when you go to a library and photocopy yourself a few pages out of a couple books (which is a perfect example of Fair Use.) I'd say the closest you get with books, is bookwarez.
Because they're paranoid.
:)
I've run XP for over a year and every once in a while, just for kicks, I install AVG and AdAware.
Last time I ran AdAware 6 with the latest definitions, out of 90000+ items scanned, it found ONE registry key.
And AVG has not once turned up an infection of any kind.
So I ask the other windows users, what the hell are you doing to require this. And I ask all the self-righteous linux users to kindly keep your smart-ass comments to yourselves
Thanks for teaching your kid to be condescending and insulting.
Linux isn't hard.
It's just the nice hostile reception most learners recieve when trying to figure things out. This is caused because people have the same problems over and over again, and have to start building their system from the ground up even on reasonably complete distros like Mandrake.
And Knoppix is a demonstration. Do not present it as being how Linux actually is.
Japanese rape simulator like the one you mentioned
I'm sorry but I can no longer consider anything you say as having any meaning, since you display your ignorance so brazenly in how you speak.
No, not a furry.
Please tell me, do you have a long, wooden object protruding from your ass?
If so you may want to pull it out and save the rest of the world from your attitude.
The Japanese have a far higher density of people to which they can sell stuff.
This allows for riskier ventures to pay off more often. As a result they often get cool hardware before the rest of the world (if the rest of the world gets it at all) and more diverse game types can show up.
Sure, the more common designs are more popular, but there's no lack of creativity in both game designs and playstyles.
And you, sir, can shell out $50 for a copy of "Stick up your Ass (Platinum Edition)."
What you talk about is people, probably like yourself, who cast their opinions on people (vocally) based on what they play. Sadly, you and people like you are full of shit.
Tokimeki Memorial and Sentimental Grafitti are more like your "Never Been Laid: 2003" than Sakura Wars is. Never played those but then I don't care to.
Sakura wars plays out more like an anime than a relationship sim. Unforunately people like you short circuit the thinking process and judge the game without experience (I think they call that predjudice, you might be familiar with the concept.)
This is another reason creativity and diversity in games is stunted in the US and Europe. People simply refuse to consider things outside your average blood and guts action games, RPGs, Sports, Racing, and Puzzle games.
As we speak I'm playing "Sakura Taisen Monogatari: Mysterious Paris," which is an adventure game based off the long-popular "Sakura Taisen" series (known in the states as "Sakura Wars").
The series only ever made it outside of Japan in its animated forms, but has had 5 games in its core continuity, 2 ports, 1 rewrite, and many spin-off games/non-game discs.
Personally it's been one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had (playing through Sakura Wars 1-3, 4 was iffy.) The only problem is the core of the game isn't action. It's a combination of "relationship sim" where you take the main character Ohgami Ichirou and make decisions for him that lead him to gain/lose favor with the girls on his team. And to punctuate the episodes (since it plays like a 13-14 OAV Anime) there are turn based strategy segments. A simple game really but the story and characters are terribly fun.
Rumors were made in 2002 and 2003 of a US release of "Atsuki Chishio ni" the PS2 rewrite of the first game (total rewrite using the new LIPS decision-making system and the ARMS combat system.) This has, however, proven mostly fruitless as far fewer people would likely take to the relationship-sim part of the game. But we won't know for sure. They won't take the risk of doing a release.
So games suffer from, IMO, two problems:
1.) Gamers in America (and possibly Europe) have tragically limited tastes in the kinds of games they would like to play.
2.) The companies are too afraid of losing a chunk of change on a release that could quite easily bomb.
Actually, we don't really give a crap about what you want. You're mostly cluebies who shouldn't have a say in the matter, and the cause of most of these problems. You're the ones who use the vulnerable software, and click on things because they tell you to. (Remember, one of the last worms was purely a trojan---the user had to do all the work.)
You should use Linux (or OSX, or whatever), because we tell you to, and we know what we're talking about. You're causing problems that affect a lot of people (the networks get saturated), and you need to stop.
Oh god shut up, shut up, shut the FUCK UP.
*cough*
Excuse me, but you can shove that condescending know-it-all attitude straight up your ass.
I use Windows because the overall experience, at least for Desktop use, has been better. Stuff actually works the way I expect it to. I plug in a firewire hard disk, it installs and loads drivers, and the partitions, if any, appear. Instantly. No going to linux1394.org, downloading a shell script, and hoping it works. I click a torrent in mozilla, or Explorer, or whatever, and it loads my Bittorrent client automatically. More recent distros are better, but you won't win anyone over with that attitude.
Last time I had reliability problems with windows, the hard disk was failing. But since I fixed that problem (which not even Linux is immune to) I've had ZERO problems booting. And to be honest, I haven't had any security problems.
Whoa, you think I'm lying, right?
No, I'm not. In the time I've been running 2K and XP, not once have I had:
A Trojan
A Worm
Spyware
Malware
of any sort have any sort of presence on my machine.
Granted, I run Mozilla, Apache (with a secured user-account of its own,) instead of the usual windows implements. Sometimes the opensource community does create stuff that truly JUST WORKS. At least they're smart enough to not get arrogant about it.
But for kicks I run without a firewall and as an administrator 100% of the time. Still waiting for all the problems you describe.
So, kindly, pull that stick out of your ass. Thank you.
I imagine they could stick everything for the PS2 in there somehow, give it some meaningful purpose.
The PS1 could probably be emulated entirely in software I imagine, if the PS3 is as powerful as they hope it will be.
Fine then.
You and all the other linux geeks can stop stuffing it in everyone's face. Don't claim something's better than windows until your OS does everything windows does and does it better.
I see this argument all the time and it doesn't make sense. Half of the linux community wants it to succeed and the other half insists that it's "by geeks and for geeks" and never want to see it expand.
So what's it going to be? Until $distro can use linux behind the scenes and beat Windows at its own game, linux will not take the desktop.
And it'll likely because people like you and the parent post held it back, to keep it "by geeks and for geeks."
You lose. This alone is why linux is not ready for the desktop. The OS doesn't set anything itself, you have to do handholding all the way from plugging it in.
Windows has it right here. Plug it in, make the OS do the work. Few clicks, you're done. Here you've got to do two nice long console commands, including knowing proper command line options for "foomatic-datafile" which is sad.
The additional freedom gained by losing the ability to just plug it in (which is what plug-and-play is all about) is trivial. Besides, it COULD be implemented in *nix properly but I guess they don't want to because it "restricts freedom" in ways I obviously don't see.
It spread but kept killing it's complementary worms MyDaikatana.b and .c in the process with MyDaikatakana.d and .e constantly attacking.
It's not that no one noticed, it's that it was so braindead it killed itself!
Because these things need to be developed and tested before the 1.0 release.
Making sure things are ready to go before the final release is the reason for betas. Better to have a problem in migration tested for and found out now rather than months from now, as it's destroying users e-mail archives.
What they need is to include a check for an existing Mozilla installation and offer to run a migration tool, with some interactivity in case some options need user-triage. This goes for thunderbird as well.
.torrent and no matter what the OK button is disabled.) that I just moved back to mozilla 1.6. What a BREEZE that was!
I had no end of trouble trying to migrate to Thunderbird and Firebird^C^C^C^Cfox, and when I did get there, the migration left so many little flaws and fuckups in the programs (like I download a
So, in summary, if they're going to replace the suite with a pair of seperate programs, they need to:
a) offer a "suite package" that includes both programs and
b) make sure that all 3 installers (which both apps need, especially on windows) include a proper migration tool. I will not leave the Moz suite until this is done.
So use Bittorrent. Does a damn fine job. Or grab it from your friends FTP. Or hell, contact one of the various companies out there that'll send you a cheap CD-R copy for $smallnum.00
Linux has substantial legal usage.
A VCR has substantial legal usage.
In many areas, lockpicking tools don't. Thus you have to be licensed. In others, slimjims are banned entirely. Sure both have legal uses (unlocking things you own,) but people found that their main use tended to be theft (picking other peoples locks to take their valuables/cars,) which is why the above happened.
I'm personally of the opinion that the P2P networks are simply a slimjim for copyrighted works. You can trade files P2P using FTP, HTTP, and IRC (even bittorrent) all of which have very substantial non-infringing uses.
Sure you can't easily find the latest warez, mp3s, DVD rips and cracked games, but hey, isn't that what all this is about?