following the Seamonkey/Thunderbird/Firefox theme (element, animal), is it time to add one well known outlook feature? Ladies and gentlemen: Earthworm.
maybe more inciteful than insightful on my part. I think that the main reason is that I actually like the kitchen sink approach of Evolution, because it's convenient to have that higher level of integration between the email & PIM facets.
on the flip side, I think that firebird is great because i don't need the complete works that mozilla provides when it comes to web browsing. don't need email integrated, don't need web design integrated, don't need chatzilla.
usual caveats: not for everyone, based on my own particular needs yadda yadda
The problem is that the issue of proportionality is only focussing on what they're doing in the legal domain.
But, as Larry Lessig has stressed, there is more than one way to skin a cat: the problem is that the RIAA is using these means AND using spoofing to pollute the P2P networks. In Lessig's terms, they're using the architecture of the network and the law.
That in itself should be taken into consideration by judges in whether or not they decide that the defence is proportionate. In the legal conception of proportionality the means should tally with the end. in this instance, the means, taken together, currently go way beyond that.
Well, the thing is that that's probably quite acceptable to the RIAA - it just takes things back to the era of tape, albeit without the lossiness. The coordination costs (opportunity costs of time, finding the appropriate individuals), time delays, and damned inconvenience start to make buying the CD look less costly.
it's unlike P2P ultimately because you don't know your co-sharer solely on the basis of a track that they have: they're your friends. Serendipity and chance are much larger factors in the equation, still, meaning that the costs of getting that mp3 that you are looking for are, on average, still higher.
I would argue that a little bit of piracy does grease the wheels of music sales, and that whilst the RIAA know this, they can never admit it. The problem for them with P2P is that it reduced the inconvenience just that little bit too much.
If you told me your TV was a Magnetbox and I had a Sorny what difference does it make when you're sitting around the water cooler talking about the Simpsons?
I can see where you're coming from. But to extend and elucidate your metaphor, the difference between your TV and mine would be that
mine doesn't freeze up in the middle of a favourite show quite so much
mine doesn't go around my house and leave doors and windows open (security holes);
mine doesn't post billboards all over the living room.
it's easier to clean up the cookie crumbs after a night's viewing with my TV
To be honest, I can't see how the RIAA is acting wrongly in this instance.
But if they're allowed this solution, they shouldn't be allowed legal redress as well, or their response would be disproportionate. I would hope that the courts would and will recognise this in their considerations.
But seriously, I can't see how this does anything other than shift the rules of the game back to the way they were: copying between friends was fine (and will still be better - and faster - than it was in the cassette days), but the wanton copying between people who have neither met nor would care to will decrease as the costs of copying in terms of time and effort increase.
Torrentspy (Win32) is another useful tool that shows various statistics about your transfers, including which files of a multi-file torrent are complete.
See, guys, there's always spyware in this P2P stuff;-)
Slashdot Mirror
Portman......grits.....orders to ....tidy up.... TOO M..U..C...H...
... a Beowulf cluster of these things?
... wear sunscreen. etc.
Why doesn't the Iraqi government just use .gov? I mean, let's be realistic here...
Cato? Not now....
troll.
there's a famous legal case on this, where ASDA Walmart renamed their clone of the popular Penguin biscuit "Puffin" Judge called it as too close.
following the Seamonkey/Thunderbird/Firefox theme (element, animal), is it time to add one well known outlook feature? Ladies and gentlemen: Earthworm.
firefox. thunderbird. seamonkey. apparent trend.
You're sure about that?
The "reverse slashdot" effect: too many articles to read through equals /.ers momentarily dazzled.
Looking forward to the RT5FA statements.
every year or so, a true gem of a comment comes along. That was one. Brilliant.
maybe more inciteful than insightful on my part. I think that the main reason is that I actually like the kitchen sink approach of Evolution, because it's convenient to have that higher level of integration between the email & PIM facets.
on the flip side, I think that firebird is great because i don't need the complete works that mozilla provides when it comes to web browsing. don't need email integrated, don't need web design integrated, don't need chatzilla.
usual caveats: not for everyone, based on my own particular needs yadda yadda
I use OSS on XP while I ready myself for the eventual switch. But, much as I like T-bird, I would only use evolution on linux.
Surely that should be a Lin-Lin model? oh, ho ho. Jeez, I crack myself up.
But, as Larry Lessig has stressed, there is more than one way to skin a cat: the problem is that the RIAA is using these means AND using spoofing to pollute the P2P networks. In Lessig's terms, they're using the architecture of the network and the law.
That in itself should be taken into consideration by judges in whether or not they decide that the defence is proportionate. In the legal conception of proportionality the means should tally with the end. in this instance, the means, taken together, currently go way beyond that.
it's unlike P2P ultimately because you don't know your co-sharer solely on the basis of a track that they have: they're your friends. Serendipity and chance are much larger factors in the equation, still, meaning that the costs of getting that mp3 that you are looking for are, on average, still higher.
I would argue that a little bit of piracy does grease the wheels of music sales, and that whilst the RIAA know this, they can never admit it. The problem for them with P2P is that it reduced the inconvenience just that little bit too much.
yeah - just logged in to eat humble pie on that one, looks like you beat me to it.
I can see where you're coming from. But to extend and elucidate your metaphor, the difference between your TV and mine would be that
but one can also ask.... would anyone here own up to using IE?
...well, it's at +4 now, so somebody has something to hide :)
But if they're allowed this solution, they shouldn't be allowed legal redress as well, or their response would be disproportionate. I would hope that the courts would and will recognise this in their considerations.
But seriously, I can't see how this does anything other than shift the rules of the game back to the way they were: copying between friends was fine (and will still be better - and faster - than it was in the cassette days), but the wanton copying between people who have neither met nor would care to will decrease as the costs of copying in terms of time and effort increase.
I know this always gets brought up - but wouldn't it be useful for OOo to a similar thing?
See, guys, there's always spyware in this P2P stuff ;-)
You wouldnt like them when theyre angry.