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Microsoft Research Showcase Explored

prostoalex writes "Every year Microsoft Research scientists show their achievements and developments at Redmond campus. Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports from Techfest, a number of other news resources and blogs are covering it. Read about network-enabled bear that allows parents to communicate with the kids, a mobile phone applications that not only checks, but predicts traffic conditions, and surface computing for digital homes." From the article: "The project isn't fully developed, but the ultimate vision is to have the stuffed animal interact with a child, doing such things as playing games and reading stories. Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera."

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  1. A number of other news resources and blogs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You mean like Slashdot?

    Zonk, do you even read Slashdot? Or just when you cash the paycheck?

  2. Coolest stuff not mentioned... by moofdaddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    A friend of mine who works on the redmond campus we telling me about one of the neatest things that they were showing off which seemed to get less attention from the media and others then the rest of the products. These were more pure concept items, things that were not really going to be marketed any time soon but wanted to show off where microsoft was heading. These were networked enabled appliances. While other companies have showed these off before this was the most comphrensive I had heard of.

    Among the products included a microwave, fridge, coffee maker, toaster, dishwater and washer drier. These all tied into a control panel which could be accessed from a household computer which showed the status of each item. So if you had a load of laundry going you could see how much longer it had till it was completed. Or you could set the intensity of your toaster, etc. The neatest was the implimentation of RFID with the fridge. Using RFID tags which they believe will be on all products in the next 5 - 10 years you can look up exactly what products are left and get a full inventory. You can also set up triggers which will text your phone, send you an email, or something of that nature which will tell when something is empty or near empty.

    It appears that Redmond is looking at taking over not just your computer some day but your life as well.

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    1. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by n1ywb · · Score: 1, Interesting
      THere's a network enabled fridge at The Samsung Experience in NYC. It's pretty cool actually.

      Anyway, who really belives that this is where MS is headed? It's laughable when after all these years they still can't even get Windows right.

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    2. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by ShyGuy91284 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That all sounds great... To your average slashdotter who spends almost all waking hours in front of the computer.... But what about the normal people who know there is life beyond the computer? Isn't it easier for them to check things manually?

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    3. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by moofdaddy · · Score: 1

      Depends, what if they are at work? What if they have a big house?

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    4. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by tristian_was_here · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      I wonder if such things would be used by pedofiles?

    5. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by idlake · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Among the products included a microwave, fridge, coffee maker, toaster, dishwater and washer drier. These all tied into a control panel which could be accessed from a household computer which showed the status of each item.

      Lots of companies are working on that. The thought that it is all run by software from a single company is scary. It would be even scarier if that company were Microsoft, given their track record on reliability, safety, and security.

      The neatest was the implimentation of RFID with the fridge. Using RFID tags which they believe will be on all products in the next 5 - 10 years you can look up exactly what products are left and get a full inventory.

      Again, obvious idea that lots of people have been working on.

    6. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Quixote · · Score: 1
      You can also set up triggers which will text your phone, send you an email, or something of that nature which will tell when something is empty or near empty.

      AFAIK, RFID tags don't come with a built-in weighing machine. They won't be able to tell if a container is empty or near-empty. At the most they will be able to tell if a container is in the fridge or not.

    7. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a network enabled fridge at The Samsung Experience in NYC. It's pretty cool actually.

      Does it have a way of controlling the temperature so it can be less cool?

    8. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So if you had a load of laundry going you could see how much longer it had till it was completed. Or you could set the intensity of your toaster, etc.

      Isn't it easier just to walk up to the washer and look at the time left? Or adjust your old fashioned toaster by twisting the little nob? What's the point of placing these guys on a network?

      How much extra will this network-ability cost you?

      Can you imagine the nightmare of configuring these devices to work with your computer? MS and the vendors will claim that the configuration will be simple, but it will always be more complicated then they claim. For mp3 players and digital cameras, notice how stupid the upload/download GUIs are, when I should just be able to drag & drop the files to and from the device?

    9. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work on the redmond campus, and in fact I work in research, and, in fact, I presented one of the many demos at techfest last week.

      The truth is that there were 150 total demos and just a tiny fraction of those (something like 10) were cleared to be viewed by the press. The coolest stuff is stuff that you can't see until it's released unless you're under NDA. And there was some super cool stuff there, believe me. :-)

    10. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1


      Among the products included a microwave, fridge, coffee maker, toaster, dishwater and washer drier. These all tied into a control panel which could be accessed from a household computer which showed the status of each item.


      Bad enough that your PC gets owned. With this it's going to be all your house are belong to us. Just think - spyware in your fridge tracking what products you buy and eat, the washer refuses to run because it is new and hasn't been authorized by Microsoft yet?

    11. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      They don't, but they could. There's no reason that the bottom of the container couldn't contain a piezo element that would measure pressure. That wouldn't work for a soda bottle, though. It might be possible to cheaply design a container that had a float arrangement, however. If guinness can put a nitrogen charger in a can of stout...

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    12. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Isn't it easier just to walk up to the washer and look at the time left?

      No.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    13. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Among the products included a microwave, fridge, coffee maker, toaster, dishwater and washer drier.

      This is research ???? This has got to be the saddest example of research I've ever seen discussed on /. I understand Microsoft has a very talented group of scientists in their research department ...surely this is not their work! This sounds more like the results of collaboration among a bunch of marketing people and engineers.

    14. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tend to agree about sitting in front of a computer all day, but it doesn't stretch the imagination to see alerts being popped up on a TV that the wash is done, maybe even waiting until a commercial to do so, or one of these high end remote controls/PDA type things being able to get the info. I think integrating all this with remote control of window blinds, robotic vacuum and everything would be very useful.

    15. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What if they have a big house?
      In other words, these are all toys for Bill Gate's mansion.
    16. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by BoredByPolitics · · Score: 1
      How about building into each tray in the fridge a weighing mechanism, that would give the total weight on that particular shelf. If the items have RFID tags in them, would it be possible to identify where they are in the fridge by triangulation? If so then it would be possible to keep track of each individual items weight based on when it's taken out and put back, and checking the difference in weight.

      If you're the only person who ever uses the fridge, then I agree that this is overkill. But consider families where those who are not responsible for refilling the fridge are it's main users (i.e., the kids). Nothing more annoying than going to the fridge for a glass of cool juice, only to find there's only half an inch left in the bottom of the carton....

    17. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Emperor+Igor · · Score: 1

      They'd also need retinal scans for anyone who opens the fridge so that you could track what little bugger left that mostly empty juice container in there... ...then you could peg him with the Internet-enabled toaster.

    18. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      I can see my self becoming a Microsoft junkie, now lets see which of those products I actually own.
      microwave, nope.
      fridge, nope (air dried food keeps longer fresh food tastes better)
      coffee maker,nope. in an instant (or just a tea strainer)
      toaster, nope (Well I've got a blowtorch)
      dishwater, nope (jezuz, get some exercise)
      washer, At last
      drier, nope ( I hang it out).

      These all tied into a control panel which could be accessed from a household computer which showed the status of each item.
      I know if the washing machine is on.
      So if you had a load of laundry going you could see how much longer it had till it was completed.
      Who cares, there's a store around the corner if I need cloths that badly.
      Or you could set the intensity of your toaster, etc. when you put the bread into it!

      The neatest was the implementation of RFID with the fridge. Using RFID tags which they believe will be on all products in the next 5 - 10 years you can look up exactly what products are left and get a full inventory. , shit better buy some more mars bars, I'm starting to get skinny.
      You can also set up triggers which will text your phone, send you an email, or something of that nature which will tell when something is empty or near empty. does it phone the police and tell them I have a bugler too?

      How ever would I cope without it, and that nice maintance man from Microsoft that pops round to open my fridge once a week when it blue screens.

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    19. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      candy down by 10. time to finger the children.

    20. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Emperor+Igor · · Score: 1

      Yeah, this whole connectivity thing is only going half-way. It's more of a nuisance than a help at this point.

      When the toast is done, the toaster should just put it on a plate for you.

      Also, when the wash is done, the dryer should take it, dry it, fold it and put it in your closet or whatever.

      No need for computer monitoring...

    21. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by grazzy · · Score: 1

      It looks like you're trying to clean these clothes, would you like me to help you?

    22. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Quino · · Score: 1

      What's gained in having the option of either walking to the computer or to the washing machine / fridge to see the status of your clothes / milk bottle?

      Not much.

      If you don't keep your PC on 24/7, it's about useless.

      Even if your computer is centrally located and always on, you need to hover and visit either appliance to get at your clothes / milk.

      Adding an ethernet port to my Frigidaire doesn't do much for anyone at this point.

      It's, sorry to say, not even terribly technically interesting.

    23. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      OK, how many people on slashdot don't have a computer on 24/7? Also, if Microsoft successfully sells the Media Player PC concept to people, there's going to be a whole lot more of them out there. If your laundry room is down a flight of stairs, you might be very glad of the ability to check it from somewhere else. If everything in your house were monitored like this, your wifi-connected PDA would let you know what was going on inside your house when you were in your back yard.

      Most people I know just leave their computers on now, especially if they have broadband. Not leaving your computer on diminishes the usefulness of P2P.

      What it isn't is technically interesting. But it certainly is useful, and none of your objections are reasonable - except maybe for you. In which case, don't buy the stuff. Lots of other people will, though.

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    24. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Sure, you could triangulate locations, it would work really well in an enclosed box like that because you can trivially shield it from external radio noise by making it out of metal and grounding it. You could also put a piezo weight sensor at each corner of the shelf, and you would gain even greater understanding of the locations of items, et cetera.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    25. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by zonker · · Score: 0

      yeah but will they have one of those robot bear's wired up to do this? take a look at this story about it...

    26. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by zonker · · Score: 0

      crap, they have the wrong link on there, here's the right one (instead of the first link i posted), with link to cached video.

    27. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting, though everytime I hear this come up I think of Jini. Jini has been around for aaaageess and is the perfect candidate for this type of situation. The scenario described above can very easily be hacked together with Jini. If only Sun would finally stand behind their own technology....
      In any case, I dont want to belittle their achievement but just want to note that the technology is not the innovation, just their demo.

    28. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by quintinie · · Score: 1
      Or you could set the intensity of your toaster, etc.
      just listen to yourself
    29. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by BasilBrush · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Solution looking for a problem. Microsoft is having problems selling Windows Media Center, Portable Media Center and Smartphone. And as unimpressive as they are, they are still about 1000 times more useful than anything mentioned here.

    30. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Quino · · Score: 1

      Lots of other people will, though.

      That's actually were we disagree :) I'm exactly thinking of people not like us, on Slashdot, but more like my mom who definitely only fires up her PC occasionally. I think people like her and not us are in the majority.

      Besides, aren't we talking about little more than a fridge cam, washing machine cam, etc.? Stuff that the average slashdotter could put together with parts lying around the house?

      I guess I still don't see the point. :(

    31. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by Pingsmoth · · Score: 1

      These were more pure concept items, things that were not really going to be marketed any time soon but wanted to show off where microsoft was heading.

      A friend of mine worked for Microsoft one summer as an intern, and he said that he and his fellow intern-ers were basically given a cubicle and told to "innovate". It sounds like a cool environment that encourages R&D, and would potentially produce lots of great new products and ideas.

      So why do I still get popups on Internet Explorer?

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    32. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It's not cameras, it's an understanding of the state of the system. You can accomplish this with most systems now by hanging a serial port off the microcontroller and sticking an Xjack on there, though it would be ultimately cheaper to just add your own ethernet. The system can tell you anything it wants about itself, and since there's basically no such thing as a non-microcontroller-equipped appliance today that could be anything, including knowledge of impending equipment failures. Anyway, with this kind of information you could do things like watch for when the laundry is done downstairs and sound an alarm upstairs to let you know to go get it. Little things like that would be quite handy.

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    33. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by IchBinEinPenguin · · Score: 1

      an undo button for the toaster, now THAT would be cool......
      Personally I'm not interested in having a script-kidie in latvia setting my toaster to "charcoal", my washer to "shred" and my fridge to "sauna".
      Given the prevelance for removing hardware interlocks in place of software (THERAC-25 anyone?), a web-enabled microwave is just too stupid to contemplate.
      (well, apparently it isn't....)

    34. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by jschottm · · Score: 1

      Or you could set the intensity of your toaster, etc.

      Sorry, but I bet in twenty years the guy that came up with that concept will be sitting on a bench commiserating with the CEO of Pets.com about how "people just didn't understand the significance of their innovations." The fridge thing has useful applications. But I bet less than 1% of the population of the US has ever wanted to adjust the temperature of their toaster from a computer. Innovations have to solve a problem, otherwise they're just marketing fluff.

  3. A bear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Specifically, a Kodiak with fetal alcohol syndrome.

  4. First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new camera-bear overlords.

  5. Scary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Years ago there was a component of a popular entertainment show in the UK called "My Little Friend" (I think), basically the producers would set up a soft toy (eg, teddy bear) with a speaker and place haiiden cameras in the room, then leave a child alone with the toy to draw a picture or something...when the adult was out of the way, the shows producers would sit behind the scenes and talk through the bear to the child...the children would often totally accept that the toy could speak without shock or anything, as if it were totally normal...the child would then be encouraged to have humourous conversations with the bear....hilarity ensued.

    I never really liked the segment, I often wondered if the child would be damaged by this...enough people in the world already believe in rubbish like psychics, spirits, acupuncture, homeopathy and so on, is this just going to make the situation worse? letting kids use their imaginations is one thing, helping blur the line between imagination and reality is just going to make more gullible victims for people like Sylvia Browne and her friends.

    1. Re:Scary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everything you said was true but the comment on acupuncture is false: it's been recently proven that it had an effect on releasing chemical elements through the connection between the pin and the nerves.

    2. Re:Scary... by hunterx11 · · Score: 1

      I am not a doctor. I am not an acupuncturist. I cannot tell you whether or not acupuncture works. But frankly, neither can an acupuncturist. It might have value as a valid form of scientific, Western medicine. But it is not practiced as such, and thus should not be taken seriously unless or until it is. Maybe it does release chemicals, but this has nothing to do with "chi" or any of that nonsense. Chiropractors might make your back feel better, too, but they aren't going to fix anything by eliminating "subluxations."

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    3. Re:Scary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's interesting that our children now live in a world where they will be able to literally interact with a *real* talking, moving bear robot.
      There is no make believe here, even though it's a fantastic concept.

      The line between fantasy and reality is blurred, but oddly enough the reality side is gaining faster...

    4. Re:Scary... by kn0tw0rk · · Score: 1

      It reminds me of the Azimov short story "I always do what teddy tells me" (at least I think that was the title) where the child in the story gets their morals from their interaction with the teddy, but in the plot twist, the bit about killing people being wrong is removed from teddys programming.

      I wouldn't have gotten one for my son if they had been around a couple of years ago.

      What next? Playdough from "A dark night in toyland?" by Bob Shaw?

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    5. Re:Scary... by cookie_cutter · · Score: 1
      I often wondered if the child would be damaged by this...enough people in the world already believe in rubbish like psychics, spirits, acupuncture, homeopathy and so on, is this just going to make the situation worse?

      Yeah, cuz I never recovered from my Mother reading me fairy tales as a child.

    6. Re:Scary... by megabyte405 · · Score: 1

      Hmm. There is a science of it. Certified Medical Acupuncturists? Yes, they're doctors. Yes, they study acupuncture and use it. It's far more science than chiropractors.

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  6. Great, lets parents get more detached by moofdaddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera.

    Great, allow parents to get even more detached from their kids. Instead of playing with their kids now a parent can sit at their computer while looking at internet porn and paying their taxes and watching their kid through the creepy bear.

    We need products that are going to allow for a more personal connection then we are doing now, not a more remote one. Vidoe conferencing and all that is great but what kids need is real connection, they need to see and play with their parents, not the bear with a camera and potentially a detached voice in it.

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    1. Re:Great, lets parents get more detached by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bitch, bitch, bitch, like a typical slashdot troll. I'm sure you know what parents "need" huh? Its a cool toy, just go with it man.

    2. Re:Great, lets parents get more detached by mboverload · · Score: 0
      Todays world has no place for parenting. Parenting reduces productivity and adds distraction to the workforce. Companies hate employees with kids.

      Ok, I have to admit, I hate coworkers whit kids too. Ok ok, mostly just mothers beccause dads still work and don't take time off. Mothers complain they are paid less like they don't know why. It's because they can't work. "Oh, I have to take my kids to the soccer game" or "I need to take 4 months off to have my baby. Make sure to pay me even though I don't deserve it. If you wont I'm going to sue you!".

      I mean, jesus, they choose to have those kids well aware of what it would do to their lives. Pathetic.

    3. Re:Great, lets parents get more detached by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Get off your high horse.

      Your's is similar to the arguments made against violent video games, drugs, gun ownership, etc... that is, if an item is a facilitator to bad behavior then it must be responsible for such bad behavior. Therefore, free will and conscious choices made by an individual are meaningless. Bull.

      "now that little Jimmy has the teddy bear I have no choice but to jack off more at the PC"

      But hey, whatever floats your boat.

    4. Re:Great, lets parents get more detached by northcat · · Score: 1

      Not product. Invention. Technology. Anything but product.

    5. Re:Great, lets parents get more detached by Chatsubo · · Score: 1

      Yes, one day our kids can sit back and recall how their parents tucked them into bed:

      "And then little red riding hood..... NO CARRIER"

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  7. Surveilance anyone? by vidarlo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do we even want a device that can take a picture of children from remote? First, shoudn't we trust our kids enough to leave them in a private situation, when they think they are? Trust is basic in inter-human relationships.

    And then you can think what would happend if someone discovered a security hole in this. If it is accessible remotely, anyone could take that pic, without anyone knowing possibly. Think about kiddie porn. Would you like your kids to carry a network-enable camera all day? No? Thought so!

    1. Re:Surveilance anyone? by nkh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's the worst part of it: if I discovered that the parents I was supposed to trust were spying what I was doing, I would either have freaked out and turned into some kind of "doing nothing all day long" autist or I would have escaped from my home... What the fuck is this world I'm living in? (and don't tell me that you don't have time to raise your kids ;)

    2. Re:Surveilance anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think about kiddie porn.

      uh... no.

    3. Re:Surveilance anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was my first thought. People aleady abuse kids by utilizing misplaced trust. As a father of three kids (Who I play with and pay attention daily to) that thought makes me worried as hell.

      Talk about desensitizing a kid by having a soft cuddly bear asking it to take its clothes off.

      Fuck that, technology like that should never have a place in a reasonable society.

    4. Re:Surveilance anyone? by zbyte64 · · Score: 1

      better yet, if i found out, i would undoubtadly try to hack it. If it proves too difficult, go low tech, ie tv + vcr + teaddy bear looking at tv. Go out on a lan party while they see me doing homework....

  8. Reports initially stated.. by peculiarmethod · · Score: 4, Funny

    that the original version of the beloved teddy bear was, in fact, a small wooden horse. Details at 10.

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    1. Re:Reports initially stated.. by eobanb · · Score: 1

      Is Horse the new Teddy Bear?

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    2. Re:Reports initially stated.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Skunk is the new Horse.

      I was going to write something else but I've forgotten what it was...

  9. Great news by earthforce_1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Until you go into your toddlers room late one night and find the MS teddy bear repeating submliminal messages while they sleep:

    "Don't steal software"
    "Only communists use open source"
    "Support software patents"

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    1. Re:Great news by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Scream for new toys even though you have a room full of 'em"
      "Your Cell Phone needs a camera"
      "Upgrade your computer every 2 years. Buy a new car every 3 years"

    2. Re:Great news by game+kid · · Score: 1

      Kid Mommy, Mommy, my bear was possessed by a Capitalist Borg! Mom Now, now, dear, that's just the guy who gives us our tax return program. (in creepy lullaby voice) Twinkle, twinkle, little star... Kid --but Mom! Mom (bitchslaps Kid)Shut the fuck up dammit.

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    3. Re:Great news by Muttonhead · · Score: 1

      Any old method to make people comfortable with surveillance. Start 'em at birth.

    4. Re:Great news by Mr.Progressive · · Score: 1

      OBEY

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  10. Proposed product name by TimmyDee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Creepy Ruxpin.

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  11. Proof that by j0e_average · · Score: 1

    Microsoft engineers watched Spielberg's AI at least once.

  12. Bleurgh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of the most scary sci-fi short stories I remember reading is about a dystopian society where children are given talking teddy bears at a young age to indoctrinate them. As a result of this conditioning, the populace doesn't act against the dictatorship. A rebellion attempt is made over the course of 20 years by a group who manages to delete some of the "never kill, even in self-defence" moral messages the teddy spouts for one young boy. But the coup fails because the young boy still believes all the rest of the crap, and kills the group instead.

    1. Re:Bleurgh by prichardson · · Score: 1

      I read that story, too.

      Was it Heinlein?

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    2. Re:Bleurgh by yotto · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope, it was Asimov. The name of the story was "Robbie" and is the first in the anthology "I, Robot" which was stol^H^H^H^H used as inspiration for the movie of the same name.

      iirc, it was also the first robot story Asimov wrote.

    3. Re:Bleurgh by yotto · · Score: 1

      Sorry. I read in flat mode ordered by time so it looked like the Heinlen reply was to the Asimov post. You're both right! (and I'm wrong)

    4. Re:Bleurgh by northcat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Great. Thanks for spoiling it for us by telling us the ending.

    5. Re:Bleurgh by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      Well, the part about the Teddy not telling the child that killing is wrong is right at the end, so if they couldn't mention that, there wouldn't be much point posting...

    6. Re:Bleurgh by Shimbo · · Score: 1

      I read that story, too.

      Was it Heinlein?


      No, Harry Harrison: "I Always Do What Teddy Says".

    7. Re:Bleurgh by IchBinEinPenguin · · Score: 1

      "I always do what Teddy says".
      Forgot the author

    8. Re:Bleurgh by IchBinEinPenguin · · Score: 1

      http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/AuthorSpecAlphaList. asp?BkNum=192

      I Always Do What Teddy Says
      by Harry Harrison

      Google is your friend :-)

  13. Crappy Idea #234506 by catisonh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera.

    Here's an idea: interact with your child in person. It works better.

    I am so tired of crap like this being developed which will have absolutely no good impact on anyone. Don't you think a child can tell the difference between a stupid bear toy and his/her parents? Who is it that comes up with this crap?

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    1. Re:Crappy Idea #234506 by martinX · · Score: 1

      Who is it that comes up with this crap? People who don't have kids. People who don't realise that a kid wants parents and it's the parents job to read stories. Anything less and you may as well just dump your kid in a TV room with a bunch of Disney DVDs and a remote control. That's how to make storytelling interactive :-/

      If anyone reading this article thinks that Creepy Ruxpin (good name BTW) is a good idea, remember that in the real world your kids want your time and they want you to read stories. If you answer "Yes, I'll do that" all will be good. If you answer "Yes, but..." then it's just not going to work.

      And as for that washing machine shit mentioned earlier, is anyone's life that full and planned to the minute that they wouldn't have some idea when the damn washing machine is going to finish? And the toaster adjustment via computer? HAH! When will engineers learn: it's no use have remote control over something if you have to keep walking to the control to adjust something when it would have been quicker to walk to the machine (toaster) in the first place. Don't disconnect the user from the machine unless you have a damn good reason. It doesn't work otherwise.

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    2. Re:Crappy Idea #234506 by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 1

      it does work better, but it is a bit difficult to do when you're at work. this proposed bear would enable a parent to communicate and interact with their child when normally they could not. i doubt very highly this is meant to be a substitute for parental interaction, but an enhancement. i wouldn't mind being able to check in on the babysitter once in a while.

      i doubt any of those opposed to this actually have kids... parental advice from other parents is unbearable as it is, and parenting tips from the childless is even worse.

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    3. Re:Crappy Idea #234506 by Slur · · Score: 1

      This goes to the wider question about our increasingly mediated culture. It's as though everyone has been dying forever to have some kind of "middleware" to protect them from the requirements, risks, and complicated emotions of real life.

      The impetus for this may be general laziness, or people just being too caught up in their personal work and goals to want to bother with the broader personal issues in the world and the ongoing trivial dramas of their children's emotional lives. It's a bottom-line mentality with a short-term vision, very much in the spirit of our capitalist institutions. "Externalization" is not just the way that corporations escape the collateral costs of their upkeep. It is fast becoming the goal of every individual.

      An helpful motto to remember as we try to reclaim our humanity: THE INDIRECT APPROACH *NEVER* WORKS!

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  14. Bear by pardasaniman · · Score: 1

    Just when you aren't looking the bear will ask children if they want to buy the latest Microsoft ______ software for kids.. Or even the latest toy. I'd hate to see what happens if the bear gets hacked and spammers figure it out.

  15. Why would I trust a Microsoft fridge? by crivens · · Score: 1

    Why would I trust a Microsoft fridge, when they can't even write a secure browser or email client?

    1. Re:Why would I trust a Microsoft fridge? by bergwitz · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, you should probably go for the Fridgefox instead! No more spyfood and annoying pop-up vegetables.

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    2. Re:Why would I trust a Microsoft fridge? by CrackedButter · · Score: 1

      What's a hacker to do? Turn the fridge light off?

    3. Re:Why would I trust a Microsoft fridge? by mboverload · · Score: 0, Redundant
      MOD PARENT UP!

      You, my friend, are a comic genius.

    4. Re:Why would I trust a Microsoft fridge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean secure as compared to say firefox?

    5. Re:Why would I trust a Microsoft fridge? by kootsoop · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not to mention the Blue Quiche of Death.

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      "Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get" - Jerry Avins
  16. requisite asimov reference by biryokumaru · · Score: 1

    robot caretakers reading stories to kids? ha! everyone knows robbie couldn't talk!

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  17. The Wired Home by newdamage · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This isn't a new concept by any means. Back in the summer of 2001 I had an internship with Whirlpool working on their wired home project. We had a table PC with a web based interface that would allow us to remotely control the fridge, washer/dryer, oven, microwave, etc. It had a "cool" factor to it, but I don't think it ever made it out of R&D just because it wasn't practical at the time.

    The best implication I saw was being able to use it in conjunction with an oven that could refrigerate as well as cook, that way you could put whatever in it before you left for work, and then start it remotely from work so it'd be ready when you arrived home.

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    1. Re:The Wired Home by spectecjr · · Score: 1

      This isn't a new concept by any means. Back in the summer of 2001 I had an internship with Whirlpool working on their wired home project. We had a table PC with a web based interface that would allow us to remotely control the fridge, washer/dryer, oven, microwave, etc. It had a "cool" factor to it, but I don't think it ever made it out of R&D just because it wasn't practical at the time.

      It wasn't a new concept even then. Microsoft has been working on this exact kind of thing for over 10 years now - possibly as long as 15.

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    2. Re:The Wired Home by fyoder · · Score: 1
      The best implication I saw was being able to use it in conjunction with an oven that could refrigerate as well as cook, that way you could put whatever in it before you left for work, and then start it remotely from work so it'd be ready when you arrived home.

      It seems to me there's some sort of technological push on to replace what was once called the wife. With the feminist revolution and families where both parents work, now even wives would like to have the wife. There's definitely commercial potential here, provided it can be packaged so that it is appealing and easy to use.

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  18. I first read the headline.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... as "Microsoft Research Showcase Exploded" and was wondering why the summary was talking about stuffed animals and children instead of listing causualties. Now that would be some crappy programing!

  19. Obligatory reply by yotto · · Score: 0, Redundant

    A network-enabled bear running a Microsoft product alone with your child.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Re:Obligatory reply by teknomage1 · · Score: 1

      The cool part is the camera can automatically upload the ensuing carnage to Fox's latest "When network-enabled stuffed animals attack."

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  20. hackable fuzzy teddy bears by Muhammar · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    these will be pretty popular with perverts

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    1. Re:hackable fuzzy teddy bears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The parent has a point, if these bears use something like say wifi, added with non-techies inability to secure hardware then what's to stop somebody with ill intentions driving around akin to wardriving taking the images for perverted use? AKA. Kiddie porn.

  21. network enabled bear?? by brokencomputer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Damnit, at first i thought that said network enabled beer. :(

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    1. Re:network enabled bear?? by tehshen · · Score: 1

      And if you don't drink it within four minutes, spammers will hack into it, drink it for you, then display advertisements on the coaster. Drink up!

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      Guy asked me for a quarter for a cup of coffee. So I bit him.
  22. parenting by Quixote · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The project isn't fully developed, but the ultimate vision is to have the stuffed animal interact with a child, doing such things as playing games and reading stories. Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera

    When will parents stop relegating their childrens' upbringing to toys (including TV) and start giving the children what is rightfully theirs: a human touch? If you can't be bothered to play a central role in your child's life, then don't have a child!

    1. Re:parenting by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 1

      When will parents stop relegating their childrens' upbringing to toys (including TV) and start giving the children what is rightfully theirs: a human touch?

      I had exactly the same reaction when I read about the bear.

      Only thing I would add to that is this: outside of idiocy of relegating some parenting functions to a piece of tech, it also opens up the door for further damage. I don't think the average person has really considered what it means to have everything networked to everything else. At first blush it "looks really cool! I can communicate with my kid through the bear from work!" On the other hand, anyone sophisticated and motivated enough can as well.

      Just as the approach to WiFi security suggests, I don't think society is really ready to have a fully networked, reachable-by-everyone-in-the-world life.

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      Diplomacy is the art of saying, "Nice doggie!" until you can find a rock.
    2. Re:parenting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey! I was raised by a robotic bear and I turned out as well adjusted Slashdot Troll.

    3. Re:parenting by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When will parents stop relegating their childrens' upbringing to toys (including TV) and start giving the children what is rightfully theirs: a human touch? If you can't be bothered to play a central role in your child's life, then don't have a child!

      What a load of shit. I'm speaking in generalities as that's how your painted with your righteous brush, rather than specifically about this rather dubious bear.

      Perhaps I'm a little sensitive about this given that I actually have a child with another on the way shortly, compared to the countless armchair parents out there espousing their great views on parenting.

      This toy, like television, video games, books, puzzles, or whatever, is a part of the complex environment that you can immerse your child in so that they can get the most out of life, learning while enjoying the ride. This absurd ideology that True Parenting(TM) means sitting interacting with your child every waking minute of every day is the height of idiocy, not only psychologically unreasonable but not being based in anything close to reality. Children seek out and love independent play, and it's a critical element of their upbringing.

    4. Re:parenting by MosesJones · · Score: 1


      You are missing the real point. The idea is that actually the stuffed bear will dynamically generate the pictures of the child, thus enabling parents to have a "virtual child", probably as part of Longhorn. Parents will turn the bear on, it will then ship the kid direct to Microsoft where it will form part of their child army which is set to take over the world.

      The parents won't care because they will keep seeing the photos generated from the bear.

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      An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
    5. Re:parenting by hikerhat · · Score: 1
      You're right. All the most well rounded, healthy, happy children I know are not allowed any toys except blocks of wood and books, and are never allowed to leave their parents sight. Sure, even in high school they won't be able to take a crap without their mother wiping their ass, but they'll enter college as a junior. Parenting success! Well, until they die of alcohol poisoning at their first college party away from mother.

      Relax. Just because a toy has fancy gizmos you didn't have when you were a kid doesn't mean it will turn good parents into bad. And taking toys away from kids with bad parents won't make the bad parents good.

    6. Re:parenting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think you have a point here, but I don't think a teddy bear, mind-numbing intellectually devoid TV, and modern craptastical American public schooling system are exactly the right tools for truly effective parenting (unless you actually embrace these values).

      I say this becuase we live in a society that basically worhsips nothing more than economics. We live just to take dead-end jobs that allow us to buy cookie-cutter houses, eat fast-food meals of horrible nutritional value, and "consume" the latest pop culture trends so that we are all comfortable with being who we are.

      This isn't to say one can't have a "worthwile" life (being defined as how one interprets one's own life), but this sort of life lacks any sophistication or human qualities of greatness or meaningfullness, its just a vicious cycle of economic worship, servitude, and maintainence with no end.

      I would hope that parents out there would be able to recognize that there should be more to life than just "growing up" in the bounds of an economic life to just be like everyone else and recognize that there is hopefully more value to life than the usual elements of culture (fast food, TV, pop culture, etc.) that we are currently bringing our kids up with.

  23. no, the real kicker is... by mickyflynn · · Score: 1

    alt.sex.teddy-ruxpin (Usenet is for sick fucks, I tell you what...)

  24. MSFT Teddy Bear by thegrendel · · Score: 0

    MSFT's cybernetic teddy bear is remiscent
    of another teddy bear -- from Ted Sturgeon's
    classic horror tale, "The Professor's Teddy Bear."

    In that one, an alien intelligence embodied in a
    young child's furry toy lends the kid strange powers,
    powers that let him transform and destroy other
    people. . . . Just like MSFT is doing, actually.

    Yes, and for all the billions that MSFT has thrown
    into "research" they've come up with surprisingly
    trivial results. . . . They labored mightily,
    and delivered a mouse (the famous MSFT mouse).

  25. Stuffed Animal != Good Parent by reporter · · Score: 3, Insightful
    From the article: "The project isn't fully developed, but the ultimate vision is to have the stuffed animal interact with a child, doing such things as playing games and reading stories. Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera."


    Anyone who thinks that a stuffed animal is a good substitute for the presence of a parent is bonkers. Imagine this scenario. The father is too obsessed with working at his startup company, so he buys one of these stuffed animals, say, a bear with network-control capability. He puts the bear in the kid's room and heads off to work. At the office, he activates his Web browser and remotely controls the bear with a Web form. Now, imagine the father acting in this way for a year.

    Do you think that such behavior is good parenting? Such parenting is probably the first step to child abuse.

    Perhaps, I am the oddball in this forum. I think that technology should facilitate the human experience instead of replacing it.

    1. Re:Stuffed Animal != Good Parent by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      Makes me think of the bear in the Kubrik/Speilberg movie 'AI', derived from the story 'Supertoys Last All Summer Long' by Brian Aldiss.

      What next, little boys for parents who can't have children?

    2. Re:Stuffed Animal != Good Parent by supagold · · Score: 1
      I understand your reaction. My first thought was that only a monster would leave their child to be raised by a creepy bear robot. (Imagine when WindowsTDBR crashes - how's a child going to react to that?) But then I thought that only a monster *would* do that. Any parent who would think that doing something like that is ok, is going to have far bigger problems.

      There is also a lot of potential in this kind of technology. Think something like the book in Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age. If we can find a way for toys to enhance a child's experience of the world, I think a lot of good could come of it. The problem is that as much harm could be done by a system that leads a child through a set of experiences. It isn't something we could feasibly do with present-day technology, but this isn't a shipping product, it's something in some lab somewhere. (What if it escapes?!!) It's something I would have to evalutate carefully before I gave one to my kid, but I think I'd want to play with it first anyway, so I don't think that will be a problem.

    3. Re:Stuffed Animal != Good Parent by jesterzog · · Score: 1

      Anyone who thinks that a stuffed animal is a good substitute for the presence of a parent is bonkers.

      I agree absolutely, but in this case I think it's more an issue of whether the bear is in the hands of good parents or bad parents. I certainly wouldn't advocate abandoning your children to a camera-equipped teddy bear all day -- to do so sounds more like child neglect than anything resembling good parenting. But most parents I know, even when at home with their children (which they hopefully are) aren't able to stay directly attached to their children all the time in order to look after them properly.

      In order to maintain a decent environment for bringing up children, parents typically have to do all sorts of things including cooking, dishwashing, laundry, and all sorts of general housework. Even if it's just to help keep an eye on a child who's in another room, I can understand that many parents might find something like this to be very beneficial.

      This is, of course, keeping in mind that one of Microsoft's future visions is a home environment that's very integrated with the 'net. It doesn't necessarily entail going to your desktop computer and opening a web browser to see your child.

  26. Bear by northcat · · Score: 1

    Network enabled bear? Stuffed bear? Toy bear? Teddy bear? Anything?

  27. I have the solution. by reality-bytes · · Score: 1

    My patent-pending Mk-1 eyeball visual product quantity measurement system will solve all the problems that RFID couldn't!

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    Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
  28. MOD PARENT UP by northcat · · Score: 0

    Well said.

  29. Now... by EMIce · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...the bear wouldn't look anything like this, now would it?

    1. Re:Now... by Taladar · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, it wouldn't look like a 403 Forbidden Error.

  30. Microsoft "Ouch" by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    The more personal Microsoft's toys get, the more crucial will be their security and safety. Everyone expects office equipment to fail. But the wrath of a mother who can blame her kid's mishaps on the Microsoft Corporation will outweigh the spin power of even the most well-financed legal and PR departments.

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  31. In other news... by adolfojp · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Microsoft unveils their new line of spyware for kids!!!

    Cheers,
    Adolfo

  32. If you don't want to spend time with your child by gavri · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Why the fuck reproduce?

    That was the creepiest slashdot summary of all time. As usual I have no plans of reading TFA

    1. Re:If you don't want to spend time with your child by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      This comment is deviously insightful, but probably unintentionally.

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  33. What a stupid waste of money. by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

    Real R&D involves exploiting and extending the sciences, not this sort of nightmare toy.

  34. But if it ran Linux... by PMJ2kx · · Score: 1

    ...would you call it "Mandrake Icebox"? Sounds better than a Microsoft fridge, if you ask me.

  35. Animals, non-beleivers respond to accupuncture by xtermin8 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When doctors prescribe millions of people Vioxx, Prozac to teenagers, and countless medications without long term studies or independent monitoring, I think its ridiculous to criticize accupuncture. I you were a health professional, you would realize how little is known about the mechanisms of the 'chemical experiments' that pass for health care in the United States. Its interesting also how much health insurance companies pay for chiropractic care. Until Allopathic doctors have adequate scientific data for their treatments, I'll continue to go to my accupuncturist I formerly worked in "Western,"scientific health care myself- no longer.

    1. Re:Animals, non-beleivers respond to accupuncture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two wrongs don't make a right.

      Pot kettle black

      etc etc etc

  36. Paedophelia! by Jebediah21 · · Score: 1

    I'm sure no Paedo would give a kid such a toy...

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    Everytime you look at porn a devil gets their horns.
  37. Please provide links! by xtermin8 · · Score: 1

    It been proven scientifically proved recently that I am the world's greatest lover. Countless studies have confirmed my incredible sexual powers. And for only $99.99 a month I will give you my secret for sexual potency

  38. But what if you can't stand the little fucker? by AmazingRuss · · Score: 1

    I don't have or want kids, but I know lots of people that have 'em and really don't want 'em. They got through the legal period for putting them up for adoption becase they were whacked on post-natal hormones, and now they're stuck. These parents are doing their best, given the situation, but I could see as how having a creepy robot bear for the little monsters to dribble on would be helpful to parent's sanity...and maybe spare the kid some parental freak outs. Interacting through a bear would insulate the kid from the "I really want to throw you off a bridge, but I'm doing the best I can not to, because none of this is your fault" vibe. It's no worse than putting the kid in the wind up swing in front of the tv. Maybe even better. I hear those girls-gone-wild ads cause overating in nursing children.

  39. There's no science for acupuncture. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Exactly right. There's no science for acupuncture. However, it does work in some cases.

  40. So where's the pithy comment about... by WanChan · · Score: 1

    ... a Beowulf cluster of these things?

  41. Timed to coincide with patent vote tomorrow? by NigelJohnstone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wonder if this 'MICROSOFT IS INNOVATIVE' story is time to conincide with the patent vote in Europe tomorrow.

    Lets see MSN Desktop search....
    http://desktop.google.com/

    Teddy bear running windows...
    http://www.aibo-europe.com/

    Navigating photo libraries....
    http://www.flickr.com/ ?

    TouchLight,
    http://www.minorityreport.com/ ..predicts upcoming traffic conditions..
    http://www.its.berkeley.edu/conferen ces/trb/00326. pdf

    1. Re:Timed to coincide with patent vote tomorrow? by BasilBrush · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, they got the Touchlight idea from Minority Report, and the computer teddy from AI. It seems Microsoft Researches technique to be innovative is to watch Sci-Fi movies and try to recreate what they see there using Windows. And why not? After all, they got their business model from Michael Douglas in Wall Street - the "Greed is Good" speech.

    2. Re:Timed to coincide with patent vote tomorrow? by chthon · · Score: 1

      Do you mean AI, the movie.

      There is an older SF story, unfortunately I do not remember the title, nor the author, about a computerised teddy bear.

    3. Re:Timed to coincide with patent vote tomorrow? by erhnamdjim · · Score: 1

      I think I know the same story - the teddy bear is programmed to raise the kid as an assassin, right? Unfortunately, I can't remember title/author either :-/

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  42. Troll by xtermin8 · · Score: 1

    I was tempted to agree with the AC until he/she brought up accupuncture. I think the widespread unquestioning acceptance that technology and will help solve all problems is a more dangerous problem than superstitious beleifs in "psychics and spirits." Accupuncture vs Cox-2 inhibitors, is a good example of this. At first the AC seemed to address the problem of unquestioning faith in technology, but, like many on ./,however, don't seem to understand the difference between healthy skepticism and pig-headed narrow-mindedness.

  43. Can you imagine doing Tech Support for that bear? by GlacierDragon · · Score: 1

    On top of all the other things that can go wrong, detached parent waits until 40 minutes into the call to tell you "Oh, by the way, Johnny tried to flush it. Could that be a problem?"

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  44. So hang on a minute... by lxt · · Score: 1

    ...a cuddly toy. That connects to a network. And has the possibility of taking video and pictures?

    Because there's nothing like increasing the range of technology available to peadophiles...

    1. Re:So hang on a minute... by Qzukk · · Score: 1

      ...a cuddly toy. That connects to a network. And has the possibility of taking video and pictures?

      Only if its named Margarine Von Calorie-Half.

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  45. Is Bill Gates the Antichrist? by couch_warrior · · Score: 1

    Personnaly, I view the development of an AI Teddy Bear as further evidence that Bill Gates is destined to be the antichrist. IMHO, he is one of the few succesful people I have seen who is so pathetically brain-damaged that he really really thinks that people want to do away with all human contact and replace it with digital interaction. Just think, AI teddy will of course have to incorporate digital rights management. Which will prevent parents from providing custom input into the raising of their children. Only State-approved, licensed parenting algorithms will be allowed. And of course, *endangering* a child by failure to provide them with a state-approved AI-teddy will be classified as child abuse. Making AI-teddy the perfect tool for the coming totalitarian State to indoctrinate children in atheist PC behavior from the cradle. As a parent this scares me so bad that my hair stands on end. I am sometimes tempted to pray for Mr. Bill to have a disabling stroke before he can damage our society any further.

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    1. Re:Is Bill Gates the Antichrist? by Taladar · · Score: 1

      While I agree with you about Bill Gates in general I wouldn't dub him "Antichrist" since that would imply Christianity was good and judging by the history of this religion I strongly doubt that.

    2. Re:Is Bill Gates the Antichrist? by Quelain · · Score: 1

      So, what parallel universe are you posting from where the coming totalitarian government is going to be atheist? We've got right-wing fundamentalist christians in this universe.

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    3. Re:Is Bill Gates the Antichrist? by couch_warrior · · Score: 1

      Wow, that was a long way to go to make a dig at Christianity. But you have made a logical fallacy. If Bill is evil, and he is the antichrist, then the antichrist is evil. Therefore, the opposite of the antichrist - Christ, would be good by implication. However, Christianity, the religion that claims to follow Christ, has been unfaithful to his teachings, and has committed murder, robbery, and genocide. This may imply that many followers of Christ are evil, but the followers of many other faiths have committed similar acts (you know- somehting about the two towers), therefore this more likely only implies that humans are inherently hypocritical, not that Christ was evil. The point about Bill being the "antichrist", though, wasn't to call him the opposite of Jesus, but to imply that he is buidling the infrastructure to enable a totalitarian and oppressive world state. And non-Christians probably won't enjoy geting flocked by it any more than the flock does.

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      "Sic Semper Path of Least Resistance"
    4. Re:Is Bill Gates the Antichrist? by couch_warrior · · Score: 1

      Ah, the plot is working then. You see, right-wing fundamentalists aren't really Christians. They are brain-dead stooges, whose policies are the opposite of the teachings of Jesus. (Jesus said He had no kingdom in this world, so how can we be a 'christian' nation? Jesus said that when you pray you should pray in secret instead of showing off in front of men - so how would that justify public prayer in schools? Jesus said to give to all who ask from you - so how does this condone cutting aid to needy families? Jesus said to forgive those who persecute you - so how does this justify bombing them? Jesus looked at a taxed coin and said render unto ceasar the things that are ceasar's - so how does this justify tax cuts for the rich?) The fundamentalists are being used like an army of satanic zombies to lull the Church into quiescence while the mechanisms of totalitarian domination and control are being assembled (for use against terrorists, of course). Won't they be surprised when those systems are turned against them!

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      "Sic Semper Path of Least Resistance"
    5. Re:Is Bill Gates the Antichrist? by Quelain · · Score: 1

      Thanks, that's bloody well said.

      I have often wondered about genesis being the literal truth, while the sermon on the mount is some sort of allegorical hippy ramblings.

      I suppose you have to worry when even an atheist can spot the doublethink.

      Here's hoping the surprise and bewilderment appears a bit faster than last time, they didn't have megaton nukes at Normandy.

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  46. Windows, lans and stuffed animals? by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The project isn't fully developed, but the ultimate vision is to have the stuffed animal interact with a child, doing such things as playing games and reading stories. Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera."

    Can you say "Chucky"?????

    I can't envision a more terrifying concept...

  47. Reasearch by billsf · · Score: 0, Troll

    Has Microsoft _ever_ invented a damn thing? This simply doesn't set right. They pervert technology, not invent, like IBM, Philips, etc.

  48. Clippy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Researchers at Microsoft have found that a small animated paper clip can aid people writing documents from avoiding common mistakes. One Microsoft spokesman stated "Our new Clippy assistand proves that we are on the leading edge of computer technology. Our new product can instantly and automatically correct any grammatical error. We see Clippy supplanting the need to teach grammer and spelling in schools. In our rigourous testing, Clippy has never made a mistake. It's a wonderful product, and a demonstration of our commitment to leadership and innovation."

  49. In the not-too-distant future by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera."

    June 18, 2007
    Threat Advisory from McAfee AVERT

    Virus/Worm Identifier: W32/Bear.A

    Threat Level: Critical

    Threat Pathology
    After being infected, MS-Snoogums(TM) performs one of the following four tasks, chosen apparently at random.

    1) MS-Snoogums will attempt to strangle the nearest child.
    2) MS-Snoogums will begin swearing and berating any child in the room.
    3) If the child is identifiably female (using simple pattern-matching algorithms against three jpegs embedded in the code), MS-Snoogums will make choose lewd comments from a catalog of 47 built into its codebase.
    4) MS-Snoogums will attempt to persuade the child to transport him to the nearest Wells Fargo branch. If successful, MS-Snoogums will use built-in IrDA port to hack Diebold Windows XP Embedded cash machines. Records are altered to show withdrawal from account of one "I. P. Nightly".

    System Protection and Cure
    McAfee AVERT is currently tracking the vendor response. Vendor recommends all children be provided with MS-My-First-Shotgun immediately as a protective measure.

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    #DeleteChrome
    1. Re:In the not-too-distant future by Kwil · · Score: 1

      Or, more scary.. and plausible:

      Threat Pathology
      Once infected, W23/Bear.A allows full duplex audio transmission to and by the intruder. The intruder will also have access to the video receiving and digital camera systems of the bear.

      Paedophile's wet dreams.

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    2. Re:In the not-too-distant future by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      Marge: Your doll is trying to kill my husband! [pause] Yes, I'll hold.

      Marge lets the Krusty Co. repairman into the kitchen, to see Homer on the floor, the doll yanking at his tongue. Picking up the doll, the repairman identifies the problem.

      Repairman: [pointing to a Good/Evil switch on the back of the doll]
      Yup, here's your problem. Someone set this thing to ``Evil''.

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  50. This is the best Microsoft can do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They probably have the most well-funded software research lab in the entire world and the best they can do is to recycle ideas from 10 years ago? Is it because their researchers are too well acquainted with the limitations of MS software that they can only think in a similarly short-sighted fashion? I've seen more innovative ideas at a high-school science fair.

  51. Doesn't this sound like 'The Diamond Age'? by hoovs · · Score: 1

    Reading about the teddy bear, it struck me as a simplified, not very intelligent, version of The Lady's Illustrated Primer in Neal Stephenson's book The Diamond Age.

  52. Lol @ 'interaction' by StefanoB · · Score: 0

    Since when is taking a picture of your kid 'interaction'?

    Gee, it would have been nice if my parents had taken more pictures of me when I was a child...

    StefanoB

  53. editors should not have mod points... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is a perfect case. Zonk modded a perfected valid comment down on his own.

    We have a new Sims.

  54. Wrong direction.. by Terrasque · · Score: 0

    That teddy bear thing is entirely in the wrong direction.

    Technology should enable people to have more spare time, and to be able to have more real, in person time with their kids, not giving them more excuses to bury themselves in work.

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    It's The Golden Rule: "He who has the gold makes the rules."
  55. In geek terms... by hachete · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...none of this sems like real cutting-edge. None of this is going to change my world. How much do they spend on research?

    IMO, once you're hooked into some huge dinosaur like MS office, you don't let go until you or it dies. And you don't do any fancy research on the side. Take for example Longhorn. That's looking more like Duke Nukem every day. And mark my words, when that appears, it won't be as revolutionary as the spin makes out. It will still have to run MS Office so it can't be that revolutionary or one of the only products that makes a profit for MS will die. Therein lies the catch.

    I've heard the term roach motel applied to MS and this is it. All that expensive talent goes in and we get, what, a teddy-bear? Uh-uh. At least with google, expensive talent produces goods, things that make me go "ah". MSN makes stuff that makes me go "yuck". Amd I guess therein the difference lies.

    h

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    1. Re:In geek terms... by cgenman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just so that people know, the bear idea is many years old, and was from Japan

      here is a practical application of it, note the date on the article. Here is another take. Note this was out in the field in 2000.

      There was also a great telepresence robot bear pair, whereby moving one robot bear would move the resultant other robot bear at the other end of the phone line, but I can't seem to find a link to it.

  56. Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of all the items they had on display, the bear was probably one of the lamest. The surface computing demos were probably the most intriging IMO.

  57. These inventions are all rubbish. by ikekrull · · Score: 0

    Pretty much everything interesting about all these inventions is going to depend on open standards for them to gain popularity.

    Interactive toys? Well, yeah i can see how this would be sort of cool as a fluffy AIBO or RoboSapien - but if they wanted to do this, why are they waiting so long? I mean, I can do this with a robosapien and a Palm PDA, its not 'innovative', and it's not rocket science.

    Microsoft is just rehashing its previous attempt at interactive toys (ActiveMates) which included interactive dolls of Teddy Ruxpin and Barney the Dinosaur.

    Its taken MS years to go from having an actual product in the marketplace, to killing it, to putting it forward as a 'new concept'.

    It's really f**king pathetic.

    Surface computing? Like, BEEN DONE BEFORE!!

    http://www.media.mit.edu/research/ResearchPubWeb .p l?ID=39

    Seriously, MS 'Research' is clearly just sitting round with it's figurative thumb up it's ass.

    Microsofts one and only ability to 'innovate' anything revolves entirely around one concept - integration into the OS. It simply isn't capable of doing anyting genuinely innovative, it simply takes ideas, 'integrates' them into its OS and calls that 'innovation'.

    Whats incredible is that 'integrate it into the OS' is the oldest, least innovative strategy in computer software, bar none.

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    I gots ta ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
  58. But... by emilv · · Score: 0, Troll

    Does it run Linux?

  59. Harry Potter patent by metoc · · Score: 1

    One Microsoft Research invention was a clock that has a hand for each member of the household and instead of showing time, shows the location of each member. No mention if it could tell time.

    Obviously no one at Microsoft Research reads Harry Potter or they might have noticed the Weasley household has a clock that not only identifies the location of household members, but knows when they are in peril.

    As for whether it can tell time of not, the Spy Kids movie had a watch that was so full of gadgets it couldn't tell time.

    I wonder if they will mention these movies as prior art when they apply for patents?

  60. Cue the "BSOD" jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just to get all the predictability out of the way. Here's your thread to post your lame, inevitable BSOD jokes, people. Bears that crash! It's funny...BECAUSE IT'S MICROSOFT! Sorry, "Micro$haft," or however it's spelled in your IRC chatrooms. Meanwhile, it's been 15 years and Linux hasn't threatened the Windows monopoly one bit. The late 90s "golden child" media hype machine about Linux is over. That must sting.

    1. Re:Cue the "BSOD" jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The late 90s "golden child" media hype machine about Linux is over.

      Damn, and here I was, thinking that Linux was set to dominate the market place in the next few years...

      Guess I better go sell my RHAT shares then...

  61. Re: Scarry.... by sacbhale · · Score: 1

    enough people in the world already believe in rubbish like psychics, spirits, acupuncture, homeopathy and so on, is this just going to make the situation worse?

    Homeopathy is not a blind belief. It is a science as much as as aluopathic medicine is. Homeopathy uses symptoms even subtle ones to diagnose diseases (much like Alopathy or regular medicine). And the medicines given are not some voodo but infact chemicals and extracts of plants and animals (in essence chemicals). The medicine is usually administered either as liquid or as sugar pills soaked in the liquid.

    Homeopathy has been used in may parts of the world as alternative medicine.

    Only thing about homeopathy is that it takes an extended period of time for it to heal than a quick fix which antibiotics give you. But the homeopathic healing is much more durable and can cure chronic troubles.

    I personally have taken homeopathic medicine for my asthama and even though i carry my inhaler with me i havn't had to use it in the last 2 years.

  62. Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....But can it run Linux?

  63. Actually, it was the standard. by khasim · · Score: 1
    Perhaps I'm a little sensitive about this given that I actually have a child with another on the way shortly, compared to the countless armchair parents out there espousing their great views on parenting.
    The ability to produce offspring does not, in any way, make you more of an expert of raising them.

    For proof, please see any of the thousands of cases of abused children.
    This toy, like television, video games, books, puzzles, or whatever, is a part of the complex environment that you can immerse your child in so that they can get the most out of life, learning while enjoying the ride.
    And exactly what does a video game teach that wouldn't be better taught via parental interaction?

    The same with this bear.

    The same with TV.
    This absurd ideology that True Parenting(TM) means sitting interacting with your child every waking minute of every day is the height of idiocy, not only psychologically unreasonable but not being based in anything close to reality.
    Actually, it was the standard until recently. The babies were looked after until they were old enough to start helping with the chores. They learned what to do by helping their parents.

    They didn't have TV or video games or electronic bears (nor a lot of books). They just had human contact.
    Children seek out and love independent play, and it's a critical element of their upbringing.
    Keep believing that. Or you could look and learn. Watch how the kids who aren't invited to play on the teams react to that exclusion.

    Humans are social animals.
    1. Re:Actually, it was the standard. by ergo98 · · Score: 1

      The ability to produce offspring does not, in any way, make you more of an expert of raising them.

      The ability to type doesn't make you any more of an expert. Apparently, though, the ability to type doesn't imply the ability to read, as I clearly stated that I was more sensitive to these sorts of comments because of parenthood, not that it made me any more of an expert. I will say this, though - it is absolutely remarkable what high standards people have before they've actually done something, and it's amazing how much those standards change in the real world.

      Actually, it was the standard until recently. The babies were looked after until they were old enough to start helping with the chores. They learned what to do by helping their parents.

      Ah, the good old days. The days when a dozen children didn't all fight for a moment of attention from parents who were too busy trying to subsist -- instead they all got individual around the clock loving care. They had a real Santa Claus back then too.

      Keep believing that.

      You see, here's the problem - you're just an idiot with an opinion and a bloated sense of the value of that opinion. I'm not even going to bother arguing with such a blowhard given how absolutely rudimentary of child psychology and early education, pounded home in every tome about childcare.

  64. I think that's the core problem. by khasim · · Score: 1

    The tasks you've mentioned do NOT involve sitting in front of a computer.

    But the bear is linked to the computer.

    What this is designed for is the parent who is in front of a computer for some reason. I don't think this would be at work, because that would mean the parent's work network is connected to their home network.

    Which leaves, parents working at home or playing computer games.

    If both parents are on the computer that much, there is a problem.

    This is designed for parents who are too self absorbed and shallow to be bothered raising the child(ren) they've created.

    Kids love to help with the laundry and so forth. They really want to be close to their parents.

  65. Three rights make a left! by xtermin8 · · Score: 1

    I'm afraid I have a personal agenda as both me and family members have suffered from serious health problems that are the result of "treatment" by FDA approved, widely used, medications. Now for a broken bone I'd still go to the local emergency room, but I resent my healthcare options being compared to results of childhood trauma. FU

  66. Google Accupuncture scientific studies by xtermin8 · · Score: 1

    There's a lot of scientific studies for accupuncture. Don't spread FUD

  67. What amazed me about this year's techfest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What amazed me about this year's techfest was that I wasn't as amazed by the things that MSR was showcasing as I had been in previous years. I was however impressed that there were lots of researchers working on Ink-specific problems (I.E. How to make the TabletPC usable without the keyboard and make writing pretty and so on), and I was impressed by the number of researchers that had TabletPCs.

    There were interesting groups doing bit-torrent-like P2P networks (although not as cool as the anonymous locality based system researchers showed the previous year), and there were groups continuing to make progress doing search. They did some neat research about breaking the problem of the human detector bitmaps that people use to try and block spammers (from hotmail and google and yahoo, etc). There were lots of hardware groups, but I didn't see anything there that struck me as too interesting. Maybe the stuff which involved interacting with cameras, or the pen that could read codes printed on paper and on the computer screen and let you mark up your digital document from paper. That was kinda neat. The laser/LED/stylus/pen toys they gave out to all participants were kinda cute, though. I like swag.

    The coolest thing I have seen by far in the past few years was the researcher who took 3 months and developed a way to run ELF binaries on Windows. I don't think Microsoft will be developing that researcher's work, but it was quite cool. He ran some benchmarks and discovered that he could get Linux Apache running faster on Windows XP than on RedHat Linux (on the same hardware). Next to that, I'd have to say that I also saw some cool face recognition in video, and there was low-power GPS in MS Spot watches (they analyzed local radio station signals and did something like triangulation).

    I'm always impressed by the amount of money Microsoft spends on research each year, and it's really neat to be a member of the community that can come back each year and talk with all the researchers and maybe, just maybe, find something that they did that I could build into a product that impacts billions of people.

    There was a company which had a great research department which never developed the far out stuff their research department built... That company was Xerox, and we have heard their story.

    The TabletPC comes with Handwriting and Speech Recognition built-in. It "just works" with software like Word or Outlook or MSN IM. Many thousands of MS employees volunteered to have their photos taken for an MSR project involving face recognition for Digital Photography or whatever purposes MSR wanted. MSR has access to the back ends of large internet services like MSN and every year, I submit my hard drives on all machines at work to their indexing experiment.

    I'm saying that MSR is the new PARC, except that once a year, the company shuffles up the research and brings it into the product development. Now, I'll address some /. memes. That's the kind of innovation that most outsiders don't have access to and don't consider. Microsoft will move the software industry forward, regardless of how many companies out there sue MS for lost profits. Bill Gates may be the worlds richest man, but he's not evil. If you had 40 Billion dollars of net worth, would you have converted more than 8 Billion to cash and given it away? If Microsoft was a corporate whore, why would it spend Billions of its revenue on researching in every single area of computer science? Why would it be the number 1 company in the US to donate money matching its employees? Why does Microsoft spend money each year encouraging all of its employees to give money to charitable causes and match those dollars through the company? Giving money to charity is not evil.

    Linux/OSS is definately a threat to Microsoft. Everyone at Microsoft knows their groups competitors. Microsoft invented the "sell software cheaper" strategy back in the day. That's WHY Microsoft Office became dominant. It wasn't as good as Word Perfect + Lotus 123 + e

  68. Desktop computers have little to do with it by jesterzog · · Score: 1

    The tasks you've mentioned do NOT involve sitting in front of a computer.

    Exactly right, and the point I was trying to make in my final paragraph was that in the proposed Microsoft future, which I tend to like (despite not being a great fan of Microsoft), people won't be sitting in front of computers all the time when they're using them.

    You're limiting your point of view by assuming that computers are restricted to rectangular boxes in fixed places that people have to be gone to in order to be used. On the contrary, Microsoft wants computers everywhere (running Microsoft software), all networked into a big integrated system and designed for people to interact with. A network-enabled teddy bear is just another part of it. From the article itself:

    It's part of a broader focus by researchers on alternative methods of interacting with computers. Another initiative along those lines is something that Microsoft researchers call "surface computing."

    The surface computing projects use combinations of sensors, cameras and projectors to turn various surfaces into computing interfaces. For example, one of the projects turns an ordinary tabletop into an alternative type of computer screen that senses the presence of objects and displays graphics and text.

    In such a world, it's completely feasible that a parent might be keeping an eye on their child in the other room for a few minutes via a networked monitor on the refrigerator or a stove top, for instance. Sitting in front of a computer isn't necessary, nor is it desirable. If something's wrong, then put things down and go through and check what's going on. Meanwhile, the state of the networked cooking appliances can be monitored to some reasonable extent from the other room.

    I realise that many kids do love things like laundry and when they do it's brilliant, but it doesn't mean that they'll want to be near their parents doing laundry or cooking all the time, or that the parent won't also have to deal with two or three other children. There will always be unpredictible situations where it's complicated for parents to be everywhere at once, and this could be seen as one possible way to add a bit more convenience to parenting if it's used appropriately.

    Obviously bad parents could remain bad parents by using this in a bad way and rarely actually interacting with their children. But like many other things, just because it's possible for it to be abused by misguided parents doesn't automatically make it a bad thing.

  69. Double take... by w8300v-2 · · Score: 1

    At first glance, I thought it read "Microsoft Research Showcase Exploited"

  70. Re: Scarry.... by zod1025 · · Score: 1
    Ahahaha!

    Oh, man, am I glad that they use actual chemicals, whew! I thought for a second that they were using magic or something! That makes me feel so much better - chemicals!

    Oh, oh, and I'm glad that homeopathic remedies take longer to work - I wouldn't want to have to take a sick day ever! This way, it feels much more like my body is naturally healing itself!

    I'm sure glad you no longer have to use your two year old "asthama" inhaler that you still, for some reason, carry around...

    Give me a break.

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    -ZOD-
  71. Thank you for contacting Microsoft Fridge Support by MrRTFM · · Score: 1

    no, there is no way to control the temperature through software - this feature will be available in service pack 4.

    Until then, the manual workaound to raise the temperature is to open the fridge door for 'x' minutes every 30 minutes to lower the temperature by 'x-2' degrees.

    There is no manual workaround to lower the temperature

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  72. Fucking Idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are many alternatives that work compared to side-effect inducing chemical goodies such as ritalin and prozac, for example. But these arn't chemicals! They can't work! Acupuncture works for many things, and there is even research that demonstrates it, quack. So you don't understand how it works, BFD. How exactly do SSRIs work? They raise seratonin levels within days, but it takes a month or longer before a patient is relieved. So obviously something else is going on. But we don't understand it, so we shouldn't use it, by your standards at least. Stop supporting pill pushers and perhaps actually try to treat yourself.

  73. Well that's good then. by khasim · · Score: 1
    I'm not even going to bother arguing with such a blowhard given how absolutely rudimentary of child psychology and early education, pounded home in every tome about childcare.
    Well, it's good you're not going to argue because that's the only part of that sentence that made any sense.
    Ah, the good old days. The days when a dozen children didn't all fight for a moment of attention from parents who were too busy trying to subsist -- instead they all got individual around the clock loving care. They had a real Santa Claus back then too.
    Hey, you're the one that said, and I quote
    This absurd ideology that True Parenting(TM) means sitting interacting with your child every waking minute of every day is the height of idiocy, not only psychologically unreasonable but not being based in anything close to reality.
    If you can't deal with the reality that parents DID spend more time with their their children when there weren't TV's or video games to use as parental substitutes, then that is YOUR problem.

    Crying does not change the facts.

    Good parents spend time with their children rather than letting an electronic device babysit the kids. Bad parents defend their use of such devices.

    The kind of parent you are is demonstrated by your extreme reaction to that and by you having to resort to false dichotomies.
    1. Re:Well that's good then. by ergo98 · · Score: 1

      Well, it's good you're not going to argue because that's the only part of that sentence that made any sense.

      Remarkable how most other people would easily determine that I missed the word "part", but you have trouble with it. Not surprizing.

      If you can't deal with the reality that parents DID spend more time

      You have an extraordinary inability to read, and the only argument you appear capable of having is against strawmen. My statement was that parents don't, shouldn't, and never have spent every waking minute fawning over their children, and that there are periods of independent learning where children effectively use toys, electronics, books, or whatever. This is very necessary part of development.

      Good parents spend time with their children rather than letting an electronic device babysit the kids....The kind of parent you are is demonstrated by your extreme reaction to that and by you having to resort to false dichotomies.

      This is just too, to use it in a modernist sense, ironic.

  74. Microsoft Research by bagjuice · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who finds it funny that Microsoft RESEARCH showcases a teddy bear with network access. Where's the RESEARCH in that? I could get some random goup of grad students to put a little box in a teddy bear with wifi and have some lame gui and perhaps mp3 player reading a story. How does that get the spotlight in research?

  75. I'd agree with you, except... by khasim · · Score: 1
    But like many other things, just because it's possible for it to be abused by misguided parents doesn't automatically make it a bad thing.
    I'd agree except for the following ...
    You're limiting your point of view by assuming that computers are restricted to rectangular boxes in fixed places that people have to be gone to in order to be used. On the contrary, Microsoft wants computers everywhere (running Microsoft software), all networked into a big integrated system and designed for people to interact with. A network-enabled teddy bear is just another part of it. From the article itself:
    That doesn't exist yet.

    So, right now, the parent would be sitting in front of a computer.

    I'll change my opinion of that when it can be shown that the parent isn't sitting in front of the computer.
    1. Re:I'd agree with you, except... by jesterzog · · Score: 1

      That doesn't exist yet.

      So, right now, the parent would be sitting in front of a computer.

      Well meaning no disrespect, it is a Techfest where research scientists get to show off everything they've been working on, mostly to other Microsoft employees plus a few journalists and academics. (As usual the slashdot summary is woefully inaccurate and misleading.)

      I didn't read anything that implied that this bear was a product actually for sale, and I'd presume that it exists only as much as all of the wired up dream homes that Microsoft has been showcasing for the past several years. Example quote from here on the techfest:

      "Though Schofield declined to say how many of these products will eventually make it into the real world, the tech that reaches implementation will most likely be reworked and repackaged before it's sent into circulation."

      If it were sold and primarily used as a product to help parents by babysit their children without having to take an active part, I admit I'd have very similar concerns to yourself.

  76. Rumpleshithead! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn you space moose

  77. Teddy bear by danila · · Score: 1

    There have already been a few negative comments in the thread about the computerised bear. I guess the people reviling this idea have not see Steven Spielberg's Artificial Intelligence. The animatronic teddy bear, who asserts `I am not a toy,' was probably the film's most endearing character (see him in this photo) and immensely natural and loveable in his role.

    Say what you want, but if you are so hopelessly blind to the future to not realise that toys WILL change as technology improves, then I have nothing but pity and disdain for you. If you don't think that infusing child's toys with love and compassion is good, then you will probably be a terrible parent. If you don't think that a fuzzy artificially intelligent childhood friend is a good thing, then I wonder what kind of dark and emotionally deprived childhood you had yourself.

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    1. Re:Teddy bear by jschottm · · Score: 1

      If you don't think that a fuzzy artificially intelligent childhood friend is a good thing, then I wonder what kind of dark and emotionally deprived childhood you had yourself.

      One that was filled with music (classical, folk, international, modern), absence of TV, a wide selection of books (fiction and non-fiction), a focus on creative toys (Legos etc.) and the imagination, a large amount of time spent in nature, family trips that emphasized the wonder of people and the world rather than the kitschy junk (Disneyland, beaches that seem to exist only to host an endless stream of shoddy shops on a boardwalk), and plenty of time with friends. How dark and emotionally deprived. I certainly don't agree with every choice my parents made, but I think they were on the right track.

      I can certainly see that children would gravitate toward a toy that attempts to be pleasing at all times, and I see that as a bad thing - humans are lazy and tend to take the easy way out. If interacting with a toy is easier than actually dealing with humans who may not try to do everything they wish, chances are that they're retreat into the toy.

    2. Re:Teddy bear by danila · · Score: 1

      You had a nice childhood, alright. But the question is - can most parents provide the same kind of childhood to their children? I think it's neither possible, nor desirable. Parenting cannot be and should not be a full-time job (although I am glad that it was for my mother).

      A robotic teddy bear can take some of the burden from parents. It can do much more than simply console the kid. It can teach the child about the world, point him towards good books, give him ideas for creative projects, keep an eye on his safety and so on. In essence it can be a childhood companion, a reliable surrogate friend, parent, or brother. And the level of its activity and intrusiveness can be adjusted depending on the child's environment. If owned by a lucky kid such as you or I, the teddy bear would not be as involved, would not bond with the kid as strongly and would play a more supportive role, helping the parents, not parenting the kid itself. But belonging to a poor kid living in a bad neighborhood with a single mom, who works two jobs, the teddy bear would take a more active role in child's development.

      To get some ideas you can read Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age, or A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer. While the general quality of its predictions is rather low, it shows nicely the feasibility of using AI toys (a book in that case) to raise children.

      P.S. I realise that not all toys will be as responsible as I outlined above, but then how would it be worse than the present?

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  78. Supertoys Last All Summer Long by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 1

    That would be a great marketing name.

  79. Re: Scarry.... by sacbhale · · Score: 1

    Be informed my friend...
    when i say chemicals they are not active chemicals... and for your kind information everything in the medicine world comes from some form of chemicals.
    for more info read this

    And as for me still carrying my (two year old)inhaler ...it does not expire for another 3 years... and you only know the value of such things when u suffer from chronic illness.