He gave very specific examples as to what can be improved, but just like you don't have to time to dropeverything you're doingand write a new GUI for him, neither does he. Of course, you missed the whole point which was these problems are prevalent in almost ALL linux softwre.
Not quite, OS X's printer setup does fall into some of the same pitfalls he's talking about. For instance, if I fireup print manager and go for IP printing I'm presented with a menu of printer types (rendezvous, LPD/LPR, IPP or Socket/HP Jet Direct and an adress and que name field. Granted the help is a little more useful, but not much. I think he probably would have written the same rant, if he was only writing about CUPS
Of course, he has to get SuSE installed first, which should be fairly easy as there are plenty of online distros that you can install via FTP. But you better hope the installer picks up your NIC on the first try, otherwise you have to wade through a list of drivers to find one for his card. If he finds one that might work, he'll then be prompted with a dialouge asking for arguments, with no explination as to what those are. Eventualy, you'll find one that will install with no args, and everything will work, but it's just another example of what the original article was talking about.
Sure he did, he said the dialouge when adding a printer should show all the avilible ques on the network. And if none were found, should notify the user as such. He mentioned specific places where the documentation was lacking and where the interface needed to be changed and gave examples.
and don't buy the bullshit about the integrated designs being overly limited. The first mac I bought was a 5400/180. They were "education" macs, very similar to the eMacs, al in one design, non upgradeable except for ram. Stock the machine had 16MB of RAM, 1.5 gig HDD, 180Mhz PPC processor, no L2 cache, and OS 7.5. By the time I retired it this year it had: 192MB of RAM, 40 gig HDD, 300 Mhz G3 processor, 256k L2 cache and OS 9. And the processor upgrade was once of the lower upgrades.
You'd be suprised what you can do with an integrated machine like that.
When you can carry your entire music collection with you anywhere you want to, call up any song in your collection on demand (searching by name), generate playlists on the fly, and boot your computer from your discman, come back
If you have a problem with the machine (as in a failure) apple will most certainly take it back. It's when you decide that you didn't want the machine after all, that apple won't take it back.
Try again. The point that I was making is that pepople with iPods are more likely to start talking to each other because they have common ground. That is in and of itself a sense of community. Whether they do it on a regular basis or on your particular subway is irelevant. The fact that they are more prone to do so and do it at a greater frequency than normaly observed makes a level of comunity.
Well as for the one article you mentioned, people didn't do that often and certainly not with strangers before the iPod. Status symbol or not, the iPod creates a sense of comunity because it's easily recognizeable. You have instant common ground with a stranger now. I think that's what it's about. We see people all day long with headphones pluged in, but 90% of the time, you couldn't identify what device they were using or who made it. The iPod is very recognizeable and I think that changes something.
Call it eliteism or call it snobishness, but Apple products create their own community. I can sit in the lounge of the local colleges student center and sniff out AIM traffic all day and randomly send people IMs, but I don't. Yet when I see another user on a powerbook, the first thing I do is check Rendezvous to see if they're on. It's all about common ground and comunity.
The FBI is a huge problem. The FBI is an unconstitutional federal police force:
'Congress shall have the power... To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof."
Just so you know, the convention of/Applilcations and/Users is from NeXT, and makes logical sense when you think about it. All the unix tools are located in their standard directories (/usr/bin etc etc) but a good chunk of users aren't going to use them, they're going to use their GUI apps and such. Why would you want to put all your terminal apps in the same folder that your GUI apps are?
I have 644 items in/usr/bin, if I added them to my Applications folder, I'd have 700 items in my folder. Now as a (hypotheticaly) non CLI familiar user, why would I want to have 700 items in my folder where I put my programs when I don't use most of them? I wouldn't. So maybe I might start deleteing them, or maybe I'll make folders to organize them, or move them. And then what? What happens when I install an app that calls those programs?
That's why there's a user level set of folders that aren't the standar UNIX convention.
Survivor is a highly rigged outcome, maybe not controlled but rigged in different manners. You can bet that any women that one of the guys could put up with, were not being voted against by that guy. The guys were out to get rid of the other guys first because they were viewed as the biggest threat. The problem is, the women were doing the same thing. So we have men being targeted by men and women. And then when there's only one or two men left and they realize their mistake, it's already too late, the women have control and the men are going. Women have the greater chance of winning because the men underestimate them politicaly. Survivor is an absolutely horrible thing to use to compare the sexes.
Somehow it always ends up that civilians get killed though huh?
Well, when they stand arround gawking when the shooting starts, sometimes they get killed. Have you actualy talked to a soldier before in your life that's been in combat? I would guess no. Maybe you should.
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He gave very specific examples as to what can be improved, but just like you don't have to time to dropeverything you're doingand write a new GUI for him, neither does he. Of course, you missed the whole point which was these problems are prevalent in almost ALL linux softwre.
Not quite, OS X's printer setup does fall into some of the same pitfalls he's talking about. For instance, if I fireup print manager and go for IP printing I'm presented with a menu of printer types (rendezvous, LPD/LPR, IPP or Socket/HP Jet Direct and an adress and que name field. Granted the help is a little more useful, but not much. I think he probably would have written the same rant, if he was only writing about CUPS
Of course, he has to get SuSE installed first, which should be fairly easy as there are plenty of online distros that you can install via FTP. But you better hope the installer picks up your NIC on the first try, otherwise you have to wade through a list of drivers to find one for his card. If he finds one that might work, he'll then be prompted with a dialouge asking for arguments, with no explination as to what those are. Eventualy, you'll find one that will install with no args, and everything will work, but it's just another example of what the original article was talking about.
Sure he did, he said the dialouge when adding a printer should show all the avilible ques on the network. And if none were found, should notify the user as such. He mentioned specific places where the documentation was lacking and where the interface needed to be changed and gave examples.
The only thing that's "proprietary" in the mac is the motherboard and processor. Beyond that, it's all standard.
And I'm curious as to what well chosen compenents you'd put into your PC that you don't think comes in the macs?
OS X
and don't buy the bullshit about the integrated designs being overly limited. The first mac I bought was a 5400/180. They were "education" macs, very similar to the eMacs, al in one design, non upgradeable except for ram. Stock the machine had 16MB of RAM, 1.5 gig HDD, 180Mhz PPC processor, no L2 cache, and OS 7.5. By the time I retired it this year it had: 192MB of RAM, 40 gig HDD, 300 Mhz G3 processor, 256k L2 cache and OS 9. And the processor upgrade was once of the lower upgrades.
You'd be suprised what you can do with an integrated machine like that.
When you can carry your entire music collection with you anywhere you want to, call up any song in your collection on demand (searching by name), generate playlists on the fly, and boot your computer from your discman, come back
If you have a problem with the machine (as in a failure) apple will most certainly take it back. It's when you decide that you didn't want the machine after all, that apple won't take it back.
Try deleteing the spaces from the links
Try again. The point that I was making is that pepople with iPods are more likely to start talking to each other because they have common ground. That is in and of itself a sense of community. Whether they do it on a regular basis or on your particular subway is irelevant. The fact that they are more prone to do so and do it at a greater frequency than normaly observed makes a level of comunity.
But you can wrap headphones arround your neck. Unless you have a carrying strap, that probably wouldn't work as well for the CD player.
Well as for the one article you mentioned, people didn't do that often and certainly not with strangers before the iPod. Status symbol or not, the iPod creates a sense of comunity because it's easily recognizeable. You have instant common ground with a stranger now. I think that's what it's about. We see people all day long with headphones pluged in, but 90% of the time, you couldn't identify what device they were using or who made it. The iPod is very recognizeable and I think that changes something.
Call it eliteism or call it snobishness, but Apple products create their own community. I can sit in the lounge of the local colleges student center and sniff out AIM traffic all day and randomly send people IMs, but I don't. Yet when I see another user on a powerbook, the first thing I do is check Rendezvous to see if they're on. It's all about common ground and comunity.
But can you fit your entire collection into your pocket and take it with you to call up on demand any time anywhere?
Two button trackpad, no hardware required:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12800
Yeah, i second that. The second button on PC trackpads is a horrible design.
arrow keys == scrolling controll
foregoing power:
provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States
The FBI is a huge problem. The FBI is an unconstitutional federal police force:
... To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof."
'Congress shall have the power
The dock isn't meant to organize your applications. It's meant to provide quick access to comonly used and open programs and minimized windows.
He was talking about classic OS, which unless you specificaly set up a remote login system had no shell to log into.
This was on slashdot before and is a good overview:
http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/
Just so you know, the convention of /Applilcations and /Users is from NeXT, and makes logical sense when you think about it. All the unix tools are located in their standard directories (/usr/bin etc etc) but a good chunk of users aren't going to use them, they're going to use their GUI apps and such. Why would you want to put all your terminal apps in the same folder that your GUI apps are?
/usr/bin, if I added them to my Applications folder, I'd have 700 items in my folder. Now as a (hypotheticaly) non CLI familiar user, why would I want to have 700 items in my folder where I put my programs when I don't use most of them? I wouldn't. So maybe I might start deleteing them, or maybe I'll make folders to organize them, or move them. And then what? What happens when I install an app that calls those programs?
I have 644 items in
That's why there's a user level set of folders that aren't the standar UNIX convention.
Survivor is a highly rigged outcome, maybe not controlled but rigged in different manners. You can bet that any women that one of the guys could put up with, were not being voted against by that guy. The guys were out to get rid of the other guys first because they were viewed as the biggest threat. The problem is, the women were doing the same thing. So we have men being targeted by men and women. And then when there's only one or two men left and they realize their mistake, it's already too late, the women have control and the men are going. Women have the greater chance of winning because the men underestimate them politicaly. Survivor is an absolutely horrible thing to use to compare the sexes.
Somehow it always ends up that civilians get killed though huh?
Well, when they stand arround gawking when the shooting starts, sometimes they get killed. Have you actualy talked to a soldier before in your life that's been in combat? I would guess no. Maybe you should.
Yeah, I mistook where thise post was in the thread. Sorry.