There is a huge difference between a grassroots campaign, which the OSS evangelists CLAIM to embrace, and a lust for success so strong that it overwhelms all logic and crosses over into hilarious hypocrisy, which the OSS evangelists actually DO embrace. It's not universal among the OSS fans, but a quick look around will easily find its presence -- for example, virtually any multi-paragraph anti-Microsoft post is guaranteed a positive moderation here at Slashdot.
People like myself have been making fun of the zealots for years because they're comical. I appreciate someone who stands up for what he or she believes, but much of the OSS demographic could teach a class in The Irony of Accusing Another of FUD.
Why would that be smart? Or, by "smart," do you mean "fans of wasting time and money for no good reason other to appease a hilariously small, cheap and malcontented demographic that has never, ever done anything but mindlessly bash Microsoft?"
In THAT case, I'd totally agree, but I doubt you meant something so lucid.
I think that's what non-idiots call "FUD," as not only does O97 work well under XP for myself and anyone I know, but it works better under XP than any other previous Microsoft OS.
But no, let me guess -- since this is anti-Microsoft FUD, it's "evidence." Bleh.
One thing I would love to see is some hibernation/sleep done right. You know - close the laptop, computer recognizes it being in sleep state, and dumps the ram to hd. Depending on the side of the ram, should take like 5-6 seconds (hopefully). Then open the laptop, HD is read for 5-6 seconds (hopefully) and computer is right where you were at. When can we finally see THAT?
The Dell Inspiron 1150 upon which I lovingly craft this comment works exactly like what you describe. Close the lid, wait five seconds, and it's asleep. Open the lid, wait five seconds, and I'm up and running from where I left off. I have an old G3 Powerbook running 10.3 that also works just as simply and effectively, besides being slightly slower to drift off and awaken.
I am no clairvoyant, but I can't imagine that these are the only two laptops on Earth that behave in such a fashion, so why do I keep hearing people wonder aloud when such a feature will exist?
As the matter of fact, the first thing I did when I installed XP for the first time was figure out how to turn all the effects off.
So, turn them off and do your thing. What's the problem? A two-minute Google search tells you how to lose any of the effects you want.
I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here. Choice is good, right? Isn't that what I hear around this place ad nauseum? So, choose what you want and get on with life. Despite what the zealots want you to believe, one could train a pigeon to strip away the extraneous candy from Windows.
Longhorn will be the decision point to whether my next PC will be an x86 or a Mac.
You're not alone, and I think it's reasonable to wonder if the future of the PC platform rests on how well Longhorn turns out. I can buy a Mac that performs, is dead-sexy (and small) enough to sit on top of the desk, and runs a really sweet OS.
Plus, a lot more people are talking about Macs than they are about the big grey box hidden under the table.
Nope, they were that damned good at selling what they had. The sooner you OSS fanboys learn the difference, the better chance you have of actually doing something in a capitalist world.
There should be a button somewhere on the/. screen that automatically inserts this post.
Well, you could stop being so damned afraid of your child and remove the stupid game without staging an elaborate lie to cover up what is a perfectly reasonable act. Will he cry and bitch? Possibly, but maybe you won't raise one of those assholes who wants to call a lawyer as soon as someone tries to deny him absolutely anything.
Sheesh. What in the hell happened to parents just saying "No" instead of treating kids like royalty? This Just In: you can love your offspring while still denying them things, despite what your idiot neighbor claims.
I am only a child of the 70s, but it's certainly a different, wussier, world out there than I remember.
When I say "faster," I mean more snap. Things like right-click menu display lag in a given application, screen scroll lag (yes, I had the right video drivers installed), the opening of saved files within a given application, auto-spellcheck catch-up delay, etc, etc. To pick one thing in particular, I guess it would be the load time of small applications. Editpad (a non-Microsoft product), for example, opens in about a second under Windows, but the equivalent small text editor takes probably two or three under the other OSs. Two seconds is no big deal, but it's just an example of what I mean by snap.
In summary, I guess that there were just fewer of the "Oh, come ON!" moments that are familiar to anyone who uses old hardware.
An obsolete 400mHz machine doesn't run any modern desktop apps on any OS well, while a modern 2.5+gHz machine runs XP with anti-virus and a firewall so seamlessly that it's not even noticeable. So, what's the point? Anyone who claims that Windows NEEDS an extra core just to run maintenance apps is absolutely full of shit and is nothing more than a pathetically stereotypical "Ha ha, Windows sucks" fanboy.
In fact, Windows XP SP1 with AVG *and* a software firewall ran office and home apps faster on my old C433/256 than Mandrake 9.2 *or* FreeBSD 4.3 with no A/V or firewall. But, since I dare say so on Slashdot, I'm either a liar or a paid Microsoft shill.
Don't use your real name? Don't mention the name of the place at which you work? Wow! I should be writing all of this down, right next to my "How Not To Drown While Doing Dishes" instructional.
Microsoft's tendency to sell you things which *reduce* your ability to use your computer.
Oh, for Christ's sake, shut up. This is such a load of garbage, and I just can't watch YET ANOTHER one of these brutally misinformed posts exist without getting the slap that it deserves.
Have you used Windows in the last, what, six years? Of course you haven't. Tell you what, Scooter, go to Best Buy and play around for ten minutes before embarrassing yourself with idiotic statements like what you just made.
What in the HELL does that mean? Surely you're not saying that you, as Americans, don't have other choices, are you?
You've got literally hundreds of options in terms of affordable cars, some of which perform quite well and have enough room for the biggest damned family, and that consume less than half the gas as these embarrassing pieces of shit. Even if you just NEED a damned SUV (and you don't), there are a wealth of Japanese models that are not only built better in every possible dimension, but feature a reasonably sized V6 that can still get comparatively decent mileage.
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You've forgotten, young man. Netware 4.11 was what MANY techs fondly remember as being the most stable file-server OS on Earth. I have personally seen dozens of Novell machines with multiple-year uptimes, rebooting only for major upgrades or hardware failures. The Linux zealots can say what they want, but that just doesn't happen with any other OS on white-box hardware.
Novell, in my opinion, started to fall apart once it got all crazy with Bordermanager, Groupwise and the other "add-ons" that worked against this legendary stability (Apache for Netware? Ugh). I haven't spent much time using Bordermanager myself, but I can't recall ever seeing an install that was stable in the truest sense of the word.
I know, I know, this isn't a file server world anymore, but it's kind of sad to see what happened to an OS that used to just sit there and run indefinitely while hundreds of users hammered away at it. There is a good reason why the old IT urban legend of the server being drywalled in for years before anyone noticed was running Netware.
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There is a huge difference between a grassroots campaign, which the OSS evangelists CLAIM to embrace, and a lust for success so strong that it overwhelms all logic and crosses over into hilarious hypocrisy, which the OSS evangelists actually DO embrace. It's not universal among the OSS fans, but a quick look around will easily find its presence -- for example, virtually any multi-paragraph anti-Microsoft post is guaranteed a positive moderation here at Slashdot.
People like myself have been making fun of the zealots for years because they're comical. I appreciate someone who stands up for what he or she believes, but much of the OSS demographic could teach a class in The Irony of Accusing Another of FUD.
In THAT case, I'd totally agree, but I doubt you meant something so lucid.
Oh, oh, but this is open source, so it's OK.
I absolutely love your post. Thanks for helping to even things out at Slashdot.
But no, let me guess -- since this is anti-Microsoft FUD, it's "evidence." Bleh.
The Dell Inspiron 1150 upon which I lovingly craft this comment works exactly like what you describe. Close the lid, wait five seconds, and it's asleep. Open the lid, wait five seconds, and I'm up and running from where I left off. I have an old G3 Powerbook running 10.3 that also works just as simply and effectively, besides being slightly slower to drift off and awaken.
I am no clairvoyant, but I can't imagine that these are the only two laptops on Earth that behave in such a fashion, so why do I keep hearing people wonder aloud when such a feature will exist?
These are PowerMacs. They're not meant for the Larry Lunchpails of the world.
You people don't even bother TRYING to make any sense anymore, do you?
Objectivity is like hens' teeth in the Linux community, so I suggest that most non-zealots are currently rolling their eyes.
So, turn them off and do your thing. What's the problem? A two-minute Google search tells you how to lose any of the effects you want.
I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here. Choice is good, right? Isn't that what I hear around this place ad nauseum? So, choose what you want and get on with life. Despite what the zealots want you to believe, one could train a pigeon to strip away the extraneous candy from Windows.
You're not alone, and I think it's reasonable to wonder if the future of the PC platform rests on how well Longhorn turns out. I can buy a Mac that performs, is dead-sexy (and small) enough to sit on top of the desk, and runs a really sweet OS.
Plus, a lot more people are talking about Macs than they are about the big grey box hidden under the table.
Nope, they were that damned good at selling what they had. The sooner you OSS fanboys learn the difference, the better chance you have of actually doing something in a capitalist world.
There should be a button somewhere on the /. screen that automatically inserts this post.
Sheesh. What in the hell happened to parents just saying "No" instead of treating kids like royalty? This Just In: you can love your offspring while still denying them things, despite what your idiot neighbor claims.
I am only a child of the 70s, but it's certainly a different, wussier, world out there than I remember.
In summary, I guess that there were just fewer of the "Oh, come ON!" moments that are familiar to anyone who uses old hardware.
In fact, Windows XP SP1 with AVG *and* a software firewall ran office and home apps faster on my old C433/256 than Mandrake 9.2 *or* FreeBSD 4.3 with no A/V or firewall. But, since I dare say so on Slashdot, I'm either a liar or a paid Microsoft shill.
Don't use your real name? Don't mention the name of the place at which you work? Wow! I should be writing all of this down, right next to my "How Not To Drown While Doing Dishes" instructional.
Oh, for Christ's sake, shut up. This is such a load of garbage, and I just can't watch YET ANOTHER one of these brutally misinformed posts exist without getting the slap that it deserves.
Have you used Windows in the last, what, six years? Of course you haven't. Tell you what, Scooter, go to Best Buy and play around for ten minutes before embarrassing yourself with idiotic statements like what you just made.
You've got literally hundreds of options in terms of affordable cars, some of which perform quite well and have enough room for the biggest damned family, and that consume less than half the gas as these embarrassing pieces of shit. Even if you just NEED a damned SUV (and you don't), there are a wealth of Japanese models that are not only built better in every possible dimension, but feature a reasonably sized V6 that can still get comparatively decent mileage.
Novell, in my opinion, started to fall apart once it got all crazy with Bordermanager, Groupwise and the other "add-ons" that worked against this legendary stability (Apache for Netware? Ugh). I haven't spent much time using Bordermanager myself, but I can't recall ever seeing an install that was stable in the truest sense of the word.
I know, I know, this isn't a file server world anymore, but it's kind of sad to see what happened to an OS that used to just sit there and run indefinitely while hundreds of users hammered away at it. There is a good reason why the old IT urban legend of the server being drywalled in for years before anyone noticed was running Netware.
Probably tomorrow.
If you have to ask, you've never used a Real product.
No? Stunning.
I really, really hate Slashdot sometimes.
I am still waiting for a call back from NASA's purchasing department.
So, you've eaten at The Lost Gringo All-U-Kan-Eat Mexican Buffet too?