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EFF Guide To Blogging Anonymously

jacksonwest writes "Annalee Newitz and Kurt Opsahl just published a great how-to on blogging anonymously. How To Blog Safely About Work (Or Anything Else), covering both the legal and technical aspects of blogging about your job and staying truly anonymous. A must read for those blogging from or about their office."

286 comments

  1. Too bad by thundercatslair · · Score: 4, Interesting

    that this person didn't see this article earlier

    1. Re:Too bad by CSMastermind · · Score: 4, Interesting

      oo Wow. You know I disagree. I think she made the right decission to not post anonymously. If you look at the site there's nothing wrong with the pictures. It's not like she was hurting the company name by doing it and on a personal note, if I was in her place, I wouldn't want to work for them after they did that. I don't know, I'm proud of who I am, both in real life and online, I'm not afraid to take credit for what I say but that doesn't mean I don't from time to time need to do things anonymously.

    2. Re:Too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She could have hidden behind all the anon. technology she wanted but those sexy legs would have given her away everytime.

    3. Re:Too bad by Flibz · · Score: 1

      Well if their work is anything like mine, it's blocked by the proxy server for being an "advocacy group" so they won't have seen it...

      As is Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth and the WWF (not the wrestling one, the animals one)...

  2. Iran and China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most useful in Iran, China and may be in USA

    1. Re:Iran and China by Jonny_eh · · Score: 1

      and Canada too! The ban was lifted today, so no more worries for us oppressed Canucks!

    2. Re:Iran and China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      may be in USA

      I think you misspelled Canada.

  3. Queen of the Air... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Quote: California has a law protecting employees from "demotion, suspension, or discharge from employment for lawful conduct occurring during nonworking hours away from the employer's premises.

    Posting pictures of yourself isn't illegal, but it didn't help the Queen of the Air...

    1. Re:Queen of the Air... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      occurring during nonworking hours away from the employer's premises.

      The photos were taken on the employer's plane. But does an employer's vehicle qualify as an employer's premises?

      Posting pictures of yourself isn't illegal, but it didn't help the Queen of the Air...

      She posted pictures of herself wearing the company uniform.

    2. Re:Queen of the Air... by John+Seminal · · Score: 0, Troll
      Quote: California has a law protecting employees from "demotion, suspension, or discharge from employment for lawful conduct occurring during nonworking hours away from the employer's premises

      That sounds like Cali, filled with all the fruitcakes and fags. Thank God I live in a red state, where people can still chain someone up against a fence and give em' a good ole fashioned ass whipping for being gay. Or black. Or jewish. I really works for so many vices. And in most counties, the sheriff will back you up.

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    3. Re:Queen of the Air... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      North Dakota and Colorado also have similar provisions. However, they are not as expansive as the California provision in that they provide for "business-related" exceptions. In other words, the off-duty conduct must not be in conflict with the business of the employer. I think it's unclear how the courts would interpret "in conflict with". The history of such statutes shows that they are generally used in the context of off-duty tobacco use and dating people in the office. Plus, I think employers generally understand that most people do not want to go through years of litigation for a lost wage claim.

    4. Re:Queen of the Air... by radish · · Score: 2, Insightful

      away from the employer's premises.

      Those photos were taken on one of the employer's planes, and thus, are not covered by that law. They would likely have had more trouble firing her if the photos were taken at home, and she wasn't wearing uniform, and rightfully so. But if you do something at work which is explicitly against your terms of employment, expect trouble.

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  4. My strategy by slyxter · · Score: 3, Funny

    is to bash on a co-worker and then send the link to everyone at the office

    1. Re:My strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Wouldn't it work better if you started a blog as your co-worker, posted negative things about your boss/whatever, and then forwarded it to people anonymously?

    2. Re:My strategy by DaHat · · Score: 0

      You could always do what my co-worker is doing... start a blog on the topic of a co-worker (in this case, me) named I Love Brendan Grant.

  5. Just be careful by lecithin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We always 'google' our perspective new-hires. People have been not hired because of the content discovered.

    Just be careful in what you do, and it should be good.

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    1. Re:Just be careful by CSMastermind · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm curious what industry you work in. Lol after you said that I googled myself and my freinds. It's intersting to find people online journals and things. It's scary to think that we leave a trail behind online.

    2. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It must suck to be named John Smith and interview at your company.

    3. Re:Just be careful by lecithin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "I'm curious what industry you work in."

      The software industry. I would estimate that 98% of the people reading this would know the company.

      I don't believe that it is policy of the company. I think that it just started in 1 division and spread out a bit. HR probably wouldn't approve.

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    4. Re:Just be careful by remahl · · Score: 1

      I'm sure you have also been reinforced in your decision to hire someone too, because of what you found when you googled him/her, right?

    5. Re:Just be careful by lecithin · · Score: 1

      "I'm sure you have also been reinforced in your decision to hire someone too, because of what you found when you googled him/her, right?"

      Yes! I have found out that a person is a bit more than they presented in person. This has influenced my take on them to the good as well as the bad.

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    6. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      HR probably wouldn't approve.

      Because it's probably illegal? HR knows their business. You really ought to stick to yours and judge the candidates on their merits. If you have something to ask them about their past, bring it up in the interview.

    7. Re:Just be careful by Nataku564 · · Score: 1

      Or, better yet, simply be yourself and dont work at places which have a problem with that. Makes for a much happier existence, in my opinion anyway.

    8. Re:Just be careful by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Funny

      I always "whip out my dick and ask for a blowjob" our prospective new-hires. People have not been hired because of the poor fellatio technique.

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    9. Re:Just be careful by mp3phish · · Score: 1

      What kind of log did you just crawl out from underneath? Can you please explain to slashdot how this might be even REMOTELY illegal?

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    10. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Illegal? No way!

      Not only is this a good idea, but not doing it as part of the hiring process would be irresponsible.


      Thus proving once again that you haven't got the slightest idea what you are talking about. Stay in your little cage, code monkey. Let the HR people work out what's legal and not legal in regards to hiring decisions.

    11. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My name is "Rusty Shackelford".

    12. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous+Luddite · · Score: 4, Funny

      >> 98% of the people reading this would know the company.

      ahh. You mean SCO?

    13. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's my resume

    14. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's called discrimination.

      Example:
      You interview an ace programmer who's been out of the industry for a few years and he does really well with all the interviewing managers. One manager decides to take it upon himself to "background check" the guy. It turns out that the reason he hasn't been in the industry for a while is because he's been in jail for child molestation. Well, you don't want to work with this guy, of course. So the manager circulates the weblinks and everyone agrees to reject the candidate.

      Next thing you know, the guy is filing suit against your company for discriminating against him for past crimes which he has already "paid for". Just as he was in jail, now your company is doing the bending over for him. All because one manager decided to step beyond the bounds of his role (and the law).

    15. Re:Just be careful by Rylz · · Score: 1

      I'm not one to change my lifestyle just to make myself more hireable. I often post/blog some controversial opinions online, and if my potential employer doesn't like it, I'm not so sure I want to work for her. I'm not going to keep my mouth shut just to be hired by someone I won't end up agreeing with anyway.

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    16. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holee shit. In the immortal words of Mr. Yankovic, "I Think I'm a Clone Now"

    17. Re:Just be careful by badasscat · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's scary to think that we leave a trail behind online.

      No, it's stupid to think that you don't. Especially if you are blogging, where the entire idea is that you leave a trail behind online.

      Here's an idea for those who'd like to blog about work: don't. Seriously. I'm as pro free speech as anyone, but being in favor of free speech doesn't mean I think people should be gabbing endlessly on cell phones during theatrical movie showings or that strangers should be screaming in my ear as I'm walking down the street or that employees should be talking about their employers on publicly accessible blogs. I mean, use your freakin' head.

      Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do that thing.

      And if you do, and you have to face the consequences of it, tough tits. It was your choice. Nobody asked you to write a blog. In most cases, nobody but your employer probably even cared to read it.

      To think you can actually write something in public online and not "leave a trail" is beyond naive.

      (And yes, I practice what I preach - I have a blog, and I have another site as well. I have never even mentioned the name of either my current employer or my previous employer online. It should be pretty much common sense, but I guess it isn't. These are things you do not publicly broadcast unless it is part of your job to do so.)

    18. Re:Just be careful by dominion · · Score: 2, Funny

      A few years ago, I wrote a pretty inocuous essay about globalization, and the effects of the IMF on Argentina. I've also written critically about electoral politics.

      Is that why I have 7 years of experience in PHP and MySQL, yet I can't find a job? Even when I have examples of code that I've written and a pretty damn decent portfolio?

    19. Re:Just be careful by bitrex · · Score: 1



      How do employers determine which of the 50 people with my name that live in my general area and show up in the first few pages of Google results is _me_? Or do they grab the first name on the list that has been convicted of armed robbery and assume?

    20. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck you and your company.

    21. Re:Just be careful by Boogaroo · · Score: 1

      Except that is is perfectly legal to discriminate based on criminal record. You are limited in what you can ask about those criminal records. Misdemeanors are usually only applicable within five years. Felonies are generally applicable forever(except when sealed or expunged). Felons are not in a protected class.

      That person can sue, but his chances are very slim unless it's a specific crime and/or state. The crime you mentioned is a felony and there's no time limit on that.

      IANAL and all that, but I'd like to hear someone disprove or clarify my statements. I did reasearch this before posting after all.

    22. Re:Just be careful by iCEBaLM · · Score: 1

      Unless the content discovered had anything to do with the prospective employee being incompetant for the job he was being considered for I think it should be completely irrelevant what google turns up.

      Just what kinds of things have/would you find through a google search that would disqualify a candidate?

    23. Re:Just be careful by mp3phish · · Score: 1

      Well I believe that it is perfectly legal to ask up front for past crimes. If the applicant doesn't disclose them then there is no reason to hire him.

      Now that might vary from state to state but I am pretty sure you don't have to hire someone if they don't disclose background information which you (legally) ask for up front in the application process.

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    24. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We always 'google' our perspective new-hires.

      Do you realize that for most people, their name occurs so often that a google search will return results for hundreds (at least) of other people, which makes the results pretty useless?

    25. Re:Just be careful by cgenman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Considering his other comments, I'm guessing Microsoft.

      JK.

      On the other hand, do be careful with Google. If you google me, I've apparently built bike frames, been a tax attorney, am Colorado's premier one-legged skiier, made several games, founded a birdwatching society, and am several computer consultants. One or two of these people is actually me. I'm one of 9 or 10 of me online. Unfortunately, according to the phone book there are over 50 of me in the US alone, meaning that if you google my name you only have a 1 in 5 chance that I have anything online at all, and then a 1 in 10 chance of guessing which one I am. And I don't have a very common name. If your candidate is named "Tom Jones" or "Hong Li" or "Sanjay Singh", you're pretty much firing at random.

      As a side note, I've always wondered if someone with your name could sue you for defamation for doing dumb things under your own name online...

    26. Re:Just be careful by Robber+Baron · · Score: 1

      Please tell me what company you work for and I will be sure never to darken their door. I have no interest in involving myself in any company that engages in what is an obviously unethical screening practice.

      I bet your company makes people take polygraphs too.

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    27. Re:Just be careful by CSMastermind · · Score: 2, Informative

      The thing is that I don't blog. The things I find about me under google are freind's journals, stats from the sports I played, and some newspaper articals. People who don't know how to turn on a computer could be mentioned several times online by people they know.

    28. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      depends on the state and the nature of the job. usually the job function must be directly related to the felony for the employer to legally deny employment (e.g., a child abuser applying at a daycare center).

    29. Re:Just be careful by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 2, Funny
      Well, sure. They can try to sue you. But by your own experience, how could they prove that *you* (psychophysically) are the 'you' (named defendant) that is also 'you' (named plaintiff)?

      And if you sue yourself, can you actually win a judgement?

      .... trots back over to Groklaw where it's less confusing

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    30. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So that's why I don't get hired: I'm a famous poet who died about a century ago. Who wants someone like that around their office?

    31. Re:Just be careful by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 1
      Criminal record? That definitely happens.

      But what if you are discrimated against because you are pro-GPL for example?

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    32. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moron. For example, I just Googled for myself. Apparently:

      (1) I died in a skiing accident in Japan in 2003..
      (2) ..but still did well in the Chicago marathon last year.
      (4) That I just signed a major league baseball contract.
      (6) That I'm an Australian police chief.

      When none of the above are actually me.

      Entries 3 and 5 are about me, but you wouldn't necessarily know based on the context.

    33. Re:Just be careful by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

      How do you know you're googling the right one?

      When I apply for jobs I use a virgin e-mail address from a domain I've only used for job hunts. Sure, you can google on my name, but there are a bunch of us out there.

      How do you differentiate my Usenet posts about computers from the guy with the same name who posts about drugs and politics on other newsgroups?

    34. Re:Just be careful by Pxtl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Terrible example - in many places such practices are legal.

      Now, the difference is when your personal activity they're considering is something totally lawful. For example, lets say your employer is very opinionated Mormon, and thus believes that alcohol is spiritually unhealthy (or is just otherwise rather prudish). They stumble upon your blog, where you describe your last drunken bender with your friends, how you puked up your lungs and were hung over for 2 days. Its all perfectly legal, but many people object to that kind of behaviour - and it's not constitutionally protected like race and suchlike.

      That sort of stuff is none of their business in their professional capacity as an employer. They are perfectly free to ask you about your habits, read about them, whatever - but not to use that as a basis for hiring/review decisions.

    35. Re:Just be careful by norton_I · · Score: 1

      Out of curiosity, what sort of things have influenced your choices? (obviously, without giving too much away...)

    36. Re:Just be careful by Bemmu · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey Larry, stop surfing on Slashdot and get back to work on Oracle 11g.

    37. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was going to be my second example...

      Yeah, that's the ticket...

    38. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently you're a liberal who likes NBA video games...

    39. Re:Just be careful by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 1
      We always 'google' our perspective new-hires. People have been not hired because of the content discovered.
      "We always proofread things that our prospective new-hires have posted on the internet. People have been not hired because their spelling and grammar aren't perfect."

      Still believe that you're using fair screening procedures?

      What someone has said or done on the internet prior to applying for employment with your company is, generally, none of your business. I'll grant that there are possible exceptions. I suppose that if your company has a strict "drug free" policy, and you discover that the applicant runs the local NORML chapter's website (and you're positive that it's the same person), he's probably not the right candidate. If he checked the "No" box next to the "Have you ever been convicted of a felony?" question (which is another rant that I'll save for a later time) but you determine that he's been convicted of a felony - and, again, you're sure that it's the same person - then you're probably right to reject his application.

      But someone's past behavior as recorded online generally should have nothing to do with your hiring decisions, especially if your Google results reflect actions taken outside of a workplace. If I want to get drunk and make tasteless and off-color posts on Fark, that's my business. I damned sure better not find out that anyone has round-filed my resume simply because they found my blog and disagreed with my political commentary, or found posts that I've made on message boards deriding certain companies, or learned that I used to play a certain type of character in a game that they don't like.
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    40. Re:Just be careful by R.Caley · · Score: 1
      We always 'google' our perspective new-hires. People have been not hired because of the content discovered.

      Like use of handwriting recognition, this looks to be a good feature a prosepctive employee can use to determine that the company they are talking to are a load of B-arkers.

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    41. Re:Just be careful by R.Caley · · Score: 1
      Considering his other comments, I'm guessing Microsoft.

      Well, that would make sense. I could well imagine that M$ software is the result of hiring programmers on the basis of their blog content and Usenet postings rather than, say, programming ability and experience.

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    42. Re:Just be careful by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Heh! I thought I'd chime in with the others warning about how useless it is to google somebody's name. Especially in my case as my name is a combination of a verb and a noun. Imagine how hard it was for me to figure out the intended meaning of "Gunmen [my name] Theatre" ... I was missing the verb there for a while, until I realized that my name was the verb and the article wasn't about a person sharing my name at all.

      According to google, I am:

      * the author of a tutorial on bending metal tubes
      * a football player
      * a guy who spent 4 years at Bedales
      * the namesake of a memorial award at some fraternity
      * the president of CUPE local 917
      * vice presedent of SOAS student's union
      * a guy who placed 38/63 in a marathon in 1996.
      * a reverend
      * and at least three photographers.

      Hope this helps ;)

    43. Re:Just be careful by rich_r · · Score: 1

      I don't know about the US, but in the UK convictions are considered 'spent' after a certain amount of time, and thus don't have to be disclosed, except in certain instances- the forces are one, and I believe certain sex offences are exempt.

    44. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should systematically moderate down your posts too.

    45. Re:Just be careful by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      sounds like a good way of getting sued.

      Unless you can determine that the information is from or about the person you are looking at and actually acurate. Google for a "john smith" and you will get a crapload mish-mash.

      Managers that think they are clever by "googling" someone are scary. Typically it takes quite a bit of skill to seperate the information into what you are really after.... People you know well will take days to go through and verify that the information or postings you are reading are in fact your good friends.... and you are telling me that you are an expert in googling information about a complete stranger within a few minutes? So you have a masters degree in forensics and research?

      Anyone that does a casual googling of a person and uses that for anything but personal curiosity is a complete fool.

      I think someone needs send a link of this posting to your HR department... maybe they will teach the managers there some real hiring skills and not violate hiring rules. (isn't that a fireable offense?)

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    46. Re:Just be careful by harikiri · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I started a blog about the goings on at the office a while back, after disatisfaction with my bosses management style, and somewhat dodgy approach ("you want me to do some work for you? What's in it for me?").

      Recently, I've been helping a coworker with getting his personal website up, and have been pointing him to my website as an example. In referring to my website, he later took a look at it one evening, and found the link to my blog about the office, and mentioned it the following day.

      Thankfully, he shares my feelings about what's been going on, so I don't have to worry that much. But the risk suddenly hit home. I straight away removed the link to the blog.

      As I've been involved in my field for a while, I feel confident in saying to recruiters and employers to google for my name, to find references to what I've worked on in the past. However, in doing so, they'll probably discover my postings about the office. As bloggers tend to be a bit more carefree about their postings online, they'll tend to be more open. However, your attitudes may not sit well with the person reviewing your site, and in charge of saying yes or no to hiring you.

      I'm more cautious today as a result.

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    47. Re:Just be careful by zerocool^ · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you misspelled "mmphoorghrmphh"

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    48. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, theres very specific restrictions in most places:

      1) You can only ask about convictions. If a guy was arrested for something then released or found not guilty for any reason, you cannot ask or think about this.

      2) Unless you are hiring for a security clearance, a bonded position, or certain fields related to the conviction (ie, child molestation->daycare center), you can ask about convictions but you aren't "supposed" to consider it in your decision (these days its impossible to prove that they did).

    49. Re:Just be careful by stephenbooth · · Score: 1

      OK, you find that he was jailed for child molestation but a few years later it was found that he was innocent (it happens, we've had a recent rash here in the UK of women who had been jailed for killing their children now being released because of new evidence), perhaps he just fitted the profile and couldn't afford a good enough lawyer. He was released and the official record expunged but you found newspaper stories from time about the trial and mention of his release and the circumstances behind it. You, however, decide "There's no smoke without fire." and so refuse to employ him on the basis of an wrongful accusation.

      Stephen

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    50. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I don't know about the US, but in the UK convictions are considered 'spent' after a certain amount of time

      I wish the US was like that. In most US states once convicted you lose the right to vote for life.

    51. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you've never seen a joke before.

    52. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that, and the fact that you probably don't speak Hindi.

    53. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello, Rob Park.

      How are you doing?

    54. Re:Just be careful by Mark+Hood · · Score: 1

      We always 'google' our perspective new-hires.

      Cool, so I can now add Sound Recording Engineer, Psychology Seminars and speeches, photography and Apple Advocacy & consulting to my Resume...

      Unless of course, you do a check to see if the Google results actually refer to me! (Hint, only one does).

      I trust when you say 'people have been not hired' you mean 'people have been given a chance to confirm if an offensive item on the internet was written by them or not, and if they confirm it, they have not been hired', right? Because someone could sign up to (say) a violent hate-group's online website with your name tomorrow, post incitment, racist tracts, and God knows what else, and the first you'll know of it is when you get fired by some over-zealous HR rep? Please note, this is not a threat! :) Or less disastrously, you could be mistaken for a fat emulsifier...

      Mark Hood
      I'm not former Sierra Online Senior Vice President either.

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    55. Re:Just be careful by The_Fire_Horse · · Score: 0

      Well, I for one welcome our new accident prone skiing, marathon running, baseball playing, policing overloads.

    56. Re:Just be careful by indifferent+children · · Score: 1
      In most US states once convicted you lose the right to vote for life.

      No. In most US states your voting rights are automatically restored when you are released from prison. I don't know if your parole/probation status has any impact on how quickly your rights are restored.

      Florida is one of the few states that does not automatically restore voting rights. You must apply to a state board to get your rights restored (though this seems to be almost always granted).

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    57. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't have any fact checks on this but I know people who haven't been able to vote and they have alredy gone through the hoops.

      Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you lose your rights for life. If not life, at least some long time (and it isn't just when you leave prison)

      Again, I don't have any facts to check on it so I may be wrong.

    58. Re:Just be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't want you working for my company if you would dismiss a perfectly legitimate research tool as "unethical."

    59. Re:Just be careful by Boogaroo · · Score: 1

      Then you wouldn't be basing it on an actual felony record as he was vindicated and it was expunged. A wrongful discrimination suit would probably win in that case.

      As another poster mentioned it does have to be related to the work in some states, but not all.

    60. Re:Just be careful by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Congradulations, but you are not impressive. ;)

      "cupe local 917" was probably the most specific giveaway, but my name is also written plainly on my website if you care to poke in the HTML source. Not to mention that a simple google for "feztaa" reveals my real name pretty quickly.

    61. Re:Just be careful by stephenbooth · · Score: 1

      That's kinda the point I was trying to make.

      Sometimes people seem to get so caught up on the details of an example or analogy that they lose whatever it was about in the first place. I was trying to present a variation of the original example where their objections would be void.

      Here in the UK criminal records checks tend to be limited to roles where employing someone who has been convicted of a specific crime or group of crimes would put someone in danger, so jobs if you were recruting someone to look after children you'd check that they didn't have a record of child abuse &c. Unfortunately checks aren't always done properly, hence the case with Ian Huntley.

      Stephen

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      "Don't write down to your readers, the only people less intelligent than you can't read" - Sign on Newspaper Office Wall
  6. simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do as I do, post as an AC on slashdot, no one will know who is posting illegal info *your under arrest for viola(*&^*%^(&&^(*&^ no carrier

  7. Or don't be a pussy by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If free speech is to mean anything, it must be done with a name and responsibility attached. Anonymous speech is really worthless, consider the quality and substance of AC posts on this site.

    If you have something to say about your company, then say it. Have some balls and do what it takes to make change. Unless you're willing to put your name and reputation on the line, why should anyone take your speech seriously?

    So you have a choice, skulk around in the shadows like you are some kind of lowly criminal looking to the world like you're trying to get away with something, or stand up and post proudly and make a big noise. If you want to be treated like a criminal, then act like one. The EFF has just posted your guidelines. If you want to be treated like a human being with something important to say, then post without fear.

    1. Re:Or don't be a pussy by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thanks for your advice about signing your real name to web posts, Dancin Santa. Is that a Swedish name, or Dutch?

    2. Re:Or don't be a pussy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to agree, its horrialbe that people do things anonymously

    3. Re:Or don't be a pussy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's perfectly possible to build up a good reputation while staying anonymous. On the other hand, lots of public people shouldn't be taken seriously. Anonymity and reputation seem pretty orthogonal to me.

    4. Re:Or don't be a pussy by KingSkippus · · Score: 1

      Post my real name, are you crazy? As if I don't get enough spam, junk mail, and telemarketing calls already!?

    5. Re:Or don't be a pussy by the+pickle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Free speech is great.

      The right to free speech does not extend to your employment unless you have a contract that says it does.

      As has been said a million times before on Slashdot whenever this sort of thing comes up, most U.S. states and many foreign countries have "at-will" employment, meaning your employer keeps paying you money solely because they wish to. They have the right to terminate you at any time, for any reason*, and you do NOT have the right to a job.

      *With reasonable limitations. For instance, it's illegal to fire someone for being gay, or female, or black, or handicapped, etc., in the United States.

      p

    6. Re:Or don't be a pussy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is not possible to build up a good reputation while staying completely anonymous. You can build up a good reputation under a pseudonym that can not easily be traced back to your real identity though. Digital signatures (with your signature not containing information that can identify you personally) can help with this.

    7. Re:Or don't be a pussy by Renraku · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I posted a review about Bellsouth's DSL service and a week later they let me know I was fired for talking bad about them. Even though 90% of the review was good, I just mentioned that I didn't like the CS rep. Never did I say I worked for them.

      --
      Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
    8. Re:Or don't be a pussy by Boogaroo · · Score: 1

      It's perfectly legal to fire someone for being gay in most US states. Sad, but true.

    9. Re:Or don't be a pussy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like slashdot, but not enough to register. You AC bashers are assholes.

    10. Re:Or don't be a pussy by norton_I · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Anonymous opinions are worthless. Anonymous facts are not. Of course, in the real world, the difference between facts and opinions is somewhat blurred, but you can have valuable anonymous speech.

      Obviously it is nice to have an identity attached to information to help determine how credible it is, but even with no faith in the accuracy whatsoever, it can trigger independent research. This is the same as when information comes from a well-known but untrusted source.

      Whenever one of the nut-job religious extremist organizations says anything about sex (birth control, STDs, homosexuality, premarital sex) I assume that their is some grain of truth in it, but has been distorted beyond recognition. However, I usually do further research to determine what the truth is (which is often different than my previous conceptions, even if it bears almost no relation to the tripe spouted by said organization).

    11. Re:Or don't be a pussy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trying to build a reputation is of course an eminently silly passtime for eminently silly people. The silliest have their reputations custom made for them by personal advisers and PR-bureaus.

      Anonymous Coward is the only way to go.

    12. Re:Or don't be a pussy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, I sort of agree except for that first sentence. Opininions based on reputation are just as worthless as the anonymous ones or perhaps even more so because they are based in part on that reputation. Anonymous facts are more valuable because you would be more inclined not to take them at face value and check them.

      One can only keep one's reputation by not making use of it.

    13. Re:Or don't be a pussy by corblix · · Score: 1
      If free speech is to mean anything, it must be done with a name and responsibility attached.

      I somewhat agree. An opinion is worthless without a name attached. So are most factual claims that cannot be checked. And encouraging anonymous posting of such things is generally not going to improve society.

      But independently verifiable facts are different. Consider whistle blowers, for example.

    14. Re:Or don't be a pussy by mutterc · · Score: 1
      Here's the story of a woman who worked for the sheriff's office in Pender County, NC. Her boss, the sheriff, fired her after finding out she was living with a man she was not married to. Apparently this is still illegal in NC (sad, but beside the point, I guess; because of at-will employment, even if it were not illegal, he could still have fired her, simply for not approving of the behavior).

    15. Re:Or don't be a pussy by elpapacito · · Score: 1

      Oh that's interesting, so I guess that the following message

      "Love thy neighbour"

      is valid only because there's Christ Jesus name after it ? Come on, you know you're lying to yourself.

      Unless you're willing to put your name and reputation on the line, why should anyone take your speech seriously?

      Because if you use name and reputation as a meter to evaluate something you'll find a surprise: reputation is often easy to be faked (see Ebay) not mentioning name..in days of identity stealing, names mean little.

      Stand up and post proudly and make a big noise

      No, try saying something that makes sense. Noise is easy to produce, YOU BUMBLING IDIOT ! I just did.

      If you want to be treated like a human being with something important to say, then post without fear

      What a pile of manure ! So you treat human beings like an human being when you find one who is fearless ? HELLO, human beings are full of fears and that's perfectly natural..there's nothing wrong about that. Learning how to cope with fears is far more productive then posting on a blog "without fear" just to prove a bunch of bumbling idiots that you're not scared : because if you do that you actually prove you're SCARED of looking scared to a bunch of morons.

  8. "Free speech" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Applies to restrictions on speech by the government. It does not mean your employer has to allow you to say anything you want about them and still retain your job. Speech can still have real consequences.

    1. Re:"Free speech" by CSMastermind · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well there was a good ac post. Parent is right, speach does have consequences. Still I agree with the /. way of things, if you want credit for something put your name on it. I do think it's important to be able to post without anyone knowing who you are. The same way that you should be able to tip off the police, buy things at the store, and other legal things without having a tag attachted to you and someone tracking you.

  9. How I hide my work identity by bonch · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I do most of the things mentioned in the article in my unnamed blog. For one, I wrote my backend to let me mark certain posts as "restricted" only to certain users, so the public can't even read most of them anyway.

    And two, the evil woman I work with is referred to as "The Demon" in big red letters instead of by her real name. Pseudonyms do indeed rock.

    1. Re:How I hide my work identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because her real last name is Devil, and no one will figure that out.

    2. Re:How I hide my work identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For one, I wrote my backend to let me mark certain posts as "restricted" only to certain users, so the public can't even read most of them anyway.

      Good for you! Better to have the public suspect that you're a fool than to remove all doubt :)

  10. Blogging from the office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't do it!

    It's way too easy for your employer to get any network traffic. My employer had a keylogger installed on one cow-irker's computer. Well, I suppose you could get away with it as long as you only speak in glowing terms about your employer.

    We had a case recently where a bunch of stock brokers were fired (and sued as I recall) because the sms messages they thought were safe; weren't!

    1. Re:Blogging from the office by Rylz · · Score: 1

      One solution to this problem:

      Boot a LiveCD and tunnel a proxy over an SSH connection to your home computer!

      --
      Sometimes you've gotta roll the hard six.
    2. Re:Blogging from the office by CSMastermind · · Score: 1

      Keyloggers and sms messages being tapped. Doesn't sound like a place I'd like to work. Heh then again I remember about two years ago some of my freinds got in trouble (I was lucky not to be around at the time) because win 98 (then installed on some computer labs at the school) had some terminal program (man I forget what it's called now) that we used as an instant messanger to talk to each other across the network. Well one of my freinds screwed up sending a message and broadcast it to the whole school by mistake. Heh, I remember the teachers freaking out about hackers and people going to break into the network for about a week before my freind fessed up.

    3. Re:Blogging from the office by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 1

      I end my frI ends. And yeah, winpopup and netsend lead to death in the public school environment. God knows what would've happened if someone had ever found a real exploit.

    4. Re:Blogging from the office by CSMastermind · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Lol that's so funny that you said that. I disagree with some of the censorship that takes place at our school. We used to have Bess installed but they found out that we were using webproxies to get around it so they switched to Sonicwall (which is terrible...some of my faviorite sites it blocks are: Disney, both the republican and democrat webpages, and classroll, a site we use so kids can check their grades online. Sonicwall was a pain because it was hard to get around. He that's exactly what I did to get around it. :-).

    5. Re:Blogging from the office by Anonymous+Luddite · · Score: 1

      >> We had a case recently where a bunch of stock brokers were fired (and sued as I recall) because the sms messages they thought were safe; weren't!

      Can't find a link, but I know the case AC is talking about.

      The group was looking at quitting to form a company in competition with their employer. They apparently exchanged communication to this end via company supplied blackberries.... D'oh.

      Can't imagine letting a group with such poor judgement handle my investments.

    6. Re:Blogging from the office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My employer had a keylogger installed on one cow-irker's computer.
      Serves him right. He'd better leave those cows alone from now on!

  11. Online pseudonyms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If someone spends a lot of time online under a certain pseudonym, to such an extent that he (and it's always a "he") earns a reputation and is known as a certain persona under that "fake" name, how is that any different than from posting under his real name?

    On the internet, no one knows you're a dog. Just because someone's posting under what appears to be their real name, there is no guarantee either way. The pseudonym is just as good, if not better than the "real" name. It, at least, doesn't try to fool you into thinking that the poster is someone else.

    1. Re:Online pseudonyms by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      Does your resume have a section for handles you've used online? Does your McDonalds name tag say "Anonymous Coward"?

      --
      Do you even lift?

      These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

    2. Re:Online pseudonyms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Should it?

      If my online persona is completely different from my offline persona, should the two be forcibly connected?

      Under a pseudonym, what you see is what you get. IRL, the same is true. Do you think the trolls here on Slashdot are all social misfits?

    3. Re:Online pseudonyms by CSMastermind · · Score: 1

      oo Um I'm not sure about living double lives but if your online persona will affect your work...then yes. Otherwise, no.

    4. Re:Online pseudonyms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not personally, but there are people who do (or at least should if they don't) because that name is associated with their reputation... eg. Rasterman

  12. Anonymity inversely proportional to value by istartedi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't see how you can stay anonymous and say anything really interesting about your office. Of course you can say "my office has cubes" and nobody will smell you out, but if you say "I know all about the shape of the new iMac" there are only a few people that could have known that, and they will figure you out. Certainly there are variations within those two extremes, but the more unique and valuable your knowledge, the more likely they are to nail you.

    --
    For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
    1. Re:Anonymity inversely proportional to value by MoralHazard · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think it's possible for anonymous people to write entertaining things about their own offices precisely BECAUSE so many offices are similar. Readers will relate to the funny, frustrating, and uplifting events that the blogger relates.

      Consider how popular office-related sitcoms can be, even if they're pretty generic: "The Drew Carey Show" and "The Office" come to mind, and there are tons more. The point of the humor in these shows isn't anything about that particular office, but about offices in general, bosses in general, and coworkers in general.

      One of my ex-girlfriends pens a hilarious, utterly anonymous blog about life as a paralegal at a midtown NYC white-collar criminal defense firm. She does about 2-3 posts a week, on average. Reading the blog, though, you can't even tell it's a law office, because she has to be careful (partly the legal issues, but mostly office politics). And yet, she has more than 100 regular unique readers, and gets dozens of comments on most posts.

      It helps that she's an incredibly funny writer, with more than a little training and talent for prose, but that makes sense, right?

      And seriously, I mean SERIOUSLY: Isn't "Office Space" one of the goddamned funnist movies you've ever seen?

    2. Re:Anonymity inversely proportional to value by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      Midtown NYC white-collar criminal defense firm.

      I'm betting there are less than two dozen of those. From the details of her blog, I doubt it would be hard to discern her true identity.

    3. Re:Anonymity inversely proportional to value by MoralHazard · · Score: 1

      Actually, there are at least 100 law firms fitting that description, that I'm familiar with/have done business with, anyway. It's kind of a happening practice area, these days.

      I'm tempted to post a link to the blog and let you give a second opinion, but I'd rather not put Slashdot up to the task en masse. Because I'm sure that she CAN be found out, given time and effort, by an interested-enough party.

      I disagree with you about how easy it would be--I just scanned the last 10 postings or so, and there's nothing in the blog details that are particularly specific. She's quite careful about anonymizing, with names and places and such.

  13. i2p anonymous blogging. by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not sure if I2P has been mentioned in any of the slashdot headlines yet.. most likely in a month or two after the UDP transport has been implemented and most of the bugs ironed out.

    I2P is basically the network layer anonymized, apps like apache/jabber/irc/etc work fine over it with sometimes only minor mods (to ensure anonymity is preserved.) And no, it's not freenet replacement as some have thought.. different beasts they are.

    I'd plug my own eepsite but that would defeat the purpose of using i2p wouldn't it....

  14. +5, informative. by Oliver+Defacszio · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't use your real name? Don't mention the name of the place at which you work? Wow! I should be writing all of this down, right next to my "How Not To Drown While Doing Dishes" instructional.

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    Inventor of the term 'pardon my French'.
  15. They forgot one other method.... by russotto · · Score: 0, Troll

    Frame someone else. Set up a proxy server on a cow-orkers computer, and use THAT to blog about your employer, who you can name. Include personal details -- theirs. Bad mouth anyone you want. But be sure and not do it while the cow-orker is not at work, and make sure you have a way of removing the proxy (passively would be best) if someone might be catching on.

    1. Re:They forgot one other method.... by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      There should be a new moderation type: (+infinity) Evil.

    2. Re:They forgot one other method.... by Justin205 · · Score: 1

      I think you've read too much BOFH...

      Ah, what am I saying? There's no such thing!

      --
      "Your effort to remain what you are is what limits you."
  16. +5 Insightful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because, you know, sexist insults are so funny.

    Next up on Slashdot, some pundit telling others not to be lazy Mexicans. Wonder why that is...

  17. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  18. cue the subpoenas by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Cue the subpoenas. :)

    Googling someone does not a background check make. If you googled my name you might get the impression that I'm an Irish athlete and mountain climber. Not so.

    Forget google.

    You need to do a background investigation on your hires - criminal and civil - check job history, references, and do a skills assessment.

    I don't care if someone mouthed off on Slashdot, Boing Boing, The Well, or wherever. I care about whether or not I can trust them to do the job and play well with others. Googling someone won't tell you these things.

    1. Re:cue the subpoenas by Threni · · Score: 1

      Clearly he cares. You can't find out via police checks whether someone lacks the wit or wisdom to keep quiet about stuff that may harm the companies ability to profit. Sure, you have the right to freedom of expression (at the moment), but that doesn't mean you are safe to state how much of a mess your company makes of managing its customers, for example.

    2. Re:cue the subpoenas by ErikRed1488 · · Score: 1
      If you googled my name you might get the impression that I'm an Irish athlete and mountain climber. Not so.

      Sure, there might be five people with your name that have some online presence, but it's still fairly easy to tell which one is you. For example, if you Googled my real name, you'd find stuff about twenty random people in another country, and a lot of posts to Microsoft newsgroups. Since I live in the USA, it's pretty easy to figure out the I'm the "me" who posts to those newsgroups.

      --
      I was not touched there by an angel.
    3. Re:cue the subpoenas by Voxus · · Score: 1

      My personal name is getting quite popular online. Mostly among junior high football players, it seems.

  19. Why the fuck? by EvilCabbage · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about a guide to using some common sense?

    I blog my ass off, but I sure as shit don't mention anything I shouldn't. I know the limits of the law in my area and what I could potentially get in the shit over. Occasionally I tread a pretty fine line between kosher and not-so-kosher (a recent issue over feral animals comes to mind), but I know where the line is that you just shouldn't step over.

    What's so hard about just not being a dumb-ass these days? If you want to keep your job, don't blog about work. Simple.

    1. Re:Why the fuck? by Otter · · Score: 1
      In my case, I have a job that treats me well and gives me interesting work to do. So I don't think it's a huge imposition on me when I err on the side of not posting anything from work, or in accounts like this where I post from work at other times, that might create trouble.

      In general, I don't get the mentality that there's an obligation to get away with every last shred that you can. I don't need my bosses reading about clever new ways to screw with me without suffering consequences, so why can't I show them the same courtesy?

    2. Re:Why the fuck? by l-ascorbic · · Score: 1
      Occasionally I tread a pretty fine line between kosher and not-so-kosher (a recent issue over feral animals comes to mind), but I know where the line is that you just shouldn't step over.
      If you insist on raping badgers you deserve all you get. Dear god, man! Have some self-respect!
    3. Re:Why the fuck? by node+3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I know where the line is that you just shouldn't step over.

      Excellent reasoning, citizen! Remember, don't rock the boat--those in power don't like it when you do. Posting anonymously is an act of subversion!

      Always obey the wishes of those in power, for they are never wrong.

      EvilCabbage, you are truly an inspiration to all your brothers and sisters in the Party.

    4. Re:Why the fuck? by shawnce · · Score: 1

      You may want to learn more about the concept not only personal but professional ethics... which are not legal based.

    5. Re:Why the fuck? by node+3 · · Score: 1

      You may want to learn more about the concept not only personal but professional ethics... which are not legal based.

      What's that got to do with the subject at hand? Where did I say it was legal, and therefor OK?

      If your employer is engaged in unethical activities, what possible convoluted system of ethics could state that you must keep your mouth shut? Those are the ethics of the oppressed, or of the complicant.

    6. Re:Why the fuck? by johnny_sas · · Score: 1
      What's that got to do with the subject at hand? Where did I say it was legal, and therefor OK?
      What? Don't like people stuffing words down your throat? Hypocrite.
    7. Re:Why the fuck? by node+3 · · Score: 1

      I'm only going to reply to your trolls this once. If I don't reply any further, it means I think you're clearly just being an ass, and not actually trying to engage in useful or productive conversation. Please feel free to prove me wrong--I'd be happy if you would. I implore you, put forth a reasoned, rational, and civil response (as I have done for you).

      What?

      I asked in this post for the guy to clarify how he got from A to B, and gave him actual reasons why he's wrong.

      Don't like people stuffing words down your throat?

      Please point out where I got pissed off there? I'm actually trying to clarify the point, not get all huffy.

      Hypocrite.

      Not at all.

      Now, if you have nothing useful to add, good day.

  20. It's easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just tick "Post Anonymously"

  21. Re:Or not.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it depress you that you have to sacrifice your principles in order to make your living?

    As for anonymous speech leading to revolutions, remember that it is always real people who shed their blood on the front lines of these revolutions. It is not the anonymous blowhards that risk it all, but rather the ones who put everything at stake for their principles.

  22. Mod up(But not "Funny") by mp3phish · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    How on earth do you mod this funny? It is not only a serious point, but in no way is it funny. Mod must be smoking dank. Too right wing to be smoking swag.

    --
    Your ignorance is infinitely greater than you realize.
  23. Maturity rather than Anonymnity by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The whiners who make up details about their boss, give away corporate secrets, or try to attack someone in an unfair manner are what should stop. There are many people's weblog entries I've read where they sound like spoiled brats. Comments and trackbacks indicate that they're writing this out of a self-esteem problem or just a nasty streak of insanity.

    But there are many ways to write a negative web log that still tries to be completely fair and see things from the other person's point of view. I read a number of these (I actually started reading their logs for some tech project they were on but kept on after finding out that they have lives that don't revolve around first person shooters). They seem to write out of a need to get some sort of honesty about what's going on.

    One fellow in particular that I enjoy reading writes about his boss, problem clients, assertive sex partners, and demanding family members. He's fun to read because he's figured out that in most cases he is the "problem" rather than all of these people he writes about. He is, after all, the only common link between all of these problematic things. When he writes about a stressful change at work he's not bitching about "the worst decision his boss ever made" but rather "a change his boss made that eluded his understanding".

    If I were a future employer and came across his blog, the level of maturity he displayed would go a lot further than whether he mentioned someone by name. Not everyone's that way, but jeez, if you are completely anonymous writing stuff seems like a waste of time.

    If you want to leak a secret wrongdoing, send it to a reporter's email address. If you want to write about your stresses and successes, do so in a mature way. If you want to bitch and moan and try to assasinate someone's integrity, be prepared to take the consequences for your juvenile tantrums.

    1. Re:Maturity rather than Anonymnity by nb+caffeine · · Score: 1

      Wow, that sounds interesting, like a blog that i would actually read. Care to link me up?

      --

      "Something's wrong with you...and I hope we never do meet again." - Deftones When Girls Telephone Boys
    2. Re:Maturity rather than Anonymnity by John+Seminal · · Score: 1, Insightful
      The whiners who make up details about their boss, give away corporate secrets, or try to attack someone in an unfair manner are what should stop. There are many people's weblog entries I've read where they sound like spoiled brats.

      And you are the one to judge people's words? Let me get this 100% right. If you don't like what I say, then you can deprive me of my livelyhood? It must suck to be a capatalist in North Korea. Or pro-Tiwan in China. Or a socalist in the USA.

      But there are many ways to write a negative web log that still tries to be completely fair and see things from the other person's point of view.

      Fuck them. I don't want to see it from thier point of view. I want to vent.

      One fellow in particular that I enjoy reading writes about his boss, problem clients, assertive sex partners, and demanding family members. He's fun to read because he's figured out that in most cases he is the "problem" rather than all of these people he writes about. He is, after all, the only common link between all of these problematic things. When he writes about a stressful change at work he's not bitching about "the worst decision his boss ever made" but rather "a change his boss made that eluded his understanding".

      Your elude my understanding. :p

      If you want to leak a secret wrongdoing, send it to a reporter's email address.

      Dan Rather, You've got mail!

      In all seriousness, we can't regulate free speech, no matter how fucked up it sounds. I strike that, we can, in some instances like when someone wants to blow shit up, or post naked pictures of your wife or sister. But when somoene wants to say how society is unfair, bad, backwards, blah blah blah, that is 100% protected free speech. And depriving someone of work is a millenium old way of killing people, better than jail or beatings. You make them lose their homes, their method of transportation, their ability to socalize. You turn them into a more bitter hermit.

      --

      Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."

    3. Re:Maturity rather than Anonymnity by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      And you are the one to judge people's words? Let me get this 100% right. If you don't like what I say, then you can deprive me of my livelyhood? It must suck to be a capatalist in North Korea. Or pro-Tiwan in China. Or a socalist in the USA.

      Er. If I went around the office posting notices that my boss is an asshole, I'd expect to be fired. If I put the same message on a billboard across the street...I'd still expect to be fired. The fact is, most terminations aren't the result of incompetence--they are a consequence of interpersonal issues. If I were a manager, I'm not sure if I would want to work with someone who goes around calling me a jerk behind my back. I wouldn't want to continue to employ someone who felt I deserved insults and abuse, and who saw fit to post that for the world to see.

      Similarly, posting trade or other corporate secrets online strikes me as a likely breach of an employment contract, or at least a gross lapse in etiquette. Again, I'd expect to be fired if I did that.

      The grandparent poster didn't say anything about people fired for their political views--and I suspect that courts in the U.S. might tend to take a dimmer view of such actions by employers. Regardless, such cases seem to be in the minority of blog-related firings...at least among the stories that make it to Slashdot.

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      ~Idarubicin
    4. Re:Maturity rather than Anonymnity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, wouldn't it totally suck if we had a world where the only time people were fired was because they did a poor job? I mean, companies would be staffed with competent (if perhaps arrogant) employees who got the job done on time, instead of being full of brown nosing sycophants who can't do a lick of work, but are great at licking someting else...

      Why should employees have to put up with their boss trying to turn the workplace into some sick parody of "Survivor", where instead of solving puzzles and completing tasks for immunity you have to rat out co-workers and play the "politics" game?

    5. Re:Maturity rather than Anonymnity by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I thought about posting a link to the blog in question... but then I remembered that I'm writing an posting for slashdot users. :-)

      Linking to the actual blog would probably distract from my point. People would argue "You find that interesting?!?!?" or "Gosh, back on December 26th 2003 the author didn't seem quite as mature as you are describing." The fact that I find the blog to be interesting and mature are my personal opinions and would likely incite harsher, off-topic discussion about this fellow.

      If I remember, I'll try and add a followup post in a week with the blog but for now talking about the archetype probably suits the discussion better.

    6. Re:Maturity rather than Anonymnity by stephenbooth · · Score: 1

      Here in the UK most employment contracts (certainly all the ones I've had so that's 5 in the last 11 years, both public and private sector) have a clause whereby doing anything that is or causes negative publicity for the employer is an instant dismissal offense. Mentioning your employer by name in your blog negatively falls under this. It's also been used to sack employees convicted of minor criminal offenses that have been reported in the local newspaper and even one case (a friend of mine) where they were getting a divorce, the justification being that they worked for a dating service and it was contrary to the image of the company to employ divorced people.

      Stephen

      --
      "Don't write down to your readers, the only people less intelligent than you can't read" - Sign on Newspaper Office Wall
    7. Re:Maturity rather than Anonymnity by Idarubicin · · Score: 1
      Man, wouldn't it totally suck if we had a world where the only time people were fired was because they did a poor job? I mean, companies would be staffed with competent (if perhaps arrogant) employees who got the job done on time, instead of being full of brown nosing sycophants who can't do a lick of work, but are great at licking someting else...

      It occurs to me that "getting along with coworkers" and "not releasing trade secrets on the 'net" might actually be reasonable job requirements....

      Believe it or not, there are workers who are highly competent and capable of getting along with others. They make the entire workplace more productive because they do their work and they don't backstab and badmouth everybody else. Go figure.

      --
      ~Idarubicin
    8. Re:Maturity rather than Anonymnity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not everyone's that way, but jeez, if you are completely anonymous writing stuff seems like a waste of time.

      I agree. Totally.

    9. Re:Maturity rather than Anonymnity by elpapacito · · Score: 1

      But there are many ways to write a negative web log that still tries to be completely fair and see things from the other person's point of view

      Usually , at least in my experience, the best way to know how another person see things or situation is the following: ASK THEM. Trying to figure out one person point of view is extremely difficult as to do it perfectly would require actually being the other person, which is not possible. Therefore it follows that we must be very cautious and remember that we just can't assume to know exactly how the other person feels about something or sees something.

      Well of course we could, but the result wouldn't be as good as just asking them.

      He is, after all, the only common link between all of these problematic things.

      Well let me stress the fact that he is necessarily a common link, it's actually obvious. He is the one who is feeling ALL his own problems because...well because he obviously feels all of them because he's part of all of them, but he isn't necessarily the spark who started the fire, so to say. My guess is that you were trying to say that he somehow realized (or think he realized) that he is _the source_ of all his problems..is that what you meant ? Because if it is so, it sometimes happens with some people that (after realizing that there was something in their behavior acting as an obstacle or con-cause of a number of problems) try to first look at self to find a source for a problem, when the problem is quite evidently under not them (to an external impartial observer)....yet they feel reassured and re-empowered when they find that somehow the problem was in them, because that gives them the power to try to change themselves and solve the problem.

      In other words, some people like to think they just need to change themselves to achieve something, including solving a problem.

      This tirade was sparked by the sensation that you were attacking anonymity because you fear anonymous attacks, as opposed to
      attacks coming from a person you can identify and strike back at, maybe for instance by questioning their moral standing or maybe
      by just sucker punch them...or by firing them.

      I suggest you concentrare on the message rather then on the messenger...and watch out for divisive strategies like that of inciting
      dissent between employees to better control them.

    10. Re:Maturity rather than Anonymnity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This blog you describe sounds like a good read. Can you post the link please??

  24. Surprisingly chilling advice from EFF by loggia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While there are some good tips in EFF's suggestions, the guide is alarming in its willingness to chill free speech.

    By the time you finish following all the guidelines, there would be little point in writing at all.

    The best advice surely is to consider that you may lose your job for voicing your opinion -- and that as the EFF points out, a little bit of vagueness will generally not be enough to hide your identity.

    Beyond that, weigh seriously the importance of your job versus the importance of publishing your thoughts.

    1. Re:Surprisingly chilling advice from EFF by MoralHazard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Free speech" is a nice little term that gets bandied far too often in a nonsensical way, by people who don't think about rights concepts in a particularly rigorous way.

      If an employer's decision to censure or fire an employee based on work-related blogging is an infringement of free speech, then what about a person/group who decides to boycott a company because they disagree with that company's decisions? Or how about when there's a demonstration outside my window and I shut the window because I don't agree with them and don't want to hear it?

      "Free speech" becomes an *abusive* concept when you deprive people of their rights to avoid associating with people they don't like, or to take otherwise legal actions (like not shopping at a particular store) based on their opinons about an entity. After all, isn't the constitutional guarantee of freedom of association embedded in the exact same amendment as the right to free speech?

      "Free speech" cannot mean "speech without consequences from anyone". That would just be silly. I'll say what I want, and you'll decide whether you want to associate with me based on how you feel about it.

    2. Re:Surprisingly chilling advice from EFF by wintermute.turing.ai · · Score: 1

      I wrote the following to the publicist whose name was attached to that column. I thought it was horse shit to be honest, and the only informed sanity was the end of the guide that outlined the legalities of certain topics. Either way, here go my comments: --- Subject: Comments on "Blog without getting burned" Date: April 7, 2005 11:16:33 PM MDT To: annalee@eff.org Good evening, Since you were the listed press contact for the release, I thought I was wondering if I could ask you who wrote the aforementioned article? If possible, would you be willing to forward this letter to the writer(s)? I'd like their reply, as the article does not typically reflect the proactive approach that the EFF typically takes with issues of "freer" speech. --- In fact, I think the 'guide' is precisely what I would expect from the large corporate entities that have prompted a response to bloggers: how can we effectively silence those who could do public harm to our company? Now, the writer might say "But if you blog anonymously, you're not silent!" Is that really the case? Let's review the 'lessons' that the EFF eschews in this approach: 1. To what extent should a writer dilute their commentary on life in order to protect their income? Why write a blog in the first place? If weblog writing has something to do with interpersonal meaning, universality, humour, lifeworlds, etc -- what is the point of authorship if its detached from the very life it intends to capture? What responsibility does the author have to his or her work when the writing is invented, and their name is unattached? That is silence in the worst way, like speaking one's own language. The approach you offer is not web-Logging anymore, it is Fantasy writing and an act of 'bad faith'. 2. This just makes plain sense. 3. Passwording a blog is fine for those who do use it to write only to a select few -- but is that really what the EFF wants to promote? In the battle between bloggers and the corporate media over readership and viewership, you're making your choice quite obvious. Have a little vision in your statements -- every decision has its consequences, and most are long-term in nature. These consequences are emergent, and not prescribed in the decision itself. 4. Again -- if your blog is an active source of news for many people, the solution is not to deny its existence. You're promoting a society worse than Orwell's '1984' -- people are not centrally controlled by 'Big Brother' anymore -- they now censor themselves in fear of him! (see Fouceault's Panopticon for another metaphor). This entire article fear mongers a panic that promotes economic servitude in the face of quality of life, right to free speech, and a thousand other rights and dignities that make life worth living. Nobody has to pay attention to your article, but when it comes from the EFF -- people are bound to listen, and you have an ethical duty to provide bloggers with facts; not conservatist-informed conjecture on what people should or should not do. Of course, the obvious reply is "But we just want to offer people another way to do things." Perhaps you should offer a better way for people to do things, because this one isn't worth a lot. The only part of this article worth anything are the possible legal ramifications of blogging. Forgive the passion of the letter, however I have an ethical duty to offer alternatives to what I think amounts to bad journalism -- something the EFF is not known for, and certainly something not looked-for from their supporters. Ask yourself this -- would you trust your own press releases if they were signed "anonymous"? With Regards, Chris B. Lepine University of Alberta Department of Psychology

    3. Re:Surprisingly chilling advice from EFF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ""Free speech" cannot mean "speech without consequences from anyone". That would just be silly."

      That's free speech in the old Athenian style. As a politician, if you couldn't handle all the slander, you were quite obviously not hardy enough to be a politician. They also were expected to sit in the front row of plays which openly insulted them, so depraved in their use of word that they haven't had truely literal translations until a few years ago. And they were expected to laugh.

      Athenian free speech seems good to me. Nobody's going to believe anything outrageous if it's not backed up with solid evidence. To be honest, I think the current crop of politicians could do with a good kick up the arse when they mess up, as opposed to their subordinates or intelligence advisors :-)

    4. Re:Surprisingly chilling advice from EFF by JonToycrafter · · Score: 1

      I may agree with you in theory, but keep in mind that the Supreme Court disagrees.

      In the late 80's, someone brought suit against the city of Washington DC, claiming that he had a right to not hear the radio broadcasts on the public city buses. He made the argument that the First Amendment should be interpreted to mean that he shouldn't be forced to hear others' speech. I can find the citation when I'm not at work if you care.

      Point being, I may have a lot of qualms with the SCOTUS, but I have a hard time saying they don't think about rights concepts in a particularly rigorous way, and I wouldn't presume my framework is the only one a rigorous thinker can hold.

      Furthermore, there are lots of reasons to want to blog anonymously about my employer that have nothing to do with free speech (avoiding illegal retaliation is a good enough reason for me - whistleblowers, union organizers, and many others would agree).

      There are also plenty of reasons to blog anonymously that ARE free speech issues - people get illegally arrested and/or beaten all the time based on the content of their speech by the police and vigilantes - it's happened to me often enough. It hasn't happened to me personally for what I've said online, but I could name acquaintances for whom that's not true.

  25. Re:Think about it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take it further. Commander is a fairly significant rank. So, you could say he's the biggest around Slashdot.

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  27. Re:Depressed? Not so much. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was leaning more towards the tradeoff between something like whistleblowing vs. doing something illegal/immoral in regards to your company. If you were working for a medical device company and new that the reported failure rate of a certain life-critical device was much lower than the actual rate, would you (having already exhausted all other options) stand up and report it to the press or would you shut up and collect your paycheck at the end of the week?

  28. ah, but! by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

    Libel is so much more fun.

    I assume that most people who don't want to get caught for their work related blogging are writing something questionable, if not downright illegal.

    Trade secrets, rumors, lies... it's easy to forget that most of the things you think about your boss isn't true and that the company isn't really going under (like you wish). Not that being anonymous is equal to lying. I see your points but the statement "If you want to be treated like a criminal, then act like one" always scares me. Often I hear this argument applied to the way people dress, you know?

    But, any advice for bloggers who are not worried about their employer but their federal governement?

  29. Pseudonymity by backslashdot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Advice to Chinese dissidents: If you are going to be anonymous, use a pseudonym and digitally sign your stuff .. so that others know it's actually you and/or your dissident group .. that way you can build credibility with a reduced chance of being screwed.

    Being totally anonymous isn't very effective, unless what you are saying can really stand on it's own (that is, it's stating provable logic rather than facts/events).

  30. Re:Or not.... by mp3phish · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Snap back into reality and you realize that almost nobody is capable of making a decent living and maintain 100% of their principles. The society we live in generates the opposite.

    It isn't human nature. It is the system we live in. Until that system might change you will always have the problem where your reputation in the business world changes significantly simply because you stand behind what is right. You see, there are too many potential haters out there which have the power to (and will!) ring your neck on a whim simply because they are religiously or politically against your ideas. The repurcussions(sp?) are limitless.

    --
    Your ignorance is infinitely greater than you realize.
  31. Re:Extremity of the premium for maximizing anonymi by Phil+Urich · · Score: 1

    hah, I didn't get it for a second, then I went, "oh, hey . . ."

    Some say this is off-topic, but it's actually quite related, albeit in a disguised way (though I suppose here, off-topic covers anything not absolutely on topic, things aren't allowed to be merely related, oh well).

    --
    I remember sigs. Oh, a simpler time!
  32. Ben Franklin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ben Franklin used the pseudonym "Silence Dogood" when he was young and writing to newspapers. He pretended he was an old lady, and actually got marriage proposals too.

  33. That's against the law by John+Seminal · · Score: 5, Interesting
    We always 'google' our perspective new-hires. People have been not hired because of the content discovered.

    You can't lawfully do that. If someone found out, they could sue you and whoever posted the information for defimation. It is the reason why former employers never can say anything bad about a former employees.

    Likewise, my personal opinions have nothing to do with my ability to do a job. Googeling to find out what political party a person belongs to, their world views, and the like is a bad practice. I know of a guy who sued a company because they asked for his social security number on an application, then did not offer him work. According to state law, that is illegal. The only reason to ask for a social security number is to pay taxes, and an employer that asks for it is implying they have offered you a job. Same thing goes for asking about marital status, or age.

    People should know thier rights and sue when violated. Otherwise corporations will keep crapping on people, paying less money, forcing people to get work as contractors, hiring temps, and the like. It all means the death of good paying jobs with health care and job security.

    --

    Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."

    1. Re:That's against the law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, come join us over here where we are discussing the legality of this practice.

    2. Re:That's against the law by norton_I · · Score: 4, Interesting
      You can't lawfully do that. If someone found out, they could sue you and whoever posted the information for defimation. It is the reason why former employers never can say anything bad about a former employees.


      Only if the information is false. The truth is an absolute defense against all defamation and libel suits. Even so, I doubt the prospective employer can be held accountable in most cases. However, a person (or former employer) saying something bad that is false (or not provably true) about someone, which causes them to not get hired is definately actionable.

      Now, there are certain types of information which you are not allowed to make hiring decisions on, but those are a specifically enumerated list (age, race, sex, religion, marital status, intent to have children, medical conditions, etc.). Asking about those on a job application is illegal, and if you can show that a prospective employer found this information on Google and probably used it to discriminate against you, then you have a suit.

      If, however, I use google to find a web page you wrote 5 years ago about how you hate puppies, and do not hire you, I am almost certain that is legal. I have a friend who was essentially fired for not cutting his hair (he was an hourly employee and they refused to schedule him any hours until he cut it). There is no legal recourse unless you can claim that the discrimination falls under one of the recognized and protected categories (ie. "my religion prevents me from cutting my hair").

      Also, consider that you can be denied employment for refusing or failing a drug test, even though your guild has not been legally proven. I personally think this is a travesty, but it is not illegal.
    3. Re:That's against the law by stephenbooth · · Score: 1
      Only if the information is false. The truth is an absolute defense against all defamation and libel suits. Even so, I doubt the prospective employer can be held accountable in most cases. However, a person (or former employer) saying something bad that is false (or not provably true) about someone, which causes them to not get hired is definately actionable.

      Not in Europe it's not, I've been told it's not in the US either. If you reveal information about some one and are sued for defamation there are only four defenses available to you.

      1. It wasn't you. Obviously if you can prove that then you're in the clear.
      2. That the information was already public knowledge. You'd probably have to produce newspaper articles or similar material pre-dating your publication.
      3. The release was in the public interest and there is a reasonable belief that the information is true. If you published an article about how your neighbour was having an affir with his pool boy then you could be sued for defamation, if you published the same about George W. Bush Jnr then you'd be found not guilty.
      4. You can show that the publication was not intended to be defamatory and there was no reasonable expectation that it would be. This basically covers misunderstandings.

      Stephen

      --
      "Don't write down to your readers, the only people less intelligent than you can't read" - Sign on Newspaper Office Wall
    4. Re:That's against the law by squiggleslash · · Score: 1
      The truth is an absolute defense against all defamation and libel suits
      This depends on the juristiction. For example, in Britain it can be false depending on what's implied by the allegation.

      For example, if I were to call {Major Public Figure} a serial liar who cannot be trusted in the UK, the chances are I'd be successfully sued for libel if my "defense" was "But he does, your honour! Why, I heard that he used to lie about his homework when he was at school, and the other day he sprung a surprise birthday party on his wife, after telling her for several days previous that he'd be in Europe that day and she should "go to his office" to collect something he forgot. In reality, he didn't forget anything, and he was in the office! What a liar! And look, I have a long list of similar lies he's told in the past!"

      The good news is that if I tried to pull such a stunt, I could probably recover the legal fees and fines by working in the marketing department of a US telephone company. ;-)

      On a seperate note, the political weekly The New Statesman and Society was successfully sued in the early nineties for publishing an article saying John Major, the then PM, was not having an affair with his cook. In case you think "Aha! Most people would have read that as being sarcasm, and thought the opposite!", the context was an article that was talking about media rumours and how any old lie can get talked about amongst journalists with subtle mentions appearing in print. One such rumour was that the PM was having an affair, with the NS&S mentioning this, pointing out the absurdity of the thing.

      And, by the way, that means I'm eligible for a lawsuit now too, if John Major gives a s--- about some pseudonymously posted comment in a US journal. Nice, huh?

      --
      You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
    5. Re:That's against the law by Ratbert42 · · Score: 1
      You can't lawfully do that.

      Yes, you can. "Asshole" is not a protected class of people. Now, if we decided not to hire someone because I found out about medical problems, a divorce, their religion, etc., then they'd have a case. But if someone has had raging flamewars on usenet, then I have to question their ability to get along with the collection of jerks we have here. And if they're posting with their own name since Dejanews came along, I have to question their intelligence / sanity. Personally, I've scrubbed as many of my postings as I can from Google Groups (and Deja before that). I got lucky in a way because someone with the same name became a minor international news item a few years ago so searching for me by name is now much harder.

    6. Re:That's against the law by cyberformer · · Score: 1

      You're unlikely to get sued. John Major has since admitted that he really was having an affair, though not with his cook.

    7. Re:That's against the law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> I have a friend who was essentially fired for not cutting his hair (he was an hourly employee and they refused to schedule him any hours until he cut it).

      Were women working in similar positions asked to cut their hair?

    8. Re:That's against the law by norton_I · · Score: 1

      I don't believe so. It turns out that this is still not enough to sue someone for. You are allowed to have different standards for appearance for men and women. You can also prohibit men from wearing skirts, or if you really wanted to, women from wearing pants.

      In practice, (I am not sure what the legal precedent on this is) it is easier to discriminate on such bases when you are working in a service job (he was a checker at a grocery store). Their claim was that they and their customers demanded a professional appearance and that men with long hair did not fit that. It is also possible that it was just him (he had the standard, nasty "CS hair" that so many nerds have at one point in their life).

      Another grocery store in town would not hire people with visible body art except for girls with 2 earings. Same story.

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  35. Do you know it's about them? by assassinator42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How do you know the search results pertain to your prospective employee? Both of the search results I get when I search for my name in quotes are about someone else with the same name as me. I believe he also happens to live pretty close to me.

    1. Re:Do you know it's about them? by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      I googled your name and clearly got quite a few results that were you. Obviously you're lying. That or posting under someone elses account.

    2. Re:Do you know it's about them? by assassinator42 · · Score: 1

      I meant my real name.

    3. Re:Do you know it's about them? by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      That wooshing sound is the joke going over your head ;)

  36. Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by rebeka+thomas · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The point is that anyone can eventually find your blog if your real identity is tied to it in some way. And there may be consequences. Family members may be shocked or upset when they read your uncensored thoughts. A potential boss may think twice about hiring you. But these concerns shouldn't stop you from writing. Instead, they should inspire you to keep your blog private, or accessible only to certain trusted people.

    What tripe. What complete unadulterated tripe. Breeding a group of people who are convinced they're doing their thing for the world, yet who write anonymously behind the safety of a pseudonym or "Anonymous Coward" moniker?

    Get some integrity people, and write with your real names. Stand up for what you believe in and put your name next to your thoughts.

    Or are they not really thoughts worth standing up for?

    --
    RST
    1. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought you were talking about me for a second. Relief.

    2. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by rebeka+thomas · · Score: 1

      Nah, I had another anonymous coward in mind sorry.

      --
      RST
    3. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where in that quote does it say to write anonymously in your blog?

    4. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by daigu · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ever hear of Deep Throat and Watergate? It doesn't take much imagination to think of scenarios where disclosiing your name is not an option and the alternative to being anonymous is being silent. You appear to be in confortable circumstances where this isn't an issue. Not everyone is so fortunate.

    5. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah but if you write your real name then google will remember what you said - rebeka:- http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:rmxPKhPYIWkJ: www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/rhod/1999/nov99-c.html+reb eka+thomas&hl=en

    6. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Aggrav8d · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I feel the same way (about being open and honest), but then I have to remind myself that the world is mostly cowards trying to get in the way. Standing by your principles is a hard thing to do. I won't bother asking if you're genuine or hypocritical because it doesn't matter. What does matter is: what's wrong with being anonymous? If it helps people who are less courageous to speak up then isn't it a positive thing? All you've done is rail them without explaining why you think it's a bad thing.

    7. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Aggrav8d · · Score: 1

      Addendum: being a hypocrite or lacking integrity doesn't matter as long as what you say has merit. I mean Nazi scientists said that eating healthy and exercising was a good thing. Should we stop doing those things because they were evil? Does it make what they say any less true? So what if someone blogs anonymously, as long as they speak truth?

    8. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by node+3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Heya, Beka... What if you've been raped by your dad and you want to let people know about the hell it's put you through, but you don't want all the attention and bs you'll have to deal with if you post it under your real name?

      What if you work for a government agency, or corporate entity, etc, that is engaged in all sorts of chicanery? Would you post with your real name, and be fired on the spot, or would you post anonymously so you can be a "voice from the inside"?

      What if you are an atheist in a strictly Muslim country? Or a drug user in a country currently engaged in a "War on Drugs"?

      What tripe. What complete unadulterated tripe.

      Empty words, since you didn't back up your opinion with any logic or reasoning.

      Or are they not really thoughts worth standing up for?

      What you fail to understand is that just because something is worth standing up for that doesn't mean that there won't be negative, unjust, or undesirable consequences for posting something. The world isn't fair or just, and until it is (ie: never), there will be a need for anonymity.

    9. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by aussie_a · · Score: 2, Funny

      I agree with you Rebeka Thomas. IF that is your real name.

    10. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My name wouldn't make any of my ideas more correct, and neither does yours. Being persecuted by narrow-minded idiots doesn't prove anything other than that I wasn't smart enough to avoid it.

    11. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Get some integrity people, and write with your real names. Stand up for what you believe in and put your name next to your thoughts."

      I agree with you entirely. People who post anonymously suck.

    12. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by dawnread · · Score: 0, Troll

      I think the fact that the first thing that came into your mind when faced with a female poster was her being raped by her dad says alot about you as a person.

    13. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by QuadZero · · Score: 1
      rebeka thomas (673264) wrote in post #12172861: What tripe. What complete unadulterated tripe. Breeding a group of people who are convinced they're doing their thing for the world, yet who write anonymously behind the safety of a pseudonym or "Anonymous Coward" moniker?
      Rebeka, you mentioned "the safety of a pseudonym" in your reply, above. Can you imagine any situation where you would feel justified appropriating such safety? I certainly can, and apparently a few other respondents can as well.

      So if there are reasonable situations in which embracing anonymity seems appropriate to you, why does your post sound so harshly critical of others who may feel the same way?

      Get some integrity people, and write with your real names. Stand up for what you believe in and put your name next to your thoughts.

      Or are they not really thoughts worth standing up for?

      I believe that thoughts stand or fall on their content alone, that the name, sex, age, ethnicity, etc., of the person expressing those thoughts conveys zero additional credibility to the legitimacy of said thoughts. To believe otherwise is to engage in one or more rhetorical fallacies such as discounting the relevance/truth of a position based on who it is that expresses that position, i.e., ad hominem.

      Perhaps you place high value on knowing who is saying something because you unwittingly engage in this kind of erroneous evaluation: judging WHAT is said on the basis of WHO said it, rather than judging WHAT is said on the basis of WHAT IS SAID.

      Perhaps you've been wronged/offended/hurt/embarrassed by an anonymous expression directed to or about you in the past; if so, I can empathize with your intensity on this matter. Nonetheless, projecting your own pain onto the rest of us because of something that happened to you personally seems a bit over-reactive and self-absorbed.

      --
      Richard (aka Merwyck, aka QuaDZeRo) I blog at http://richardharlos.com
    14. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by CrashPoint · · Score: 1

      I think the fact that you dismiss a valid hypothetical situation in favor of a baseless ad hominem attack says considerably more about you as a person.

    15. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by dawnread · · Score: 0
      Oh really. Please find examples on the web of these vast amounts of 'my dad raped me' weblogs.

      Only a slashdot reader would think that the first thing a raped woman would to is post to the web about it.

      It wasn't baseless, it was based on his post, you fool. Go and learn what 'baseless' means.

      I'm willing to personally guarantee if the parent poster hadn't used her name (or, at least, a female name) as their user ID, then the idea of rape would not have entered our perverted friend's mind.

    16. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by russellh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Breeding a group of people who are convinced they're doing their thing for the world, yet who write anonymously behind the safety of a pseudonym or "Anonymous Coward" moniker?

      Get some integrity people, and write with your real names. Stand up for what you believe in and put your name next to your thoughts.


      I suppose you've never heard of the Federalist Papers.

      --
      must... stay... awake...
    17. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by CrashPoint · · Score: 1
      Let's start with your previous post, shall we?

      "I think the fact that the first thing that came into your mind when faced with a female poster was her being raped by her dad says alot about you as a person."

      Oh? So incestual rape was "the first thing" that came into the poster's mind upon seeing a presumably-female Slashdot nick? And that's a "fact"? As long as you're reading minds, Kreskin, what number am I thinking of?

      "Oh really. Please find examples on the web of these vast amounts of 'my dad raped me' weblogs."

      Please find the part of my post where I said there are "vast amounts of 'my dad raped me' weblogs".

      But really, is it so difficult to believe that some people might choose blogging as a way to deal with the emotional aftermath of a sexual assault? Not that it matters; the poster you chose to label as a rape-obsessed pervert was merely making a hypothetical example. The actual number of blogs detailing such events, be it one or one hundred million, is irrelevant to the example and its validity.

      "Only a slashdot reader would think that the first thing a raped woman would to is post to the web about it."

      Again with "the first thing". I'd like you to point out where the poster implied that a rape victim would immediately go rushing to the computer after her attacker left.

      "It wasn't baseless, it was based on his post, you fool."

      No. It was based on erroneous, fallacious assumptions that you made about the poster. Such assumptions are not a valid base for a judgement of character, nor for any kind of logical statement. So yes, it was in fact baseless.

      "Go and learn what 'baseless' means."

      Did that years ago. Your turn.

      "I'm willing to personally guarantee if the parent poster hadn't used her name (or, at least, a female name) as their user ID, then the idea of rape would not have entered our perverted friend's mind."

      Brilliant. You just "guaranteed" that you are capable of making a sound psychological assessment of someone you've never met based on a single typed sentence. Excuse me if I give Miss Cleo more credibility than I give you.

    18. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by dawnread · · Score: 0
      YHBT.

      HAND.

    19. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enjoy the downmodding. Failure.

    20. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      I'm a little confused by your posts.
      It sounds like you are down on people who post anon at first, but then don't mind as long as they tell the truth?

      -nB

      --
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    21. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you host your own blog (and I know this has been mentioned several times earlier, as well as IN-TFA), you can use a robots.txt file in your root www directory, or place a robots META tag in your site/blog pages/template. Google even has an faq on the subject.

    22. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by JavaLord · · Score: 1

      What if you work for a government agency, or corporate entity, etc, that is engaged in all sorts of chicanery? Would you post with your real name, and be fired on the spot, or would you post anonymously so you can be a "voice from the inside"?

      What if you just want to post about politics and don't want to alienate potential employeers that might google your name?

    23. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Aggrav8d · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean that at all. I was trying to say that
      a) I respect and admire people more if they are brave enough to post in an non-anonymous form b) I asked why the parent had a problem with it, because all they did was rail anon posters without explaining why it was bad. You don't need integrity to report on the wrongdoings of the company you work for.

    24. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by node+3 · · Score: 1

      I think the fact that the first thing that came into your mind when faced with a female poster was her being raped by her dad says alot about you as a person.

      <sarcasm>Yeah, I feel real bad about thinking that being raped by a father would be something horrible to go through. Oh, I'm such an awful person.</sarcasm>

      What's it say about you as a person, that you thought this was a sexist thing to say (and where do you get the idea that this was "the first thing that came into my mind"?)? Both boys and girls are raped, you see, and I did consider that fact at the time of writing. Did you? It's also common enough that it's not an absurd example, and it's something people can relate to, even though odds are it hasn't happened to them.

      I tried to think of something that would be horrible to have lived through, but would also be something people might feel ashamed of or self-conscious about, and that specifically one would want kept secret. Yes, I did personalize it. When someone shows such callous disregard for the feelings and the plight of others, that's what you have to do. Even if I was replying to someone with a male name, don't you think this would have been a good example? What could be worse for a woman or man (in other words, any person, you sexist pig) to have gone through as a child?

      Thanks for helping me make my point, though. Wouldn't I be wise to wish to avoid the illogical and irrational judgment you are all too eager to dole out?

    25. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Reziac · · Score: 1

      While reading your post I was struck by the exact parallel to privacy, and shortsighted arguments to the effect of "If I'm not doing anything wrong, why do I need privacy?"

      I conclude that privacy and anonymity are essentially congruent freedoms.

      --
      ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
    26. Re:Anonymous posting reveals a lack of integrity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if you work for a national intelligence agency, and are afraid any posts you make online will be used against you if you're ever captured? Those people would probably love to be able to blog without fear!

  37. Information Gathering from Blogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Let me be the first to say that I, and many others, within the information gathering business use blogs including slashdot to collect information about our competitors. Competitors can be from business to government agencies.

    Passive information gathering from open sources goes on all the time especially here on slashdot where certain people give away pretty useful information about the current state of where they work including technical and operational matters.

    Some of this information might seem innocuous to many of you but for us 'in the know' we realise that some of you posters provide us with a goldmine of competitive intelligence because we recognize its context. It's basically reverse social engineering in action and it works because humans are social beings who want to 'connect' with their online social peers. We don't even have to resort to using 'recruitable weaknesses' like ideology, money or sex. Some of you people just blurt it out just because you want to be accepted.

    Here this bloggers who work in sensitive environment: Awareness of your surroundings can be a wonderful thing.

    1. Re:Information Gathering from Blogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hear this: if work in information-gathering business while being unable to use the correct word in the correct context I wouldn't trust your opinion at all.
      Do you see?

    2. Re:Information Gathering from Blogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Hear this: if work in information-gathering business while being unable to use the correct word in the correct context I wouldn't trust your opinion at all."

      First up, I also wouldn't trust the opinion of a person who cannot string a sentence together properly.

      Secondly, that's what the business is-information gathering. Various terms are thrown around in the different cultural parlance depending on where you work in this business. So calling it the information gathering business is exactly what it is. If you want to be pedantic about word play I could list various terms such as competitive intelligence, OSINT etc. But then again I'm just wasting my time with people who want to play semantic masturbation rather than hear about the actual methods and sources of this info gathering.

      Finally, believe what you will about information gathering being done on blogs. I know it does happen. It also happens on /.. There are posters on here who are marked and followed for their information pertaining to their company's because they are loudmouths about technical and operational matters and are exploited for being so. You'd be stupid not to think it doesn't go on.

      "Do you see?"

      Do I see what? What are you? Some sort of serial killing vacation slide showing mad man?

  38. Is there a program for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there a program that enables a person to read and post pseudonymous blogs on anonymous networks? That is, napster or p2p style?

    1. Re:Is there a program for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Freenet?

      Probably not the easiest way to do it though.

    2. Re:Is there a program for this? by Voxus · · Score: 1

      You could try archive.org for base storage, at least.

  39. I wish all employers would google prospects. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, I don't have to worry about accidently signing on with a bunch of humorless assholes!

  40. They'll find you, one way or another by John+Seminal · · Score: 1
    If government really wants to know who made a post, or blog, they can track you down. They have unlimited money and manpower. You would be suprised the tricks they have up their sleve. Who is to say that government does not let a person show their cards before moving in? It is like a busting a drug dealer. The police won't arrest a drug dealer the first time they see him selling drugs. They will wait and video record what he does the next month or more, and then nail him and everyone else.

    And with the patriot act, the technology available to the NSA, and the laws regulating ISP's, they know you much better than you think. You can use your proxy, you can try and use a public computer, but they can find you. You are leaving evidence behind. It is like a guy who wears gloves while breaking into a house. But he does not stop to think about picking up a single hair fiber that falls off his head. Or an eyelash. Or the single carpet fiber that is statically clinging to his jeans. There is always something.

    --

    Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."

    1. Re:They'll find you, one way or another by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If government [...] they can track

      "governments [..] they" or "government [...] it".

      they have up their sleve

      "they have up their sleeves" or "it has up its sleeve[s]".

      let a person show their cards

      "let a person show his/her cards" or "let people show their cards".

      with the patriot act

      "the USAPATRIOT Act".

      laws regulating ISP's

      "ISPs".

      try and use a public computer

      "try to use".

    2. Re:They'll find you, one way or another by indifferent+children · · Score: 1
      Some of your points are indisputably correct, but be careful about correcting some of the 'collective noun' usage. In British English, a collective noun is considered plural. The following are correct:

      The government are considering...

      A mob are attacking...

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      Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. --Mark Twain
    3. Re:They'll find you, one way or another by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, only assholes correct other people's English online. That is also indisputably correct.

  41. Re:Or not.... by laughingcoyote · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Given the situation you've described above (and I certainly empathize, I have three children of my own), I think we must ask ourselves, how free is our speech? For many of us who live paycheck-to-paycheck, getting fired is as grave a threat as jail time. Is our speech free while our employer is permitted to exercise such authority, even while that same authority is denied to elected officials?

    For all those who are going to jump on me, I'm not talking about blogging WHILE at work-your employer has a right to expect that you are working while they are paying you. What I dispute that they have is a right to expect that you will live by their rules for your entire life, even while "off" of work. If that is the case, they should be paying you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year-otherwise, once they stop deciding that your time is worth their pay, they have also decided to relinquish any form of control.

    --
    To fight the war on terror, stop being afraid.
  42. Article summary for /. convienience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blog anonymously

    1. Use anonymouser.com web proxy

    2. don't use real names, places, dates, that can be tied to a particular individual, company, project

  43. Annalee Newitz, will you marry me? by mankey+wanker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously, that lady is just so cool. I have yet to read one of her opinion pieces with which I disagree with her perspective. A woman can be forgiven so many faults with so much going on between her ears.

    Mom, Dad - this is my girlfriend:
    http://joi.typepad.com/photos/cc_anni versary_03/ci mg0171sized.jpg

    That's her first google hit under the images tab. Classic.

    1. Re:Annalee Newitz, will you marry me? by mankey+wanker · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Annalee Newitz, will you marry me? by l-ascorbic · · Score: 1

      But did you look at the next hit? She looks like Velma from Scooby Doo.

    3. Re:Annalee Newitz, will you marry me? by mankey+wanker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, but think of it this way: she's a keeper.

      Good looks are fleeting, but a good brain and a quick wit can last you a lifetime. Even if you are having championship sex with your number one girl, what's that come to - 2 hours of sex a day at a maximum? That's maybe 20% of your time with your lover. What about the rest of the time? You can keep your "maid in the living room, cook in the kitchen and whore in the bedroom" gals well away from me. I'll take the brainy chick every time. She's the one with whom I can get along.

      I've dated many really good ladies who weren't very good company and weren't very great in bed. Many women less fortunate in the looks department have been amazing in bed and provided me with excellent companionship. As long as the face is attractive and the rest is at least passable, I'm fine. Give me a smart, creative, and funny lady.

      The human brain is the biggest sex organ. Believe it.

      I figure her SO is a lucky guy/gal.

    4. Re:Annalee Newitz, will you marry me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw her in RL last month. These photographs are mostly terrible, she looks really ok in RL. At least completely different from the photo you mention.
      Of course she is everything but thin, but really, she looks good.

    5. Re:Annalee Newitz, will you marry me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everybody knows that chubby girls are way better in bed, anyway. Especially chubby girls who look hot in a suit: http://www.noncombatant.org/grokster/15-annalee-tr iumphant.jpg

    6. Re:Annalee Newitz, will you marry me? by lizzardhenry · · Score: 1

      Now me, I can say from experience that the great thing about dating brainy chicks who talk all the time because they're public intellectuals is that their tongues get a lot of exercise from all that yakking. That makes them give really great head!

      On the other hand, dating a stone-age tool of the patriarchy has its perks. Sure, the 3 minutes it takes for him to get off in the morning is boring and annoying, but what about the other 23+ hours of the day, while he's asleep, pretending that he's a computer programmer while talking smack on slashdot, or playing video games? Since he's too stupid to realize I'm fomenting revolution, life is sweet! As long as my boytoy nerd's got the bare minimum of skills necessary to fix my computer, I'm not complaining.

  44. Google Scares Me by AvatarofVirgo · · Score: 0

    I typed my name in Google one afternoon out of boredom and I actually found reference on some website with a email address I had back in 97.

    It also found links to my SETI@HOME profile and links to sites with post from the KDE newsletter when I was getting help with some thing.

    So seriously, be careful what you put in blogs. If there where a all knowing god in cyberspace, google would be it.

    1. Re:Google Scares Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I did the same thing and apparently I climb mountians, was a painter in the 50's and work at Motorola, microsoft and the MPAA.

      I also seem to have several degrees I do not remember...

      maybe I need to go to the doctor cince I must be blacking out alot and doing this stuff.

      FOOLS think that googling a name provides any real information.

    2. Re:Google Scares Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey I just googled for myself as well and it's cool
      I seem to be most renound for my huge organs.
      I am an md and have a phd in maths and I used to direct the today show.

      You should come and see me about those blackouts
      aparently I'm a nuero surgeon.

  45. What anonymizer do you trust? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you know they aren't run by the CIA?

  46. only stupid kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    give a fuck about maturity.

  47. Tor: another security/privacy tool by goon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bit surprised nobody has mentioned Tor.[0] Tor is a way for individuals, groups to source and share information but avoid some of the pitfalls. Tor is a useful tool for making your data (somewhat more) anonymous. Tor allows users to better hide the source or destination of their activities on-line. Tor unlike conventional encryption focuses on the header component of TCP packets so it makes it harder to determine the source or destination of your packets and ultimately your data. You can read more about how it works [1] and the Tor Protocol Specification here [2] and how it works here [3]. Tor should be another essential tool in your security kit.

    Reference
    [0] Tor, EFF Overview: http://tor.eff.org/overview.html
    [1] Tor, How it works: http://tor.eff.org/howitworks.html
    [2] Tor Protocol Specification: http://tor.eff.org/cvs/tor/doc/tor-spec.txt
    [3] Tor: How it Works: http://tor.eff.org/howitworks.html

    --
    peterrenshaw ~ Another Scrappy Startup
    1. Re:Tor: another security/privacy tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, Tor is mentioned in the article...

    2. Re:Tor: another security/privacy tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Tor is awesome. Combine it with privoxy and follow the guidelines in the article and be resistant to gov't agencies hassling you. People in China go to jail all the time for posting political content in blogs and discussion boards.

      It can also go the other way. Tor may be used to run "hidden" services such that you could potentially host a blog site, which would hopefully make it difficult for the authorities to find and seize your server or its owner.

    3. Re:Tor: another security/privacy tool by numark · · Score: 1

      Bit surprised nobody has mentioned Tor

      Nobody except the EFF, that is. Look in TFA under the heading "2. Using Anonymizing Technologies", 3rd paragraph :P

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  48. Slashdot AC policy by jay-be-em · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was curious as to what Slashdot's IP logging policy is, particularly for AC posts. From the faq, fyi:

    We log the usual stuff (IP, page, time, user, page views, moderation, and comment posting, mainly). A few other odds and ends too, but mostly the data is used to make moderation possible. We keep the logs for 48 hours.

    --
    "Orthodoxy means not thinking--not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness." --Eric Blair
  49. timing by thdexter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow, today my friend got fired for blogging about the Nintendo DS. He was working for Guillemot in NYC and didn't say anything that hadn't already been made public by Nintendo, and Guillemot OK'd that he could blog about it so long as he didn't reveal anything proprietary or whatever, but then after some DS hacking site linked to his blog as a source of "insider information" (their words), Nintendo caught wind and sent a notice to Guillemot about it, and they considered it a breach of contract (after they'd already said the blog posts were okay), and had to fire him. Oh well, he hated the job anyway.

    --
    I'm on a road shaped like a figure eight; I'm going nowhere but I'm guaranteed to be late.
  50. At least you'd be a pussy in good company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So those rebels who founded the United States, and wrote scathing political letters published anonymously, they were a bunch of pussies?

    Ben Franklin -- a pussy.
    James Madison -- definitely a pussy.
    Alexander Hamilton -- what a pussy.
    John Jay -- total pussy.

    As you say, such men obviously have no balls to do what it takes to make change. Why would anyone take their speech seriously? They skulked around in the shadows like some lowly criminals. I, for one, will not treat these pussies like human beings with something important to say.

  51. Of course not SCO by AthenianGadfly · · Score: 2, Funny

    He said the software industry, not the litigation industry. SCO moved on from software long ago - they're on to bigger and... well, bigger things.

  52. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who the hell doesn't think Velma's hot?

    Buncha fuckin' Fredmos in here.

  53. And also on their programming ability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See the post linked to in the GP post.

    "What is a buffer overflow?"

    Priceless...

    1. Re:And also on their programming ability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "What is a buffer overflow?" Priceless...

      Naw. Nothing wrong with an honest question. On the otherhand this:

      I am asking as a person that isn't a programmer but understands the concepts that go behind the smoke and mirrors.

      Is the kind of MBA/Microsoft scum talk I'd like to see destroyed.

  54. But that was the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IIRC, it wasn't down as anything against the contract terms of employment. Just a vague "bring the comany name into disrepute".

  55. You are so naive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude...

    The reason people do well or don't do well in a job has nothing to do with their hacker skills, it has to do with whether people are assholes or not.

    What I mean is, a guy can be the greatest coder in the world, but if he's constantly whining, or complains about how unfair stuff is, or doesn't have a sense of humor, then he won't be good for the team.

    Before we hire a guy, we all interview him/her, then sit around and talk about whether we *like* the person and if he/she's an asshole.

    And if someone wrote something stupid online that would get the "asshole" moniker to stick, then we'll use that to base our opinion.

    HR hasn't a clue what makes a good hire. And that's in *any* company.

  56. Easy answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If people decide to boycott, the company is completely free to *ask* them why, complain publicly. They are not OK to force them to buy stuff, though.

    Think your analogies through a little better. They stink.

    I forget the attribution: "Freedom without limits is just another word".

    Ta.

    1. Re:Easy answer by MoralHazard · · Score: 1

      Think your analogies through a little better. They stink.

      That would be because they're not analogies, dumbass. They're examples of other cases wherein one party exercises its first amendment rights in way that has negative consequences for another group exercising their first amemndment rights.

  57. Then you're stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First of all, I wouldn't hire a child molester if he was recommended by Jesus.

    And you never *ever* commit stuff in writing (and email is "in writing"). You talk about this stuff in person, one-on-one with people so at best, there is a he-said/she-said thing going on.

    But more importantly, I wouldn't give that as a reason. I would simply write in the interview form how this person wasn't as qualified as the person who got the job.

    Simple.

    If you can't come up with a legitimate reason for not hiring a child molester, then you're too stupid to work in the software industry.

  58. Insightful? Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    " If free speech is to mean anything, it must be done with a name and responsibility attached"

    No. If free speech means anything, then the right to do so anonymous is important.

    If the government is engaged illegal and/or immoral activity, then speaking about it with a name attached is tantamount to commiting suicide.

    You seem to be saying that unless you're willing to risk your job/family/life then you should keep your mouth shut.

    Wow. Great thinking.

    Sometimes. Sometimes, its enough to open the window shade. You don't need to be the hero with the name. Sometimes, just exposing the bugs to the light of day is service enough. Why should my 10 year old daughter be exposed to ridicule and hate, and possibly harm, just because daddy has to tell the world about something. *THAT* is irresponsible.

    What you're saying is so clearly false, I can't believe anybody would think its insightful. Oh, maybe in some theoretical sense that if the world was fair, you would sign your name, people would thank you and you'd be a hero. But in the real world, the truth gets you harmed in some important way.

    Without anonymity, there is no free speech.

  59. Re:Insightful? Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't you understand what free speech is? Even under the most authoritarian regime, anyone can make an anonymous statement. All it takes is a can of spray paint, a wall, and about 5 seconds. That doesn't mean that the person has free speech. It just means that he has the ability to say something anonymously.

    Free speech means that you can say what you want without government interference. Now you can argue whether or not that ideal exists anywhere in real life, but to say that free speech is dependent upon anonymous speech is to have the whole concept ass-backwards.

  60. Changing names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suspect your company is not the only one that does that.

    Anyway, I've decided that I'm going to change my same some time before I apply for a new job. It's not that I have anything to hide, but I feel that future employers and co-workers would know too much about me, even before I started working at a place. My name is not that common, so it would be easy to see who I am on and what my interests are, from the results that search-engines give.

    Has anyone actually decided to change their name, because of the results on search-engines? It would be interesting to hear other people's stories.

  61. fskjei jwfjkcsca wf lewfjk by hedge_death_shootout · · Score: 2, Funny

    Remember to encrypt your blog. Don't hand out the public key to anyone.

  62. Only in America... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "As a side note, I've always wondered if someone with your name could sue you for defamation for doing dumb things under your own name online..."

    Only in America...

  63. Anonymous know-alls by baadger · · Score: 1

    I think from a companies perspective an anonymous know-it-all is more dangerous than an employee who blogs with a good sense of objectivity.

    How would you feel if some John Doe is out there criticising the hell out of your business in the media?

    Provided you aren't giving away trade secrets, company plans, or calling higher ranks names, most people will take some fair comment.

  64. Anonymous facts by Jonathan · · Score: 1

    Anonymous opinions are worthless. Anonymous facts are not

    Yeah, but think about the typical blog. They aren't giving out information about secret government conspiracies that involve selling Nebraska to the Albanians, but rather that a certain company sucks to work at and has bad management. Unless the reader *knows* which company is being referred to (and then knows to avoid working there), the blog is pretty useless. If I just want funny stories about poorly run companies, I can read "Dilbert" instead.

  65. How? by elucido · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How do they know who a person is if they arent from their ISP or computer? What if you use wifi? what if its a college network? The NSA does not have unlimited tracking powers. They are good but lets be serious, there are ways to be annonymous online and offline. We all know the ways and we all know why its nearly impossible to stop.

  66. No no no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no "theoretical world" where free speech is rewarded.

    Free speech is hated.

    Don't believe me? Ask anyone from Europe. They'll all tell you that speech can't really be free, because what if it "hurts" someone.

    The head of the UN IT (Chinese, shocker), says the Internet should be regulated because of speech issues.

    When the government is committing illegal acts, they generally make it *treason* to speak out against it.

    So back to the real world, if you know the government is taking people and giving them LSD illegally, if you speak up, you will just disappear. In the real world, that's what happens.

    1. Re:No no no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did I say free speech would be "rewarded"?

      On the contrary, free speech will often be punished (in various forms), but if that punishment comes from the government, then it can't rightly be called free speech anymore.

  67. see also invisiblog.com by jpn · · Score: 3, Informative

    Invisiblog lets you post blog entries via the anonymous remailer network.

  68. I2p = NSA spyware. by elucido · · Score: 1, Troll

    I2P along with Tor are both NSA developed. Now, as much as I like the NSA, I find it funny that they always develop the most "secure" software. SELinux for example.

  69. Re:Or not.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    close, its "repercussions"

  70. No, it doesn't. by squiggleslash · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I specifically avoided associated anything to do with my identity with my account here precisely because I wanted to be able to speak freely about what came to me, and if that included being pissed at someone I work with, then so be it.

    I reason that as long as my employer isn't named, there's no real clue that identifies them in what I write, I can write as much as I want about what bugs me without it impacting on my employer or back on me. As my employer has a strict policy about public statements, it's also the case that pseudonymously or anonymously is about the only way I can comment about my life in general.

    It's a straight choice - either speak without anyone realistically connecting events to my employer, or be fired. Some people, yourself, and a few opinionated but out-of-the-real-world F/OSS people, etc have recently suggested this is cowardly. You'll excuse me if I avoid taking advice from these groups as you have no idea of the precise circumstances I'm in.

    I would agree it would show a lack of integrity if I published private information publically about my employer, attacking them, and ensuring everyone associated this private information with them (ie, if I worked for IBM, I wrote something like "My dumbass boss told me to cancel the XYZ project I've been working on which is going to totally fuck up our customers who were depending on this to deal with the bugs in XY. IBM sucks! Don't work here!"), then that'd show a lack of integrity. But writing generically, or commenting on what's public - stories in the news, etc - is hardly a sign of a lack of integrity.

    What I will say is people who make sweeping attacks on entire groups of people without regard to their circumstances, ignoring the obvious, expecting people to value some third party's opinion about them more than their careers, has a seriously screwed set of values.

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  71. Not just firing offenses! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sometimes you have to worry about more than just getting fired. This is fsck'ing 2005, and you still have to worry about redneck union hicks kicking your ass if you're not anonymous enough.

  72. Timestamps by amrust · · Score: 1

    Couldn't people just change them to a time when they weren't at the office? Not that *I* do... ;)

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  73. Not really by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See, the "you're the only link" guilt trip only applies when one really is the only link. I.e., when it's about people _you_ chose to interact with, and interactions _you_ had some control over. Simplifying the awfully complex graph of social and corporate interactions at work into "you're the only link" is an _awful_ over-simplification and just plain old false.

    Example: a lot of the people you meet daily (including on the street, in the train, at the restaurant where you "did lunch" with a client, etc) are below average IQ. About half of them in fact. That's why it's an average. Does that make _you_ the only connection between stupid people?

    I think you can see the problem by now.

    Again, that kind of thing doesn't really apply for things that weren't under one's control to start with, and when indeed there was no other external common factor. E.g., if the 5th girlfriend just dumped you, yeah, you're the common link. E.g., if the 5th customer brought to you by the company's marketer is a clueless PHB, then chances are you're _not_ the common link. The common link is the marketter that brought them. E.g., if it's the 5th project which where you're asked to do overtime to implement changes, because the boss can't bring himself to tell the client "nope, we need more time to implement those", then you're _not_ the common link. The common link is the boss. Etc.

    So just to clearly summarize it, in the case of an average employee:

    - For the co-workers he's _not_ the "only common link". The real common link is the manager or HR person who hired them. Those decided the level of competence they wish to pay for, so, yeah, sometimes you're stuck working with incompetent or lazy people.

    True story: I know of one department where they actually did a reverse auction for employees. No, it's not an urban legend. The ones who wanted the least money got hired, regardless of qualification or credentials. Needless to say, much to the existing workers' grief, their new coleagues were about as sharp as a bowling ball. Even if a really cheap bowling ball.

    And methinks there it's a bit unfair to blame it on any team member as "you're the common link." No, the common link was the manager who had that stupid idea, in a misguided attempt to cut costs.

    - For the clients, the real link is the marketting department that brought those.

    - For the tools or technologies one has to use, or to support, again it's a tad unfair to blame the team member or tech support guy. He's not the one who chose them. The real common link is invariably a manager there.

    Etc.

    And in some cases the only honest thing to say is that someone is incompetent or lazy. It has nothing to do with "assassinating someone's integrity". Some people just do an awful job, and that's that.

    Sure, you can pretend to be in some Wonderland where everyone is competent, noone makes any mistakes, everyone gives 100%, and half the corporate decisions aren't an equal split between ass-covering, brown-nosing, ego trips, corruption and nepotism. Quite a happy wonderland is that.

    Unfortunately the real world doesn't work that way.

    No ammount of soul-searching, seeing the other's point of view, or "maybe I'm the link" guilt trips can really explain stuff like: Coworker A needed 3 years to write the same module that Coworker B wrote in 6 hours. And Coworker B's version had far less bugs (we only found 1 so far, and it was in a library he used, not in his code), and ran 50 times faster. Actually benchmarked on very large real-world data sets, so no micro-benchmarking effects apply.

    There's also the fact that Coworker A doesn't even know the very basics of the language he's paid to program in. No, seriously. He hadn't even heard of "call by value", so I had to help him debug his trying to assign a value to a parameter in a method, to change the variable used as a parameter to the method. Also hadn't ever heard of "linked list", "hash table" or the other absolute basics of computer programming.

    So please tell me: how should I see that situation. What point of view should I see for him, that makes that one a perfectly competent and productive co-worker? It's not even a flame. I'm genuinely curious by now.

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  74. Peudonyms by El_Servas · · Score: 0

    ...so, for instance, don't anonymize the name "Annalee" by using the name "Leanne."

    Of course not! Must be "Anal een"

  75. Easy... by Theaetetus · · Score: 2, Funny
    I just ROT13 all of my blog posts, and my PHB can't figure out how to decode them.

    (On a side note, in BareBones' BBEdit, if you ROT13 some text, it pops up a warning that "this operation can not be undone". Either some programmer is having fun, or someone doesn't quite understand the concept.)

    1. Re:Easy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *snort* That's probably a canned warning for any change that exceeds the capacity of their undo buffer, rather than explicitly implementing undo for every command.

  76. What is this, Constitution of which you speak? by MidWorldOddity · · Score: 1

    I don't know if this has been said yet, but being forced to blog anonymously out of fear of backlash is EXACTLY what the Constitution was trying to protect. Granted, it could be argued this only applies to political speech, but the rest is basically implied, with the regular exceptions. If I can't get on my personal website, and blog about what I consider to be a bunch of idiots running the country, or that I make my own wine, or that I prefer certain sexual positions, where is my freedom? I do understand that there are consequences from shouting on the rooftops, but that doesn't make it right, and we shouldn't be forced into hiding simply because we don't want to shout generic half-truths to the world.

  77. Precisely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So therefore, there is no free speech unless it is anonymous.

    To put it in code:

    If Free Speech == Getting Killed

    and

    I == Don't want to be killed

    but

    I == want to let other people know about an injustice

    Then

    I must be anonymous to exercise free speech.

  78. Re:Or not.... by Politburo · · Score: 1

    getting fired is as grave a threat as jail time

    I would say getting fired could be a more grave threat. With jail, you are guaranteed a roof, food, and stylish clothes.

  79. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She might be cute....or not. Can't tell from that picture.

    But hopefully, a girl who gives the finger like that will never use the phrase "go slow" in a sexual encounter.

    Now *that* would make her rock.

  80. Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "What about the rest of the time?"

    Um...you tell her to get out and you'll see her tomorrow night and then you go out with your friends?

    Just a guess.

  81. Slashdot is/isn't a blog by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1


    My employer caught me reading this article on company time, and fired me! Thanks for nothing, you insensitive clods!

  82. whiners, whiners everywhere by maxpublic · · Score: 1

    Look at all the people complaining about anonymous posters and bloggers. Ya gotta ask yourself why these holier-than-thou types get their panties into such a wad over comments made by people they'll never be able to track down and beat to death with a baseball bat.

    Or not.

    Don't like the idea of someone making fun of your tiny penis behind the shield of anonymity? Then move to a country which doesn't believe in free speech, and don't let the door hit your ass on th way out. Fuckwits.

    Max

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  83. hrm.. by serenarae · · Score: 1

    This is really too bad. You might thing employees activities outside of work wouldn't impact their work life, but alas... that isn't the case. If my company found out half the shit I did i'd probably get fired. Which would be hillarious because they keep promoting me because of the excellent job I do!

    Being a whistleblower is fun... just have to be careful.

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  84. Re:Or not.... by knight37 · · Score: 1

    With jail, you are guaranteed a roof, food, and stylish clothes.

    And a lover named Bubba.

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  85. My Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get some integrity people, and write with your real names. Stand up for what you believe in and put your name next to your thoughts.

    I'll use whatever name I damn well please thank you very much. Who died and made you God, to say what labels the rest of us have to always wear??

  86. Consider yourself lucky by alienmole · · Score: 1

    I'm the only one who shows up when googling for my real name (not disclosed here). So, I can't get away with saying "no, that was a different me!" if I want to disown something I've said or done online. Accountability sucks...