I won't debate the virtues of having a small language with weak (heck, non-existent) type checking for systems programming. There are some bones to pick with C in terms of syntax and semantics, however, that could have been avoided from day one.
First, = vs. ==. It would have made more sense to use something like <- for assignment, or a keyword like "eq" for equality. Instead, we have the silly convention of writing "(SomeConstant == SomeVariable)" in conditions just in case we forget to hit the = key twice. (Very stupid mistake? Yeah, but I've done it, and I do know better.)
The C preprocessor. Probably no other piece of code has been more abused than/lib/cpp. Granted, macros are a cheap way to generate code, but the implementation is fraught with traps (try nesting macros and accidentally introducing a syntax error in one. Yum.). Not to mention what an unscrupulous developer can do with the "#undef" directive. Besides, using macros to define constants is silly (I use enum wherever I can for that reason).
Vague non-standardized data type sizes. Only chars have a defined size; everything else is up in the air. How many times have you been stung by using an "unsigned short" on another architecture, only to realize the size changed on you? (If you write kernel or driver code, it's probably happened to you.) And how many times have you had to deal with someone else's (e.g. your) implementation of types like "U16" or "unsigned32", just because the language forgot to include it?
And don't get me started on "long long". Grrr..
Don't get me wrong: if you view C as glorified assembler, it's a great language. But some cheesy semantics do allow for abuse, misuse, and neglect by the careless, and unnecessarily so.
MSFT types (and those who have evolved into them) feel that the command line is somehow evil and tainted. In other words, a point-and-drool interface is required.
For example, you have a list of numbers, one per line, in a file, a MSFTy will say "uh oh, gotta get Excel". A Unix-head types in one line at the prompt:
sed "2,\$s/^/+/g" list.txt | xargs echo | bc
Of course, there are numerous ways you can do this, and I'm sure somebody here will want to show off their kung-fu in a later post, but you get the idea.
I'd say, just show them how powerful Unix scripting can be, and one they're used to simple tasks on a Linux box, start making them write simple (or not so simple) command lines and scripts. Reinforce the idea that yes, the tools are there.. because software developers through the decades had to write them, rather than buy them shrink-wrapped.. and that it's just a matter of knowing how to use them effectively.
This wouldn't have something to do with Sesame Street's Bert (recently revealed to be a Bin Laden ally in Bangladesh) and his fondness for pigeons, would it?
Soon, there will be no paper clips or oatmeal left on the entire Indian subcontinent. The grip of Al-Qaeda is closing in on India, one muppet at a time..
There is no new boom. There can't be and there won't be.
The preceding poster's comments have been, far and away, the most insightful on this thread so far.
Case in point: My adopted home of Raleigh, North Carolina. Not to bitch and moan (having done that already in previous posts), but this area depends on telecom and Big Pharma for its high-tech positions. The former hardly exists at this point, with Cisco, Nortel, Ericsson, and their customers refusing to burn any cash whatsoever.
And if there is a "boom", you won't notice it here, except as a slowly, steadily lowering unemployment rate. The big dogs will NOT recover immediately, and the smaller dogs will do their best to stay on the porch until then.
Oh well. My current job will run out in late June, I think. Note to perusing potential employers & providers of cheap labor: If you have Raleigh, who needs Bangalore? (Hint, hint.)
As an American, I get more disgusted every day with the whining that goes on around here in the States. Everybody trying to justify their wasteful habits and all that.
Just recently our Congress sank an attempt to (horrors!) make our auto manufacturers produce more fuel-efficient vehicles. Forget for a moment that the plans allowed for over a decade of time to prepare, and that the targets are technically and economically feasible today.
No, instead, our stalwart solons caved in to lobbying tactics, like the commercial with the SUV-owning suburban housewife who declares "they won't take my keys away!!". (I hope somebody does, for the safety of the rest of us on the highway, but that's another rant.)
If you, my fellow citizens, think this post offends you: Quit your goddamn whining. Stop being slaves to convenience & accept from responsibility for a change. The Bill of Rights does not contain the phrase "sport utility vehicle". God we've become such a nation of narcissistic losers...
No kidding. My first job was with Le Grand Bleu here in the Research Triangle Park, NC area. There I was, fresh out of school , and I found myself writing very-close-to-kernel code. (Remember, this was back in the days when Linux barely existed if at all, during the last spastic twitchings of the reign of Bush the Elder.)
The OS internals themselves were pretty slick (multi-threading, flat memory model), and the driver interface was decent, even in the 2.0 days, but Christ, IBM couldn't market lemonade in the desert. No TCP stack, no developer tools without mortgaging your soul, and as far guaranteeing compatibility on other manufacturer's 386 boxes, well, you were on your own.
Having said that, it was a great OS to cut my driver-writing teeth on, even if the APIs were butt-ugly to behold (definitely MSFT's influence there; IBM preferred things to be more Unixy IIRC).
If you wonder what it was like watching a product being made and poorly poorly marketed, I'll say this much: I was getting totally fscking tired of watching great developers get screwed. IBM recruited, and got, a wide array of very talented technical people, only to have their efforts (as developers and evangelists) stifled by suits. Yes, the same kinds of suits who gave MS-DOS to MS in the eighties, and who never had a clue about the PC software market until it was too late. Despite the developers' best efforts, IBM management and marketing always managed to find a way to lose to Microsoft. Really snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They had either no will to win, or not enough brains to do it. Quite a few of us just ended up leaving in disgust.
Again, that was another life. My main dev platform these days is the Penguin, and I'm using MacOS X at home. I still don't have much of a tolerance for x86-based machines, let alone their corporation-generated OSes. And I'll never return to a large mega-monolithic corporation for a job if I can help it..
The real winners and losers of this decision are probably as follows:
The winners:
MacOS X developers, because gcc will finally tap AltiVec, and may actually generate code optimized for the PowerPC architecture (hey, one can dream);
Apple itself, if better free tools translate into a larger developer community;
Red Hat, if it can translate the ports somehow into $$$$$$.
The losers:
Motorola's Metrowerks. They've been absorbed by what is arguably the most Dilbertesque corporation on the planet, and one compelling reason for selling the CodeWarrior suite will soon start to fade; and
competing PowerPC Linux distros, if Red Hat decides to get into the act as well. SuSE will probably survive such a maneuver, but YellowDog and LinuxPPC probably would not.
As far as the Mac community goes, Linux is a solution in search of a problem. Yeah, you can turn older Macs (that can't run OS X, for example) into servers with it, and you can certainly increase ROI that way on old hardware as well, this really isn't that much of an issue in the Mac world. Not much of a business case, anyway.
Amélie is cute for its own good - to the point of being totally fucking boring. (Does anyone here know the French phrase for "script doctor"?)
Sorry to piss off all of France here, but the reviewers at The Onion's AV Club site said it best. They likened this flick to "doing laps in an Olympic-sized swimming pool filled with maple syrup."
There are plenty of other good French films that came out recently, like The Closet and With A Friend Like Harry. Just ignore the saccharine-coated butt ball called Amélie, okay?
Defeat this by using it...
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An idea just hit me..
If the SSSCA is supposed to safeguard copyrighted data, and since all data is essentially just bits, then.. why not just go ahead and copyright the 32-bit integer of your choice?
If I own the copyright to, say, that famous hexadecimal value "DEADBEEF", almost every workstation vendor and embedded device manufacturer, and maybe their customers, either owe me a royalty or are guilty of piracy according to the SSSCA. (Remember, this is a copyright, not a patent; it makes no difference about "prior art".)
And armed with this new weapon, I'd go after every movie studio, recording company, and Congressional office that trafficked my "work".
Stupid? Very. Legal? Under the SSSCA, um.. could be..
Twelve months for you to work..
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Folks, it looks like the Senate gave us 12 months to show just how fscking stupid this thing is. It's time to expend some dead treeware to your local Congresscritters as well as to the media outlet of your choice. (May I recommend newspapers in Charleston and Columbia, SC as well as in Charlotte (just across the NC/SC border)?)
Sorry to hear about what's happening to you; my job will be moving away from me, and I'm fairly sure I won't be following it. (Can't tell you much more, sorry.) Don't cry too much for me though, since my personal circumstances are far better than those of many people close to me here. (I won't bore you with the whole story.)
One thing to bear in mind: HR department are gatekeepers, and not much else in terms of hiring. Submitting a resume to HR is tantamount to plopping it in the circular file or the bit bucket.
You do have the Valley to your advantage: instead of resume spamming, do a little "face spamming"! Be aggressive. Show up with your resume in hand, get it in the hands of the VP of Engineering (or reasonable facsimile thereof). Chances are, you could hit 50-100 offices in one day where you live; a lot of us simply don't have that advantage (see my post: "Bad in Raleigh/Durham, NC").
The Valley is crowded, rude, overgrown, overpriced, and just plain nasty. But I'd kill to be there for a week or two, if I could convince my better half to do it. There's always at least a little more hope when you're closer to Sand Hill Road.
This area used to be a magnet for techies, and not just.com wanna-bes. VB knowledge? Yeah, fine, but we'd prefer people who know protocols, RTOSs, embedded systems, and how to successfully slap together high-availability servers and telecom gear, thank you very much.
But things have changed. It's not uncommon around here to see a Sam's Club manager who used to be a firmware engineer at one of the larger employers in Research Triangle Park. Some companies are even relocating, which is really weird, considering how cheap it is to live here (compared to SF, Boston, or even Atlanta). I know engineers, even ones without the standard obligations (family, kids, etc. etc.) who would rather wait tables than leave. Yes, this area really is that nice.
I'll be out on the street myself sometime this year, in all likelihood, so I'm looking around -- and it's pretty sad right now. I'm just hoping things pick up around here by the summer.
Note to interested employers: Digustingly skilled work force, cheaper to live here than most other places, three great universities nearby. Open a damn office here already!
Nice non-sexist language from an elightened poster.
Wanna know the truth? It is harder for women to make it in software development and engineering. Almost every female acquaintance or friend I know of in the field has opted out. And most of these people entered the job market around the same time I did ('92). The only one I know who hasn't left for good is my wife, and she's seriously thinking about the MBA to get the fsck out of the development side of the software house.
Why the exodus? Well, a male-dominated culture does keep a woman from being "one of the guys"; it's very intimidating. I find out every day at the dinner table how emancipated geeks like yourself wind up behaving like arrogant silverbacks in the office.
And there's the whole hornet's nest of having kids. Yeah, yeah, I know, dads are involved here too -- but get back to me about this once Dad can get pregnant.
I have yet to meet a woman who found a career in software development to be truly rewarding, & I know of very very few who didn't get pissed off enough to leave (or stay out once they were exiled).
Yeah, this was flamebait, but, because I got my degree in the same town where the Rock is brewed, I'm required -- yeah, morally obligated -- to bitch.
Granted, RR isn't Hoeggarden or Orval's Trappist Ale, but it's a damn sight better than most of the mass-produced moose-piss that passes for lager in the USA.
Later,
-- CoffeeNowDammit (St. Vincent College class of '89..Go Stillers!)
So, yeah, if you want to teach your kid about witchcraft you ought to take him/her to see this movie, but I as a Christian would not take my child to see it if I had a child.
I hope your only choices of nightlife in the future are Pagan singles bars (be they real Pagans or the motorcycle gang). The herd doth needeth thinning.
As a side note, I am NOT even CLOSE to a right-wing extremist so don't even TRY to rope me into that category.
Granted, every OS is a work in progress, but I've been playing with it for the past few days, and.. I look at my Linux box at work much differently.
GNOME, KDE, et. al. are toys compared to Aqua/Darwin. The only thing I need on my Mac is an X-Windows server, and a decent package manager, and I'm good to go. (v10.1 wouldn't hurt either.)
Sure, there are foibles here and there (speed is one issue), but.. damn it's a gorgeous Unix system.
Is it ok to break laws you don't personally care for?
Not only "yes", but "of course".
Granted, you have to meet certain criteria before contemplating such a feat:
You disagree with the law as a matter of conscience, not convenience.
You have exhausted all legal avenues for redress of grievances.
You choose to resist in as non-violent a manner as humanly possible.
And finally, you are willing to accept and not resist the consequences of your actions, particularly those meted out by the authorities whose strictures you oppose.
Under such circumstances, it is not only your right to refuse to obey, but your moral obligation.
For further information, check out the works of Henry David Thoreau, Martin Luther King Jr., Mahondas Gandhi, and Thomas Merton.
Don't simply break the law. If you do, you are likely to end up in jail. How does that help your cause of freedom?
It worked for King (he wrote "Letter from a Birmingham Jail" during that time) and Thoreau
("Walden" details HDT's time in the slammer for refusing to pay a poll tax).
BTW - God love you and longs for relationship with you.
And He entrusted you with conscience, free will, and, if you're lucky, the courage to use them.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for submitting this comment, whoever you are. It finally drives home the reality of the marketplace to the zealots who post here.
Folks, it's a sad fact that IS types and the blissfully computer-ignorant have a brand loyalty to Mickeysoft.. much in the same way that your elderly American relatives absolutely must drive Lincoln Continentals or buy WinModems.
Simply put: you or someone you know is spoiled and/or incredibly daft about the products being sold to you. Chances are, you don't want to know how something works, but you'll assert your divine right to cheap reliable consumer products, and you'll certainly buy whatever the media (or the box) tells you to -- forgetting the adages "if it sounds too good to be true etc. etc." in the process. That WinModem is $20 on the shelf at Fry's, a whole $80 less than that other modem. Hey, something for nothing, right? *snicker*
If you want Linux to succeed, sit down and take a good hard look at your VCR. Consider how many of the damn things blink "12:00" across this great land of ours. Then consider that most people don't want to know how the damn thing works.
It should've been labelled "Funny".
Cuz it is. =-)
".sig,.sig a.sog,.sig out loud,.sig out.strog"
Well, having attended WWDC..
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Apple is doing nothing more then incorporating open source [hype] into their operating system to attract more people.
True, almost.
Apple certainly is trying to jump on the Open Source bandwagon, no doubt. But from what I can tell, it isn't just hype. If they were ever to shy away from the open source strategy, it'll be because the strategy itself was a failure. For now though, developing for Darwin is easy as a registration and a download.
Give credit where it's due. The Apple of old would never have agreed to this sort of arrangement without the signing of large checks. This is a fairly bold (albeit late) march in another direction.
As for "attracting more people", well, duh. Apple needs every developer it can get..
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Uh, whose idea was that anyway?
And (most importantly).. why??
a.boy.named.su
I won't debate the virtues of having a small language with weak (heck, non-existent) type checking for systems programming. There are some bones to pick with C in terms of syntax and semantics, however, that could have been avoided from day one.
And don't get me started on "long long". Grrr..
Don't get me wrong: if you view C as glorified assembler, it's a great language. But some cheesy semantics do allow for abuse, misuse, and neglect by the careless, and unnecessarily so.
Why am I thinking about remote controls and large, well-charged capacitors right now?
"Sorry, I thought this was my FRRRZZAAT.."
For example, you have a list of numbers, one per line, in a file, a MSFTy will say "uh oh, gotta get Excel". A Unix-head types in one line at the prompt:
sed "2,\$s/^/+
Of course, there are numerous ways you can do this, and I'm sure somebody here will want to show off their kung-fu in a later post, but you get the idea.
I'd say, just show them how powerful Unix scripting can be, and one they're used to simple tasks on a Linux box, start making them write simple (or not so simple) command lines and scripts. Reinforce the idea that yes, the tools are there.. because software developers through the decades had to write them, rather than buy them shrink-wrapped.. and that it's just a matter of knowing how to use them effectively.
This wouldn't have something to do with Sesame Street's Bert (recently revealed to be a Bin Laden ally in Bangladesh) and his fondness for pigeons, would it?
Soon, there will be no paper clips or oatmeal left on the entire Indian subcontinent. The grip of Al-Qaeda is closing in on India, one muppet at a time..
won't be.
The preceding poster's comments have been, far and away, the most insightful on this thread so far.
Case in point: My adopted home of Raleigh, North Carolina. Not to bitch and moan (having done that already in previous posts), but this area depends on telecom and Big Pharma for its high-tech positions. The former hardly exists at this point, with Cisco, Nortel, Ericsson, and their customers refusing to burn any cash whatsoever.
And if there is a "boom", you won't notice it here, except as a slowly, steadily lowering unemployment rate. The big dogs will NOT recover immediately, and the smaller dogs will do their best to stay on the porch until then.
Oh well. My current job will run out in late June, I think. Note to perusing potential employers & providers of cheap labor: If you have Raleigh, who needs Bangalore? (Hint, hint.)
Thank you so very much. I'm serious.
As an American, I get more disgusted every day with the whining that goes on around here in the States. Everybody trying to justify their wasteful habits and all that.
Just recently our Congress sank an attempt to (horrors!) make our auto manufacturers produce more fuel-efficient vehicles. Forget for a moment that the plans allowed for over a decade of time to prepare, and that the targets are technically and economically feasible today.
No, instead, our stalwart solons caved in to lobbying tactics, like the commercial with the SUV-owning suburban housewife who declares "they won't take my keys away!!". (I hope somebody does, for the safety of the rest of us on the highway, but that's another rant.)
If you, my fellow citizens, think this post offends you: Quit your goddamn whining. Stop being slaves to convenience & accept from responsibility for a change. The Bill of Rights does not contain the phrase "sport utility vehicle". God we've become such a nation of narcissistic losers...
We were grad students in a university CS department, and relied quite a bit on good ol' Unix talk. One such exchange went something like this:
Her: Hey, how's it going?
Me: Not bad; I'm tru^Hying to get tj^Hhis packet sniffer worl^Hking on this DOF^HS box.
But the bav^Hckspacr^He key on this tern^Hmim^Hnal is messed up..
Her: asdf[four correct backspaces]asdf[four correct backspaces, pattern repeats for a bit...]
Me: WELL, FIM^HNE! RUB IT IM^HN WHY DON"^H'T YOU!
Neither of us has used Internet messaging; I guess we're secretly pining for good ol' talk.
No kidding. My first job was with Le Grand Bleu here in the Research Triangle Park, NC area. There I was, fresh out of school , and I found myself writing very-close-to-kernel code. (Remember, this was back in the days when Linux barely existed if at all, during the last spastic twitchings of the reign of Bush the Elder.)
The OS internals themselves were pretty slick (multi-threading, flat memory model), and the driver interface was decent, even in the 2.0 days, but Christ, IBM couldn't market lemonade in the desert. No TCP stack, no developer tools without mortgaging your soul, and as far guaranteeing compatibility on other manufacturer's 386 boxes, well, you were on your own.
Having said that, it was a great OS to cut my driver-writing teeth on, even if the APIs were butt-ugly to behold (definitely MSFT's influence there; IBM preferred things to be more Unixy IIRC).
If you wonder what it was like watching a product being made and poorly poorly marketed, I'll say this much: I was getting totally fscking tired of watching great developers get screwed. IBM recruited, and got, a wide array of very talented technical people, only to have their efforts (as developers and evangelists) stifled by suits. Yes, the same kinds of suits who gave MS-DOS to MS in the eighties, and who never had a clue about the PC software market until it was too late. Despite the developers' best efforts, IBM management and marketing always managed to find a way to lose to Microsoft. Really snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They had either no will to win, or not enough brains to do it. Quite a few of us just ended up leaving in disgust.
Again, that was another life. My main dev platform these days is the Penguin, and I'm using MacOS X at home. I still don't have much of a tolerance for x86-based machines, let alone their corporation-generated OSes. And I'll never return to a large mega-monolithic corporation for a job if I can help it..
The winners:
The losers:
As far as the Mac community goes, Linux is a solution in search of a problem. Yeah, you can turn older Macs (that can't run OS X, for example) into servers with it, and you can certainly increase ROI that way on old hardware as well, this really isn't that much of an issue in the Mac world. Not much of a business case, anyway.
Amélie is cute for its own good - to the point of being totally fucking boring. (Does anyone here know the French phrase for "script doctor"?)
Sorry to piss off all of France here, but the reviewers at The Onion's AV Club site said it best. They likened this flick to "doing laps in an Olympic-sized swimming pool filled with maple syrup."
There are plenty of other good French films that came out recently, like The Closet and With A Friend Like Harry. Just ignore the saccharine-coated butt ball called Amélie, okay?
If the SSSCA is supposed to safeguard copyrighted data, and since all data is essentially just bits, then.. why not just go ahead and copyright the 32-bit integer of your choice?
If I own the copyright to, say, that famous hexadecimal value "DEADBEEF", almost every workstation vendor and embedded device manufacturer, and maybe their customers, either owe me a royalty or are guilty of piracy according to the SSSCA. (Remember, this is a copyright, not a patent; it makes no difference about "prior art".)
And armed with this new weapon, I'd go after every movie studio, recording company, and Congressional office that trafficked my "work".
Stupid? Very. Legal? Under the SSSCA, um.. could be..
Folks, it looks like the Senate gave us 12 months to show just how fscking stupid this thing is. It's time to expend some dead treeware to your local Congresscritters as well as to the media outlet of your choice. (May I recommend newspapers in Charleston and Columbia, SC as well as in Charlotte (just across the NC/SC border)?)
Sorry to hear about what's happening to you; my job will be moving away from me, and I'm fairly sure I won't be following it. (Can't tell you much more, sorry.) Don't cry too much for me though, since my personal circumstances are far better than those of many people close to me here. (I won't bore you with the whole story.)
One thing to bear in mind: HR department are gatekeepers, and not much else in terms of hiring. Submitting a resume to HR is tantamount to plopping it in the circular file or the bit bucket.
You do have the Valley to your advantage: instead of resume spamming, do a little "face spamming"! Be aggressive. Show up with your resume in hand, get it in the hands of the VP of Engineering (or reasonable facsimile thereof). Chances are, you could hit 50-100 offices in one day where you live; a lot of us simply don't have that advantage (see my post: "Bad in Raleigh/Durham, NC").
The Valley is crowded, rude, overgrown, overpriced, and just plain nasty. But I'd kill to be there for a week or two, if I could convince my better half to do it. There's always at least a little more hope when you're closer to Sand Hill Road.
This area used to be a magnet for techies, and not just .com wanna-bes. VB knowledge? Yeah, fine, but we'd prefer people who know protocols, RTOSs, embedded systems, and how to successfully slap together high-availability servers and telecom gear, thank you very much.
But things have changed. It's not uncommon around here to see a Sam's Club manager who used to be a firmware engineer at one of the larger employers in Research Triangle Park. Some companies are even relocating, which is really weird, considering how cheap it is to live here (compared to SF, Boston, or even Atlanta). I know engineers, even ones without the standard obligations (family, kids, etc. etc.) who would rather wait tables than leave. Yes, this area really is that nice.
I'll be out on the street myself sometime this year, in all likelihood, so I'm looking around -- and it's pretty sad right now. I'm just hoping things pick up around here by the summer.
Note to interested employers: Digustingly skilled work force, cheaper to live here than most other places, three great universities nearby. Open a damn office here already!
Jesus christ you sexist twat
Nice non-sexist language from an elightened poster.
Wanna know the truth? It is harder for women to make it in software development and engineering. Almost every female acquaintance or friend I know of in the field has opted out. And most of these people entered the job market around the same time I did ('92). The only one I know who hasn't left for good is my wife, and she's seriously thinking about the MBA to get the fsck out of the development side of the software house.
Why the exodus? Well, a male-dominated culture does keep a woman from being "one of the guys"; it's very intimidating. I find out every day at the dinner table how emancipated geeks like yourself wind up behaving like arrogant silverbacks in the office.
And there's the whole hornet's nest of having kids. Yeah, yeah, I know, dads are involved here too -- but get back to me about this once Dad can get pregnant.
I have yet to meet a woman who found a career in software development to be truly rewarding, & I know of very very few who didn't get pissed off enough to leave (or stay out once they were exiled).
Yeah, this was flamebait, but, because I got my degree in the same town where the Rock is brewed, I'm required -- yeah, morally obligated -- to bitch.
Granted, RR isn't Hoeggarden or Orval's Trappist Ale, but it's a damn sight better than most of the mass-produced moose-piss that passes for lager in the USA.
Later,
-- CoffeeNowDammit (St. Vincent College class of '89..Go Stillers!)
"33"
I hope your only choices of nightlife in the future are Pagan singles bars (be they real Pagans or the motorcycle gang). The herd doth needeth thinning.
As a side note, I am NOT even CLOSE to a right-wing extremist so don't even TRY to rope me into that category.
Wouldn't dream of it *snicker*.
Yes.
Granted, every OS is a work in progress, but I've been playing with it for the past few days, and.. I look at my Linux box at work much differently.
GNOME, KDE, et. al. are toys compared to Aqua/Darwin. The only thing I need on my Mac is an X-Windows server, and a decent package manager, and I'm good to go. (v10.1 wouldn't hurt either.)
Sure, there are foibles here and there (speed is one issue), but.. damn it's a gorgeous Unix system.
Not only "yes", but "of course".
Granted, you have to meet certain criteria before contemplating such a feat:
Under such circumstances, it is not only your right to refuse to obey, but your moral obligation.
For further information, check out the works of Henry David Thoreau, Martin Luther King Jr., Mahondas Gandhi, and Thomas Merton. Don't simply break the law. If you do, you are likely to end up in jail. How does that help your cause of freedom?
It worked for King (he wrote "Letter from a Birmingham Jail" during that time) and Thoreau ("Walden" details HDT's time in the slammer for refusing to pay a poll tax).
BTW - God love you and longs for relationship with you.
And He entrusted you with conscience, free will, and, if you're lucky, the courage to use them.
".sig,
Adobe learned that Dmitry Sklyarov is slated to speak on July 15, 1001
And we trust those wacky knuckleheads at Adobe with encryption of literature, when they can't even get verb tense right.
Looks like it's time to boycott Adobe products, citing a "chilling effect" on the marketplace.
.sig a .sog, .sig out loud, .sig out .strog"
".sig,
Thank you, thank you, thank you for submitting this comment, whoever you are. It finally drives home the reality of the marketplace to the zealots who post here.
Folks, it's a sad fact that IS types and the blissfully computer-ignorant have a brand loyalty to Mickeysoft.. much in the same way that your elderly American relatives absolutely must drive Lincoln Continentals or buy WinModems.
Simply put: you or someone you know is spoiled and/or incredibly daft about the products being sold to you. Chances are, you don't want to know how something works, but you'll assert your divine right to cheap reliable consumer products, and you'll certainly buy whatever the media (or the box) tells you to -- forgetting the adages "if it sounds too good to be true etc. etc." in the process. That WinModem is $20 on the shelf at Fry's, a whole $80 less than that other modem. Hey, something for nothing, right? *snicker*
If you want Linux to succeed, sit down and take a good hard look at your VCR. Consider how many of the damn things blink "12:00" across this great land of ours. Then consider that most people don't want to know how the damn thing works.
It's a pity we can't mod a quote above 5...
.sig a .sog, .sig out loud, .sig out .strog"
".sig,
It should've been labelled "Funny".
.sig a .sog, .sig out loud, .sig out .strog"
Cuz it is. =-)
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True, almost.
Apple certainly is trying to jump on the Open Source bandwagon, no doubt. But from what I can tell, it isn't just hype. If they were ever to shy away from the open source strategy, it'll be because the strategy itself was a failure. For now though, developing for Darwin is easy as a registration and a download.
Give credit where it's due. The Apple of old would never have agreed to this sort of arrangement without the signing of large checks. This is a fairly bold (albeit late) march in another direction.
As for "attracting more people", well, duh. Apple needs every developer it can get..
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