take a look at all the Linux distros, Slackware & Debian take forever to get a distro out the door, Debian-Potato is the the only one Officially released, My computer does not run XFree86-3.x.x and Kernel Version 2.2.xx does not run well on it either, my computer is just too new for that older distro, Slackware-8 runs great on it because it uses XFree86-4.x.x & a choice of either a 2.2.x kernel or a 2.4.x kernel (I Choose 2.4.x). if Debian ever OFFICIALLY releases Woody i will send em a bunch of money for it on CD-r (i guess those Debian developers like to tinker with it too much) and when it is released it will run great!!!
on the other hand you have companies like Mandrake & SuSe that shove releases out the door every 6 months whether it is *really ready or not (bugs & all) i tried both and had nothing but grief from both Mandrake & SuSe,.,. Redhat is pretty good- i can live with it as a quick & easy distro to slam in a computer and be able to use with little or no trouble at all, it runs decently and stable enough...
now Windoze is completely a different can of worms because the last one i bought was Win98se back in 1999, it was ok- but nothing to write home about, when my brother bought WinME i looked at it and I seen it BSOD a hell of a lot and WinME did not show me anything worth upgrading to, i can not say much for WinXP and i never will since i found my Zen in computing with Linux, Happy-Trails:)
After reading most of the replys in this BBS here, I come to the conclusion that there are a bunch of M$FT astroturfers hanging out here...
Get real all you M$FT astroturfers, people are looking for alternative, and M$FT & Windoze is being pushed aside. Nobody wants to be milked for all their worth for a stinking OS & apps, Linux is making a viable arternative...
>Yeah, instead of making a one-time payment to >train your employees, you pay $150 a year per >employee for the latest and greatest version of >Windows. But wait, you still need Office, tack on >another few hundred.
>Virus scanner : $50/person.
>Administrator to reinstall after a new virus:
>$40k/year
>and it keeps going, and going, and going....>
EXACTLY! i wish more people would consider the rest of the hidden cost and liabilitys of running Windoze...
...when the internet is no longer a value to me I will open the cover and remove all networking devices and use my computer for offline purposes only, do these people think everyone is so damn dependant on the internet that everyone can not live without it? these people need to get real, civilization survived for thousands of years without the internet and can continue without the internet if necessary...
this is about right for a company that caters to customers of M$ Windoze, they cannot stoop low enough to increase their customer base, lie cheat & steal, anymore i avoid Windoze & Windoze commercial applications like the plague. i do have a old copy of Win98 that i gutted like a fish with "Revenge of Mozilla" just to keep the less than computer literate out of Linux...
M$FT and all those third party companys that cater to Windoze are all scumbag rabid dogs...
i had a job paying 10 bucks a hour, it was a stable and long term source of income, and was offered a federal job doing the same thing for almost twice the pay (in the construction industry), but i know this job offer would not last (maybe 6 to 12 months) so i did not take it, what would you rather do, make big bucks for a short time or make medium sized bucks for a long long long time...
a possible workaround could be to open preferences in Apperence\fonts uncheck "Allow Documents to use other fonts" i have not had the chance to try this out myself, as http://www.adeliesolutions.com/Projects/ will not load up for me to test this on...
does anyone need flash or infectedX (activex) or animated gif NO!!! it would suit me fine if all graphics were removed from the internet and all was just pure text, information and news is what i am after anyway...
450 MHz does not mean a lot (other than it is old), what OS & what desktop WM if it is linux? what all do you have running besides the browser...
some people never *really investigate why some app is running slow and they just whine about it, oh well one monkeyboy does not stop the show...
i would still trust mozilla before i would trust M$-IE even with mozills's bugs & all, look what you get with IE--> vulnerabilitys needing to be patched every week and it takes Micky$oft months to make a patch, IE= popup advertising, backbutton vulnerability, and dont forget cybercrooks & malicious websites can read & write to the Windoze OS thru IE...
with mozilla i have much better control of surfing the WWW where IE hands over control to the WWW...
450 MHz is starting to get long in the tooth...
how much RAM do you have, and how may other apps did you have running too...
some people bitch about software being slow & buggy and never consider the ancient computer they are running it on...
those four people that need to be found so mozilla.org can update their license???
i reccomend a house to house search in Redmond Wa. starting at bill gates & monkeyboy ballmer's house, they might have kidnapped em...
that the cost of WinXP & OfficeXP is more than most people make in a year in *some of these countrys can you blame them...
plus who want to locked in to a propriatory OS & applications that do not play well with other platforms and be dependant on one company for any patches & updates, M$FT & other propriatory OSs & software is just not worth it...
OpenSource is the only way to go, it is the future of computing...
before i start shoveling buckets of money to M$ for another M$ bug infested OS i will open the cover on my computer and remove all networking perifrials and use it strictly for offline use...
who's standards are you refering???
M$FT's prorpritary standards??? things that are not cross platform???
NO THANKS!!!
never underestimate the power of the Penguin...
OPenstandards is what Linux & OSS is all about, taking away the monopoly power of propriatary standards that M$FT has implemented in their OS...
multimedia applications for Linux is allways a good thing, it helps in the desktop enviroment, i been using Linux as a desktop for a while now, & am very satisfied, XMMS for mp3/ogg and with smpeg & smpeg-xmms it plays mpegs too, xawtv for my TV card works great, eroaster for burning CDs, Grip for ripping music CDs in to either ogg or mp3 files...
yeah i know, all you hardcore bash-2.05a$ users will bash me for those gui front ends, but Linux is really making progress on the desktop, why do you think M$FT is allways spreading FUD about Linux- because it is starting to make a really great desktop, and will be gouging the M$ monopoly soon...
yeah, GO Penguin power!!!
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take a look at all the Linux distros, Slackware & Debian take forever to get a distro out the door, Debian-Potato is the the only one Officially released, My computer does not run XFree86-3.x.x and Kernel Version 2.2.xx does not run well on it either, my computer is just too new for that older distro, Slackware-8 runs great on it because it uses XFree86-4.x.x & a choice of either a 2.2.x kernel or a 2.4.x kernel (I Choose 2.4.x). if Debian ever OFFICIALLY releases Woody i will send em a bunch of money for it on CD-r (i guess those Debian developers like to tinker with it too much) and when it is released it will run great!!! on the other hand you have companies like Mandrake & SuSe that shove releases out the door every 6 months whether it is *really ready or not (bugs & all) i tried both and had nothing but grief from both Mandrake & SuSe,.,. Redhat is pretty good- i can live with it as a quick & easy distro to slam in a computer and be able to use with little or no trouble at all, it runs decently and stable enough... now Windoze is completely a different can of worms because the last one i bought was Win98se back in 1999, it was ok- but nothing to write home about, when my brother bought WinME i looked at it and I seen it BSOD a hell of a lot and WinME did not show me anything worth upgrading to, i can not say much for WinXP and i never will since i found my Zen in computing with Linux, Happy-Trails :)
p2p can be good if software with parasites attached like Kazaa were not used, (yeah i know about Kazaa-lite)...
After reading most of the replys in this BBS here, I come to the conclusion that there are a bunch of M$FT astroturfers hanging out here... Get real all you M$FT astroturfers, people are looking for alternative, and M$FT & Windoze is being pushed aside. Nobody wants to be milked for all their worth for a stinking OS & apps, Linux is making a viable arternative...
>Yeah, instead of making a one-time payment to >train your employees, you pay $150 a year per >employee for the latest and greatest version of >Windows. But wait, you still need Office, tack on >another few hundred. >Virus scanner : $50/person. >Administrator to reinstall after a new virus: >$40k/year >and it keeps going, and going, and going....> EXACTLY! i wish more people would consider the rest of the hidden cost and liabilitys of running Windoze...
In spite of my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage...
i hope M$FT does not get involved in this, what if the computer BSODs when someone is in mid transport??? better get Linux to run it...
...when the internet is no longer a value to me I will open the cover and remove all networking devices and use my computer for offline purposes only, do these people think everyone is so damn dependant on the internet that everyone can not live without it? these people need to get real, civilization survived for thousands of years without the internet and can continue without the internet if necessary...
is it better than those Xray glasses on the back cover of comicbooks???
good ol Mozilla allready won (on my desktop)
this will put M$FT's pantys in a bunch...
this is about right for a company that caters to customers of M$ Windoze, they cannot stoop low enough to increase their customer base, lie cheat & steal, anymore i avoid Windoze & Windoze commercial applications like the plague. i do have a old copy of Win98 that i gutted like a fish with "Revenge of Mozilla" just to keep the less than computer literate out of Linux... M$FT and all those third party companys that cater to Windoze are all scumbag rabid dogs...
i had a job paying 10 bucks a hour, it was a stable and long term source of income, and was offered a federal job doing the same thing for almost twice the pay (in the construction industry), but i know this job offer would not last (maybe 6 to 12 months) so i did not take it, what would you rather do, make big bucks for a short time or make medium sized bucks for a long long long time...
a possible workaround could be to open preferences in Apperence\fonts uncheck "Allow Documents to use other fonts" i have not had the chance to try this out myself, as http://www.adeliesolutions.com/Projects/ will not load up for me to test this on...
does anyone need flash or infectedX (activex) or animated gif NO!!! it would suit me fine if all graphics were removed from the internet and all was just pure text, information and news is what i am after anyway...
450 MHz does not mean a lot (other than it is old), what OS & what desktop WM if it is linux? what all do you have running besides the browser... some people never *really investigate why some app is running slow and they just whine about it, oh well one monkeyboy does not stop the show...
i would still trust mozilla before i would trust M$-IE even with mozills's bugs & all, look what you get with IE--> vulnerabilitys needing to be patched every week and it takes Micky$oft months to make a patch, IE= popup advertising, backbutton vulnerability, and dont forget cybercrooks & malicious websites can read & write to the Windoze OS thru IE... with mozilla i have much better control of surfing the WWW where IE hands over control to the WWW...
450 MHz is starting to get long in the tooth... how much RAM do you have, and how may other apps did you have running too... some people bitch about software being slow & buggy and never consider the ancient computer they are running it on...
those four people that need to be found so mozilla.org can update their license??? i reccomend a house to house search in Redmond Wa. starting at bill gates & monkeyboy ballmer's house, they might have kidnapped em...
for a graphics intense website they done an exellent job, kudos to their webdesigners...
that the cost of WinXP & OfficeXP is more than most people make in a year in *some of these countrys can you blame them... plus who want to locked in to a propriatory OS & applications that do not play well with other platforms and be dependant on one company for any patches & updates, M$FT & other propriatory OSs & software is just not worth it... OpenSource is the only way to go, it is the future of computing...
before i start shoveling buckets of money to M$ for another M$ bug infested OS i will open the cover on my computer and remove all networking perifrials and use it strictly for offline use...
who's standards are you refering??? M$FT's prorpritary standards??? things that are not cross platform??? NO THANKS!!! never underestimate the power of the Penguin... OPenstandards is what Linux & OSS is all about, taking away the monopoly power of propriatary standards that M$FT has implemented in their OS...
multimedia applications for Linux is allways a good thing, it helps in the desktop enviroment, i been using Linux as a desktop for a while now, & am very satisfied, XMMS for mp3/ogg and with smpeg & smpeg-xmms it plays mpegs too, xawtv for my TV card works great, eroaster for burning CDs, Grip for ripping music CDs in to either ogg or mp3 files... yeah i know, all you hardcore bash-2.05a$ users will bash me for those gui front ends, but Linux is really making progress on the desktop, why do you think M$FT is allways spreading FUD about Linux- because it is starting to make a really great desktop, and will be gouging the M$ monopoly soon... yeah, GO Penguin power!!! Linux is #1
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