Freon is harder to get than pot. Other refrigerant gasses are doable.
Compressor systems using various refrigerants (including freon) have been used for quite a while. They work. All those top 20 scores in 3dmark/futuremark are usually kryotech/asetech/custom vapochill(compressor&refrig gas), overclocked systems. Back when Tom's Hardware was showing us what a 1GHz(woot) Athlon (c2000-2001) could do they used a commercialy produced (and purchasable) Kryotek (became Asetek) system like this to achieve their mighty overclock.
The weakness of this kind of system is increased mechanical complexity to the cooling method and a corresponding increase in catastrophic failure. It works, produces fantastic overclocks, but you don't want to use it for anything more than a gaming machine. Watercooling is more forgiving; if a pump fails as you don't loose ALL of your cooling. Even more reliable are heatpipes as they can have no moving parts at all if the radiator/heat exchanger is large enough.
Until fairly recently watercoolng provided the best bang for the buck. Coupled with inline or parallel TECs/Peltiers, pump driven liquid cooling allows sub-ambient heat exchange that could be implemented in the a-la-cart systems prefered by 3l33t overclockers.
The "latest" thing is the heatsiphon. It is a combination of watercooling hardware (waterblock, hoses and radiator) and the physics of a heatpipe. Think: what if I ommit the pump but use ethanol as a coolant. Joe the overclocker can build this in his parent's basement. It is extemely reliable. It might even be able to dissapate the extra heat of a TEC tht would gie you the sub-ambient temps needed for a BeyondRetailTM cpu overclock.
Oh, and if you aren't trying to overclock then all of this is a neurotic compulsion. What you need is a big alluminum/copper heatsink and a quiet 120mm ducted fan that keeps your cpu under 70C.
Phalanx has been around for a long time, since the '80s I think. The navy uses it to shoot missles out of the sky with a 20mm Vulcan cannon. If you've played BF2, it's that gun mounted on the aircraft carrier. Except in RL it's automated.
Yes I see now. Hitmancomputers web page is ugly and has an amatuer photographer. Where as the billnoll sight is very nice and uses professionaly prepared images. So THAT's what build quality means, pretty pictures.
Years back they came up with speedball, an arena version of paintball designed for spectators. It used to be on tv lots (espn and oln type networks) but its been 3-4 years since I saw it on the tube.
Well I can tell you I've installed AVG free on >300 computers this year. Me. By myself. Basicly if I run into a homeuser client with an expired licence of some AV software that came with their computer they get a copy of AVGfree... 5 so far, this week. I'm numb to the mindless use of computers. Everybody gets AVG, MS-AS, and a real freakin firewall.
I hope Intel understands the value of AVG being free cause these morons would rather be plague carriers than pay for something other than a quick fix.
More from the early '80s (west coast boy of Dundracon/GrimCon heritage)...
Metamorphisis Alpha Gamma World Space Opera Aftermath (I think everyone who played Morrow Project tried this one as well) Spectrum (used a d1000 and many charts for combat resolution) Star Fleet Battles (kzinti!) ok not a RPG, sue me. Arduin Grimoire (SciFi/Fantasy... no orcs, but deodanths and phraints) Mekton II Road Striker (even better) Teenagers from Outer Space (the origonal (only?) anime rpg game) Cyberpunk
Not sci-fi but probably deserves the title for best RPG of all time
Rune Quest II (before they sold it to Avalon Hill)
It's at least a decade and a half older than those funny links. It was a "cure" for "stiction" IIRC that would occur if you left a 5" HDD off for too long (such as being stored for a year in the warehouse) and then tried to get data off the system.
Of course now people will try it any time a drive fails as some kind of cure all but almost all compuvoodoo cures start out this way.
1) Don't ask me to break the law.
a) you ain't getting a free copy of windows
b) I ain't gonna unlock your cable
c) I'm not going to hack your neighbor's wifi.
2) I'm not paid to be a cop
a) the cable company has no buisness this side of the cable modem.
b) you are entitled to fair use of your copyrighted software.
Bottom line is I'm your advocate, not your fall guy.
Fuel cells will bring some change to the duration and amount of power supplied to notebooks. Fuel cells will have a service life that is different than that of current batteries. They will cost a different ammount as well. I'm still waiting for values to plug into those unknowns. I'll get back to you on that.
And I raise you one PHB. They call em PHBs for a reason. A secretary can be eduterrorised into not downloading crap. The management and executives will do it over and over... god bless em.
If you can upgrade this way it is great. I see more instances of incompatability between old versions of motherboards with a given socket design than compatability. Mostly it seems that old boards can't supply the wattage needed by a new processor reliably (lower voltage higher amperage) even assuming they do support a bump in FSB speed.
KT7A was a good board for this but the KT7 (the board available when duron 800s came out) was not. I went with a A7V133 (another KT133A mobo) around this time as my older A7V didn't support a 133FSB and missed out on Athlon XP compatability. The board just wasn't stable with them. The next revision (I think it was 1.05. or something) worked fine with AXP but that board revision was only a couple of months younger than the CPU it supported.
However, it's pretty sweet when you can pull off several generations of upgrades. I had the best luck upgrading slot1 i440BX boards. There was a lot of effort put into keeping these boards upgradable by 3rd parties and it was pretty cheap to do so. A slotket adapter was cheap and many supplied addl power to keep newer cpus stable. Later S370 boards had the promise of upgradability but suffered from most of the same upgrading issues encountered when trying to upgrade SocketA systems.
For me the issue isn't VOIP's reliabiliy, it's my ISP's reliability. My Comcast service goes down AT LEAST once per month and when it goes down, it usualy stays down for 24 hours or more. So, for me at least, VOIP isn't an option.
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Freon is harder to get than pot. Other refrigerant gasses are doable.
Compressor systems using various refrigerants (including freon) have been used for quite a while. They work. All those top 20 scores in 3dmark/futuremark are usually kryotech/asetech/custom vapochill(compressor&refrig gas), overclocked systems. Back when Tom's Hardware was showing us what a 1GHz(woot) Athlon (c2000-2001) could do they used a commercialy produced (and purchasable) Kryotek (became Asetek) system like this to achieve their mighty overclock.
The weakness of this kind of system is increased mechanical complexity to the cooling method and a corresponding increase in catastrophic failure. It works, produces fantastic overclocks, but you don't want to use it for anything more than a gaming machine. Watercooling is more forgiving; if a pump fails as you don't loose ALL of your cooling. Even more reliable are heatpipes as they can have no moving parts at all if the radiator/heat exchanger is large enough.
Until fairly recently watercoolng provided the best bang for the buck. Coupled with inline or parallel TECs/Peltiers, pump driven liquid cooling allows sub-ambient heat exchange that could be implemented in the a-la-cart systems prefered by 3l33t overclockers.
The "latest" thing is the heatsiphon. It is a combination of watercooling hardware (waterblock, hoses and radiator) and the physics of a heatpipe. Think: what if I ommit the pump but use ethanol as a coolant. Joe the overclocker can build this in his parent's basement. It is extemely reliable. It might even be able to dissapate the extra heat of a TEC tht would gie you the sub-ambient temps needed for a BeyondRetailTM cpu overclock.
Oh, and if you aren't trying to overclock then all of this is a neurotic compulsion. What you need is a big alluminum/copper heatsink and a quiet 120mm ducted fan that keeps your cpu under 70C.
This whole thread is crap. The article is crap. The responses are crap. The responses to the responses are crap. Except yours and mine of course. ;)
1280x1040 @ 60Hz also describes a 17"-19" LCD monitor.
Phalanx has been around for a long time, since the '80s I think. The navy uses it to shoot missles out of the sky with a 20mm Vulcan cannon. If you've played BF2, it's that gun mounted on the aircraft carrier. Except in RL it's automated.
do you digg it?
You don't suppose he meant the Camaarrgh?
Yes I see now. Hitmancomputers web page is ugly and has an amatuer photographer. Where as the billnoll sight is very nice and uses professionaly prepared images. So THAT's what build quality means, pretty pictures.
Years back they came up with speedball, an arena version of paintball designed for spectators. It used to be on tv lots (espn and oln type networks) but its been 3-4 years since I saw it on the tube.
Seemed to work for Edison.
Well I can tell you I've installed AVG free on >300 computers this year. Me. By myself. Basicly if I run into a homeuser client with an expired licence of some AV software that came with their computer they get a copy of AVGfree... 5 so far, this week. I'm numb to the mindless use of computers. Everybody gets AVG, MS-AS, and a real freakin firewall.
I hope Intel understands the value of AVG being free cause these morons would rather be plague carriers than pay for something other than a quick fix.
Lnkplskthx jk
Well if everyone buys a different brand that doesn't use a patent, then the compan(y/ies) that use the patent will go out of buisness.
I know what you meant tho...
No but I wondered if the car stereo is made by Sorny or Parasonic.
More from the early '80s (west coast boy of Dundracon/GrimCon heritage) ...
Metamorphisis Alpha
Gamma World
Space Opera
Aftermath (I think everyone who played Morrow Project tried this one as well)
Spectrum (used a d1000 and many charts for combat resolution)
Star Fleet Battles (kzinti!) ok not a RPG, sue me.
Arduin Grimoire (SciFi/Fantasy... no orcs, but deodanths and phraints)
Mekton II
Road Striker (even better)
Teenagers from Outer Space (the origonal (only?) anime rpg game)
Cyberpunk
Not sci-fi but probably deserves the title for best RPG of all time
Rune Quest II (before they sold it to Avalon Hill)
It's at least a decade and a half older than those funny links. It was a "cure" for "stiction" IIRC that would occur if you left a 5" HDD off for too long (such as being stored for a year in the warehouse) and then tried to get data off the system.
Of course now people will try it any time a drive fails as some kind of cure all but almost all compuvoodoo cures start out this way.
1) Don't ask me to break the law. a) you ain't getting a free copy of windows b) I ain't gonna unlock your cable c) I'm not going to hack your neighbor's wifi. 2) I'm not paid to be a cop a) the cable company has no buisness this side of the cable modem. b) you are entitled to fair use of your copyrighted software. Bottom line is I'm your advocate, not your fall guy.
What can I get for $10 Anything you want.
Maybe, but doing the Kessel run in only .012kpc sounds much faster.
Fuel cells will bring some change to the duration and amount of power supplied to notebooks. Fuel cells will have a service life that is different than that of current batteries. They will cost a different ammount as well. I'm still waiting for values to plug into those unknowns. I'll get back to you on that.
And I raise you one PHB. They call em PHBs for a reason. A secretary can be eduterrorised into not downloading crap. The management and executives will do it over and over... god bless em.
If you can upgrade this way it is great. I see more instances of incompatability between old versions of motherboards with a given socket design than compatability. Mostly it seems that old boards can't supply the wattage needed by a new processor reliably (lower voltage higher amperage) even assuming they do support a bump in FSB speed.
KT7A was a good board for this but the KT7 (the board available when duron 800s came out) was not. I went with a A7V133 (another KT133A mobo) around this time as my older A7V didn't support a 133FSB and missed out on Athlon XP compatability. The board just wasn't stable with them. The next revision (I think it was 1.05. or something) worked fine with AXP but that board revision was only a couple of months younger than the CPU it supported.
However, it's pretty sweet when you can pull off several generations of upgrades. I had the best luck upgrading slot1 i440BX boards. There was a lot of effort put into keeping these boards upgradable by 3rd parties and it was pretty cheap to do so. A slotket adapter was cheap and many supplied addl power to keep newer cpus stable. Later S370 boards had the promise of upgradability but suffered from most of the same upgrading issues encountered when trying to upgrade SocketA systems.
http://www.threebrain.com/weeeeee.shtml
Wow! You can do ANYTHING at zombocom!
For me the issue isn't VOIP's reliabiliy, it's my ISP's reliability. My Comcast service goes down AT LEAST once per month and when it goes down, it usualy stays down for 24 hours or more. So, for me at least, VOIP isn't an option.
"Would like to quite it?" Beg your pardon?