openvms is very secure. as such any organization which needs high security will benefit. they're different modes of interaction seem very beneficial. perhaps *nixes could learn a thing or two about security from the ideas about openvms.
it's like this, search for a security hole in *nixes at bugtraq. now, search for a whole in vms. you'll see what i mean.
but, the primary node is still going to what everyone is syncronizing off of. so if node b say gets unsyncronized, and node d randomly syncs with node b, then node d is out of sync as well as node b. this brings a whole mess of out of sync nodes. then supposed node c comes in and syncs off the primary node. node c is in sync. now b randomly selects c, so it gets synced, but c stays synced, b is now synced, and eventually d will become synced since it won't randomly select itself. therefore, eventually being synced off of b/c/primary. hence synced
it's very sad, and my sympathy to those who lost loved ones.
on a lighter side... since it was the columbia's last mission.. at least it went out with a bang!
(i'm sorry, i just couldn't resist) my condolences.
though, not all penquins live in there. though it's true that there are penquins on the cold continent, there are also warm weather penquins in south america, and south africa. natively however, no penquins make their homes in north america (unless i misread my source)
they are just as expensive as new pcs these days. if you look at the price of a new non mac notebook, say a ibm thinkpad, you'll pay no less than $1600. on the other hand you can buy the lowest end 12" powerbook for $999
a 19 or 21 inch screen compared to the BIG silver screen for the first time just isn't worth it. even if this story were true (again, probably not) nothing beats the atmosphere of seeing a movie in a theatre. at least for me.
Agreed with Slackware Unleased. I also like all of the O'Reilly books. Especially Running Linux.
As for how to show off linux, I'd go with the latest stable KDE with some fancy schmancy neato theme, and show the fact that you can play decent games on it. Lots of people love to play games and might be intrigued to try Linux if they 1) had the idea that KDE or GNOME is similar to what they are used to. 2) They know that they can play their Popular games such as Quake 3 Arena, etc. 3) Know that programs such as Acrobat reader, real player, and xmms (a winamp looking program) are available, since they are fairly popular.
4) Its alot, but, showing an Outlook clone, OpenOffice, and other needed software is another thing.
Basically show the world that switching to Linux based software does not require sacrafice, or at least as much sacrafice as many people believe.
this promises to be interesting... if people do start to use it in the Windows world, there's bound to be no support for platforms such as linux, bsd, etc. so when some hacker gets frustrated that he can't read this xdoc format, he'll reverse engineer it, m$ claims that copyrights were violated, and BAM lawsuit.
this lawsuit then in turn gives the opensource community a bad rep because they "infringe" on other peoples property rights. Then microsoft will release the old explorer code (since they have there new browser) so that microsoft looks like it's beginning to see the light. Microsoft looks good to the public, their lawsuits and court troubles are forgotten because they don't seem to be monopolizing anymore (giving away source and all) and their name is cleared. or so it seems....
why not setup an nfs server, and mount/home from that? then you could use something like ugh.. yellowpages for logins, etc. that way you don't have to worry about any body screwing around, since you can mount the rest of the system ro, and they will have their home directory which you could use perl scripts or something else to check disk usages and stuff.. and disable the accounts of offenders... it's not a simple solution, but it's one which would probably work out pretty well. the netbooting ideas are also a good thought.
joking right? you don't want to install 40 different computers. that's way time consuming, and then if you need to change something, you have to change it on 40 different computers. the other solutions mentioned here, are way better than taking a leap to installing a 3-4 cd system on each computer. ugh.
yes. now we see what red hat has been looking to do since the beginning. it's looking to take something and make it theres. you have two awesome things, in kde and gnome, and red hat brands them both as if red hat made them. not giving credit to the people who put all this hard work into it every single night. also, who is very much synonymous with linux to new users? red hat. red hat was the company (along side of valinux) who hit big in the stock market. anybody in business will know red hat, but will they know debian or slack? not, unless they really dive into this mysterious world which is the linux saga. only then do new users see that there are many many more choices. (maybe sitting on the shelf next to them, and maybe they will buy non-red hat, but what made them come to the store? a little guy wearing a red hat.) there is a reason that red hat has a majority of the linux public. it's because of association. people immediately associate linux with red hat. i work in a computer lab, and when people ask me to install linux for them, i ask which distro? and they look at me with a blank stare and say, huh? this maybe only happens here, i don't know.
belly up? you'll have your degree to fall back on. not every employer is going to give you a job based on the fact that you know alot... they still look for the peice of paper...
The GPL is far from perfect, but it offers a hacker solution to a problem which other hackers are faced with. After reading Free as in Free as in Freedom I have seen how and why it came about, and agree with almost 100% of it. But there are some things which might make me think twice about releasing software under it. Though I would probably release it anyway.
i agree with people saying it's not the greatest nor the worst distribution. we use it where i work for a few reasons. #1 is the fact that it's friendly for new to linux people to install. linux installers have come along way, and mandrake and redhat seem to be the best (well, maybe suse as well). #2 much of our installations (about 70 computers) rely on scripts which assume that services are started on boot. if this doesn't happen then our scripts don't exactly make things easier. #3 the sys-admins here don't like to try different things. they like to stick with "standards"
i personally don't like redhat for a few reasons. rpm doesn't work worth a crap. it doesn't set up paths right, for where it puts stuff when it installs. which means you need to manually set it up. and a bunch of other nitpicky stuff.
if you were replying to me. you misunderstood. i know patches in the open source community are released extremely quickly. i was stating the fact that microsofts software is never ready to be released when they do release it, which is where some of their problems stem from. they wouldn't have to patch, and patch and patch and release 18 meg service packs on the first day of release if they did it at least almost right the first time. then however, the missed mistakes need to be fixed sooner, which you stated.
haha... why should anyone be surprised? this happens time and time again and will continue to happen until microsoft sees the light and figures out that they don't write good software.
if they would go through the software development method looking for flaws in their design or code in the first place we'd have significantly less problems.
the other problem is that they try to get their software out before it's ready. this leaves all sorts of bugs that maybe would have been fixed. look at xp's first day service pack? how can anyone say that it was ready to be shipped when it did.
i don't mind waiting for software as long as it's worth waiting for. in the case of microsoft none of their software is worth waiting for, because they dont' wait long enough to put it out.
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openvms is very secure. as such any organization which needs high security will benefit. they're different modes of interaction seem very beneficial. perhaps *nixes could learn a thing or two about security from the ideas about openvms.
it's like this, search for a security hole in *nixes at bugtraq. now, search for a whole in vms. you'll see what i mean.
but, the primary node is still going to what everyone is syncronizing off of. so if node b say gets unsyncronized, and node d randomly syncs with node b, then node d is out of sync as well as node b. this brings a whole mess of out of sync nodes. then supposed node c comes in and syncs off the primary node. node c is in sync. now b randomly selects c, so it gets synced, but c stays synced, b is now synced, and eventually d will become synced since it won't randomly select itself. therefore, eventually being synced off of b/c/primary. hence synced
it's very sad, and my sympathy to those who lost loved ones. on a lighter side... since it was the columbia's last mission.. at least it went out with a bang! (i'm sorry, i just couldn't resist) my condolences.
though, not all penquins live in there. though it's true that there are penquins on the cold continent, there are also warm weather penquins in south america, and south africa. natively however, no penquins make their homes in north america (unless i misread my source)
they are just as expensive as new pcs these days. if you look at the price of a new non mac notebook, say a ibm thinkpad, you'll pay no less than $1600. on the other hand you can buy the lowest end 12" powerbook for $999
but, i've been stuck with 10 for years now.
having gone down the road less traveled and living to tell about it, what have you learned about your self through all of this?
just support for the format in say another media player? then there wouldn't need to be a whole new client for it.
except that if your data was encrypted, your screwed unless theres a work around to decrypt it without the authentication.
a 19 or 21 inch screen compared to the BIG silver screen for the first time just isn't worth it. even if this story were true (again, probably not) nothing beats the atmosphere of seeing a movie in a theatre. at least for me.
Agreed with Slackware Unleased. I also like all of the O'Reilly books. Especially Running Linux.
As for how to show off linux, I'd go with the latest stable KDE with some fancy schmancy neato theme, and show the fact that you can play decent games on it. Lots of people love to play games and might be intrigued to try Linux if they 1) had the idea that KDE or GNOME is similar to what they are used to. 2) They know that they can play their Popular games such as Quake 3 Arena, etc. 3) Know that programs such as Acrobat reader, real player, and xmms (a winamp looking program) are available, since they are fairly popular. 4) Its alot, but, showing an Outlook clone, OpenOffice, and other needed software is another thing.
Basically show the world that switching to Linux based software does not require sacrafice, or at least as much sacrafice as many people believe.
a weapon where we don't have to wait for destruction.
this promises to be interesting... if people do start to use it in the Windows world, there's bound to be no support for platforms such as linux, bsd, etc. so when some hacker gets frustrated that he can't read this xdoc format, he'll reverse engineer it, m$ claims that copyrights were violated, and BAM lawsuit.
this lawsuit then in turn gives the opensource community a bad rep because they "infringe" on other peoples property rights. Then microsoft will release the old explorer code (since they have there new browser) so that microsoft looks like it's beginning to see the light. Microsoft looks good to the public, their lawsuits and court troubles are forgotten because they don't seem to be monopolizing anymore (giving away source and all) and their name is cleared. or so it seems....
he'll make them see the light.
ahh.. geek cruises.. a wonderful way to spend money that i don't have.. (which is why i'm not floating as well)
Full clothes on: triangle, square, circle, x,x,x start, select, up, down , left , right , start
why not setup an nfs server, and mount /home from that? then you could use something like ugh.. yellowpages for logins, etc. that way you don't have to worry about any body screwing around, since you can mount the rest of the system ro, and they will have their home directory which you could use perl scripts or something else to check disk usages and stuff.. and disable the accounts of offenders... it's not a simple solution, but it's one which would probably work out pretty well. the netbooting ideas are also a good thought.
joking right? you don't want to install 40 different computers. that's way time consuming, and then if you need to change something, you have to change it on 40 different computers. the other solutions mentioned here, are way better than taking a leap to installing a 3-4 cd system on each computer. ugh.
yes. now we see what red hat has been looking to do since the beginning. it's looking to take something and make it theres. you have two awesome things, in kde and gnome, and red hat brands them both as if red hat made them. not giving credit to the people who put all this hard work into it every single night. also, who is very much synonymous with linux to new users? red hat. red hat was the company (along side of valinux) who hit big in the stock market. anybody in business will know red hat, but will they know debian or slack? not, unless they really dive into this mysterious world which is the linux saga. only then do new users see that there are many many more choices. (maybe sitting on the shelf next to them, and maybe they will buy non-red hat, but what made them come to the store? a little guy wearing a red hat.) there is a reason that red hat has a majority of the linux public. it's because of association. people immediately associate linux with red hat. i work in a computer lab, and when people ask me to install linux for them, i ask which distro? and they look at me with a blank stare and say, huh? this maybe only happens here, i don't know.
belly up? you'll have your degree to fall back on. not every employer is going to give you a job based on the fact that you know alot... they still look for the peice of paper...
The GPL is far from perfect, but it offers a hacker solution to a problem which other hackers are faced with. After reading Free as in Free as in Freedom I have seen how and why it came about, and agree with almost 100% of it. But there are some things which might make me think twice about releasing software under it. Though I would probably release it anyway.
i agree with people saying it's not the greatest nor the worst distribution. we use it where i work for a few reasons. #1 is the fact that it's friendly for new to linux people to install. linux installers have come along way, and mandrake and redhat seem to be the best (well, maybe suse as well). #2 much of our installations (about 70 computers) rely on scripts which assume that services are started on boot. if this doesn't happen then our scripts don't exactly make things easier. #3 the sys-admins here don't like to try different things. they like to stick with "standards"
i personally don't like redhat for a few reasons. rpm doesn't work worth a crap. it doesn't set up paths right, for where it puts stuff when it installs. which means you need to manually set it up. and a bunch of other nitpicky stuff.
sorry, i didnt read the post before and assumed you didn't read mine correctly.
if you were replying to me. you misunderstood. i know patches in the open source community are released extremely quickly. i was stating the fact that microsofts software is never ready to be released when they do release it, which is where some of their problems stem from. they wouldn't have to patch, and patch and patch and release 18 meg service packs on the first day of release if they did it at least almost right the first time. then however, the missed mistakes need to be fixed sooner, which you stated.
haha... why should anyone be surprised? this happens time and time again and will continue to happen until microsoft sees the light and figures out that they don't write good software. if they would go through the software development method looking for flaws in their design or code in the first place we'd have significantly less problems. the other problem is that they try to get their software out before it's ready. this leaves all sorts of bugs that maybe would have been fixed. look at xp's first day service pack? how can anyone say that it was ready to be shipped when it did. i don't mind waiting for software as long as it's worth waiting for. in the case of microsoft none of their software is worth waiting for, because they dont' wait long enough to put it out.