Ugg this makes me so mad, everytime mozilla releases a new version the dont release the src until 72 hours later, its so annoying. I use gentoo and I like to just modify the old ebuild to download the new src, but if its not avalible I cant install it!
Gezz! Come on mozilla! I dont want the binaries I want the src!
Anata no namae wa non desu ka?
What is your name?
watashi wa dreamcast Linux ga suki desu!
I like dreamcase linux!
watashi wa DC Braudband adapter ga suki desu!
same as above:-)
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I believe redhat should Pick a desktop that makes it easiest for new users to feel like home, of course they can use what ever windowmanager they want but they need to have a default..
Gnome 2 in Redhat limbo 3 (null) looks damn nice...
But so does my kde-cvs desktop... So it doesnt matter..
I just wish they would lable Mozilla as Internet Browser, and evolution "Email" and simple easy to find names. New users have problems finding a webbrowser if its called mozilla.:-)
and if your a elite user try gentoo or debian...
I could animate some gifs that look more realistic than that movie:-)
But I would add an explosion or something at the end to scare people:-) (and some space ships)
Very cool though!
they do not make binary drivers for linux ppc..
Also the Mach bsd kernel is full of lantancy code.
Aqua will be slower than Xwindows, its not as streamlined.
okay first off I agree and disagree. Macosx should be compaired to the fatest distro around **cough** mandrake. I have been working with a friend to install macosx on his g4 400mhz, its a very quick machine. he was running macos9.1. The reason he decided to upgrade was because we installed linux. He loved it, it ran faster than Macos9 but i couldnt get dri to work because he had a geforce 2 mx. No 3d drivers. So he loved the Linux but couldnt deal with not having any kind of 3d. So we headed to compusa. We saw 10.1 on the shelf and bought it and brought it home. (we also bought a new 40gb ide 7200 wd drive) so I helped him install it, and it looked beautiful, but the first thing we noticed was how slow it was. it was alot slower than linux and macos9. to test it we installed quake3, and did a timedemo with enable_fps on. the macosx machine was about 23% slower. So we tried to upgrade it to 10.1.4 and still had the same problem. Also there were little things that bugged me. Nothing was installed into its standard place, like apache for example, it was all over the place, and they renamed all the config files, so the only way to use apache was though the gui. (not cool) then it came to the shell the terminal.app was running, tcsh!!! I hate tcsh! I dont like bash much either but its alot better than tcsh! With tcsh you cant even mv blah/somewhere/blah because it doesnt understand what your trying to do. So I upgraded the terminal to zsh by installing fink. so once I got the terminal working correctly i ran "top" and I was amazed on how much aqua was taking up memory!! People, look at top!!! I have never seen a gui take up so much ram, and if you moved the mouse over a icon the cpu would shoot up to about 90%! So my friend and I decided to just use macos9 for the time being. and dual boot into macosx if he needed to. So I was searching online and I found a article on google about macosx 10.2 beta, so I headed to irc and downloaded the development version. and had him install it. IT is soooooo much better! things are installed in the correct places, aqua has changed from slow to quite fast. Memory is not being sucked away. And Macosx has done a u turn. Even Quake3 is almost as fast as OS9. He is a happy man.
So I would recommend upgrading to 10.2 before you go around bashing.
I have noticed over the past 3 years that people dont see the beauty of linux.
they know that its free and that its under a GPL licence and blah blah blah.
But they dont know how friendly linux can be.
It has everything you can think of.
It has games, the list is to long list, but thanks to transgaming.com the most popular games are working.
GTA3 and Warcraft III to name a few.
and how NWN.
Linux has amazing driver support, almost every video card I can think of is supported by xfree86.
Either with 2d support or 3d support with dri.
Nvidia makes drivers for linux that are better than the windows counterparts. Tomshardware.com has proved this in a couple of their benchmarks.
Chipsets, networkcards, soundcards, software/hardware RAID, tv-cards, EVERY THING is supported with linux
Linux also has the opensource advantage, if you dont like it, fix it.
for example, I have been using WindowMaker for years, its been great to me, but I have been noticing that kde has gotten better and better, but every time I try it I get annoyed because it didnt have a feature I wanted that Windowmaker had, I wanted to be able to shade and unshade windows by putting the mouse on the top bar and scrolling up and down. This feature was not included with kde3 so I never used it. So I was talking to some buddies of mine, and I mentioned that it sucked not having that feature, and with in 10 min, my buddy got the feature working with the latest cvs of KDE3. Here is the patch http://linux.darylstimm.com/kwin-wm.patch
Now kde 3 has everything that Windowmaker has plus tons more, and I can finally run KDE apps at the speed they were intended to be ran at. nothing worse than waiting 10 seconds for konq to load.
Kde3 and Gnome 2 are very very good for the newbie. I have my sister running kde 3 and she has no problems at all.
She loves it.
Linux also has great browsers, 3 years ago that was not the case, but currently I think they are better than IE. Mozilla and Konq look beautiful with Anti Alaised fonts, and tabbed browsing. I cant ask for anything more.
But one thing I do have to say, is that linux is only good if you have the right distro, a distro that can deliver uptodateness, stabity, ease of use and Speed. So far the only distro that I have found to do this is Gentoo Linux. Gentoo Linux is wonderful, its by far the fastest distro on the block, it compiles everything from source and downloads dependencies for you so you will never see dependency hell. It has very uptodate packages, if a program is released it normally takes gentoo 5 hours before its in gentoo due to the amount of users that gentoo has. And if for some reason its not in portage you can simply make your own ebuild (a ebuild is a bash script that tells portage how to compile the program and what dependencies it has).
So if Gaim 0.60 came out I could just cp/usr/portage/net-im/gaim/gaim-0.59.ebuild/usr/portage/net-im/gaim/gaim-0.60.ebuild, and I then have gaim 0.60!
Just that easy!
No more waiting for redhat or debian to update and make packages.
Say you dont want to wait all day for gentoo linux to be installed, you can use their stage 3 packages, which is binary based and you can get everything installed very fast and easily.
there is nothing easier than emerge package to install a package.
Also Gentoo has grown so much its currently the biggest channel on irc.openprojects.net, even bigger than debian.
I dont recommend gentoo to people that dont have a p3 or higher and I dont recommend gentoo to newbies. But if I had to recommend a distro I would say Redhat Limbo 2 or Mandrake 9 beta 3, to the newbie and slackware to the person that has a slower system.
Linux also has openoffice, koffice, abiword, gnumeric, and tons of other Office type programs that can read and modify Microsoft doc files. and they are getting better and better.
With Winex and Wine we can finally start showing windows people the benifits of Linux, if the are suck using windows because one of their favorite apps doesnt work in linux, they can try wine or winex. most of the time you can get the program to run at native speeds, but I still recommend for users to try searching freshmeat.net for replacements of their favorite apps. because 9 times out of 10 linux already has something that will replace that windows app.
Linux has finally gotten some pretty good video and sound editing software, Cinelerra 1.0, audacity, Reborn 1.0 and many others.
Crossover makes it easy to use Quicken, IE, Office, and many others apps under linux. Word2000 opens faster than it does in windows.
Crossover also makes it easy to play quicktime and other non native linux codecs in your browser.
Xine and Mplayer are both working on Sorenson v1 (SVQ1)and SVQ3 support so we wont even need crossover. and Xine already has xine plugins for mozilla and konq. Xine and Mplayer also make very good dvd players.
ever want to back up your dvd to divx? now you can dvdrip is your new best friend, its a front end to transcode and will encode your dvds into near perfect divx quality. I have all my favorite movies backed up to 3 cds.
Anything else I could have missed? I dount it.. Linux has taken the world by storm and will continue to grow and evolove on the desktop.
And for those people that say the linux kernel sucks and that freebsd is so much better, just wait for 2.6...;-)
I was reading a article on newsforge on how sun is currently using redhat for their "Sun Distro" they just rebranded it.. I wonder if Sun will be offering OpenOffice or StarOffice for their box set distro.
only time will tell
Lets just hope next time I compile openoffice 1.0.1 it wont take 5 hours and 4gb disk space.
he couldnt find a good audio mixer for linux, so he had to use windows shareware to create the audio in his games.
Hopefully reborn 1.0 and audicity 1.0 will fix his problem..
I too run gentoo and Have no problems with nvidia's binary drivers. They are wicked fast and stable.. Come on man find another thing to complain about.
Your right, I installed bash, Xdarwin, Fink, vim, and a ton of other unix apps on macosx. its great as far as command line goes. But X darwin is sooo slow. I run Window Maker and if you try to "shade" a window it struggles. This is because Xdarwin is not accelerated and doesnt detect the video card in your machine. I even compiled X my self and logged in as >Console so I could "startx" which worked but it was still slow like before and I couldnt find a/etc/X11/XF86Config file to change the driver (I have a nvidia geforce 2 so I was going to change the driver to nv)
Oh well, So I installed gentoo linux ppc, my ibook has never ran so fast. Its amazing. Soo much faster than 10.2 jaguar. And Since I use Windowmaker I dont need all the fancy gui stuff macosx has. I just need glx to work but Nvidia hasnt made a ppc nvidia driver yet. Oh well.
kde and gnome are getting pretty nice, have you seen any screenshots lately! damn! so sexy just wait for gnome 2.1 and kde 3.2. BEAUTIFUL, FAST, and FREE
Slashdot Mirror
check out linuxart.com
they have the real pic.
I was also mentioned on the front page so you can see the before and after pics! glad you liked it...
why am I a troll? I made this for the mozilla guys.. I dont understand
Thought you guys would like this:-) http://linux.darylstimm.com/mozilla1280.jpg
Ugg this makes me so mad, everytime mozilla releases a new version the dont release the src until 72 hours later, its so annoying. I use gentoo and I like to just modify the old ebuild to download the new src, but if its not avalible I cant install it!
Gezz! Come on mozilla! I dont want the binaries I want the src!
But I cant wait!
Anata no namae wa non desu ka? What is your name? watashi wa dreamcast Linux ga suki desu! I like dreamcase linux! watashi wa DC Braudband adapter ga suki desu! same as above:-)
I believe redhat should Pick a desktop that makes it easiest for new users to feel like home, of course they can use what ever windowmanager they want but they need to have a default.. Gnome 2 in Redhat limbo 3 (null) looks damn nice... But so does my kde-cvs desktop... So it doesnt matter.. I just wish they would lable Mozilla as Internet Browser, and evolution "Email" and simple easy to find names. New users have problems finding a webbrowser if its called mozilla. :-)
and if your a elite user try gentoo or debian...
I could animate some gifs that look more realistic than that movie:-) But I would add an explosion or something at the end to scare people:-) (and some space ships) Very cool though!
they do not make binary drivers for linux ppc.. Also the Mach bsd kernel is full of lantancy code. Aqua will be slower than Xwindows, its not as streamlined.
okay first off I agree and disagree. Macosx should be compaired to the fatest distro around **cough** mandrake. I have been working with a friend to install macosx on his g4 400mhz, its a very quick machine. he was running macos9.1. The reason he decided to upgrade was because we installed linux. He loved it, it ran faster than Macos9 but i couldnt get dri to work because he had a geforce 2 mx. No 3d drivers. So he loved the Linux but couldnt deal with not having any kind of 3d. So we headed to compusa. We saw 10.1 on the shelf and bought it and brought it home. (we also bought a new 40gb ide 7200 wd drive) so I helped him install it, and it looked beautiful, but the first thing we noticed was how slow it was. it was alot slower than linux and macos9. to test it we installed quake3, and did a timedemo with enable_fps on. the macosx machine was about 23% slower. So we tried to upgrade it to 10.1.4 and still had the same problem. Also there were little things that bugged me. Nothing was installed into its standard place, like apache for example, it was all over the place, and they renamed all the config files, so the only way to use apache was though the gui. (not cool) then it came to the shell the terminal.app was running, tcsh!!! I hate tcsh! I dont like bash much either but its alot better than tcsh! With tcsh you cant even mv blah /somewhere/blah because it doesnt understand what your trying to do. So I upgraded the terminal to zsh by installing fink. so once I got the terminal working correctly i ran "top" and I was amazed on how much aqua was taking up memory!! People, look at top!!! I have never seen a gui take up so much ram, and if you moved the mouse over a icon the cpu would shoot up to about 90%! So my friend and I decided to just use macos9 for the time being. and dual boot into macosx if he needed to. So I was searching online and I found a article on google about macosx 10.2 beta, so I headed to irc and downloaded the development version. and had him install it. IT is soooooo much better! things are installed in the correct places, aqua has changed from slow to quite fast. Memory is not being sucked away. And Macosx has done a u turn. Even Quake3 is almost as fast as OS9. He is a happy man.
So I would recommend upgrading to 10.2 before you go around bashing.
you only need vimtutorual and :q! and :wq and know that esc can get you into command mode and i will insert text.
simple..
gentoo has optimized so much in my system that normal binary apps like this launch faster... change your distro.
I have noticed over the past 3 years that people dont see the beauty of linux.
/usr/portage/net-im/gaim/gaim-0.59.ebuild /usr/portage/net-im/gaim/gaim-0.60.ebuild, and I then have gaim 0.60!
they know that its free and that its under a GPL licence and blah blah blah.
But they dont know how friendly linux can be.
It has everything you can think of.
It has games, the list is to long list, but thanks to transgaming.com the most popular games are working.
GTA3 and Warcraft III to name a few.
and how NWN.
Linux has amazing driver support, almost every video card I can think of is supported by xfree86.
Either with 2d support or 3d support with dri.
Nvidia makes drivers for linux that are better than the windows counterparts. Tomshardware.com has proved this in a couple of their benchmarks.
Chipsets, networkcards, soundcards, software/hardware RAID, tv-cards, EVERY THING is supported with linux
Linux also has the opensource advantage, if you dont like it, fix it.
for example, I have been using WindowMaker for years, its been great to me, but I have been noticing that kde has gotten better and better, but every time I try it I get annoyed because it didnt have a feature I wanted that Windowmaker had, I wanted to be able to shade and unshade windows by putting the mouse on the top bar and scrolling up and down. This feature was not included with kde3 so I never used it. So I was talking to some buddies of mine, and I mentioned that it sucked not having that feature, and with in 10 min, my buddy got the feature working with the latest cvs of KDE3. Here is the patch http://linux.darylstimm.com/kwin-wm.patch
Now kde 3 has everything that Windowmaker has plus tons more, and I can finally run KDE apps at the speed they were intended to be ran at. nothing worse than waiting 10 seconds for konq to load.
Kde3 and Gnome 2 are very very good for the newbie. I have my sister running kde 3 and she has no problems at all.
She loves it.
Linux also has great browsers, 3 years ago that was not the case, but currently I think they are better than IE. Mozilla and Konq look beautiful with Anti Alaised fonts, and tabbed browsing. I cant ask for anything more.
But one thing I do have to say, is that linux is only good if you have the right distro, a distro that can deliver uptodateness, stabity, ease of use and Speed. So far the only distro that I have found to do this is Gentoo Linux. Gentoo Linux is wonderful, its by far the fastest distro on the block, it compiles everything from source and downloads dependencies for you so you will never see dependency hell. It has very uptodate packages, if a program is released it normally takes gentoo 5 hours before its in gentoo due to the amount of users that gentoo has. And if for some reason its not in portage you can simply make your own ebuild (a ebuild is a bash script that tells portage how to compile the program and what dependencies it has).
So if Gaim 0.60 came out I could just cp
Just that easy!
No more waiting for redhat or debian to update and make packages.
Say you dont want to wait all day for gentoo linux to be installed, you can use their stage 3 packages, which is binary based and you can get everything installed very fast and easily.
there is nothing easier than emerge package to install a package.
Also Gentoo has grown so much its currently the biggest channel on irc.openprojects.net, even bigger than debian.
I dont recommend gentoo to people that dont have a p3 or higher and I dont recommend gentoo to newbies. But if I had to recommend a distro I would say Redhat Limbo 2 or Mandrake 9 beta 3, to the newbie and slackware to the person that has a slower system.
Linux also has openoffice, koffice, abiword, gnumeric, and tons of other Office type programs that can read and modify Microsoft doc files. and they are getting better and better.
With Winex and Wine we can finally start showing windows people the benifits of Linux, if the are suck using windows because one of their favorite apps doesnt work in linux, they can try wine or winex. most of the time you can get the program to run at native speeds, but I still recommend for users to try searching freshmeat.net for replacements of their favorite apps. because 9 times out of 10 linux already has something that will replace that windows app.
Linux has finally gotten some pretty good video and sound editing software, Cinelerra 1.0, audacity, Reborn 1.0 and many others.
Crossover makes it easy to use Quicken, IE, Office, and many others apps under linux. Word2000 opens faster than it does in windows.
Crossover also makes it easy to play quicktime and other non native linux codecs in your browser.
Xine and Mplayer are both working on Sorenson v1 (SVQ1)and SVQ3 support so we wont even need crossover. and Xine already has xine plugins for mozilla and konq. Xine and Mplayer also make very good dvd players.
ever want to back up your dvd to divx? now you can dvdrip is your new best friend, its a front end to transcode and will encode your dvds into near perfect divx quality. I have all my favorite movies backed up to 3 cds.
Anything else I could have missed? I dount it.. Linux has taken the world by storm and will continue to grow and evolove on the desktop.
And for those people that say the linux kernel sucks and that freebsd is so much better, just wait for 2.6...;-)
xbox-linux.sf.net
h p
here is a screenshot
http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/screenshots.p
Finally!
now where can i buy a mod chip..
well Sun isnt make a Sun distro for sparcs. they are making it for x86 intel boxes.
I was reading a article on newsforge on how sun is currently using redhat for their "Sun Distro" they just rebranded it.. I wonder if Sun will be offering OpenOffice or StarOffice for their box set distro. only time will tell Lets just hope next time I compile openoffice 1.0.1 it wont take 5 hours and 4gb disk space.
I dont know if you got the pun when you were writing this, but isnt "Beowulf" also the one of the first books ever found?
I noticed this along time ago in the Netscape 7 rc1....
they can only copyright godzira because japanese cant pronounce Ls
its version 0.7.7 I am using gentoo linux and It built it for me.
I use the Wintv GO Hauppuage card and I can record tv shows with mplayer, xawtv, and vcr,
/dev/video0 -c 'divx ;-) low-motion' -v -p 38 -F 30 -q 100 -m mono -b 64 -t 32m tv-show.avi
/dev/video0)
;-) low-motion' is the video setting
I like vcr the best because it has timed recording.
Here is a example:
vcr -g
-g is to set the device (my wintv card is
-c 'divx
-v is for verbose
-p 38 is the channel to record
-F 30 is the frame rate
-q 100 is quality and its set to 100 which is best
-m is to set mono or stereo
-b 64 is the bitrate for the mp3 audio (64 is perfect for mono audio and 128 and higher is good for stereo)
-t 32 is the timmer, I have it set for 32min
and last is the file I am saving it to, which is tv-show.avi
Hope this shows you how easy it is.
Plus you can stick vcr in your cron tab to record tv while you are away.
vcr comes with most distros.
awesome, I cant wait to try it, I am compiling it now..
I spelt it wrong
Audacity not Audicity..
oppps!
he couldnt find a good audio mixer for linux, so he had to use windows shareware to create the audio in his games. Hopefully reborn 1.0 and audicity 1.0 will fix his problem..
I too run gentoo and Have no problems with nvidia's binary drivers. They are wicked fast and stable.. Come on man find another thing to complain about.
Your right, I installed bash, Xdarwin, Fink, vim, and a ton of other unix apps on macosx. its great as far as command line goes. But X darwin is sooo slow. I run Window Maker and if you try to "shade" a window it struggles. This is because Xdarwin is not accelerated and doesnt detect the video card in your machine. I even compiled X my self and logged in as >Console so I could "startx" which worked but it was still slow like before and I couldnt find a /etc/X11/XF86Config file to change the driver (I have a nvidia geforce 2 so I was going to change the driver to nv)
Oh well, So I installed gentoo linux ppc, my ibook has never ran so fast. Its amazing. Soo much faster than 10.2 jaguar. And Since I use Windowmaker I dont need all the fancy gui stuff macosx has. I just need glx to work but Nvidia hasnt made a ppc nvidia driver yet. Oh well.
kde and gnome are getting pretty nice, have you seen any screenshots lately! damn! so sexy just wait for gnome 2.1 and kde 3.2. BEAUTIFUL, FAST, and FREE