Re:UT2k3 - linux impressions
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well yeah if that guys knew what he was doing and had his hardware running correctly, ut2003 would have played perfectly, just like how your games are running perfectly.
hdparm is not new, and its not scary.
Im sure before you installed harry potter and nhl hockey 2002, you installed you video card drivers, made sure your sound card drivers were working, you grabbed the lastest directX version. You enabled dma on your harddrive (in case it wasnt automaticly set). Im sure you also made sure things like agp 4x was enabled in your bios.
How is this different than running hdparm and checking your nvidia drivers?
Most distros will automaticly turn on dma by default, but if he is using a older kernel or distro it might not have happened.
9/10 you should be able to install a game into linux harddrive and be running with no problems. but thats only if you have your system set up correctly.
Re:UT2k3 - linux impressions
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so yours runs better on redhat? You should try Mandrake or another distro that doesnt use i386 packages, that would probably give you another speed boost.
Re:UT2k3 - linux impressions
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well thats the problem with newbies trying linux, they think it will be fast right out of the box. You need to tweek things. Its not my fault he didnt know how to tweak things.
Most people that have weird slowness in linux go and research their problems! This guy gave up and went back to windows.
In the README.linux it says you cant compair ut2003 for linux to ut2003 for windows. its like compairing apples to oranges.
Also we all know the Nvidia Linux drivers are faster than the windows counterparts. Just go to tomshardware.com and search for the benchmarks they did. (they tested quake3)
In Windows you have to do alot of stuff to get a game to work but you dont think of it as hard because it doesnt have a "command line"
setting hdparm at boot is as hard as downloading a driver in windows for your IDE controller.
I currently run dual p3s, and a geforce 2 mx, and I get anywhere from 40-50 FPS in UT2003. with a res of 1024x768.
If you are going to compair something do it right or dont do it at all.
the reason they pulled it is because of gentoo ppc. Very unstable on ppc.
Re:UT2k3 - linux impressions
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You might have forgot to disable arts or esd sound servers, you might have forgotten to disable AGPGART and enable NVGART, you might have forgotten to run hdparm to tweak your harddrives. Maybe your kernel is not set up correctly. Maybe your using a slow distro. Maybe you dont know anything about Linux. Maybe your SDL is not configured correctly. Maybe your using a old kernel? Maybe you forgot to enable your nvidia drivers. Maybe you have alot of stuff running in the background. try ps aux. Maybe the harddrive your using for linux is slower than the windows harddrive.
Im sure your doing something wrong.
try these commands
hdparm -t/dev/hdx (to bench mark) hdparm -d1 -c1 -X69/dev/hdx (I use this to turn on dma, 32bit IO, and udma5. do cat/proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
make sure AGPGART is disabled and its running NVIDIA for the driver.
try enabling SBA and FW, the drivers disable them by default.
Can your board suppport AGP 4x? try turning that on in the drivers also.
You are probably doing something seriously wrong. Linux is faster than windows, and you should get better FPS in linux.
good luck and Next time dont post something like that with out trying everything.
Re:Lock up the machines physically
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its called a kernel. take a look at the cd you will be amazed.
maximize a window in metacity then shade it by double clicking on the top bar, then try moving the shaded window around. you cant, this is very annoying. I dont use the minimize bar on the gnome panel so this feature is very important to me. I also run dual monitors and if a window opens on the wrong monitor I have to drag to to the main monitor, and if it launched maximized I have to unmaximize and then move it. Really annoying.
Debian modified the way WindowMaker looks, they gave it a debian background and the menus are changed.
I hate how debian does this. I wish they would have never modified it. And they developers over at Windowmaker got mad just like KDE got mad that Redhat changed the look of KDE.
I think there should be a theme option in redhat that will allow Users to go back to the orginal KDE look and feel.
Since Gnome2 is the default desktop on redhat, things should look like it. Sorry KDE, but gtk2 is so nice.
Redhat uses anaconda (gtk2 based installer), mozilla gtk2, gaim gtk2, gimp gtk2, xchat gtk2, and many others. So it would make sense for them to use gnome2 as the default.
Also qt apps run slower if they are not running within KDE, kdeinit and dcop daemons need to be running for apps to launch quickly.
but i like how they made kde look.
kwin in my opinion works so much better than metacity.
In metacity(gnome2 default wm) you cant move or resize an app if its maximized. It gets really annoying if you "shade" an app and you cant move the shaded window around. REALLY annoying. (this isnt a bug its a feature)
but as long as the themes at kde-look.org work with kde in redhat, people shouldnt care if redhat modifies the look.
tgz packages are hard to find, but of course they are basicly a tar ball that you unpack in/
so to make a package you can use Checkinstall or you can make your own by doing tar -cvvf program.tar/usr/path/to/files/ then gzip program.tar and rename it to tgz. easy and simple. But isnt that the same as a rpm?
I am running dual p3s 850mhz, 512mb ram, and a geforce 2 mx 32mb ram. And it plays quite nicely. Maybe you need to upgrade your nvidia drivers to the new version they released two days ago.
well for one its nothing like vmware, you tell MOL where your 10.2 partition is and it boots it into a window. No hardware emululation, NOTHING, its running completely off your hardware.
In vmware it emulates hardware, making it very slow.
Since MOL doesnt need to emulate anything its fast! Super fast. Its like running Macos with linux running in the background.
I have been waiting for this for a long long time.
hey bud I have been looking at your posting history, and you are one of the biggest idiots I have ever seen! do you think typing in "elitespeak" is cool? Are you like 35 years old with no life or something? or a 14 year old? What ever you are its annoying and you need to staple your hands to your ass so you cant type any more. Please shut up, I really really mean it, you need to shut up, your a huge loser, I have never seen a loser like you before. I know you are looking for people to flame you but really this needs to be said. Why do you talk in elitespeach? its soooo old and gay. It said that you took the time to learn it! Why did you even register with slashdot and post your lame comments?
I bet you dont even know what bsd or linux is. I bet you sit at home all day and play games on your windows xp system. And your little friends come over and play grand theft auto 3. please please dont ever post something in "elite speach" again. its so lame. or "L4m3r" as you put it... ugg
Please go into your kitchen and pick up a knife and take your worthless life. because thats how worthless you are. I wonder what made you so lame? Maybe it was your mom not breast-feeding you or something. Or your mom had bad milk... Who knows!
so if I cat/dev/null >/dev/dsp and listen to it while sleeping will it make me smarter or dumber?
This is kinda cool....
"For the placebo group, the improvement was only about 15 percent as compared to 75 to 85 percent for the experimental group. So it's a highly significant statistical difference," Kayumov says. It also shows that brain music is highly individualistic.
It worked, he adds, because the sleep music was lower in frequency than other brain waves and induced kind of a relaxed, meditative condition. In other words, each subject's brain recognized its own lullaby and reacted accordingly.
I compile it because it works better. Why use the i386 binaires when I can have it compiled for my specific hardware? Also all my TrueType fonts work and the mozilla ebuild enables gtk2. I have my reasons.
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well yeah if that guys knew what he was doing and had his hardware running correctly, ut2003 would have played perfectly, just like how your games are running perfectly.
hdparm is not new, and its not scary.
Im sure before you installed harry potter and nhl hockey 2002, you installed you video card drivers, made sure your sound card drivers were working, you grabbed the lastest directX version. You enabled dma on your harddrive (in case it wasnt automaticly set). Im sure you also made sure things like agp 4x was enabled in your bios.
How is this different than running hdparm and checking your nvidia drivers?
Most distros will automaticly turn on dma by default, but if he is using a older kernel or distro it might not have happened.
9/10 you should be able to install a game into linux harddrive and be running with no problems. but thats only if you have your system set up correctly.
so yours runs better on redhat? You should try Mandrake or another distro that doesnt use i386 packages, that would probably give you another speed boost.
well thats the problem with newbies trying linux, they think it will be fast right out of the box. You need to tweek things. Its not my fault he didnt know how to tweak things.
Most people that have weird slowness in linux go and research their problems! This guy gave up and went back to windows.
In the README.linux it says you cant compair ut2003 for linux to ut2003 for windows. its like compairing apples to oranges.
Also we all know the Nvidia Linux drivers are faster than the windows counterparts. Just go to tomshardware.com and search for the benchmarks they did. (they tested quake3)
In Windows you have to do alot of stuff to get a game to work but you dont think of it as hard because it doesnt have a "command line"
setting hdparm at boot is as hard as downloading a driver in windows for your IDE controller.
I currently run dual p3s, and a geforce 2 mx, and I get anywhere from 40-50 FPS in UT2003. with a res of 1024x768.
If you are going to compair something do it right or dont do it at all.
that was the guide that made me realize how smart drobbins is. And after reading most of his stuff I switched my distro to gentoo.
the reason they pulled it is because of gentoo ppc. Very unstable on ppc.
You might have forgot to disable arts or esd sound servers, you might have forgotten to disable AGPGART and enable NVGART, you might have forgotten to run hdparm to tweak your harddrives. Maybe your kernel is not set up correctly. Maybe your using a slow distro. Maybe you dont know anything about Linux. Maybe your SDL is not configured correctly. Maybe your using a old kernel? Maybe you forgot to enable your nvidia drivers. Maybe you have alot of stuff running in the background. try ps aux. Maybe the harddrive your using for linux is slower than the windows harddrive.
/dev/hdx (to bench mark) /dev/hdx (I use this to turn on dma, 32bit IO, and udma5. /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Im sure your doing something wrong.
try these commands
hdparm -t
hdparm -d1 -c1 -X69
do cat
make sure AGPGART is disabled and its running NVIDIA for the driver.
try enabling SBA and FW, the drivers disable them by default.
Can your board suppport AGP 4x? try turning that on in the drivers also.
You are probably doing something seriously wrong. Linux is faster than windows, and you should get better FPS in linux.
good luck and Next time dont post something like that with out trying everything.
its called a kernel. take a look at the cd you will be amazed.
Doesnt UT2003 have a nvidia logo in the beginning? and says "the way the game was meant to be played"?
maximize a window in metacity then shade it by double clicking on the top bar, then try moving the shaded window around. you cant, this is very annoying. I dont use the minimize bar on the gnome panel so this feature is very important to me. I also run dual monitors and if a window opens on the wrong monitor I have to drag to to the main monitor, and if it launched maximized I have to unmaximize and then move it. Really annoying.
Debian modified the way WindowMaker looks, they gave it a debian background and the menus are changed.
I hate how debian does this. I wish they would have never modified it. And they developers over at Windowmaker got mad just like KDE got mad that Redhat changed the look of KDE.
I think there should be a theme option in redhat that will allow Users to go back to the orginal KDE look and feel.
Since Gnome2 is the default desktop on redhat, things should look like it. Sorry KDE, but gtk2 is so nice.
Redhat uses anaconda (gtk2 based installer), mozilla gtk2, gaim gtk2, gimp gtk2, xchat gtk2, and many others. So it would make sense for them to use gnome2 as the default.
Also qt apps run slower if they are not running within KDE, kdeinit and dcop daemons need to be running for apps to launch quickly.
but i like how they made kde look.
kwin in my opinion works so much better than metacity.
In metacity(gnome2 default wm) you cant move or resize an app if its maximized. It gets really annoying if you "shade" an app and you cant move the shaded window around. REALLY annoying. (this isnt a bug its a feature)
but as long as the themes at kde-look.org work with kde in redhat, people shouldnt care if redhat modifies the look.
tgz packages are hard to find, but of course they are basicly a tar ball that you unpack in /
/usr/path/to/files/ then gzip program.tar and rename it to tgz. easy and simple. But isnt that the same as a rpm?
so to make a package you can use Checkinstall or you can make your own by doing tar -cvvf program.tar
I am running dual p3s 850mhz, 512mb ram, and a geforce 2 mx 32mb ram. And it plays quite nicely. Maybe you need to upgrade your nvidia drivers to the new version they released two days ago.
I run xinerama and I have the exact same problem. ctrl + G doesnt work... So i dont have any mouse:-(
WRONG!
MOL uses your hardware no hardware emulation.
well for one its nothing like vmware, you tell MOL where your 10.2 partition is and it boots it into a window. No hardware emululation, NOTHING, its running completely off your hardware.
In vmware it emulates hardware, making it very slow.
Since MOL doesnt need to emulate anything its fast! Super fast. Its like running Macos with linux running in the background.
I have been waiting for this for a long long time.
2 years younger than my dad.
Yeah the telescopes are not strong enough to see the planets, so they look at the star, if the star wobbles, they believe it has planets orbiting it.
Would make sence if some didnt have planets....
where can I get those neat tetris keychains? A geek cant live with out one! but it has to keep score!
I checked thinkgeek.com and googled for it, even checked ebay.com any ideas?
hey bud I have been looking at your posting history, and you are one of the biggest idiots I have ever seen! do you think typing in "elitespeak" is cool? Are you like 35 years old with no life or something? or a 14 year old? What ever you are its annoying and you need to staple your hands to your ass so you cant type any more. Please shut up, I really really mean it, you need to shut up, your a huge loser, I have never seen a loser like you before. I know you are looking for people to flame you but really this needs to be said. Why do you talk in elitespeach? its soooo old and gay. It said that you took the time to learn it! Why did you even register with slashdot and post your lame comments?
I bet you dont even know what bsd or linux is. I bet you sit at home all day and play games on your windows xp system. And your little friends come over and play grand theft auto 3. please please dont ever post something in "elite speach" again. its so lame. or "L4m3r" as you put it... ugg
Please go into your kitchen and pick up a knife and take your worthless life. because thats how worthless you are. I wonder what made you so lame? Maybe it was your mom not breast-feeding you or something. Or your mom had bad milk... Who knows!
You really really need a life.
Have a good day loser.
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so if I cat /dev/null > /dev/dsp and listen to it while sleeping will it make me smarter or dumber?
This is kinda cool....
"For the placebo group, the improvement was only about 15 percent as compared to 75 to 85 percent for the experimental group. So it's a highly significant statistical difference," Kayumov says. It also shows that brain music is highly individualistic.
It worked, he adds, because the sleep music was lower in frequency than other brain waves and induced kind of a relaxed, meditative condition. In other words, each subject's brain recognized its own lullaby and reacted accordingly.
if it starts 2 seconds faster Im happy and it was worth the time to compile. Nintendo power glove? That would be sweet!
I compile it because it works better. Why use the i386 binaires when I can have it compiled for my specific hardware? Also all my TrueType fonts work and the mozilla ebuild enables gtk2. I have my reasons.
its a Anole, its part of the Iguana family. They call them the american chameleon because they can change colors and their eyes move like a chameleon.
But it has sticky feet so it can climb glass like a gecko, and are normally sold as pets in the pet store and labled as a house gecko.
Biggest difference between a anole and a gecko is that a gecko has fixed eye lids like a snake. (cant blink).
I hope you liked my lizard class...
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