Religious extremism come in many flavors folks, and if we are not careful, we are going to lose our edge. Remember, this country is only a couple hundred years old. Those societies that have embraced education and science historically are those societies that survive.
Just because someone expresses a religious belief that does not match your own does not mean they are an extremist. The conservatives don't call people like you extreme atheists or extreme liberals but people like you sure don't have a problem calling anyone with a hint of religion an extremist no matter how extreme the other party is. Isn't *that* being a bit extreme?
Also, this country is only a couple hundred years old and already we've forgotten that this country was founded with freedom of religion in mind and with religion in the back of the settlers' minds and people like you want to either forget or ignore (or whatever you want to call it) that fact like religion never existed in this country. 85% of the American population is of the Christian faith so I guess that not only is 85% of the population extremist in your eyes but you must actually think that their faith doesn't matter to them and that they must share your view because otherwise they would crazy. How can 85% of the population be wrong (and don't try weak attempts at answering by talking abou the Presidency or anything like that) about how they want to live their lives with respect to religion? And finally, it is about time that (whether anyone realizes it or not) major companies are siding on the majority's side in an argument instead of on the very small minority, as has been done in the past regarding the "under God" clause in the Pledge and in issues dealing with homosexuality. They are finally being smart and realize the majority count more than the minority.
To finish up I'll go back to something in the beginning of your post and say that I am much more willing to give my business to those companies that can take a stand just like the ones in this very situation because they are taking a stand against people like you and the rest of the minority who think that religion has no place in this world. The majority of the people in the U.S. still have a religious faith that they consider important and any company who respects that (and there seems to be fewer of those around) *IS* in fact taking a stand against the general trend to gradually remove religion from the public eye.
Now I just have to wonder which "Holidays" they are talking about considering there are probably 300 in a year (across the major countries) and at least 30 of those are American holidays with approximately 10 of those being federally observed.
I wish I could remember where I heard this line (tv or movie) but when the guy made a comment about looking at the girl when she dressed skimpily the girl replied that she wants guys to look at her, just not him. If I remember I'll reply again. This is going to bug me now until I die.
How about all students who have laptops get seated at the back of the class so 2 things happen as a result. One is that no one who doesn't have a laptop can't be distracted as easily since the laptops are behind everyone and those who would gather around the laptops and make noise are the other people with laptops and they are all in the back of the classroom, hopefully with a reasonable amount of space between themselves and the rest of the class.
Actually more like the 1700s in the early American colonies where a state sponsored religion was not in place and the settlers wanted to have any religion they wanted and did not have to worry about being persecuted for their beliefs (by others or by the gov't). They also were actually allowed to have religion in schools and universities without others saying they were violating church and state laws but they weren't forcing it on anyone anyway; it's just what was taught, just like history or math.
You can bet that mom and pop have prayed the gospel right into Junior Sixpack from birth through puberty. He doesn't stand a chance at independent thought so he will never question it; and anyone who does question it is a heathen commie democrat -- quick, pray for their souls.
Exactly how is shoving evolution down Junior from birth giving him the ability of independent thought? Just because students are taught something that you don't agree with doesn't all of a sudden make them a heap of jello and not capable of thinking. Teaching them any subject will not cause them to stop thinking for themselves unless you specifically teach them that very act. Don't forget that when people from various countries were immmigrating over here they wanted freedom from the state church and that didn't mean they didn't want any religion, they just wanted to practice whatever their religion was w/o the gov't saying they couldn't and that is where the first amendment came from. Those settlers went so far in their strive for having religion a part of their lives that they founded colleges for teaching religion and yet somehow some of us think that church and state were supposed to be totally separated instead of merely the state not being able to enforce a national religion. And you call *this* a disgusting act. Open your eyes why don't you. We *started* out with religion in schools and it worked because it was not being forced on to people but openly taught. You wouldn't be hanged or arrested for having the wrong religion because there was no wrong religion specifically because the state didn't enforce one as opposed to England. We've grossly exaggerated what the 1st amendment stated concerning that Congress shall *make* no law respecting the establishment of religion. Congress has never tried to establish a religion and state/local gov'ts try to allow the free exercise of all religions except that some people think that means no religions.
And those in the Kansas government should know that this issue is making Kansas a laughing stock world wide?
Why? You may not know this or care to admit it but a long time ago in this same country prayer was actually allowed in the schools and many universities were founded on the basis of teaching religion.
We need students and employees who are well prepared in the sciences and are capable of thinking independently, and if the school board succeeds in misleading their students, they are of no use to us.
They are still being "well-prepared" because they are still being taught evolutionary theory. Nothing is being subtracted from the curriculum but something is being added instead. Also, why do you feel that just because they are being taught ID that they can't think for themselves? Students are taught many many other subjects than that and yet I don't see you accusing them of not being able to think for themselves because of those other subjects so why pick on ID and act like the students will be dumber because they learn about it? I'm taking a history class in college right now even though my major is CS and I'm taking it to meet all the college's requirements. Does that mean I am not capable of thinking for myself? No, and learning about ID is no different. Only people like you believe they are being mislead and that the ID camp is completely biased. I don't see you provide any proof other than your opinion which isn't any proof at all.
It should be considered human at the point when there is a beating heart sustaining life. At the same time it would also be considered murder if that beating heart were to stop at the hands of another human being. All it takes is a little black and white to make things clear. Don't add in gray areas when there aren't any to begin with.
I know, I know, Java's got that stuff, too. I like 'em both. A guy can swing both way, right?
You can swing however you like as long as you don't parade around San Francisco celebrating the fact you use Java and C# and don't expect special attention for it and for everyone to bend to your every whim. People who use assembler don't expect you to accept what they use so don't expect them to accept what you use.
The actors make millions in a movie because the movie makes millions as a result.
They make millions because the viewers are gouged in order to see the movie which then is passed down to the actors. If you minimize their paycheck you can lower ticket prices and concession prices. The same could be said for sports players and game ticket prices.
One more thing... if a company already has a patches section with the words "Coming Soon" before the game is released, is that suggesting something about the quality of the product?
No it doesn't say anything about the product; it actually says something about the company. They are being realistic and honest because they realize that no software is perfect because imperfect beings created it. Have YOU ever written perfect code (assuming you write code to begin with)? I didn't think so. Now have you ever written it on the scale of a 100MB game(or however big it is)? Didn't think so. Again, at least they are being honest and that will be even more evident when they start posting patches when they are needed unlike some other companies who will remain nameless who try to ignore the fact that bugs exist in their products to keep up their good PR rating.
Or you could open up your specifications to the world and let everyone ELSE do the work for you and you....do nothing and STILL make money on that extra 2%. If you are all about business decisions then you would be craving for every last 2% that you can get especially if it costs you nothing in added work.
I can't wait for that[irc] to catch on. Then we can setup a website to bash people about the stupid comments they make. We could call it http://www.bash.org/
A JVM runs much heavier on the system, and when I run Netbeans, it is continuously on the verge of eating my 1.2 GB powerbook alive, in fact I have to frequently restart Netbeans to get memory back.
Then don't use Netbeans. I use Eclipse and don't have the problems you describe. I've had Eclipse running for about 3 weeks straight now, along with having gaim, netscape, opera, and 2 VMWare VMs running with 1152MB of RAM. Things do swap but I haven't had to ever restart Eclipse. I *am* using java 1.5. Also, I work on small apps of no more than 10 classes so maybe that is the difference.
I can't help but feel that if it had been Hawaii and US citizens killed rather than Bali and Indonesian/Australian citizens killed this link would have been made.
Most likely you are right, for the simple fact that there would have been a greater chance the poster would have heard about the recent bombings. That isn't necessarily the poster's fault. It is the media's fault for not reporting everything; just like the way they only report on the U.S. soldiers who die instead of reporting on the terrorists/guerillas who are dying. Makes for a very one-sided media/war.
The local bar has a nude video game that I saw get rebooted one night and I recognized, I mean, my friend recognized that the bootup sequence was a Linux boot screen. Enterprise? hell yeah.
It should only affect the portions that should be affected (i.e. the new files to be written/updated). Destroying the entire 200gb of data on the disk is just pathetic.
This evolved in to the right to an abortion in Roe v Wade.
What about the baby's right to life? Who is standing up for those who can't stand up for themselves? If the person we want to kill doesn't retaliate then it must be okay to murder them. That is what abortion basically comes down to.
With the Enterprise edition of many apps it is possible to add zeros without adding any other functionality simply by the company charging more because you happen to have 4 CPUs in your server instead of 1 and if you have dual cores in each then watch out. No bonuses this year. Veritas does this with their NetBackup Datacenter product and I'm sure they make a killing on it.
So someone sitting outside in their car on your street and looking at your house and able to see you walk back and forth between rooms, without binoculars, is violating your privacy? Shut your curtains if you are paranoid or have something to hide. Nothing is private about your fingerprints. You leave them everywhere and do you bother to wipe them off of everything you touch? What prevents the waiter at your local restaurant from taking your prints and giving them to his friend to put them into the "system"? You may draw a line between public and private but some of the things you consider private are still public whether you like it or not and it is only after you work at preventing that from happening that they really are private (wiping your prints off of everything you touch, picking up all your hairs you lose all day, closing your curtains). At a certain point that can turn into paranoia as well.
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Religious extremism come in many flavors folks, and if we are not careful, we are going to lose our edge. Remember, this country is only a couple hundred years old. Those societies that have embraced education and science historically are those societies that survive.
Just because someone expresses a religious belief that does not match your own does not mean they are an extremist. The conservatives don't call people like you extreme atheists or extreme liberals but people like you sure don't have a problem calling anyone with a hint of religion an extremist no matter how extreme the other party is. Isn't *that* being a bit extreme?
Also, this country is only a couple hundred years old and already we've forgotten that this country was founded with freedom of religion in mind and with religion in the back of the settlers' minds and people like you want to either forget or ignore (or whatever you want to call it) that fact like religion never existed in this country. 85% of the American population is of the Christian faith so I guess that not only is 85% of the population extremist in your eyes but you must actually think that their faith doesn't matter to them and that they must share your view because otherwise they would crazy. How can 85% of the population be wrong (and don't try weak attempts at answering by talking abou the Presidency or anything like that) about how they want to live their lives with respect to religion? And finally, it is about time that (whether anyone realizes it or not) major companies are siding on the majority's side in an argument instead of on the very small minority, as has been done in the past regarding the "under God" clause in the Pledge and in issues dealing with homosexuality. They are finally being smart and realize the majority count more than the minority.
To finish up I'll go back to something in the beginning of your post and say that I am much more willing to give my business to those companies that can take a stand just like the ones in this very situation because they are taking a stand against people like you and the rest of the minority who think that religion has no place in this world. The majority of the people in the U.S. still have a religious faith that they consider important and any company who respects that (and there seems to be fewer of those around) *IS* in fact taking a stand against the general trend to gradually remove religion from the public eye.
Now I just have to wonder which "Holidays" they are talking about considering there are probably 300 in a year (across the major countries) and at least 30 of those are American holidays with approximately 10 of those being federally observed.
I wish I could remember where I heard this line (tv or movie) but when the guy made a comment about looking at the girl when she dressed skimpily the girl replied that she wants guys to look at her, just not him. If I remember I'll reply again. This is going to bug me now until I die.
How about all students who have laptops get seated at the back of the class so 2 things happen as a result. One is that no one who doesn't have a laptop can't be distracted as easily since the laptops are behind everyone and those who would gather around the laptops and make noise are the other people with laptops and they are all in the back of the classroom, hopefully with a reasonable amount of space between themselves and the rest of the class.
I've got a bridge in New York to sell you.
I've been shopping around for one. Ebay didn't have what I want. How much is yours?
Actually more like the 1700s in the early American colonies where a state sponsored religion was not in place and the settlers wanted to have any religion they wanted and did not have to worry about being persecuted for their beliefs (by others or by the gov't). They also were actually allowed to have religion in schools and universities without others saying they were violating church and state laws but they weren't forcing it on anyone anyway; it's just what was taught, just like history or math.
You can bet that mom and pop have prayed the gospel right into Junior Sixpack from birth through puberty. He doesn't stand a chance at independent thought so he will never question it; and anyone who does question it is a heathen commie democrat -- quick, pray for their souls.
Exactly how is shoving evolution down Junior from birth giving him the ability of independent thought? Just because students are taught something that you don't agree with doesn't all of a sudden make them a heap of jello and not capable of thinking. Teaching them any subject will not cause them to stop thinking for themselves unless you specifically teach them that very act. Don't forget that when people from various countries were immmigrating over here they wanted freedom from the state church and that didn't mean they didn't want any religion, they just wanted to practice whatever their religion was w/o the gov't saying they couldn't and that is where the first amendment came from. Those settlers went so far in their strive for having religion a part of their lives that they founded colleges for teaching religion and yet somehow some of us think that church and state were supposed to be totally separated instead of merely the state not being able to enforce a national religion. And you call *this* a disgusting act. Open your eyes why don't you. We *started* out with religion in schools and it worked because it was not being forced on to people but openly taught. You wouldn't be hanged or arrested for having the wrong religion because there was no wrong religion specifically because the state didn't enforce one as opposed to England. We've grossly exaggerated what the 1st amendment stated concerning that Congress shall *make* no law respecting the establishment of religion. Congress has never tried to establish a religion and state/local gov'ts try to allow the free exercise of all religions except that some people think that means no religions.
And those in the Kansas government should know that this issue is making Kansas a laughing stock world wide?
Why? You may not know this or care to admit it but a long time ago in this same country prayer was actually allowed in the schools and many universities were founded on the basis of teaching religion.
We need students and employees who are well prepared in the sciences and are capable of thinking independently, and if the school board succeeds in misleading their students, they are of no use to us.
They are still being "well-prepared" because they are still being taught evolutionary theory. Nothing is being subtracted from the curriculum but something is being added instead. Also, why do you feel that just because they are being taught ID that they can't think for themselves? Students are taught many many other subjects than that and yet I don't see you accusing them of not being able to think for themselves because of those other subjects so why pick on ID and act like the students will be dumber because they learn about it? I'm taking a history class in college right now even though my major is CS and I'm taking it to meet all the college's requirements. Does that mean I am not capable of thinking for myself? No, and learning about ID is no different. Only people like you believe they are being mislead and that the ID camp is completely biased. I don't see you provide any proof other than your opinion which isn't any proof at all.
It should be considered human at the point when there is a beating heart sustaining life. At the same time it would also be considered murder if that beating heart were to stop at the hands of another human being. All it takes is a little black and white to make things clear. Don't add in gray areas when there aren't any to begin with.
I know, I know, Java's got that stuff, too. I like 'em both. A guy can swing both way, right?
You can swing however you like as long as you don't parade around San Francisco celebrating the fact you use Java and C# and don't expect special attention for it and for everyone to bend to your every whim. People who use assembler don't expect you to accept what they use so don't expect them to accept what you use.
The actors make millions in a movie because the movie makes millions as a result.
They make millions because the viewers are gouged in order to see the movie which then is passed down to the actors. If you minimize their paycheck you can lower ticket prices and concession prices. The same could be said for sports players and game ticket prices.
One more thing... if a company already has a patches section with the words "Coming Soon" before the game is released, is that suggesting something about the quality of the product?
No it doesn't say anything about the product; it actually says something about the company. They are being realistic and honest because they realize that no software is perfect because imperfect beings created it. Have YOU ever written perfect code (assuming you write code to begin with)? I didn't think so. Now have you ever written it on the scale of a 100MB game(or however big it is)? Didn't think so. Again, at least they are being honest and that will be even more evident when they start posting patches when they are needed unlike some other companies who will remain nameless who try to ignore the fact that bugs exist in their products to keep up their good PR rating.
Or you could open up your specifications to the world and let everyone ELSE do the work for you and you....do nothing and STILL make money on that extra 2%. If you are all about business decisions then you would be craving for every last 2% that you can get especially if it costs you nothing in added work.
I can't wait for that[irc] to catch on. Then we can setup a website to bash people about the stupid comments they make. We could call it http://www.bash.org/
The only thing that needs tested is your intelligence.
Sounds like they need promoted to management.
It just goes to show you that liberals can never be satisfied.
A JVM runs much heavier on the system, and when I run Netbeans, it is continuously on the verge of eating my 1.2 GB powerbook alive, in fact I have to frequently restart Netbeans to get memory back.
Then don't use Netbeans. I use Eclipse and don't have the problems you describe. I've had Eclipse running for about 3 weeks straight now, along with having gaim, netscape, opera, and 2 VMWare VMs running with 1152MB of RAM. Things do swap but I haven't had to ever restart Eclipse. I *am* using java 1.5. Also, I work on small apps of no more than 10 classes so maybe that is the difference.
I can't help but feel that if it had been Hawaii and US citizens killed rather than Bali and Indonesian/Australian citizens killed this link would have been made.
Most likely you are right, for the simple fact that there would have been a greater chance the poster would have heard about the recent bombings. That isn't necessarily the poster's fault. It is the media's fault for not reporting everything; just like the way they only report on the U.S. soldiers who die instead of reporting on the terrorists/guerillas who are dying. Makes for a very one-sided media/war.
The local bar has a nude video game that I saw get rebooted one night and I recognized, I mean, my friend recognized that the bootup sequence was a Linux boot screen. Enterprise? hell yeah.
Seems like this is a dupe as something like this happens about once a week.
It should only affect the portions that should be affected (i.e. the new files to be written/updated). Destroying the entire 200gb of data on the disk is just pathetic.
This evolved in to the right to an abortion in Roe v Wade.
What about the baby's right to life? Who is standing up for those who can't stand up for themselves? If the person we want to kill doesn't retaliate then it must be okay to murder them. That is what abortion basically comes down to.
With the Enterprise edition of many apps it is possible to add zeros without adding any other functionality simply by the company charging more because you happen to have 4 CPUs in your server instead of 1 and if you have dual cores in each then watch out. No bonuses this year. Veritas does this with their NetBackup Datacenter product and I'm sure they make a killing on it.
So someone sitting outside in their car on your street and looking at your house and able to see you walk back and forth between rooms, without binoculars, is violating your privacy? Shut your curtains if you are paranoid or have something to hide. Nothing is private about your fingerprints. You leave them everywhere and do you bother to wipe them off of everything you touch? What prevents the waiter at your local restaurant from taking your prints and giving them to his friend to put them into the "system"? You may draw a line between public and private but some of the things you consider private are still public whether you like it or not and it is only after you work at preventing that from happening that they really are private (wiping your prints off of everything you touch, picking up all your hairs you lose all day, closing your curtains). At a certain point that can turn into paranoia as well.