With Novells server management, NDS, etc, it finally (combined with all the other open source forces) be enough to ACTUALLY pose a threat to microsoft..
As to the Destop, Mandrake 9.2 rocks. (Even given 350M of updates)
A new NFORCE2 board is the hot setup, FIC AU13 last I remember,(I have an AU11, DDR333, chipset 1 rev previous) DDR400, dual channel ram access, great audio, and a NIC that won't work under Linux last I checked. ~$90 US.
Add a 2400+, and a good copper cooler with a 70mm fan (~$30) and a couple of sticks of DDR400 ram, looking at about $400, using your existing case, PS,drives etc.
Very fast and stable under Linux.(Or probably Win for that matter, cant say personally)
There are some cheaper VIA based boards out there, I have one that has about a week on it, a SOYO Dragon Lite, same CPU and mem as in the Nforce, but I HAD to underclock it and slow the memory to 133 to have a stable system.
Running same CPU and mem at 2168MHz, 166, 5222 mem timings, stable as a rock on the Nforce.
Looks cool, I bookmarked the RC "Jet"... You can get some great flytime out of some of the little Nimh powered planes, pucked up a little ~18" span FF powered glider at some sale, charged it up, and it seemed to go forever... over and over until it was just disappeared one day over the horizon. (OK, out of visual range, the trim got tweaked and it went straight...)
The grandkids loved it, but I wanted an RC version.
Maybe a few more, but there are major mitigating factors, like the fact that the Linux kernel and Gnuserland generally follow good security practices by design.
I know you may be trolling, but if you are really interested google will help you find a many articles covering this... "unix design security implementation" might be a good start.
Wal-Mart may be one of the "Evil Empires" but they are there because they sell what people want, at a reasonable price, and usually have what you want.
(Not a Wal-Mart employee, but a regular csutomer)
They also sell preconfigured (cheap) linux boxes, so perhaps they are just good at finding what sells, and thus a geek shop. (Not a Frys, but Frys is not everywhere)
My bloody point was that there will probably be a minimal boot loader functionality, all else will move on disc... it makes sense for hdw manufacturers, as returns for screwed BIOS are a huge loss, so moving the main code on disc is a HUGE win for (possibly) most.
Linux (for the most part) IGNORES the bios. Windows does much the same anymore.
Much of a moderm BIOS is really nice for a lot of things, but is really overkill in most apps, and much of the functionality is redundant, as it has to be (or can be) set within Win or Linux via hdparm or some control panel item.
If they want to throw hooks in for DRM-so be it.
The only way DRM from hell will not happen is if people "vote" with their wallets, preaching to the choir here will not help.
The money simply would not go to Redmond, but would be spread far and wide across the US.
As it is for the US government, offshore support would be a no no... Strictly home grown support staff would be mandatory.
If you buy the BS that "Linux costs MORE to support" from Redmond, even better to help support the economy, right?
(Everyone knows that's BS, but stay with me)
I use Linux, have used NetBSD... I could not care less what gets used, but the concept of my tax money getting pissed away on MS year after year has always burned me... Especially when there are free alternatives that would work better in most cases.(Not all.yet... Buy that would likely change quickly)
Winkids, please realise that achieving a full Linux distro install (with all the nice preconfigured apps---Not a base install) takes FAR less work vs a 2000/XP install in most cases--- And usually takes a small fraction of the time.
A Mandrake 9.1 default install takes like 20 min on a decent machine. (That has most everything one would "normally" need for a buissiness environment, or for the average home user)]
Mandrakes update/package management toos also work VERY well, and are to the point of "click and drool".
Slashdot Mirror
Knuth followed this model on TEX...
It works.
(Of course it used a great dev system that resists stupi mitakes;0(
35:50:36 and I'll be done .
Phhhht.
And the mirrors are empty, found 2, 1 iso each.
I'm not real impressed with bit torrent so far, I usually get ~70KBPs down (512k cable, good>excellent provider (cableone.net)
This discovery passes the "Duh!" test, where you say "Duh! of Course it will work, it is unlikely NOT to not work in fact, just due to X, Y, and Z"
If this is real, these guys deserve every dime they can get.
Perhaps the US Gvmnt should buy them (IF it is real) and give it to humanity, as a gesture.
Nah.
Now microsoft can be afraid, and mean it.
With Novells server management, NDS, etc, it finally (combined with all the other open source forces) be enough to ACTUALLY pose a threat to microsoft..
As to the Destop, Mandrake 9.2 rocks.
(Even given 350M of updates)
A new NFORCE2 board is the hot setup, FIC AU13 last I remember,(I have an AU11, DDR333, chipset 1 rev previous) DDR400, dual channel ram access, great audio, and a NIC that won't work under Linux last I checked. ~$90 US.
Add a 2400+, and a good copper cooler with a 70mm fan (~$30) and a couple of sticks of DDR400 ram, looking at about $400, using your existing case, PS,drives etc.
Very fast and stable under Linux.(Or probably Win for that matter, cant say personally)
There are some cheaper VIA based boards out there, I have one that has about a week on it, a SOYO Dragon Lite, same CPU and mem as in the Nforce, but I HAD to underclock it and slow the memory to 133 to have a stable system.
Running same CPU and mem at 2168MHz, 166, 5222 mem timings, stable as a rock on the Nforce.
Looks cool, I bookmarked the RC "Jet"...
You can get some great flytime out of some of the little Nimh powered planes, pucked up a little ~18" span FF powered glider at some sale, charged it up, and it seemed to go forever... over and over until it was just disappeared one day over the horizon.
(OK, out of visual range, the trim got tweaked and it went straight...)
The grandkids loved it, but I wanted an RC version.
Indestructable is good.
You beat me to it........
I can see it now...
(Visualize Bill the Gates with pinkie to corner of mouth...)
"It will only cost you 100 TRILLION dollars!!!!!"
(Vietnam)
But we donly have 500 bucks in the treasury!!!
(Bill)
Oh...
I can see it now...
"It will only cost you 100 TRILLION dollars!!!!!"
But we donly have 500 bucks in the treasury!!!
Oh...
Maybe a few more, but there are major mitigating factors, like the fact that the Linux kernel and Gnuserland generally follow good security practices by design.
I know you may be trolling, but if you are really interested google will help you find a many articles covering this... "unix design security implementation" might be a good start.
"Civil prosecution is too expensive, difficult, and slow."
Ahhhh, I see, Mr RIAA, lets make it so the taxpayer will have to pay for all this, not us poor little Monopolies...
Lets make listening to anything not on Clearchannels playlist a felony too, while we're at it.
Vote.
/. will not do it at all.
Register to vote, and DO it.
If you do not vote, they do not care.
Ask your (choose candidate for x office) about what you care about---DCMA, corporate/government buying of law, whatever.
Kick em out of office.
Things CAN change, but bitching here on
The must have lots of funny mushrooms in Utah for them to come up with this stuff.
Bah.
See subject.
Amen.
Even if it had an embedded watermark.
I know that was a joke, but....
Wal-Mart may be one of the "Evil Empires" but they are there because they sell what people want, at a reasonable price, and usually have what you want.
(Not a Wal-Mart employee, but a regular csutomer)
They also sell preconfigured (cheap) linux boxes, so perhaps they are just good at finding what sells, and thus a geek shop. (Not a Frys, but Frys is not everywhere)
My bloody point was that there will probably be a minimal boot loader functionality, all else will move on disc... it makes sense for hdw manufacturers, as returns for screwed BIOS are a huge loss, so moving the main code on disc is a HUGE win for (possibly) most.
OK kids, here's an alternative view---
Linux (for the most part) IGNORES the bios.
Windows does much the same anymore.
Much of a moderm BIOS is really nice for a lot of things, but is really overkill in most apps, and much of the functionality is redundant, as it has to be (or can be) set within Win or Linux via hdparm or some control panel item.
If they want to throw hooks in for DRM-so be it.
The only way DRM from hell will not happen is if people "vote" with their wallets, preaching to the choir here will not help.
My GOD, he's right!!!!!!!!!o ooh)
(Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Kids, RTFA, it's a PPC mini ITX board.
It will run Linux/*BSD fine.
Get a grip. Think of the possibilities for goodness sakes---
The NEW "Amiga" is an interesting beast, and shares little (save running old apps via UAE proably) with the old but the name.
IANAP, but the runtime environment supposedly runs circles around JAVA, and will work across Arches via a platorm specific runtime.
Disclaimer---I still have, and occasionally fire up, my "killer" A3000.
Save for shot kbd, it still works fine after all these years, and the interface could still teach lessons.
It will also boot to a full GUI off one 880K floppy.
UAE Rocks about 100x faster on my 2100+ tho.
Yeah, if they bought SCO, their software would suck and we would hate them...
(Waiaminite...)
The following trolls completely miss the point:
The main cost of software is SUPPORT.
Linux will require support.
The money simply would not go to Redmond, but would be spread far and wide across the US.
As it is for the US government, offshore support would be a no no... Strictly home grown support staff would be mandatory.
If you buy the BS that "Linux costs MORE to support" from Redmond, even better to help support the economy, right?
(Everyone knows that's BS, but stay with me)
I use Linux, have used NetBSD... I could not care less what gets used, but the concept of my tax money getting pissed away on MS year after year has always burned me... Especially when there are free alternatives that would work better in most cases.(Not all.yet... Buy that would likely change quickly)
Lets not get into the file format BS...
It has worked on every machine I have tried it on...
Some almost 10 years old, and the latest laptops...
It's virtually the "AOL Users" linux distro.
It's also likely the easiest way to get Debian installed. (knx-hdinstall)
Using Mandrake cooker, it IS that easy.
Winkids, please realise that achieving a full Linux distro install (with all the nice preconfigured apps---Not a base install) takes FAR less work vs a 2000/XP install in most cases---
And usually takes a small fraction of the time.
A Mandrake 9.1 default install takes like 20 min on a decent machine.
(That has most everything one would "normally" need for a buissiness environment, or for the average home user)]
Mandrakes update/package management toos also work VERY well, and are to the point of "click and drool".
It has been this way for a year or two now.
No, the only difference is that there are betting pools as to the date NK will become a smoking hole in the ground.
If they are lucky. God forbid the ROK guys get after them with our toys... A big nuke would be merciful.
They may actually have their 1 test. but IMHO it will be one of the last things they do, ever.
Sadly, SCO is in the US, although the earlier "SCO IS NK" post has some logical merit based soley on the claims/demands.