I live here in Salt Lake and were thinking of going down to Lindon with a big poster or something to
We need another picketing event. The first one had, what? 40 people? And I never even heard about it. If someone can get another big picket event organized, I'll be there.
Wow VudooCrush, this is what..already your fifth comment preaching undying support for BuyMusic.com while yelling at everyone else who doesn't like them?
They make this clear before you buy the music. If I tell you before hand not to do something, and you do it anyways, is it my fault or yours?
BuyMusic.com's fault is that they provide horrible service. So people are going to complain, ask for their money back, write nasty messages about them, boycott them, etc. They're much more misleading than most companies people deal with. They knowingly use a relatively unknown and troublesome Microsoft DRM Windows Media format, without making any *active* effort to inform people these aren't MP3's. This makes people mad.
Sure, BuyMusic.com may have their fine print in order, but how many people are going to say "Well, I guess BuyMusic.com is a great company...look at this fine print here, and that fine print there...all together, it means this broken music service is not their fault. Boy, if only I had spent a few hours researching their list of supported programs, legal claims, and tech support pages before I bought my songs."
My mistake, this bill only applies to the federal government, not for average private citizens like me.
However, because Slashdotters never like to admit total defeat, I'd like to pose the question. Do you think the the ACLU is still opposed to private citizens like me consolidating so many public government databases about individual people and properties?
Where I work, our job is to collect *public* information in government databases. We make it possible so people can research a property in just a minutes, rather than a few hours.
According to the ACLU, because I'm consolidating public information, I'm a national security threat. I should also be forced to submit to even more beaurocratic loopholes to get data that's already public, or be stopped from accessing to much public data to begin with. And I thought the ACLU was all about personal freedom and open governments
I've lived in Oak Ridge. Very nice area...very clean for Eastern Tennessee standards. Lots of trees, rivers, etc. Everything was very professional, and I never heard of any problems regarding radioactive waste. Heck, even their speed limit signs have kilometers per hour on them!
In contrast, travel 10 miles outside of Oak Ridge back in the redneck hills, and you'll see all sorts of trash. Empty motor oil bottles, dead batteries, lighter fluid containers, etc, all sitting in the middle of streams. Seeing that, the *last* thing you'll ever think is "Did Oak Ridge dump a few pounds of radioactive waste in the ground?" Worst of all, these redneck towns still keep their speed limit signs in miles per hour!!!!
By the way, Oak Ridge National Labratory did a very nice study comparing the huge amounts of radioactive emissions from coal power plants compared to nuclear powered plants. Check it out here: http://www.ornl.gov/ORNLReview/rev26-34/text/colma in.html
Re:People work harder in the U.S.?
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LOL. I love it. Sometimes, having -1 Troll moderations are wrong. This deserves a Score:5 Troll
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Actually, the OT changes will benefit most Wal-Mart employees.
Under the current rules, any employee making more than $155 a week -- about $8,000 per year -- could be excluded from overtime...The good news is that the regulations would raise that cut-off amount to $425 a week -- about $22,100 per year -- actually adding about 1.3 million lower-wage workers to the ranks of people eligible for overtime."
The changes also make it harder for executives and those who make $65,000+ a year to claim overtime. Unfortunately, the majority of OT losses will come from "learned professionals", which could easily include computer techies.
RTA. It comes with a neat picture that explains it pretty well. The credit card one on the right seems to be the most practical reason to use bending. While viewing a map, you bend it to scroll left or right, or zoom in or out. Makes sense to me.
Can any good Mormons out there explain how the belief that you will (if you pay your tithes, etc) someday become a GOD affect your world view
Heh, was that an intentional troll to try to get a Mormon to respond? =)
The best way to answer your question is to remind you that...as a group...Mormons are generally no different from anyone else. We may have different health standards, dress modestly, and have a couple more kids...but when you get down to it, we're still all human. For some reason, when people hear the word Mormon, they think of some self-righteous religious group who means well, but they're beliefs have warped their views to the point where Mormons are out of touch with reality.
If that's not annoying enough, people also scrutinize our actions to see just how moral we really are. "Look! There! A Mormon who isn't perfect! And there, 2 more!" Well duh, we're human. We mess up just as much as Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc.
As for how beliefs affect our views...I'll try to answer this as honestly as possible. The idea you mentioned of becoming a God mentioned isn't official church doctrine...I could pull out scriptues to support both sides of the arguement. But overall, your question doesn't matter anyways. The influential belief in our lives is just getting to heaven. That means we try to be our best, admit our mistakes, and try harder next time. If I'm faced with some moral decision, I think "ok, I'm accountable for what I do...I want this...but I know I should be doing that." Sen. Hatch I know to be a really decent guy, (his computer destroying comment is way off in left field, but overall, he tries to be an honest person). The SCO execs on the other hand, they sound pretty messed up. I don't know the whole story, but on the surface, it sure doesn't look right. It makes me wonder too "Many of those SCO execs are probably Mormon. What in the world are they thinking? How can you lie to the world and slander everyone by day, and pray to God at night?" I guess it just comes down to that they're human, and you can find bad apples in all religions.
Hatch has normally been on the good side of technology. A few years back, he even led a judiciary hearing on Microsoft's evil tactics.
That's why I was so surprised to read his computer-destroying comments. They are completely out of character for a normally decent guy who doesn't like government intrusion. Hmm...maybe the comments were a fluke, or maybe he is really losing it.
Having lived in Utah for several years (out now)...This group has a tendency to believe whatever the powers that be tell them....So contrary to what you might think and comment, the employees really don't have any idea how nutty the company's claims may be; they truly believe they are correct
I'm LDS (a.k.a Mormon), and I've lived in Utah most of my life. I've noticed there are those...not many...who know next to nothing about Mormons, but still delegate themselves as experts on our church simply because they'ved lived here a few years. You definitely fall into this category.
It's fine to disagree with a church. It's entirely different to spread hate-filled overgeneralizations about a group of people you obviously know little about.
I submitted this story 2 days back. 2003-06-08 15:11:43 Microsoft wooing TigerDirect with cheaper software (articles,microsoft)-(rejected)
Heh, same here...I've have 2 articles rejected. Although the editors may have reasons for rejecting articles, Slashdot really needs a better way to handle rejection. You find a great story, research it for authenticity or dupes, then find alternate links, and finally write up a paragraph with good HTML and perfect grammer. After all this, you recieve this notice:
....(articles, microsoft)-(rejected)
"..don't gripe, you'll get you modded down..."
Another example of Slashdot editor's lack of professionalism. They need to tell us why was it rejected. Not catchy enough? Someone already submitted it? Not/. worthy? It really pisses you off when you put all that work in, only to receive the harsh words "rejected" without any reason given.
Slashdot should have a section titled "rejected stories". It'd contain all the rejected stories submitted to the editors that day. I'd love to see those! Sure, some will suck and some will be dupes, but there's all those rare gems of stories we'll never get to see.
why did us taxpayers get stuck with a $58 billion basketball court called Yucca Mountain
Because of knee-jerk fear of nuclear waste.
Blocking radiation is easy, and finding a place to store the stuff is easy. But paranoid people/politicians demand waste to be buried deep underground, inside a huge mountain, far from any major city, in the remote deserts of the West. That was pretty expensive. Now add on all the effets of environmentalists obstructing the efforts...constant delays, endless court cases, billions of dollars spent on surveys that always rehash the same result "Yep, its safe", and you get the massive costs.
If this irrational fear of the word "nuclear" had never developed long ago, nuclear energy would be very cheap today.
I guess the point wasa little subtle for you, but if we can't bring back a spacecraft successfully...do you really have faith in a software system's ability to shoot down an incoming missile...
Your point was an editorial opinion. This is Slashdot, "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." Slashdot is a place for summaries and links to news stories...but not these politically left/right wing or ignorant opinions of news stories.
Really, would Slashdot be a great site if all you saw were stories like these?
Anthrax Genes Mapped
xeroxman writes "The BBC reports that scientists have mapped out the genes that make up anthrax. Personally, I find this scary. Mother Nature never intended for us to gain the knowledge of what makes diseases so deadly. This could easily fall into the wrong hands."
Georgia Plans For More Broadband
southener writes "According to the Atlanta journal, the state government is spending $500 million to lay fiber to more cities. Ya, great plan Georgia...what a waste of money. 20% of the state's population lives in poverty. I'll never vote for those Democrats again."
Linus Turns Up Dead
An anonymous coward writes "Sad news today. Linus Torvalds was found dead on the side of I-5 outside of Oakland. No other details as of yet. We can only hope that Christians won't make this more painful for us all by saying he's now living in this magical "heaven" place..."
Its fine to discuss a bug in a new Russian guidance system...but to immediately jump into a hot political topic like the SDI star wars system and then vastly overgeneralize it with "It'll never work, because it relies on computers" shouldn't have any place in this story.
So...would analyzing marriage conversations be like this?
Lyndsey Nagle: Why not both, then everybody's happy.
CBG: Oh yeah, everyone's real happy then.
Lyndsey Nagle: Do I detect a note of sarcasm?
Professor Frink: (With sarcasm detector) Are you kidding? This baby is off the charts mm-hai.
(Sarcasm detector explodes)
Courtesy of The Simpsons Archive
I think that the Mormons believe... I haven't studied Mormonism in depth, but it seems to be full of logical problems. As with many false, human religions...
You are so sure that Mormons are wrong, but you know very little, if anything, on what they believe in? *That* sounds like bad logic to me.
Until my palm can play a Quake, a Half Life, or a Freelancer BETTER than my pc, I'm not unplugging.
The reason PC's will always win over PDA's is because of 15+ inch display screens.
Seriously, what are the majority of world PC's used for? Word processing, email, and browsing the web. Try explaining the average joe that PDA's would do this better.
Average Joe: "So, on Word, I could see the whole page. How come I can't now?" You: "You can, you just have to using the scrollers a lot more." Average Joe: "And how do I type again?" You: "Either buy a fold up keyboard and plug that in, or just write the words out as clearly as you can so the PDA can understand it." Average Joe: "Ok, I think I've got it. Wait...how do I turn my font to bold?" You: "The bold button is still there, you just have to scroll to the right a bunch to find it." Average Joe: "Aaah...ok...I just wrote two paragraphs...but my first paragraph disappeared! Did I delete it?" You: *slaps forehead* "No no...it's still there, your PDA can only display roughly one paragraph at a time."
Unless PDA's can come out with some amazing holographic screens, roll up LED's, or a projection monitor...PDA's will remain mostly as schedulars and note takers.
MR ROUT: No, it does because the dividing and multiplying by zero, the set that they are adhering to, enables me - it causes things to cease to exist. Now, I have proven everything is on nothing so if everything is on nothing and you multiply it by zero, then the entire universe and the world does not exist. I have proven it conclusively. I am not hiding. . . . That is why this "white feather" letter, it has been sent to every one of these vice-chancellors of these universities and I am accusing them of conspiracy in the stealing of this technology. I have sent it to John Howard, John Howard the coward, he is a coward, and so is Simon Crean and the whole frigging lot of them.
KIRBY J: You must not abuse the occasion to be calling people names.
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I live here in Salt Lake and were thinking of going down to Lindon with a big poster or something to
We need another picketing event. The first one had, what? 40 people? And I never even heard about it. If someone can get another big picket event organized, I'll be there.
Hmm...the slashdot news story wasn't long enough. I mean, only *one* really really long paragraph? I mean, it only takes up 3/4 of the screen.
What is this world coming to...
Wow VudooCrush, this is what..already your fifth comment preaching undying support for BuyMusic.com while yelling at everyone else who doesn't like them?
They make this clear before you buy the music. If I tell you before hand not to do something, and you do it anyways, is it my fault or yours?
BuyMusic.com's fault is that they provide horrible service. So people are going to complain, ask for their money back, write nasty messages about them, boycott them, etc. They're much more misleading than most companies people deal with. They knowingly use a relatively unknown and troublesome Microsoft DRM Windows Media format, without making any *active* effort to inform people these aren't MP3's. This makes people mad.
Sure, BuyMusic.com may have their fine print in order, but how many people are going to say "Well, I guess BuyMusic.com is a great company...look at this fine print here, and that fine print there...all together, it means this broken music service is not their fault. Boy, if only I had spent a few hours researching their list of supported programs, legal claims, and tech support pages before I bought my songs."
My mistake, this bill only applies to the federal government, not for average private citizens like me.
However, because Slashdotters never like to admit total defeat, I'd like to pose the question. Do you think the the ACLU is still opposed to private citizens like me consolidating so many public government databases about individual people and properties?
Where I work, our job is to collect *public* information in government databases. We make it possible so people can research a property in just a minutes, rather than a few hours.
According to the ACLU, because I'm consolidating public information, I'm a national security threat. I should also be forced to submit to even more beaurocratic loopholes to get data that's already public, or be stopped from accessing to much public data to begin with. And I thought the ACLU was all about personal freedom and open governments
I've lived in Oak Ridge. Very nice area...very clean for Eastern Tennessee standards. Lots of trees, rivers, etc. Everything was very professional, and I never heard of any problems regarding radioactive waste. Heck, even their speed limit signs have kilometers per hour on them!
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In contrast, travel 10 miles outside of Oak Ridge back in the redneck hills, and you'll see all sorts of trash. Empty motor oil bottles, dead batteries, lighter fluid containers, etc, all sitting in the middle of streams. Seeing that, the *last* thing you'll ever think is "Did Oak Ridge dump a few pounds of radioactive waste in the ground?" Worst of all, these redneck towns still keep their speed limit signs in miles per hour!!!!
By the way, Oak Ridge National Labratory did a very nice study comparing the huge amounts of radioactive emissions from coal power plants compared to nuclear powered plants. Check it out here: http://www.ornl.gov/ORNLReview/rev26-34/text/colm
LOL. I love it. Sometimes, having -1 Troll moderations are wrong. This deserves a Score:5 Troll
Actually, the OT changes will benefit most Wal-Mart employees.
Under the current rules, any employee making more than $155 a week -- about $8,000 per year -- could be excluded from overtime...The good news is that the regulations would raise that cut-off amount to $425 a week -- about $22,100 per year -- actually adding about 1.3 million lower-wage workers to the ranks of people eligible for overtime."
The changes also make it harder for executives and those who make $65,000+ a year to claim overtime. Unfortunately, the majority of OT losses will come from "learned professionals", which could easily include computer techies.
A map.
RTA. It comes with a neat picture that explains it pretty well. The credit card one on the right seems to be the most practical reason to use bending. While viewing a map, you bend it to scroll left or right, or zoom in or out. Makes sense to me.
Can any good Mormons out there explain how the belief that you will (if you pay your tithes, etc) someday become a GOD affect your world view
Heh, was that an intentional troll to try to get a Mormon to respond? =)
The best way to answer your question is to remind you that...as a group...Mormons are generally no different from anyone else. We may have different health standards, dress modestly, and have a couple more kids...but when you get down to it, we're still all human. For some reason, when people hear the word Mormon, they think of some self-righteous religious group who means well, but they're beliefs have warped their views to the point where Mormons are out of touch with reality.
If that's not annoying enough, people also scrutinize our actions to see just how moral we really are. "Look! There! A Mormon who isn't perfect! And there, 2 more!" Well duh, we're human. We mess up just as much as Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc.
As for how beliefs affect our views...I'll try to answer this as honestly as possible. The idea you mentioned of becoming a God mentioned isn't official church doctrine...I could pull out scriptues to support both sides of the arguement. But overall, your question doesn't matter anyways. The influential belief in our lives is just getting to heaven. That means we try to be our best, admit our mistakes, and try harder next time. If I'm faced with some moral decision, I think "ok, I'm accountable for what I do...I want this...but I know I should be doing that." Sen. Hatch I know to be a really decent guy, (his computer destroying comment is way off in left field, but overall, he tries to be an honest person). The SCO execs on the other hand, they sound pretty messed up. I don't know the whole story, but on the surface, it sure doesn't look right. It makes me wonder too "Many of those SCO execs are probably Mormon. What in the world are they thinking? How can you lie to the world and slander everyone by day, and pray to God at night?" I guess it just comes down to that they're human, and you can find bad apples in all religions.
Hatch has normally been on the good side of technology. A few years back, he even led a judiciary hearing on Microsoft's evil tactics.
That's why I was so surprised to read his computer-destroying comments. They are completely out of character for a normally decent guy who doesn't like government intrusion. Hmm...maybe the comments were a fluke, or maybe he is really losing it.
Having lived in Utah for several years (out now)...This group has a tendency to believe whatever the powers that be tell them....So contrary to what you might think and comment, the employees really don't have any idea how nutty the company's claims may be; they truly believe they are correct
I'm LDS (a.k.a Mormon), and I've lived in Utah most of my life. I've noticed there are those...not many...who know next to nothing about Mormons, but still delegate themselves as experts on our church simply because they'ved lived here a few years. You definitely fall into this category.
It's fine to disagree with a church. It's entirely different to spread hate-filled overgeneralizations about a group of people you obviously know little about.
I submitted this story 2 days back. 2003-06-08 15:11:43 Microsoft wooing TigerDirect with cheaper software (articles,microsoft)-(rejected)
....(articles, microsoft)-(rejected)
/. worthy? It really pisses you off when you put all that work in, only to receive the harsh words "rejected" without any reason given.
Heh, same here...I've have 2 articles rejected. Although the editors may have reasons for rejecting articles, Slashdot really needs a better way to handle rejection. You find a great story, research it for authenticity or dupes, then find alternate links, and finally write up a paragraph with good HTML and perfect grammer. After all this, you recieve this notice:
"..don't gripe, you'll get you modded down..."
Another example of Slashdot editor's lack of professionalism. They need to tell us why was it rejected. Not catchy enough? Someone already submitted it? Not
Slashdot should have a section titled "rejected stories". It'd contain all the rejected stories submitted to the editors that day. I'd love to see those! Sure, some will suck and some will be dupes, but there's all those rare gems of stories we'll never get to see.
why did us taxpayers get stuck with a $58 billion basketball court called Yucca Mountain
Because of knee-jerk fear of nuclear waste.
Blocking radiation is easy, and finding a place to store the stuff is easy. But paranoid people/politicians demand waste to be buried deep underground, inside a huge mountain, far from any major city, in the remote deserts of the West. That was pretty expensive. Now add on all the effets of environmentalists obstructing the efforts...constant delays, endless court cases, billions of dollars spent on surveys that always rehash the same result "Yep, its safe", and you get the massive costs.
If this irrational fear of the word "nuclear" had never developed long ago, nuclear energy would be very cheap today.
from the lead-from-gold dept.
Lead from gold? Don't you mean the other way around? Unless, of course, this is Slashdot's newest money making strategy....
1) Buy lots of gold
2) Turn it into lead
3) ????
4) Profit!
I guess the point wasa little subtle for you, but if we can't bring back a spacecraft successfully...do you really have faith in a software system's ability to shoot down an incoming missile...
Your point was an editorial opinion. This is Slashdot, "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." Slashdot is a place for summaries and links to news stories...but not these politically left/right wing or ignorant opinions of news stories.
Really, would Slashdot be a great site if all you saw were stories like these?
Anthrax Genes Mapped
xeroxman writes "The BBC reports that scientists have mapped out the genes that make up anthrax. Personally, I find this scary. Mother Nature never intended for us to gain the knowledge of what makes diseases so deadly. This could easily fall into the wrong hands."
Georgia Plans For More Broadband
southener writes "According to the Atlanta journal, the state government is spending $500 million to lay fiber to more cities. Ya, great plan Georgia...what a waste of money. 20% of the state's population lives in poverty. I'll never vote for those Democrats again."
Linus Turns Up Dead
An anonymous coward writes "Sad news today. Linus Torvalds was found dead on the side of I-5 outside of Oakland. No other details as of yet. We can only hope that Christians won't make this more painful for us all by saying he's now living in this magical "heaven" place..."
Talk about your flaming articles
Its fine to discuss a bug in a new Russian guidance system...but to immediately jump into a hot political topic like the SDI star wars system and then vastly overgeneralize it with "It'll never work, because it relies on computers" shouldn't have any place in this story.
So...would analyzing marriage conversations be like this?
Lyndsey Nagle: Why not both, then everybody's happy.
CBG: Oh yeah, everyone's real happy then.
Lyndsey Nagle: Do I detect a note of sarcasm?
Professor Frink: (With sarcasm detector) Are you kidding? This baby is off the charts mm-hai.
(Sarcasm detector explodes)
Courtesy of The Simpsons Archive
Some guys opinion!
/. as a story?
I wonder how I can get trolling (or was it flamebait) articles posted on
What!? Don't you know? Its *Itanium*, everybody knows what Itanium is!
.NET thing exactly do?"
Jeez...next thing you know you'll be asking..."And what does this
I think that the Mormons believe...
I haven't studied Mormonism in depth, but it seems to be full of logical problems. As with many false, human religions...
You are so sure that Mormons are wrong, but you know very little, if anything, on what they believe in? *That* sounds like bad logic to me.
Until my palm can play a Quake, a Half Life, or a Freelancer BETTER than my pc, I'm not unplugging.
The reason PC's will always win over PDA's is because of 15+ inch display screens.
Seriously, what are the majority of world PC's used for? Word processing, email, and browsing the web. Try explaining the average joe that PDA's would do this better.
Average Joe: "So, on Word, I could see the whole page. How come I can't now?"
You: "You can, you just have to using the scrollers a lot more."
Average Joe: "And how do I type again?"
You: "Either buy a fold up keyboard and plug that in, or just write the words out as clearly as you can so the PDA can understand it."
Average Joe: "Ok, I think I've got it. Wait...how do I turn my font to bold?"
You: "The bold button is still there, you just have to scroll to the right a bunch to find it."
Average Joe: "Aaah...ok...I just wrote two paragraphs...but my first paragraph disappeared! Did I delete it?"
You: *slaps forehead* "No no...it's still there, your PDA can only display roughly one paragraph at a time."
Unless PDA's can come out with some amazing holographic screens, roll up LED's, or a projection monitor...PDA's will remain mostly as schedulars and note takers.
MR ROUT: No, it does because the dividing and multiplying by zero, the set that they are adhering to, enables me - it causes things to cease to exist. Now, I have proven everything is on nothing so if everything is on nothing and you multiply it by zero, then the entire universe and the world does not exist. I have proven it conclusively. I am not hiding. . . . That is why this "white feather" letter, it has been sent to every one of these vice-chancellors of these universities and I am accusing them of conspiracy in the stealing of this technology. I have sent it to John Howard, John Howard the coward, he is a coward, and so is Simon Crean and the whole frigging lot of them.
KIRBY J: You must not abuse the occasion to be calling people names.
I about died laughing reading this!
I don't know. I guess I should stop worrying and let the /. crowd think for me on this subject. =)