Maybe it's going to be part of the not-used parts of the film? The original cut was almost 5 hours, and they cut it down to just under three for the theatrical release.
You do know that when you install most extensions, they ask if you want to install into the program directory, or into your profile directory. When you install into your profile directory, you wont loose them. Well, I've yet to loose them, on Windows systems (when rremoving/installing or installing over previous versions) or on Linux systems.
I think the point was BECAUSE Bill Gates was of the mindset "Ok, I woulnd't know anything if it wasn't for people giving it away freely, but if anyone wants my stuff they must PAY PAY PAY!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAA!!!"
That people started switching to Open Source Software.
"I was just generalizing from thousands of results for "winprinter" on Google."
Fine
"So what happens when you have to relocate to a geographic area where DSL and cable have 500 USD setup fees plus 80 USD/mo?"
I have no idea, go with sattelite? See how much a residential T-1 line costs? Do without?
I don't plan on moving anywhere without relatively inexpensive ($45 CAN, approximate, which is what I pay now)
Other than that, I'll probably just use my work internet, or see if I can get a discounted connection through them.
"What steps should I take to learn how to live on my own, thousands of miles away from my parents? In addition, the Indiana vocational rehabilitation service wants me to get a job in Indiana."
Well, I would have said live in a dorm while in college. It would give you the experience of living without parents, with the responsibilities of groceries, bills, budgeting and organization, without the worry of having to pay rent (it's paid at the beginning).
Other than that, I don't think there's anything you can do. Maybe, in the mean time, start working out a deal with the parents about paying your share of the bills, do groceries occasionally, and the like.
"Will Chick-fil-A help or hurt my resume?"
Hey, a job's a job. Work experience will be better on your resume than a big blank space.
"Tell that to any owner of a Microtek Scanmaker 4850 scanner. The 4800 series is listed as completely unsupported in SANE"
Well, I appologize to all the owners of that particular scanner who wished to get it running under Linux. It's nothing the Linux community can fix, and if the owners/users have a problem, they should contact Microtek and tell them that they want Linux supported.
"Yes. Here, the prefix Win- denotes a computer system component whose manufacturer has denied documentation to the free software community."
I understand the use of the prefix Win-, however, I have only ever encountered it in the form of winmodem, never before in regards to any other piece of hardware.
"When putting together a new computer, a fellow has a chance to look through the hardware and check each component against a distribution's hardware compatibility list. When replacing a computer's operating system, on the other hand, a fellow may have to replace components, and by the time he has replaced enough components, he might as well just buy a new computer."
Compatable, not new. Using compatable components, a person could install Linux on a 386. That's definately not new. I've installed Linux on Cyrix 586 systems, AMD-K6's, PII's and Celeron systems. These were new systems, used systems, refurbished business machines and a refurbished laptop, all from different (and some unknown) brands. The ONLY hardware incompatability I've come across is the winmodem on my laptop, but since I don't use dialup, I don't think about it.
"That doesn't help if I lack a job and thus lack the money to replace the components in my computer with Linux-compatible components. Should I leave my family behind against my family's express wishes in order to find work in my field (BSCS), or should I take a minimum wage job in fast food or retail? "
1) Then wait till you get money to replace the components, but when you do, choose a company that supports Linux.
2) I don't have a job, either. It didn't stop me from having systems that haven't had compatability issues.
3) Why does your family have a problem with moving to an area where you can find work in the field you have been trained in? Would this be your parents, or your spouse? If it were my parents, I would leave to get that work, because I would have spent a lot of time, money and effort to get my degree, and I wouldn't want that to go to waste.
And if it comes down to it, yes, take the minimum wage job. It's money, and you only have to take it till you get something in your field (or some other job that pays better).
"Winmodem" Some winmodems work under Linux, I don't know which ones,though. I don't use dialup. Aside from that, hardware modems can be bought for $20.
"Codec patents. DMCA/EUCD." I've only encountered that with one DVD, and one video file (quicktime, no audio played, video was fine).
"Winscanner." Well, I've NEVER heard that term before. and I've yet to come across a problem with any scanner I've had (not many, and mostly small-name brands).
"Winvideo-card." Are you making these up? Jeez. An ATI card. Go figure.
Do you want to know what the problem is? Well I assume you already do, since it's in your subject line. The hardware manufacturers are the problem. They don't want to release drivers for Linux because either they think that they need to release the source (I'm assuming that they think that), or that they don't think that the users are there to warrant spending time developing the drivers.
They also don't tend to release enough documentation on the card, which would be needed for a third-party (OSS, in this case) driver to be written with all the features available.
For new computers only? Hell no.
As for the hardware problem, complain to the manufacturers about getting them to support linux, boycott them untill they do (and tell them why), or use products from a company that does support linux (like nVidia).
Support the companies that support your OS choice, so they know that their support is appreciated, and don't support the companies that won't support your OS choice.
Well, considering that the US Space Program is probably the largest and best funded program that exists currently, and that the majority of manned flights happen with some assistance of NASA, and that the only people who've landed on the moon are NASA astronauts, and that the landers on Mars are from the NASA.
The assumption comes from seeing that, so far, the majority HAS been NASA.
Yeah, eventually, another nation will get to a point where they can contend (Russia? China? How are their programs going?), but, at the moment, space is American territory.
Anyways, I believe that the shuttle program should be scrapped, and replaced with a vehicle that'll actually take people into space, and not just hovering around this planet.
"4. Do their personal finances." I'm pretty sure this is done, too
"5. Capture and email pictures to Grandma" Done
"6. Capture and work with video." I'm not quite sure on this one, at least for home users.
"7. Sync their iPods, IPaqs, Palm, or *insert other device here*" Done
"8. Play Games they are familiar with (FPS, RPG, MMORPGs, RTS, "the Sims" *shudder*)" Probably the most 'lacking'
"8. Play games with 3D acceleration" Done. I've played Unreal Tournament, America's Army, Tux Racer, Operation Flashpoint (via WINE) and a few others in Linux with 3D acceleration.
Out of the box? I needed to install jpilot for my Palm. The rest of it was done during install.
Libranet Linux (a.k.a "Debian that works", in my experience)
Unstable and Testing are the Debian categories, because they concentrate on having a rock-solid system, as opposed to running recent software.
Testing level packages are (if I remember correctly, it's been a while since I used straight debian), are what most other distro's have had on their install CD's. Recent, but not the latest versions of the software, and may or may not require upgrading.
Unstable is the latest versions available on the apt-repository. They havent been though the months and years of testing and the like that the debian guys put stuff through.
If you don't like how they do this, but you want to use apt, you can try one of the other Debian based distro's out there (I use libranet) which combine the ease of use of the APT system, but using recent releases of the software. And you can select the level that you want to download from (apt-get -t testing/unstable install packagename)so you can download whatever version you want.
The only time I've had a problem running apt, was actually just yesterday, when I was trying to use their precompiled 2.6.8 kernel package, and all that required to fix was rebooting and selecting the default 2.4.21 kernel.
Not directly, but they do pay for the material (textbooks, videos, computer software, etc.) they teach the subjects with. Then, those who provide the education material pay the creators or the publishers or whomever.
Linux will never be ready for computer users like Windows is ready for them. Once IE and Office run on Linux natively then Linux can finally be branded "the Windows killer." Until that time it just cannot have it beat.
Aren't two of the biggest reasons why people leave Windows IE and Office? Yeah, MSOffice is the "standard" and there are good functions about it, and that it does have some "advanced" tools, but do most people use those tools? For those that do, is the MSOffice version the best available, or would there be something that would do it better?
Spyware, exploits and the like are in no way irrelivant. I'm not sure about you, but I don't think that many people like having their web habits collected and sold, or having their credit card numbers harvisted, or having their computers crash, their data erased or any of the other many things that could happen.
I have receved MS Office documents that don't format properly in MS Office (from 2k and XP into both 2k and XP).
I've had many driver problems on many different systems with Win2k and XP. About 8 of the 10 network cards I've used (D-Link and Linksys, no off-brands), have required the driver CD (which also included Linux drivers, and a handy 4 step installation guide), I've had soundcards that dont detect properly, or don't have the drivers located on the computer (requiring the WIndows CD, or the manufacturer's CD, or to download the drivers from the net).
No, not everything's as easy as Windows, but it's not as hard as you are making it out to be.
1) Probably nothing, aside from some blogging services have external "Blogging" apps, so you don't have to go to the website to update it. LiveJournal has many clients. 2)Why do people use Internet Explorer? Why to people buy Opera? People will buy things because they think "It costs money? It must be better" or "It's a Microsoft product? It's obviously the best".
Yeah, the AS/400 is a nice system, though I was having a hell of a time trying to understand/program for it (which caused me to despise it at the time).
Tis too bad that they're not commonly available to the public, I'll probably never have access to one again.
>Interestingly enough, that was the exact argument given for the license change of XFree86;P
I didn't follow that whole shpiel, so I don't know what happened with it or why everyone's going against the XFree people, or why X.Org is getting popular. I just think it makes sense, you do the work, you get the credit. If someone wants to use your work in their project, they should ask permission, and use the code according to your wishes (via the licence you choose). If they don't want to use it, they can go somewhere else.
As far as I'm concerned with XFree, it's their right to change their licence and I don't care. If the new licence doesn't jive with the other licences of the software I'm using, I'll either stick to a version that does jive, or I'll find an alternative.
I haven't distributed much code, as I've mostly done the odd shell script to automate a few things (I made a little script that'll change the.xsession file depending on what windowmanager you want to use. It's been my most complex thing, so far, comprised of an echoed menu and a few if statements).
So, in the end, we agree, use what works best for each given situation.
It's not that software should be free, it's that credit should be given to those who create the code, and when distributed, all code that is under the licence should be made available to those who use the software.
No the GPL doesn't always fit with people's intentions, but neither does the BSD licence (not that I'm saying you said it did). Some people aren't comfortable with allowing code they write and distribute "freely" to be used by people who don't have the same values in regards to software.
I haven't personally had experience with any subpar IBM, either (I have a Thinkpad, and both my mother and grandmother have refurbished IBM desktops), but I have talked to people who have.
I've purchased one compaq (a refurbished, off-lease desktop), ad since it was off-lease, I figured that it might be of better quality. I was wrong, and the hard drive (or the HD controller) died within two hours. I got a quick refund (it was only $60 to begin with).
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You, are not a geek.
Maybe it's going to be part of the not-used parts of the film? The original cut was almost 5 hours, and they cut it down to just under three for the theatrical release.
You do know that when you install most extensions, they ask if you want to install into the program directory, or into your profile directory. When you install into your profile directory, you wont loose them. Well, I've yet to loose them, on Windows systems (when rremoving/installing or installing over previous versions) or on Linux systems.
It depends, is it that Microsoft powered BMW (I think it was BMW)?
It's the e...e...E...E....EeeeeeeeWoks!
I think the point was BECAUSE Bill Gates was of the mindset "Ok, I woulnd't know anything if it wasn't for people giving it away freely, but if anyone wants my stuff they must PAY PAY PAY!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAA!!!"
That people started switching to Open Source Software.
(Exageration used for comedic effect)
What about the shiny new icons?
Maybe it was sarcasm???
"I was just generalizing from thousands of results for "winprinter" on Google."
Fine
"So what happens when you have to relocate to a geographic area where DSL and cable have 500 USD setup fees plus 80 USD/mo?"
I have no idea, go with sattelite? See how much a residential T-1 line costs? Do without?
I don't plan on moving anywhere without relatively inexpensive ($45 CAN, approximate, which is what I pay now)
Other than that, I'll probably just use my work internet, or see if I can get a discounted connection through them.
"What steps should I take to learn how to live on my own, thousands of miles away from my parents? In addition, the Indiana vocational rehabilitation service wants me to get a job in Indiana."
Well, I would have said live in a dorm while in college. It would give you the experience of living without parents, with the responsibilities of groceries, bills, budgeting and organization, without the worry of having to pay rent (it's paid at the beginning).
Other than that, I don't think there's anything you can do. Maybe, in the mean time, start working out a deal with the parents about paying your share of the bills, do groceries occasionally, and the like.
"Will Chick-fil-A help or hurt my resume?"
Hey, a job's a job. Work experience will be better on your resume than a big blank space.
Maybe not at this particular moment, but over the last few years, the USA has been the frontman in the space game.
"Tell that to any owner of a Microtek Scanmaker 4850 scanner. The 4800 series is listed as completely unsupported in SANE"
Well, I appologize to all the owners of that particular scanner who wished to get it running under Linux. It's nothing the Linux community can fix, and if the owners/users have a problem, they should contact Microtek and tell them that they want Linux supported.
"Yes. Here, the prefix Win- denotes a computer system component whose manufacturer has denied documentation to the free software community."
I understand the use of the prefix Win-, however, I have only ever encountered it in the form of winmodem, never before in regards to any other piece of hardware.
"When putting together a new computer, a fellow has a chance to look through the hardware and check each component against a distribution's hardware compatibility list. When replacing a computer's operating system, on the other hand, a fellow may have to replace components, and by the time he has replaced enough components, he might as well just buy a new computer."
Compatable, not new. Using compatable components, a person could install Linux on a 386. That's definately not new. I've installed Linux on Cyrix 586 systems, AMD-K6's, PII's and Celeron systems. These were new systems, used systems, refurbished business machines and a refurbished laptop, all from different (and some unknown) brands. The ONLY hardware incompatability I've come across is the winmodem on my laptop, but since I don't use dialup, I don't think about it.
"That doesn't help if I lack a job and thus lack the money to replace the components in my computer with Linux-compatible components. Should I leave my family behind against my family's express wishes in order to find work in my field (BSCS), or should I take a minimum wage job in fast food or retail? "
1) Then wait till you get money to replace the components, but when you do, choose a company that supports Linux.
2) I don't have a job, either. It didn't stop me from having systems that haven't had compatability issues.
3) Why does your family have a problem with moving to an area where you can find work in the field you have been trained in? Would this be your parents, or your spouse? If it were my parents, I would leave to get that work, because I would have spent a lot of time, money and effort to get my degree, and I wouldn't want that to go to waste.
And if it comes down to it, yes, take the minimum wage job. It's money, and you only have to take it till you get something in your field (or some other job that pays better).
"Winmodem"
Some winmodems work under Linux, I don't know which ones,though. I don't use dialup. Aside from that, hardware modems can be bought for $20.
"Codec patents. DMCA/EUCD."
I've only encountered that with one DVD, and one video file (quicktime, no audio played, video was fine).
"Winscanner."
Well, I've NEVER heard that term before. and I've yet to come across a problem with any scanner I've had (not many, and mostly small-name brands).
"Winvideo-card."
Are you making these up? Jeez. An ATI card. Go figure.
Do you want to know what the problem is? Well I assume you already do, since it's in your subject line. The hardware manufacturers are the problem. They don't want to release drivers for Linux because either they think that they need to release the source (I'm assuming that they think that), or that they don't think that the users are there to warrant spending time developing the drivers.
They also don't tend to release enough documentation on the card, which would be needed for a third-party (OSS, in this case) driver to be written with all the features available.
For new computers only? Hell no.
As for the hardware problem, complain to the manufacturers about getting them to support linux, boycott them untill they do (and tell them why), or use products from a company that does support linux (like nVidia).
Support the companies that support your OS choice, so they know that their support is appreciated, and don't support the companies that won't support your OS choice.
Well, considering that the US Space Program is probably the largest and best funded program that exists currently, and that the majority of manned flights happen with some assistance of NASA, and that the only people who've landed on the moon are NASA astronauts, and that the landers on Mars are from the NASA.
The assumption comes from seeing that, so far, the majority HAS been NASA.
Yeah, eventually, another nation will get to a point where they can contend (Russia? China? How are their programs going?), but, at the moment, space is American territory.
Anyways, I believe that the shuttle program should be scrapped, and replaced with a vehicle that'll actually take people into space, and not just hovering around this planet.
"1. Listen to CDs"
Done
"2. Get on the Internet."
Done
"3. Watch video clips."
Done
"4. Do their personal finances."
I'm pretty sure this is done, too
"5. Capture and email pictures to Grandma"
Done
"6. Capture and work with video."
I'm not quite sure on this one, at least for home users.
"7. Sync their iPods, IPaqs, Palm, or *insert other device here*"
Done
"8. Play Games they are familiar with (FPS, RPG, MMORPGs, RTS, "the Sims" *shudder*)"
Probably the most 'lacking'
"8. Play games with 3D acceleration"
Done. I've played Unreal Tournament, America's Army, Tux Racer, Operation Flashpoint (via WINE) and a few others in Linux with 3D acceleration.
Out of the box? I needed to install jpilot for my Palm. The rest of it was done during install.
Libranet Linux (a.k.a "Debian that works", in my experience)
56K? Oh yeah, dial-up. I forgot what that's like. I hope I never have to remember. You have my sympathies.
Unstable and Testing are the Debian categories, because they concentrate on having a rock-solid system, as opposed to running recent software.
Testing level packages are (if I remember correctly, it's been a while since I used straight debian), are what most other distro's have had on their install CD's. Recent, but not the latest versions of the software, and may or may not require upgrading.
Unstable is the latest versions available on the apt-repository. They havent been though the months and years of testing and the like that the debian guys put stuff through.
If you don't like how they do this, but you want to use apt, you can try one of the other Debian based distro's out there (I use libranet) which combine the ease of use of the APT system, but using recent releases of the software. And you can select the level that you want to download from (apt-get -t testing/unstable install packagename)so you can download whatever version you want.
The only time I've had a problem running apt, was actually just yesterday, when I was trying to use their precompiled 2.6.8 kernel package, and all that required to fix was rebooting and selecting the default 2.4.21 kernel.
Asiide from that, my system has been solid.
Not directly, but they do pay for the material (textbooks, videos, computer software, etc.) they teach the subjects with. Then, those who provide the education material pay the creators or the publishers or whomever.
Thanks! That means soo much to me, ::sniffle::
http://www.libranet.com/
That is all, mod me how you wish.
Linux will never be ready for computer users like Windows is ready for them. Once IE and Office run on Linux natively then Linux can finally be branded "the Windows killer." Until that time it just cannot have it beat.
Aren't two of the biggest reasons why people leave Windows IE and Office? Yeah, MSOffice is the "standard" and there are good functions about it, and that it does have some "advanced" tools, but do most people use those tools? For those that do, is the MSOffice version the best available, or would there be something that would do it better?
Spyware, exploits and the like are in no way irrelivant. I'm not sure about you, but I don't think that many people like having their web habits collected and sold, or having their credit card numbers harvisted, or having their computers crash, their data erased or any of the other many things that could happen.
I have receved MS Office documents that don't format properly in MS Office (from 2k and XP into both 2k and XP).
I've had many driver problems on many different systems with Win2k and XP. About 8 of the 10 network cards I've used (D-Link and Linksys, no off-brands), have required the driver CD (which also included Linux drivers, and a handy 4 step installation guide), I've had soundcards that dont detect properly, or don't have the drivers located on the computer (requiring the WIndows CD, or the manufacturer's CD, or to download the drivers from the net).
No, not everything's as easy as Windows, but it's not as hard as you are making it out to be.
1) Probably nothing, aside from some blogging services have external "Blogging" apps, so you don't have to go to the website to update it. LiveJournal has many clients.
2)Why do people use Internet Explorer? Why to people buy Opera? People will buy things because they think "It costs money? It must be better" or "It's a Microsoft product? It's obviously the best".
Yeah, the AS/400 is a nice system, though I was having a hell of a time trying to understand/program for it (which caused me to despise it at the time).
Tis too bad that they're not commonly available to the public, I'll probably never have access to one again.
>Interestingly enough, that was the exact argument given for the license change of XFree86
I didn't follow that whole shpiel, so I don't know what happened with it or why everyone's going against the XFree people, or why X.Org is getting popular. I just think it makes sense, you do the work, you get the credit. If someone wants to use your work in their project, they should ask permission, and use the code according to your wishes (via the licence you choose). If they don't want to use it, they can go somewhere else.
As far as I'm concerned with XFree, it's their right to change their licence and I don't care. If the new licence doesn't jive with the other licences of the software I'm using, I'll either stick to a version that does jive, or I'll find an alternative.
I haven't distributed much code, as I've mostly done the odd shell script to automate a few things (I made a little script that'll change the
So, in the end, we agree, use what works best for each given situation.
It's not that software should be free, it's that credit should be given to those who create the code, and when distributed, all code that is under the licence should be made available to those who use the software.
No the GPL doesn't always fit with people's intentions, but neither does the BSD licence (not that I'm saying you said it did). Some people aren't comfortable with allowing code they write and distribute "freely" to be used by people who don't have the same values in regards to software.
I haven't personally had experience with any subpar IBM, either (I have a Thinkpad, and both my mother and grandmother have refurbished IBM desktops), but I have talked to people who have. I've purchased one compaq (a refurbished, off-lease desktop), ad since it was off-lease, I figured that it might be of better quality. I was wrong, and the hard drive (or the HD controller) died within two hours. I got a quick refund (it was only $60 to begin with).