...just buy a computer, that has the features that you want in the first place! ^^
I mean it’s all nice, and “because I can”y, but I stopped getting the point at a certain level of modding.
It’s like: Hey, let’s not buy a Ferrari, but a Tata Nano, and then replace all the Tata parts one by one by Ferrari parts, until it’s basically a Ferrari with Tata looks, that can’t beat a real Ferrari but costed more. ^^ I mean, the reason why you wanted to do this aside (as I understand the “the journey is the reward” and “because I can” well), but wouldn’t it be smarter and cheaper to buy a Ferrari and then wrap it in a Tata body and interior?:)
Exactly. I don’t think the phone model would have been mentioned (and with a wink nonetheless) that way if it were another phone.
Besides: Even a iPhone that sent stuff to another planet and got a reply, can’t beat a Linux running Nokia N900 with built-in full root access, from a company whose phones had SSH terminal software available for more than seven years now. </proper-geek-fanboyism>;)
No. They then haven’t even sold it to you at all. Selling means making the contract. Which did not happen yet. So they still need to sell it, or give you back the money that you gave them in advance. Or else you sue the living shit out of them for theft, fraud, and illegal advertisement practices.:)
So who exactly is that guy/company, to tell me what is how, and what is allowed or not allowed? Do they really think their clients are just cattle that follow whatever made-up own rules they throw out there?
If that price is negotiable is not your decision Amazon! It is ours. Because without us, you’re fucked. The Spore debacle has shown, that the times of companies dominating their clients is over. The Internet killed it, by freeing us.
Hey Companies! You’re our clients too, you know? You buy our money with your products. And we now put rules to when you get that right, too! And hey bosses and managers! You’re next!
(Then again, fair companies and bosses with good deals will now earn what they deserve, too.)
I already got simple free web remote control over your PC. It’s called a botnet!:D
On a more serious note: What is wrong with those web-served VNC applets, that you just surf to, and then log in, to see your desktop? I found them really easy to use.
<:D>At least if you’re a noob, requiring a colorful clickable UI. Real men use SSH.</:D>
Then agan, nowadays, for some type of fish that is hunted, there is only 0.01% (more realistically 1%) of that type in the nets. So what do they do? Throw the rest overboard again. With most of it already dead.
So while I agree with your basic argument, you — perhaps because you never were on a fishing boat — left out this crucial detail.:)
That people think it’s weird to eat raw things. Instead of thinking how weird it is, to eat things that were so much changed due to cooking (destructive heating), fermentation (bacteria), conservation (e.g. white flour products) and extraction (pure sugar/salt) etc, that it barely resembles the original anymore.
I mean we eat the “result” (“poo”) of what happens to milk from other species when digested by some forms of bacteria. (cheese) Or carbohydrate-containing stuff that is purified so much that it lacks all the vitamins required to actually digest it without getting sick (with a delay). (high-on-sugar products) And we think raw meat is strange??:D
By the way: What else is a good steak, if not at least half-raw? Does not make it any worse, does it?:)
Uuum, it gets frozen on the ship, and stays frozen in the less than a day that it takes to get to where you buy it. I think it’s even illegal to sell it otherwise, no? At least that is what I heard.
I don’t think that distance is much of a problem for frozen goods. And freezing is the most healthy form (and the only one I accept) of conservation anyway. (If I do other forms [e.g. fermentation, cooking], it’s for the taste, never solely for the conservation.)
A weird thing about your comment is, that you talk like eating out would be the default. I dunno, but I only eat out when I don’t have the choice of eating at home. Then again, I’m a better at cooking than any restaurant that I can afford anyway. ^^
Let’s go back to burgers, fries, cola and sweets then... ^^ Just as bad, but at least it tastes great!;)
I have long given up the expectation that “everything, where I don’t know otherwise, is healthy”. It just comes down to if it’s worth it. If I live only 30 years, but have lived more than some “healthy” (well, only in his dreams, if he’s not literally planting it himself and eating it all-raw) 100 year old, it was damn worth it! ^^
Luckily, I have found that nowadays, I get nauseous and squirrely from sweets and saturated fats. Then 15 minutes later, I’m hungry as hell again. So to me, those things actually have worse memories associated with them. And since I’m a good cook and know that a big part of the secret of great taste is freshness... which happens to also be a big part of the secret of what is healthy food... I have no trouble making all stuff taste really great.:)
Yeah well... Sorry to spoil it, but that only works for non-physicists. Everybody with half a brain knows that it would grow exponentially, and not first pop to a size, and then slow down to steady growing, then suddenly jump to a bigger size just when the first camera dies, to then slow down to a faster, but still steady pace. ^^
In reality, it would be more like: 2nd second: LHC, 3rd second: city. 4th second: planet. The problem of course being, that when it gets slower and slower, the closer you get to the starting time, it ends in infinity, which is exactly why nothing would happen.
P.S.: *sings* Yes yes yes, I pulled this all out of my ass. But I’m close enough to reality, and it’s really fun, hee heee...;)
The thing is, that is all stems from a criminal action that is somehow “right” because it is the law-makers who do it: Forbidding people, to do what they want, with their own bodies!
Everybody can do to himself whatever he wants. Drugs, dumb shit, suicide. It’s YOUR body! You own it. All alone. Nobody but you has any right to tell you what to do or not to do with your own body. If he does, he is the criminal. Period. I don’t think anybody ever disagrees with that one, when it’s about his own body.
But there are some, who disagree, when it’s about the bodies of others. Because they like to control them, and have power over them. And that is the crime. That’s why I said “period”.
I think ketchup is tomato jam, and just as anything cooked with a high sugar content, is utter trash, and no food at all. But I would never tell you what to think of it, or if you should eat it. I can only tell you my opinion, and how I came up with it. Who knows, some people like to destroy themselves, others think that it’s better to live 30 years of intense no-limits fun, than 100 years of boredom and sadness... everyone is different. And I do my share of bad things too, so who am I to criticize you anyway?:)
I, for one, will continue to fight for my freedom. (But with much more advanced techniques than primitive guerilla tactics or useless protests. I will walk the way of full scale social engineering (hacking human( brain)s) on those who try to dominate us, until I dominate them and they haven’t even realized it, still thinking they dominate me... if I have to... Everything else is just n00b-script-kiddie-stuff. ^^ “In $myWorld, computer hacks YOU. ^^)
Uuuum no. One could write your first sentence like this, and it would still be true:
Is this of any surprise that the people don’t really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want?
Companies are that way, because people are that way. I think nearly everybody already knows exactly, that nearly everything he buys, be it clothing, toys or food, is made that cheap through exploitation. Everybody knows this deep down. All the time. But we repress it, to justify our nice lives. (Remember that there is a evolutionary reason why we learned to act that way.)
Public exposure won’t change this. We will simply ignore it and invent excuses. That is how repression works. And it’s just as smart as you are. Because it is you.
Repression is a hard thing to come by. Normally it closes down even more, when under pressure. (It just fights back harder.) It’s like forcing someone to love you... That won’t ever work. ^^ (There, I spoiled it for you, Fritzl! ^^) So you do the opposite, to make it open up. Like with those finger-traps, that hold firmer if you pull harder. (Sorry. Car analogies are out today.;) I think you get the idea of what to do...
But they would. If there were a modern version of the 70s VW hippy bus with the Apple logo on it. ^^ Maybe with some hipster music playing on a crappy but good-looking 7.1 car sound system.;)
Now imagine all that inside your body, and you know how a smoker looks on the inside.
The weirdest thing ever are those retards, who smoke outside in their own home... because they don’t want it to become like that. But their freakin’ own body? Nooo, why would that be a problem? It’s repression at its finest. One can’t get dumber in terms of double standards, than this. ^^
Now tell me you did not have physical withdrawal symptoms...
Be thankful, that you had the psychological strength, to withstand them anyway.
Many people don’t. And that is why it’s not a mind-only thing.
You should know, that industrial cigarette tobacco, with its 600+ additives, has a higher addictiveness than heroine. At least that did the studies say that a friend of mine showed me. And he, as a affected one, agrees.
According to an heroin addict I knew, and some studies, the 600+ additives in industrial cigarette tobacco make it in fact more addictive than heroin. Not necessarily more destructive. But more addictive. (You know, just like a successful virus/bacterium/parasite does not destroy its host.)
The only thing that he ever tried, that was worse, were clinical anti-depressants. Where you wake up in the morning and neither remember who, nor where you are.
Stupid primitive psychology an physiology ignoring slogans like this are the reason why people still don’t do actual research on the subject and reasons, when they want to cure themselves.
Firs of all, tobacco is only a small part of the problem, as cigarettes nowadays contain 600+ partially highly addictive and toxic additive substances. Tobacco without those is not nearly as bad.
Second, this is a chemical change in your body. I want to see the willpower that fixes that physiological change... Go ahead... It’s like “ownin” your broken leg, to walk again.
So you need to fix that, by influencing your body to changes in the opposite direction
For the psychological effect, I recommend reading up on what an psychological addiction really is: The substitution of the drug for something that you really miss, so you can repress that, because it is “too horrible” for your more primitive emotional parts of the brain. And that on’s easy to solve: Find the original thing that you miss, and get it. Loads of it! Of course in practice, that is often very hard or impossible. But still, even facing that fact of what it is that you miss, realizing how bad and painful that was, and then re-training your brain to learn that the wrong association, that all of life is that painful, is wrong. By re-connecting your associations with reality again, now that you are able to know reality again. (Which is impossible as long as the repression is still active.) (I how that now you see, how primitive your comment was, compared to this.)
But OK, most of the time, it’s just a physiological addiction, and you have to solve that first anyway.
P.S.: Please, I hope you don’t feel insulted by me calling you “primitive”. Since I was just as, if not even more primitive that that, some years ago. And I bet if you get behind it and learn up on that stuff, you can easily call me primitive again in some years.:)
Yeah, but you did still not even lose one thought about why you are addicted, and what addiction is. (Marijuana does not have to come with an addiction. In fact it’s the only ‘drug’, except maybe from alcohol, where I saw people just stop for more than half a year, after e.g. a week of intense usage.)
An addiction is a substitutional behavior for something that you really miss. But instead of getting that, you are satisfied with the substitution. (Of course, often the substitution loses its effect over time.)
So maybe I’ll check for what you might miss, but have completely repressed. (If you’re a geek, that might be a girlfriend. As it very often is the love of someone [e.g. parents].)
Does’t mean you have to stop smoking pot after that. Just that your life could be so much happier.:)
I’m not saying you’re wrong. I just wonder how you think you that insulting someone and offering nothing else than ad-hominem style non-arguments will convince us or especially him so say that you’re right? ^^ Especially since I know that some good arguments made you take that point of view in the first place. So you can definitely do much better.:)
Protip: To change someone’s opinion, there is no way around first agreeing with him. And being friendly enough that he listens to you. Even if he is wrong and an ass. Or your 13 year old son. No not even. Especially in those cases! Disclaimer: Yep, I need to get better at this too.:) Funny note: You used “projection”. Because your ignorance was the reason you called him ignorant. (Okay, I know, now I definitely blew it. So I’ll go now.:)
Slashdot Mirror
Impossible! I already patented the action of patenting! And I patented (the result* of) x':
x'(x) = something whose patenting would prevent patenting x
where x in X
X = { x'(y) | y <- Y }
Y = { p, X }
p = "patenting the action of patenting".
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* if you don't think in the functional programming / mathematical way.
...just buy a computer, that has the features that you want in the first place! ^^
I mean it’s all nice, and “because I can”y, but I stopped getting the point at a certain level of modding.
It’s like: Hey, let’s not buy a Ferrari, but a Tata Nano, and then replace all the Tata parts one by one by Ferrari parts, until it’s basically a Ferrari with Tata looks, that can’t beat a real Ferrari but costed more. ^^ :)
I mean, the reason why you wanted to do this aside (as I understand the “the journey is the reward” and “because I can” well), but wouldn’t it be smarter and cheaper to buy a Ferrari and then wrap it in a Tata body and interior?
That’s called an American discotheque. ^^
Exactly. I don’t think the phone model would have been mentioned (and with a wink nonetheless) that way if it were another phone.
Besides: Even a iPhone that sent stuff to another planet and got a reply, can’t beat a Linux running Nokia N900 with built-in full root access, from a company whose phones had SSH terminal software available for more than seven years now. </proper-geek-fanboyism> ;)
they should buy it back from you.
No. They then haven’t even sold it to you at all. Selling means making the contract. Which did not happen yet. So they still need to sell it, or give you back the money that you gave them in advance. Or else you sue the living shit out of them for theft, fraud, and illegal advertisement practices. :)
This price unfortunately is not negotiable
So who exactly is that guy/company, to tell me what is how, and what is allowed or not allowed?
Do they really think their clients are just cattle that follow whatever made-up own rules they throw out there?
If that price is negotiable is not your decision Amazon! It is ours. Because without us, you’re fucked.
The Spore debacle has shown, that the times of companies dominating their clients is over. The Internet killed it, by freeing us.
Hey Companies! You’re our clients too, you know? You buy our money with your products. And we now put rules to when you get that right, too!
And hey bosses and managers! You’re next!
(Then again, fair companies and bosses with good deals will now earn what they deserve, too.)
I already got simple free web remote control over your PC. It’s called a botnet! :D
On a more serious note: What is wrong with those web-served VNC applets, that you just surf to, and then log in, to see your desktop? I found them really easy to use.
<:D>At least if you’re a noob, requiring a colorful clickable UI. Real men use SSH.</:D>
Then again, if you ever tasted a “bratwurst” in Japan... smelling of fish products, ten miles against the wind... :D
Then agan, nowadays, for some type of fish that is hunted, there is only 0.01% (more realistically 1%) of that type in the nets. So what do they do? Throw the rest overboard again. With most of it already dead.
So while I agree with your basic argument, you — perhaps because you never were on a fishing boat — left out this crucial detail. :)
You know what’s really weird?
That people think it’s weird to eat raw things. Instead of thinking how weird it is, to eat things that were so much changed due to cooking (destructive heating), fermentation (bacteria), conservation (e.g. white flour products) and extraction (pure sugar/salt) etc, that it barely resembles the original anymore.
I mean we eat the “result” (“poo”) of what happens to milk from other species when digested by some forms of bacteria. (cheese) Or carbohydrate-containing stuff that is purified so much that it lacks all the vitamins required to actually digest it without getting sick (with a delay). (high-on-sugar products) :D
And we think raw meat is strange??
By the way: What else is a good steak, if not at least half-raw? Does not make it any worse, does it? :)
Uuum, it gets frozen on the ship, and stays frozen in the less than a day that it takes to get to where you buy it. I think it’s even illegal to sell it otherwise, no? At least that is what I heard.
I don’t think that distance is much of a problem for frozen goods. And freezing is the most healthy form (and the only one I accept) of conservation anyway. (If I do other forms [e.g. fermentation, cooking], it’s for the taste, never solely for the conservation.)
A weird thing about your comment is, that you talk like eating out would be the default. I dunno, but I only eat out when I don’t have the choice of eating at home. Then again, I’m a better at cooking than any restaurant that I can afford anyway. ^^
Let’s go back to burgers, fries, cola and sweets then... ^^ ;)
Just as bad, but at least it tastes great!
I have long given up the expectation that “everything, where I don’t know otherwise, is healthy”. It just comes down to if it’s worth it.
If I live only 30 years, but have lived more than some “healthy” (well, only in his dreams, if he’s not literally planting it himself and eating it all-raw) 100 year old, it was damn worth it! ^^
Luckily, I have found that nowadays, I get nauseous and squirrely from sweets and saturated fats. Then 15 minutes later, I’m hungry as hell again. So to me, those things actually have worse memories associated with them. And since I’m a good cook and know that a big part of the secret of great taste is freshness... which happens to also be a big part of the secret of what is healthy food... I have no trouble making all stuff taste really great. :)
Except for sushi. I hate sushi with a passion. ^^
Yeah well... Sorry to spoil it, but that only works for non-physicists. Everybody with half a brain knows that it would grow exponentially, and not first pop to a size, and then slow down to steady growing, then suddenly jump to a bigger size just when the first camera dies, to then slow down to a faster, but still steady pace. ^^
In reality, it would be more like: 2nd second: LHC, 3rd second: city. 4th second: planet.
The problem of course being, that when it gets slower and slower, the closer you get to the starting time, it ends in infinity, which is exactly why nothing would happen.
P.S.: *sings* Yes yes yes, I pulled this all out of my ass. But I’m close enough to reality, and it’s really fun, hee heee... ;)
The thing is, that is all stems from a criminal action that is somehow “right” because it is the law-makers who do it:
Forbidding people, to do what they want, with their own bodies!
Everybody can do to himself whatever he wants. Drugs, dumb shit, suicide. It’s YOUR body! You own it. All alone. Nobody but you has any right to tell you what to do or not to do with your own body. If he does, he is the criminal. Period.
I don’t think anybody ever disagrees with that one, when it’s about his own body.
But there are some, who disagree, when it’s about the bodies of others. Because they like to control them, and have power over them.
And that is the crime. That’s why I said “period”.
I think ketchup is tomato jam, and just as anything cooked with a high sugar content, is utter trash, and no food at all. :)
But I would never tell you what to think of it, or if you should eat it. I can only tell you my opinion, and how I came up with it.
Who knows, some people like to destroy themselves, others think that it’s better to live 30 years of intense no-limits fun, than 100 years of boredom and sadness... everyone is different. And I do my share of bad things too, so who am I to criticize you anyway?
I, for one, will continue to fight for my freedom. (But with much more advanced techniques than primitive guerilla tactics or useless protests. I will walk the way of full scale social engineering (hacking human( brain)s) on those who try to dominate us, until I dominate them and they haven’t even realized it, still thinking they dominate me... if I have to... Everything else is just n00b-script-kiddie-stuff. ^^ “In $myWorld, computer hacks YOU. ^^)
Uuuum no. One could write your first sentence like this, and it would still be true:
Is this of any surprise that the people don’t really care where their materials come from as long as they are getting what they want at a price they want?
Companies are that way, because people are that way.
I think nearly everybody already knows exactly, that nearly everything he buys, be it clothing, toys or food, is made that cheap through exploitation. Everybody knows this deep down. All the time.
But we repress it, to justify our nice lives. (Remember that there is a evolutionary reason why we learned to act that way.)
Public exposure won’t change this. We will simply ignore it and invent excuses. That is how repression works. And it’s just as smart as you are. Because it is you.
Repression is a hard thing to come by. Normally it closes down even more, when under pressure. (It just fights back harder.) ;)
It’s like forcing someone to love you... That won’t ever work. ^^ (There, I spoiled it for you, Fritzl! ^^)
So you do the opposite, to make it open up. Like with those finger-traps, that hold firmer if you pull harder. (Sorry. Car analogies are out today.
I think you get the idea of what to do...
But they would. If there were a modern version of the 70s VW hippy bus with the Apple logo on it. ^^ ;)
Maybe with some hipster music playing on a crappy but good-looking 7.1 car sound system.
Now imagine all that inside your body, and you know how a smoker looks on the inside.
The weirdest thing ever are those retards, who smoke outside in their own home... because they don’t want it to become like that.
But their freakin’ own body? Nooo, why would that be a problem?
It’s repression at its finest. One can’t get dumber in terms of double standards, than this. ^^
What about smoking (hot) pussies with computers? ^^
Or in other words: Nature does not give you a guarantee on your body if you smoke, for that very reason. ^^
You must be new here... ^^
Now tell me you did not have physical withdrawal symptoms...
Be thankful, that you had the psychological strength, to withstand them anyway.
Many people don’t. And that is why it’s not a mind-only thing.
You should know, that industrial cigarette tobacco, with its 600+ additives, has a higher addictiveness than heroine. At least that did the studies say that a friend of mine showed me. And he, as a affected one, agrees.
According to an heroin addict I knew, and some studies, the 600+ additives in industrial cigarette tobacco make it in fact more addictive than heroin. Not necessarily more destructive. But more addictive. (You know, just like a successful virus/bacterium/parasite does not destroy its host.)
The only thing that he ever tried, that was worse, were clinical anti-depressants. Where you wake up in the morning and neither remember who, nor where you are.
Stupid primitive psychology an physiology ignoring slogans like this are the reason why people still don’t do actual research on the subject and reasons, when they want to cure themselves.
Firs of all, tobacco is only a small part of the problem, as cigarettes nowadays contain 600+ partially highly addictive and toxic additive substances. Tobacco without those is not nearly as bad.
Second, this is a chemical change in your body. I want to see the willpower that fixes that physiological change...
Go ahead... It’s like “ownin” your broken leg, to walk again.
So you need to fix that, by influencing your body to changes in the opposite direction
For the psychological effect, I recommend reading up on what an psychological addiction really is: The substitution of the drug for something that you really miss, so you can repress that, because it is “too horrible” for your more primitive emotional parts of the brain.
And that on’s easy to solve: Find the original thing that you miss, and get it. Loads of it!
Of course in practice, that is often very hard or impossible. But still, even facing that fact of what it is that you miss, realizing how bad and painful that was, and then re-training your brain to learn that the wrong association, that all of life is that painful, is wrong. By re-connecting your associations with reality again, now that you are able to know reality again. (Which is impossible as long as the repression is still active.)
(I how that now you see, how primitive your comment was, compared to this.)
But OK, most of the time, it’s just a physiological addiction, and you have to solve that first anyway.
P.S.: Please, I hope you don’t feel insulted by me calling you “primitive”. Since I was just as, if not even more primitive that that, some years ago. And I bet if you get behind it and learn up on that stuff, you can easily call me primitive again in some years. :)
Yeah, but you did still not even lose one thought about why you are addicted, and what addiction is. (Marijuana does not have to come with an addiction. In fact it’s the only ‘drug’, except maybe from alcohol, where I saw people just stop for more than half a year, after e.g. a week of intense usage.)
An addiction is a substitutional behavior for something that you really miss. But instead of getting that, you are satisfied with the substitution. (Of course, often the substitution loses its effect over time.)
So maybe I’ll check for what you might miss, but have completely repressed.
(If you’re a geek, that might be a girlfriend. As it very often is the love of someone [e.g. parents].)
Does’t mean you have to stop smoking pot after that. Just that your life could be so much happier. :)
I’m not saying you’re wrong. :)
I just wonder how you think you that insulting someone and offering nothing else than ad-hominem style non-arguments will convince us or especially him so say that you’re right? ^^
Especially since I know that some good arguments made you take that point of view in the first place. So you can definitely do much better.
Protip: To change someone’s opinion, there is no way around first agreeing with him. And being friendly enough that he listens to you. Even if he is wrong and an ass. Or your 13 year old son. No not even. Especially in those cases! :) :)
Disclaimer: Yep, I need to get better at this too.
Funny note: You used “projection”. Because your ignorance was the reason you called him ignorant. (Okay, I know, now I definitely blew it. So I’ll go now.