I like your idea, except for the fact that you run a high risk of getting subpoenaed for something you didn't do. And you will probably not have such a good alibi. While the dust clears, your life might be a pretty ugly turmoil.
Every time you share on a P2P network, RIAA kills a kitten. Please think of the kittens.
If you really want to give emusic a bad name, stop linking to that exchange. They sound perfectly reasonable, and you sound like a crusading, bitchy wimp. Not trolling. Mods, read the linked conversation before modding me down.
Yeah. Let's get back to basics and imagine a Beowulf cluster of testicles... No! I mean fuel cells! Fuel cells! Damn, I think I have efectively castrated myself...
As opposed to playing cowboys and indians in the bush with other kids? I don't buy it. Oh, wait, kids no longer play that. Now they play cowboys and native americans, and the natives simply runs the casinos...
Do you want to know what's sad? That I actually previewed that one sentence, and still didn't see the mistake... And what's really funny is the fact that, nonsensical as it turned out, it got modded Funny... I guess Slashdot actually is chaos incarnated...:)
You were to write, "Known rabid litigator and alleged goat felcher Darl Mcbride says...... On the other hand smelly bearded hippy Richard Stallman says....
You know, one of my secret fantasies is to make enough money to retire, come to work the day before I quit and write exactly like that. I'm even sure I can get it published. And, hopefully, be away when all hell breaks loose.:) Believe it or not, a lot of us are also fed up with the news media. In my defense, TV is the worst. On the other hand, nations have the media they deserve. I hate Jackass, "reality" shows and talk shows... and yet, that's what sells. The National Enquirer will keep outselling the Wall Street Journal for the time being. Hell, I'm ranting again. Thanks for accepting my olive branch, and again apologies for losing it so badly (I reread my response, and I really have no excuse). On the other hand, this wouldn't be Slashdot without the ranting and flaming, right? Notice I spared you the Beowulf cluster and Soviet Russia "jokes"...;)
Now we're talking... I'll abandon the "original/reply" format, for the sake of space, specially since I can see more clearly where is it that we disagree, and it's not that much. Investigative reporting is one thing. It is hard, and it is, deservedly, the most prestigious kind of reporting. I agree with you that this is the best service a reporter can provide to the public. Then we have fact reporting. Say I'm sent by my PHB (yes, reporters have them too) to cover "this McBrides press conference". I go there, tape his comments and, hopefully, ask some hard-hitting questions. After going back to the newspaper, if I am a good reporter, I should contact the FSF, RMS, ESR, Red Hat or IBM and ask for their positions. Then, in my story, I'm supposed to represent Darl's position to the best of my abilities, and the counterpart also to the best of my abilities. As a fact reporter, I'm not supposed to have an opinion, and I'm certainly not supposed to wrote it in an article. Suppose a reporter does the above, but Darl is more convincing than RMS (and, to a lot of people, he is). Should he write a story stating SCO's claims, followed by "on the other hand, dirty bearded hippy Richard Stallman says..."?. Of course not. Doing that would deservedly get him in hot water with the open source people, altough SCO would certainly love it. On the other hand, an open source sympathizer (as myself) doing the opposite, would be slammed by SCO and friends. The thing is, I'm supposed to report both sides of the story, and let YOU decide what you believe. That's it. This particular case is not well suited to investigative reporting. Why? Because, contrary to what they want you to believe, reporters are usually not experts at anything. I couldn't see the SCO code and tell you if their claims are true or not. So, what do I do? I go to an expert. And report what he tells me. No opinion. On top of all that, remember most reporters are overworked and overstressed. The Hollywood reporter who gets weeks and weeks to chase a story is as mythical as the cop who has weeks to crack a case. I agree with you, in a perfect world, a reporter should separate the truth from the lies. In the real world, we often don't have the time or the capacity. Plus, the line between truth and lie is sometimes blurred, and sometimes it's not even there. So, we present the facts and let you form your opinion. Apologies for the "ad hominem"s. But then again, you started it;) Hopefully you'll forgive my harsh tone in the previous post. But I'm proud of my work, and you were equally harsh and personal in your attacks. Peace?
McBride proudly dumped two phone-book-sized binders of press clippings on the stage during his SCO Forum keynote on Monday as proof that his company had become more relevant in the high technology industry. SCO has issued 46 press releases since filing suit against IBM on March 7. Last year it issued only 29 press releases between March and August.
When did you start to see Enron in the press? Right. On a simpler note...
IBM spokeswoman Trink Guarino...
This guy's (I hope it's a guy) name keeps cracking me up too....
That shows you science is not always the best way. 20 years ago, Starsky would just have shown the skull to Huggy Bear. Chances are, he'd recognize some scar and point them to the bar where the dude used to hang out with someone who hated his guts.
I rather prefer the "I was drunk when I installed it, so the contract is not binding" approach. Then there's the always popular "Here's a video of a 5 year old clicking I Agree", but you really need a child around to do that properly. I hear that's not common for slashdotters.
The fact that you can even tell such a blatant lie with a straight face demonstrates the total absence of integrity in the journalistic community. The fact that you can make such a blatant, hateful generalization demonstrates your utter lack of brains. So you claim I said a lie, and that demonstrates that all the journalistic community is crooked? Hello?
Nixon said he wasdn't a crook. Your assertion is that that should have been printed as if it were gospel.
No, my assertion is that it should have been reported as "Nixon claims he is not a crook". As, in fact, it was.
That is so amazingly ignorant and idiotic I want to scream and throttle you..
You know, comments like that take all the fun out of mocking you. It's just too easy.
What you are supposed to be doing is *investigating*. Reporting news does not mean "reporting what other people say or do". It means listening to what people say, assuming that they are a lying sack of shit and finding out what the truth is.
Wow. After 12 years of experience, I learn that I have to assume everyone is a lying piece of shit. That will do for some nice editorials, bub, but is not fact reporting.
If you have demonstrated that they are telling the truth then you report that. If you have demonstrated that they are full of crap than you report that.
And if you have no way of demonstrating either, I assume, you report nothing? Point in case: Neteri me nor anyone had a chance to see SCOs code. So, what am I supposed to do? Pull a "Darl is a lying sack of shit" piece out of my ass to please you?
That and that alone is the reason that a so called free press is even allowed to exist.
Wrong. A free press is not "allowed" to exist. The government is not allowed to supress it. A fine point, but an important one.
If you honestly believe that that is your job, then for the love of anything decent, quit now since you have no interest in doing your job. The role of the press is a sacred one to a free society and you are not living up to your responsibility.
Let me get this straight. You don't agree with the way I see my job, so I should quit my career, because obviously you know so much better than me what it means to be a journalist? Listen, you little twit, when you've been on the business end of a loaded gun and being ordered to surrender your camera, or beaten up by cops when covering a protest, or lived several days under a bridge among homeless people to report a story, then you can tell me how to do my job. Ass.
The difference is that many of the things they are saying are complete crap and it is your fucking job to figure that out and report it.
I think you have confused me with your brain. That's its job. That is, if you have one.
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I like your idea, except for the fact that you run a high risk of getting subpoenaed for something you didn't do. And you will probably not have such a good alibi. While the dust clears, your life might be a pretty ugly turmoil.
Every time you share on a P2P network, RIAA kills a kitten.
Please think of the kittens.
Oh, but I do.
I hate kittens.
If you really want to give emusic a bad name, stop linking to that exchange. They sound perfectly reasonable, and you sound like a crusading, bitchy wimp.
Not trolling. Mods, read the linked conversation before modding me down.
In other words, she may have high INT, but low WIS.
That wouldn't be Fair and Balanced!
Of course, you realize you are about to be sued by Fox for copyright infringement...
And if you're a 12 years old, that would be delicious irony...
wow... flashbak to my newsnet days... was anyone else subscribed to alt.barney.die.die.die?
The hypocracy runs deeper than you think.
Yeah, I hear you. ever since they gave those pesky hypos the right to vote, the country has been going...
What? Medication time. Have to go.
"Hey, have you looked at that penguin? I mean, really looked at that penguin?"
Make killing illegal, and onlu criminals will kill.
So?
Really, dude, the gun lobby needs new arguments.
Disclaimer: I'm not necesarily pro or anti-guns. But I'm tired of that silly catchphrase that is not smart, nor deep, nor proves anything.
feel free to send me that invoice, by the way, i'm out of toilet paper :) ....
Dude... you do realize it would take days or weeks to arrive, don't you?
I'd sure hate to be your left hand...
Yeah. Let's get back to basics and imagine a Beowulf cluster of testicles... No! I mean fuel cells! Fuel cells!
Damn, I think I have efectively castrated myself...
Ah, but have you ever made out while playing a video game?
s/sitcons/Red Hat
s/soap operas/SuSE
There you have your perfect Slashdot metaphor, and your point still applies.
You'll be getting my consulting invoice shortly
As opposed to playing cowboys and indians in the bush with other kids? I don't buy it.
Oh, wait, kids no longer play that. Now they play cowboys and native americans, and the natives simply runs the casinos...
I think he was trying (and failing) to make a clever Fark reference...
Do you want to know what's sad? That I actually previewed that one sentence, and still didn't see the mistake... :)
And what's really funny is the fact that, nonsensical as it turned out, it got modded Funny...
I guess Slashdot actually is chaos incarnated...
Somehow, "my software crashed" lacks that ominous feel that "my software crashed" has...
Well, we're not having sex either... I reckon we're one of them mysteries of nature...
Wrong. That would mean that geeks would have bred those days.
Geeks don't breed.
You were to write, "Known rabid litigator and alleged goat felcher Darl Mcbride says...... On the other hand smelly bearded hippy Richard Stallman says....
:) ;)
You know, one of my secret fantasies is to make enough money to retire, come to work the day before I quit and write exactly like that. I'm even sure I can get it published. And, hopefully, be away when all hell breaks loose.
Believe it or not, a lot of us are also fed up with the news media. In my defense, TV is the worst.
On the other hand, nations have the media they deserve. I hate Jackass, "reality" shows and talk shows... and yet, that's what sells. The National Enquirer will keep outselling the Wall Street Journal for the time being.
Hell, I'm ranting again. Thanks for accepting my olive branch, and again apologies for losing it so badly (I reread my response, and I really have no excuse).
On the other hand, this wouldn't be Slashdot without the ranting and flaming, right? Notice I spared you the Beowulf cluster and Soviet Russia "jokes"...
Now we're talking... ;) Hopefully you'll forgive my harsh tone in the previous post. But I'm proud of my work, and you were equally harsh and personal in your attacks.
I'll abandon the "original/reply" format, for the sake of space, specially since I can see more clearly where is it that we disagree, and it's not that much.
Investigative reporting is one thing. It is hard, and it is, deservedly, the most prestigious kind of reporting. I agree with you that this is the best service a reporter can provide to the public.
Then we have fact reporting. Say I'm sent by my PHB (yes, reporters have them too) to cover "this McBrides press conference". I go there, tape his comments and, hopefully, ask some hard-hitting questions. After going back to the newspaper, if I am a good reporter, I should contact the FSF, RMS, ESR, Red Hat or IBM and ask for their positions.
Then, in my story, I'm supposed to represent Darl's position to the best of my abilities, and the counterpart also to the best of my abilities.
As a fact reporter, I'm not supposed to have an opinion, and I'm certainly not supposed to wrote it in an article.
Suppose a reporter does the above, but Darl is more convincing than RMS (and, to a lot of people, he is). Should he write a story stating SCO's claims, followed by "on the other hand, dirty bearded hippy Richard Stallman says..."?. Of course not. Doing that would deservedly get him in hot water with the open source people, altough SCO would certainly love it.
On the other hand, an open source sympathizer (as myself) doing the opposite, would be slammed by SCO and friends.
The thing is, I'm supposed to report both sides of the story, and let YOU decide what you believe. That's it.
This particular case is not well suited to investigative reporting. Why? Because, contrary to what they want you to believe, reporters are usually not experts at anything. I couldn't see the SCO code and tell you if their claims are true or not. So, what do I do? I go to an expert. And report what he tells me. No opinion.
On top of all that, remember most reporters are overworked and overstressed. The Hollywood reporter who gets weeks and weeks to chase a story is as mythical as the cop who has weeks to crack a case.
I agree with you, in a perfect world, a reporter should separate the truth from the lies. In the real world, we often don't have the time or the capacity. Plus, the line between truth and lie is sometimes blurred, and sometimes it's not even there. So, we present the facts and let you form your opinion.
Apologies for the "ad hominem"s. But then again, you started it
Peace?
This just cracks me up:
McBride proudly dumped two phone-book-sized binders of press clippings on the stage during his SCO Forum keynote on Monday as proof that his company had become more relevant in the high technology industry. SCO has issued 46 press releases since filing suit against IBM on March 7. Last year it issued only 29 press releases between March and August.
When did you start to see Enron in the press? Right.
On a simpler note...
IBM spokeswoman Trink Guarino...
This guy's (I hope it's a guy) name keeps cracking me up too....
That shows you science is not always the best way.
20 years ago, Starsky would just have shown the skull to Huggy Bear. Chances are, he'd recognize some scar and point them to the bar where the dude used to hang out with someone who hated his guts.
I rather prefer the "I was drunk when I installed it, so the contract is not binding" approach.
Then there's the always popular "Here's a video of a 5 year old clicking I Agree", but you really need a child around to do that properly. I hear that's not common for slashdotters.
To feed the troll or not to... what the hell.
The fact that you can even tell such a blatant lie with a straight face demonstrates the total absence of integrity in the journalistic community.
The fact that you can make such a blatant, hateful generalization demonstrates your utter lack of brains. So you claim I said a lie, and that demonstrates that all the journalistic community is crooked? Hello?
Nixon said he wasdn't a crook.
Your assertion is that that should have been printed as if it were gospel.
No, my assertion is that it should have been reported as "Nixon claims he is not a crook". As, in fact, it was.
That is so amazingly ignorant and idiotic I want to scream and throttle you..
You know, comments like that take all the fun out of mocking you. It's just too easy.
What you are supposed to be doing is *investigating*.
Reporting news does not mean "reporting what other people say or do".
It means listening to what people say, assuming that they are a lying sack of shit and finding out what the truth is.
Wow. After 12 years of experience, I learn that I have to assume everyone is a lying piece of shit. That will do for some nice editorials, bub, but is not fact reporting.
If you have demonstrated that they are telling the truth then you report that.
If you have demonstrated that they are full of crap than you report that.
And if you have no way of demonstrating either, I assume, you report nothing? Point in case: Neteri me nor anyone had a chance to see SCOs code. So, what am I supposed to do? Pull a "Darl is a lying sack of shit" piece out of my ass to please you?
That and that alone is the reason that a so called free press is even allowed to exist.
Wrong. A free press is not "allowed" to exist. The government is not allowed to supress it. A fine point, but an important one.
If you honestly believe that that is your job, then for the love of anything decent, quit now since you have no interest in doing your job.
The role of the press is a sacred one to a free society and you are not living up to your responsibility.
Let me get this straight. You don't agree with the way I see my job, so I should quit my career, because obviously you know so much better than me what it means to be a journalist?
Listen, you little twit, when you've been on the business end of a loaded gun and being ordered to surrender your camera, or beaten up by cops when covering a protest, or lived several days under a bridge among homeless people to report a story, then you can tell me how to do my job. Ass.
The difference is that many of the things they are saying are complete crap and it is your fucking job to figure that out and report it.
I think you have confused me with your brain. That's its job. That is, if you have one.
I run a SuSE server and an XP box. Both have been up the same length of time without a crash.
So, how is weather in New York these days?