Alternatively you can block any port on a Windows 2000 LAN adapter by enabling TCP/IP Filtering under the TCP/IP properties for that adapter. The way it works is you enable it which will block everything, then you must enable the services you would like to use.
This way you got 800 quid's worth of stolen electronics, the thief wrote off some capital investment and a couple of thousand/.'ers got some pre-pubescent excitement. Wahooo.
...you forgot to mention that if the cops had the area under surveillance waiting to see who comes to download the data, or do so posthumously using street surveillance cameras (that are everywhere in the UK and keep footage for around a month usually) then guess who;s door they are going to be knocking on...
Windows from GUI:
Click Start->Windows Update
Be asked to trust content from microsoft. Click ok. Click scan my computer for updates. Wait... Choose what updates you want. Select all, start the process.
Process stops, you must install so and so package seperately. Click ok. Download package. Install package. Reboot. Wash rinse repeat (3 or 4 times, depending on how long it's been since your last windows update). If you update all the time, that's all those time's you've had to reset, if you update once a year you have to reset at least 2 or 3 times.
Actually for securty patches its Control Panel -> Automatic updates -> enable. That's it.
Windows from command line:
HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah right...
HAHAHAHAHAwhy the %$@ would you need to? Average home user doesnt give a shit about CMD and wants things that are EASY to use. Point and click.
If you are running servers, then you set it with a system policy. Box patches itself whenever you want it to as frequently as you like. If you want anything more complicated then yes, you can install any patch from the command line, although you really need to ask yourself why this is needed. In the enterprise, group policy - Administrative Templates, Windows Update - enable. You just pached the entire network if you want or control it by organisational unit or group.
Yeah - MUCH easier than Linux. Not.
Bullshit. Windows IS easier. If nothing else there is one standard way to update and none of this "if you have apt-get" bollocks. On ANY supported Windows box, go to Windowsupdate and you can patch it.
And don't forget, in linux apt-get upgrade, upgrades ALL of your software that needs to be upgraded (that was installed with packages, which is most of the software on my computers anyway.) When was the last time Windows Update upgraded Photoshop to version 7.0?
When was the last time Linux updated Photoshop 7? When was the last time you ran Photoshop on Linux? Didn't think so.
And can I just run Windows Update on Windows 95 and upgrade to XP? No? Didn't think so.
It's commercial software, you get it on CDROM. You put in CD and allow it to upgrade or install it across the network. Duh.
Your survey is skewed because you're completely clueless about linux. It was funny, yet somehow sad, to read of your slapstick antics just now.
With any supported redhat, clicking on up2date does the trick - without the paid rhn though, you will not be able to get the same service - but guess what, you use apt or yum and get all the same updates. once apt is installed, just say "apt-get install synaptic", and from then on, you can point and click you way through package installs from the various software repositories available.
Firstly the original poster claimed that all major distros had an easier patch system than Windows. I disagreed and posted my personal experience. This is reinforced by you tellimg me that I now have to PAY to get a reliable easy to use patch system (Windows updates always have been free). Secondly are you now suggesting that the fact people have to work out how to patch the box is easier than Windows Update and automatic updates?
I disagree. Ease of use is the point of this discussion, not that it can be made to work with a lot of pissing around.
ompare that to window. where you have to go on windows update, check which updates you want (hey watch out for those mutually exclusive thingies!),download, install, reboot and do it again a few times for the ones that couldnt be installed at the same time.
Security patches come in the automatic updates - once it's turned on the box patches itself. This can be enabled on an Active Directory domain too with a few mouse clicks meaning you can patch the entire network very very easily.
..not that this means you don't have to patch your box. But all major distros these days make that really painless. Or at least a lot less painful than Windows.
I disagree with that from personal experience. On Windows - Control Panel, automatic updates - enable. That's it.
Fedora from GUI: Run up2date Be told you are not registered. Click ok. Choose what updates you want. Select all, start the process. Process freezes either before it starts, during, or near the end, OR you are told a package has been tampered with (when really it's just corrupt). Solution: patch one package at a time (which is a $@ing PAIN in the arse). I have Fedora boxen unpatched simply because the patch system is fsck'd.
Fedora from command line: [root@dredd root]# up2date
Your GPG keyring does not contain the Red Hat, Inc. public key.
Without it, you will be unable to verify that packages Update Agent downloads
are securely signed by Red Hat.
Your Update Agent options specify that you want to use GPG.
To install the key, run the following as root:
rpm --import/usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY
[root@dredd root]# rpm --import/usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY
[root@dredd root]#
[root@dredd root]# up2date
Your GPG keyring does not contain the Red Hat, Inc. public key.
Without it, you will be unable to verify that packages Update Agent downloads
are securely signed by Red Hat.
Your Update Agent options specify that you want to use GPG.
You see, what y'all have to understand is, it's not politics, it's just that scientists hate bad science. When they see it, they just can't help themselves, they have to destroy it. And by destroy I don't mean bury or ignore it, I mean publicly tearing that faulty logic/research to pieces and sending the proponent of it packing with tears of shame in his/her eyes. They absolutely will not give up until the fool either admits s/he was wrong, proves they are right, or is so thoroughly discredited they can't even get anyone to listen anymore.
This reminds me of when you make a typo when in the middle of an argument on/.
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This will be an excellent way to get aliens to visit us. Once they hear we have penis enlargement pills, breast enlargement pills, and all natural herbal viagra alternatives, they'll be pouring in.
About 5 professors in my department (History) out of 25 or so have been laid off, or sent on research sabbatical so that they don't have to be paid. We've fired over 1/2 of the maintenance staff, and people on campus no longer have trash cans in their dorm hallways - they have to take their trash outside to a dumpster. The snow trucks in Blacksburg have far less salt than they had last year to clear the roads (I only think of this as I sit here at Netmar and watch today's 3 inches of snow fall). I now this isn't grave hardship, but seriously, we've cut about everything we can.
Blimey! Suddenly I don't feel so hard done to giving up beer for a few weeks to afford a dual G5!
We humans think we are so clever don't we? We've had (allegedly) men on the moon, and now we are remotely exploring Mars, but really there is something more sinister going on right under our noses.
You see, in the future, the question may be asked "what race of beings first made it to Mars?" and the answer? Machines.
You know the way dolphins triain people to feed them fish so they don't have to bother with all that pesky hunting? Well it looks to me suspiciously like the machines may be planning to colonize Mars first by tricking us into financing their operations. They already have made it there in the past, and in fact right now they have two mobile individuals on the surface that are imagining god knows what fate for human kind. On earth, they have managed to get a model T800 Terminator into a strong political position, which could end up making President.
Ultimately, ironically, the epitaph of the human race may be "Hasta la vista, baby."
"Imagine your favorite first-person shooter, role-playing game, or action adventure game. Now imagine that game broken up into one- to two-hour sequences. Now imagine that the first part was free and subsequent parts were delivered to you automatically for five bucks a pop, each month. Would you take the bait?"
After colleagues at the San Diego Supercomputing Center informed Shimomura that someone had stolen hundreds of software programs and files from his work station,
Yeah - he sounds like a REAL expert - having to be told that his workstation had been compromised...? Not to mention left vulnerable in the first place.
The men would have a local venomous snake bite their penises, and after six months of mind-altering agony, their shlongs had become very long. Now, what I want to know is how this happened (and what type of snake was used)?
A type that was human flesh coloured that didn't let go?
Well I propose that doing stupid surveys that say anything is harmful to you is harmful to you.
In fact, I propose if more (attractive) women found intelligent men attractive rather than sport watching morons, there would be less anti-social net use.
Yes mobile TVs as they cannot be considered part of a property.
Your home license would cover you for a portable battery TV, but if you start using it say as a student in a dorm, and your parents use their TV at home, you are out of license.
I must correct my parent post - the license covers the use of any and all equipment capable of receiving TV signals. It is not illegal to merely own TV receiving equipment, only to use it to receive TV programme services that originate from within the UK.
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Alternatively you can block any port on a Windows 2000 LAN adapter by enabling TCP/IP Filtering under the TCP/IP properties for that adapter. The way it works is you enable it which will block everything, then you must enable the services you would like to use.
I believe another trick when dealing with this issue (called striction I think?) was to smack them with a hammer bang on the spindle.
Never tried it personally however I can imagine it would be fun.
This way you got 800 quid's worth of stolen electronics, the thief wrote off some capital investment and a couple of thousand /.'ers got some pre-pubescent excitement. Wahooo.
...you forgot to mention that if the cops had the area under surveillance waiting to see who comes to download the data, or do so posthumously using street surveillance cameras (that are everywhere in the UK and keep footage for around a month usually) then guess who;s door they are going to be knocking on...
I'll see your Powerbook and raise you 200Mhz.
Thanks for those - they look really useful.
Windows from GUI: Click Start->Windows Update Be asked to trust content from microsoft. Click ok. Click scan my computer for updates. Wait... Choose what updates you want. Select all, start the process. Process stops, you must install so and so package seperately. Click ok. Download package. Install package. Reboot. Wash rinse repeat (3 or 4 times, depending on how long it's been since your last windows update). If you update all the time, that's all those time's you've had to reset, if you update once a year you have to reset at least 2 or 3 times.
Actually for securty patches its Control Panel -> Automatic updates -> enable. That's it.
Windows from command line:
HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah right...
HAHAHAHAHAwhy the %$@ would you need to? Average home user doesnt give a shit about CMD and wants things that are EASY to use. Point and click.
If you are running servers, then you set it with a system policy. Box patches itself whenever you want it to as frequently as you like. If you want anything more complicated then yes, you can install any patch from the command line, although you really need to ask yourself why this is needed. In the enterprise, group policy - Administrative Templates, Windows Update - enable. You just pached the entire network if you want or control it by organisational unit or group.
Yeah - MUCH easier than Linux. Not.
Bullshit. Windows IS easier. If nothing else there is one standard way to update and none of this "if you have apt-get" bollocks. On ANY supported Windows box, go to Windowsupdate and you can patch it.
And don't forget, in linux apt-get upgrade, upgrades ALL of your software that needs to be upgraded (that was installed with packages, which is most of the software on my computers anyway.) When was the last time Windows Update upgraded Photoshop to version 7.0?
When was the last time Linux updated Photoshop 7? When was the last time you ran Photoshop on Linux? Didn't think so.
And can I just run Windows Update on Windows 95 and upgrade to XP? No? Didn't think so.
It's commercial software, you get it on CDROM. You put in CD and allow it to upgrade or install it across the network. Duh.
Your survey is skewed because you're completely clueless about linux. It was funny, yet somehow sad, to read of your slapstick antics just now.
With any supported redhat, clicking on up2date does the trick - without the paid rhn though, you will not be able to get the same service - but guess what, you use apt or yum and get all the same updates. once apt is installed, just say "apt-get install synaptic", and from then on, you can point and click you way through package installs from the various software repositories available.
Firstly the original poster claimed that all major distros had an easier patch system than Windows. I disagreed and posted my personal experience. This is reinforced by you tellimg me that I now have to PAY to get a reliable easy to use patch system (Windows updates always have been free). Secondly are you now suggesting that the fact people have to work out how to patch the box is easier than Windows Update and automatic updates?
I disagree. Ease of use is the point of this discussion, not that it can be made to work with a lot of pissing around.
ompare that to window. where you have to go on windows update, check which updates you want (hey watch out for those mutually exclusive thingies!),download, install, reboot and do it again a few times for the ones that couldnt be installed at the same time.
Security patches come in the automatic updates - once it's turned on the box patches itself. This can be enabled on an Active Directory domain too with a few mouse clicks meaning you can patch the entire network very very easily.
..not that this means you don't have to patch your box. But all major distros these days make that really painless. Or at least a lot less painful than Windows.
/usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY
/usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY
/usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY
I disagree with that from personal experience. On Windows - Control Panel, automatic updates - enable. That's it.
Fedora from GUI:
Run up2date
Be told you are not registered. Click ok.
Choose what updates you want. Select all, start the process.
Process freezes either before it starts, during, or near the end, OR you are told a package has been tampered with (when really it's just corrupt). Solution: patch one package at a time (which is a $@ing PAIN in the arse). I have Fedora boxen unpatched simply because the patch system is fsck'd.
Fedora from command line:
[root@dredd root]# up2date
Your GPG keyring does not contain the Red Hat, Inc. public key. Without it, you will be unable to verify that packages Update Agent downloads are securely signed by Red Hat.
Your Update Agent options specify that you want to use GPG.
To install the key, run the following as root:
rpm --import
[root@dredd root]# rpm --import
[root@dredd root]#
[root@dredd root]# up2date
Your GPG keyring does not contain the Red Hat, Inc. public key. Without it, you will be unable to verify that packages Update Agent downloads are securely signed by Red Hat.
Your Update Agent options specify that you want to use GPG.
To install the key, run the following as root:
rpm --import
[root@dredd root]#
Yeah - MUCH easier than Windows. Not.
Google H4xx0r is quite amusing.
You see, what y'all have to understand is, it's not politics, it's just that scientists hate bad science. When they see it, they just can't help themselves, they have to destroy it. And by destroy I don't mean bury or ignore it, I mean publicly tearing that faulty logic/research to pieces and sending the proponent of it packing with tears of shame in his/her eyes. They absolutely will not give up until the fool either admits s/he was wrong, proves they are right, or is so thoroughly discredited they can't even get anyone to listen anymore.
/.
This reminds me of when you make a typo when in the middle of an argument on
Yes, it's a stupid name, however what I think many people here are overlooking is this statement from Michael Robertson:
"Any action from Microsoft to block Lin---s will show their true intentions are not to protect their trademark, but to eliminate competition and maintain their monopoly."
Basically he's bear baiting.
This will be an excellent way to get aliens to visit us. Once they hear we have penis enlargement pills, breast enlargement pills, and all natural herbal viagra alternatives, they'll be pouring in.
Especially if they like sausages.
Any game you can play on the Dell will work on the Mac too, and almost as well.
You mean like Photoshop?
About 5 professors in my department (History) out of 25 or so have been laid off, or sent on research sabbatical so that they don't have to be paid. We've fired over 1/2 of the maintenance staff, and people on campus no longer have trash cans in their dorm hallways - they have to take their trash outside to a dumpster. The snow trucks in Blacksburg have far less salt than they had last year to clear the roads (I only think of this as I sit here at Netmar and watch today's 3 inches of snow fall). I now this isn't grave hardship, but seriously, we've cut about everything we can.
Blimey! Suddenly I don't feel so hard done to giving up beer for a few weeks to afford a dual G5!
We humans think we are so clever don't we? We've had (allegedly) men on the moon, and now we are remotely exploring Mars, but really there is something more sinister going on right under our noses.
You see, in the future, the question may be asked "what race of beings first made it to Mars?" and the answer? Machines.
You know the way dolphins triain people to feed them fish so they don't have to bother with all that pesky hunting? Well it looks to me suspiciously like the machines may be planning to colonize Mars first by tricking us into financing their operations. They already have made it there in the past, and in fact right now they have two mobile individuals on the surface that are imagining god knows what fate for human kind. On earth, they have managed to get a model T800 Terminator into a strong political position, which could end up making President.
Ultimately, ironically, the epitaph of the human race may be "Hasta la vista, baby."
"Imagine your favorite first-person shooter, role-playing game, or action adventure game. Now imagine that game broken up into one- to two-hour sequences. Now imagine that the first part was free and subsequent parts were delivered to you automatically for five bucks a pop, each month. Would you take the bait?"
...it's called an MMORPG...
After colleagues at the San Diego Supercomputing Center informed Shimomura that someone had stolen hundreds of software programs and files from his work station,
Yeah - he sounds like a REAL expert - having to be told that his workstation had been compromised...? Not to mention left vulnerable in the first place.
ou mean like from the Savant for a Day article in NYT?
Yes - that's the sort of thing. Always fancied trying it myself.
What about those machines where they put your head into a very strong magnetic field?
Apparently people feel very strange while exposed, and many describe feeling "in the presence of god".
Are these machines a health risk?
The men would have a local venomous snake bite their penises, and after six months of mind-altering agony, their shlongs had become very long. Now, what I want to know is how this happened (and what type of snake was used)?
A type that was human flesh coloured that didn't let go?
Well I propose that doing stupid surveys that say anything is harmful to you is harmful to you.
In fact, I propose if more (attractive) women found intelligent men attractive rather than sport watching morons, there would be less anti-social net use.
STFU
No.
Yes mobile TVs as they cannot be considered part of a property.
Your home license would cover you for a portable battery TV, but if you start using it say as a student in a dorm, and your parents use their TV at home, you are out of license.
And people say Microsoft licensing is bad.
I must correct my parent post - the license covers the use of any and all equipment capable of receiving TV signals. It is not illegal to merely own TV receiving equipment, only to use it to receive TV programme services that originate from within the UK.