Well, you can always fight back by showing up to school with a a trenchcoat and some semi automatic rifles and just take out the people that are bothering you....oh wait.
The phenonemon where the user actually believes the default page for their browser is actually their Internet provider is one I am still trying to explain myself.
Back in the ISP days I had customers chew me out because after signing up with us, IE was still defaulting to aol.com and now they were going to get charged for both. This was actually a common occurence. That and the "Hi, is the Internet server down?" Or the infamous, "This is the most lousy service I've ever had!! Everytime I try to dial in it says you have no dialtone!!!"
Anyway, long live ISP techsupport.
I had a client who believed that if they hosted their website on linux they had to release the source to all their software. They believed this for 2 years while their IIS machines were hacked 3 times, even fully patched. (they are somewhat of a target because he has many 'ub3r l337' customers). I helped them move to Linux w/Apache + MySQL and charge them a small fee every month for keeping them patched, maininging the security policies, and to offer advice about anything and everything they ask about.
I mean,its not like responding to an event and incrementing a variable takes that much programming skill. The only reason these machines are having these problems is becase they are designed to allow people to rig elections. At best, its simply bad programming but I don't believe that.
Everytime some FUD comes out about Linux, Sun is there to say 'Oh wait, we're not really suppoting Linux, we have Solaris! Its better!'. Then something good comes out about Linux and Sun issues are press release about what big Linux zealots they are. They are just a bunch of old men who have lost their edge.
An important factor in Linux' cost is its maintenance. Linux requires a *lot* of maintenance, work doable only by the relatively few high-paid Linux administrators that put themselves - of course willingly - at a great place in the market. Linux seems to be needing maintenance continuously, to keep it from breaking down.
Please give examples of maintenance Linux needs to keep running besides normal patching that both Windows and Linux require. I would like to know what I am not doing.
This big flurry of patents by MS is aimed totally at Linux. Just wait and see. They are going to pull a SCO on us big time and claim Linux contains their IP and start demending fees from companies who use Linux.
It would look like the HL1 SDK because:
a. the package contained the source for HL1
b. the modding SDK API stayed pretty much the same to make it easier for everyone to port their mods.
What I don't understand is this crap about how Linux costs less at first but in the end costs more to administrate and support? How is that possible?
I've used Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows NT in a ISP setting for about 5 years. We had close to 20,000 dialups and about 3000 web hosting customers. All of our Linux/BSD machines would run perfectly with over 365 day uptimes accross the board. Hundreds of hosting customers per machine and a Radius server running Radiator and mySQL that was in the 2 year uptime range when I left. The only time we ever rebooted was to add hardware or swap the kernel.
NT, on the other hand was a thorn in the side of everyone in the NOC. The machines not only needed to be patched constantly but the machines were constantly locking or IIS would just decide to start eating 100% cpu. We tried everything and the only thing to keep them stable was to simple have the day shift reboot them all as soon as they came in every single day.
I know from ISPCon and other industry events that our company was not the only ones to experience this. It got to the point at ISPCon to where if you were a vendor selling software and it didn't run on Linux....you probably were not going to sell any software that weekend.
So, in our case, Linux not only save us money up front but all over the place. I want to know what exactly these costs are that make Linux more expensive to administrate. The only thing I can think of is that a competent Linux guy is going to cost you much more than a competent NT guy (if there is such a thing). This I think is a good thing. Not only do you get a better OS, you spend the money you save on more clueful personel.
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I can't give you my name or company but while I was cleaning the kitchen area at this Fortune 500 company, I heard some exec talking about how Darl McBride is g4y n00bite.
Maybe I'm an idiot but doesn't the DB server determine whether or not you can do transaction and rollback after a failed query? And why does everyone who brings up transactions talk about banking software...is it because when you go to the bank, you make a 'transaction'? Anyway, any database where you have tables with many foreign keys can benefit from transaction support and I rollback multiple queries all the time with PHP using the 'ROLLBACK' command in postgres.
It completely lacks exception handling, which makes rolling back partial transactions (etc) impossible in banking scenarios.
I think one thing everyone is forgetting is that the HL Linux community is huge and has written probably millions of lines of code specifically to work with Half-Life. All this code has done nothing but keep HL1 alive, ever extending the life of the game.
Check out Metamod, a server mod that allows you to load multiple server mods. All server add ons are pretty much based on Metamod. Here is the List of Plugins available for metamod.
Then we have AdminMod, probably the most popular server mod adds all kinds of capability to the HL server, including MYSQL support. Not only that, it has a small interpreter built in and there are litterally hundreds of plugins available.
There is also all the Anti-Cheat software, software written by someone else then 'acquired by UnitedAdmins' (inside joke), server log parsers in pretty much every language, server status tools, bots, map building tools for linux, the list goes on and on.
The great thing about running a Half-Life server is that is really the BEST bar none game server software available. It makes Quake3 server and BF1942 look like Kommander Keen. Much of the functionally came from the Linux community. It was a 'symbiotic relationship' but I think Valve owes us a little more than a thanks.
I can boot into XP faster than I can get up, go into living room, pick a crappy game from my selection, and load up the PS2.
Personally, I don't see that happening anytime soon. My advice to you is to do what I did -- leave your PC for serious work, and go out and buy a PlayStation 2, a good TV, and a surround sound system. Add in the network adapter and the PS2 Linux kit, and you have a kick-ass game system, DVD player, and Linux box all in one nice black box, leaving your PCs available for more serious computing tasks.
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Well, apache does have 70% of the web server market share. I would say that makes it a serious competitor.
Well, you can always fight back by showing up to school with a a trenchcoat and some semi automatic rifles and just take out the people that are bothering you....oh wait.
The phenonemon where the user actually believes the default page for their browser is actually their Internet provider is one I am still trying to explain myself. Back in the ISP days I had customers chew me out because after signing up with us, IE was still defaulting to aol.com and now they were going to get charged for both. This was actually a common occurence. That and the "Hi, is the Internet server down?" Or the infamous, "This is the most lousy service I've ever had!! Everytime I try to dial in it says you have no dialtone!!!" Anyway, long live ISP techsupport.
The truth is, you can't stop Linux. Nothing can. Not SCO, not Microsoft, not anyone. They can try, they will fail.
I had a client who believed that if they hosted their website on linux they had to release the source to all their software. They believed this for 2 years while their IIS machines were hacked 3 times, even fully patched. (they are somewhat of a target because he has many 'ub3r l337' customers). I helped them move to Linux w/Apache + MySQL and charge them a small fee every month for keeping them patched, maininging the security policies, and to offer advice about anything and everything they ask about.
I mean,its not like responding to an event and incrementing a variable takes that much programming skill. The only reason these machines are having these problems is becase they are designed to allow people to rig elections. At best, its simply bad programming but I don't believe that.
I think they are demonstrating on Redhat 6...I think those bugs have long been patched.
I tihnk you confused us with people who give a shit what you have.
GNOME won the most unintuitive GUI award and the worst overall window manger award.
Thats an easy question. Because things that suck don't usually sell to well. Kylix, Calderda Linux, NGauge, etc.
What incentive did they have to port before it ran on Wine? None. So we haven't really changed anything besides the fact it now runs on Linux.
This just makes me say to id: fix your damn physics model!
And the physics engine matters here why?
They patented parents paying for their kids stuff. Hmm. Talk about prior art.
Everytime some FUD comes out about Linux, Sun is there to say 'Oh wait, we're not really suppoting Linux, we have Solaris! Its better!'. Then something good comes out about Linux and Sun issues are press release about what big Linux zealots they are. They are just a bunch of old men who have lost their edge.
No, it means that 16% of people who took the poll have been affected by SCO's threats.
Its so easy to trick the public with polls and percentages, maybe even a nice graph. I bet 1 and 10 people who took the poll were actually CIO.
The only real points you made were:
1. redhat sucks
2. your a shitty professor
We all knew #1 already, #2 I was pretty easy to figure out as well.
An important factor in Linux' cost is its maintenance. Linux requires a *lot* of maintenance, work doable only by the relatively few high-paid Linux administrators that put themselves - of course willingly - at a great place in the market. Linux seems to be needing maintenance continuously, to keep it from breaking down. Please give examples of maintenance Linux needs to keep running besides normal patching that both Windows and Linux require. I would like to know what I am not doing.
This big flurry of patents by MS is aimed totally at Linux. Just wait and see. They are going to pull a SCO on us big time and claim Linux contains their IP and start demending fees from companies who use Linux.
It would look like the HL1 SDK because: a. the package contained the source for HL1 b. the modding SDK API stayed pretty much the same to make it easier for everyone to port their mods.
What I don't understand is this crap about how Linux costs less at first but in the end costs more to administrate and support? How is that possible?
I've used Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows NT in a ISP setting for about 5 years. We had close to 20,000 dialups and about 3000 web hosting customers. All of our Linux/BSD machines would run perfectly with over 365 day uptimes accross the board. Hundreds of hosting customers per machine and a Radius server running Radiator and mySQL that was in the 2 year uptime range when I left. The only time we ever rebooted was to add hardware or swap the kernel.
NT, on the other hand was a thorn in the side of everyone in the NOC. The machines not only needed to be patched constantly but the machines were constantly locking or IIS would just decide to start eating 100% cpu. We tried everything and the only thing to keep them stable was to simple have the day shift reboot them all as soon as they came in every single day.
I know from ISPCon and other industry events that our company was not the only ones to experience this. It got to the point at ISPCon to where if you were a vendor selling software and it didn't run on Linux....you probably were not going to sell any software that weekend.
So, in our case, Linux not only save us money up front but all over the place. I want to know what exactly these costs are that make Linux more expensive to administrate. The only thing I can think of is that a competent Linux guy is going to cost you much more than a competent NT guy (if there is such a thing). This I think is a good thing. Not only do you get a better OS, you spend the money you save on more clueful personel.
I can't give you my name or company but while I was cleaning the kitchen area at this Fortune 500 company, I heard some exec talking about how Darl McBride is g4y n00bite.
You not communicating a big enough check.
Maybe I'm an idiot but doesn't the DB server determine whether or not you can do transaction and rollback after a failed query? And why does everyone who brings up transactions talk about banking software...is it because when you go to the bank, you make a 'transaction'? Anyway, any database where you have tables with many foreign keys can benefit from transaction support and I rollback multiple queries all the time with PHP using the 'ROLLBACK' command in postgres.
It completely lacks exception handling, which makes rolling back partial transactions (etc) impossible in banking scenarios.I think one thing everyone is forgetting is that the HL Linux community is huge and has written probably millions of lines of code specifically to work with Half-Life. All this code has done nothing but keep HL1 alive, ever extending the life of the game.
Check out Metamod, a server mod that allows you to load multiple server mods. All server add ons are pretty much based on Metamod. Here is the List of Plugins available for metamod.
Then we have AdminMod, probably the most popular server mod adds all kinds of capability to the HL server, including MYSQL support. Not only that, it has a small interpreter built in and there are litterally hundreds of plugins available.
There is also all the Anti-Cheat software, software written by someone else then 'acquired by UnitedAdmins' (inside joke), server log parsers in pretty much every language, server status tools, bots, map building tools for linux, the list goes on and on.
The great thing about running a Half-Life server is that is really the BEST bar none game server software available. It makes Quake3 server and BF1942 look like Kommander Keen. Much of the functionally came from the Linux community. It was a 'symbiotic relationship' but I think Valve owes us a little more than a thanks.
I can boot into XP faster than I can get up, go into living room, pick a crappy game from my selection, and load up the PS2.
Personally, I don't see that happening anytime soon. My advice to you is to do what I did -- leave your PC for serious work, and go out and buy a PlayStation 2, a good TV, and a surround sound system. Add in the network adapter and the PS2 Linux kit, and you have a kick-ass game system, DVD player, and Linux box all in one nice black box, leaving your PCs available for more serious computing tasks.