A movie-style self destruction system like you're imagining (effectively computer controlled bombs planted all over the device) are a lot more dangerous to the ground crew than is really acceptable for all but the most closely guarded secrets.
USAF ground crews are quite used to multiple explosive and/or dangerous things on regular fighter aircraft. Ejection seats, munitions ejector carts, the bombs & missiles themselves, hydrazine fueled emergency power, IR flares...
Yes, this is just a recon aircraft. But small scale explosives to destroy the sensitive bits would not be out of line, nor unusual to USAF ground crew. The only issue might be the remote controlled trigger. Easily safed on the ground b the standard mechanical safety pins.
Now things brings up the question, why on earth did they name the newest, most advanced aircraft carriers on the planet after a President who was never elected by anyone
General users cannot and will not grasp the finer points of how you need the information. About all you can do is
1. Ask them to resend, but with specific directions or
2. some sort of screen sharing application - "Ok, show me exactly what you were doing when..."
Getting caught and then asking to return their spying device, lol.
Like the Russians asking for their MiG-25 back (they got it in boxes after much study), or the US asking China for it's EP-3 orion back (we got it and it is still flying today).
so what kind of public outcry would happen if a drone malfunctions and self distructs on a miltary base possibly injuring or killing troops?
On any modern combat aircraft, there are enough ways to blow yourself up that a self destruct mech would not increase that danger. Ejection seats, hydrazine, rjrctor carts, and the normal bombs and missiles are there already.
And if you're lucky at Langley, you can see the F-22 demo pilot practice the full airshow routine. (3-4 times a month) No way to predict when, but he did it just yesterday.
I say we all get together and agree to not re-elect a single member of Congress. We could clear the entire House next year and a decent chunk of the Senate. I don't care if the new members are democrats, republicans, blue, green, red, or purple, it just seems like the entrenched politics is completely broken.
This has been my modus operandi for years. If you are sitting in that seat, you have proven yourself to be incompetent. GTFO and let someone else try.
How about one of the GPS kid locators? I despise them for tracking your kid, but for your scoot? Maybe. I've seen some for $200 or so. Mount it on the bike somewhere hidden...reports back to your smartphone.
As an American, I feel sure these speeds must be mis-types by an order of magnitude. Right?
As another american, sitting here on my 25/25 Verizon FiOS, having just switched from a 20/5 COX cable line...I think you live in the wrong area.
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Marine infantry says that. Perhaps they have a better perspective than Mr. McPeak has from his desk in Oregon.
"Mr. McPeak" was the AF Chief of Staff. I think he knows a little bit about aircraft.
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By the time the F-35 starts to come fully online (2020?), the F-16, which is one of those it will replace, will have been in service for 40 years. Extrapolating forward, that means we can expect to be flying the F-35's well past 2050 or 2060. I doubt we could keep F-16's and -18's around until then.
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I think the larger story isn't a troubled individual program, it's a federal government that outsources and contracts almost *everything* these days.
The word 'drawdown' is the fault here. Let's say for a given capability, it takes 5,000,000 individuals. 4.5 million uniforms, and 500,000 civilian contractors. Along comes Congress, and they want to, in the name of votes, drawdown the number of uniforms on active duty. So down we go down to 3,000,000 active duty, Hooray! We cut the size of ythe military! But wait a minute. It still takes 5,000,000 individuals to run that given capability. So now you have 3,000,000 uniforms, and 2,000,000 civilians.
In some cases, this is a good thing. I'd rather have a young airman out fixing a jet rather than wasting the day cutting the grass. So hire a local company to do that grass. But I'd also rather have active duty Marines protecting a US official in Kabul, rather than Blackwater doing it.
Second, contrary to the headline, they're not threatening over the "AppleADay" name but the logo
It looks like...a drawing of an apple. Hard to depict an apple without it looking like an apple. But there are significant differences. Hollow, 2 leaves on top, no bite out of the right side, different color.
Was thinking more like live cargo, military or private, or medical supplies.
None of this is any different from a current helicopter
Private: Drop of a hiker somewhere normally inaccessible by foot, they wander around, then they get picked up at a prearranged time.
Heliskiing
Military: Paratrooper or other grunt gets airlifted from boat, flies low to avoid radar, auto-ejected at a certain point, and craft returns. If clearing big enough then possible pickup of grunt/trooper possible as well.
Standard military ops
Medical: Can lift off and drop off needed medical assistance that normally too heavy to luge around when doctor pages.
Coast Guard or oil platform ops.
The Navy and Army already have near term small helicopter UAV's. Retrofit that same control system into a Blackhawk, and there ya go.
This thing, with 16 motors introduces many more points of failure. Very cool, but practical? No. And definitely not useful for real world applications. Not yet, anyway.
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A movie-style self destruction system like you're imagining (effectively computer controlled bombs planted all over the device) are a lot more dangerous to the ground crew than is really acceptable for all but the most closely guarded secrets.
USAF ground crews are quite used to multiple explosive and/or dangerous things on regular fighter aircraft. Ejection seats, munitions ejector carts, the bombs & missiles themselves, hydrazine fueled emergency power, IR flares...
Yes, this is just a recon aircraft. But small scale explosives to destroy the sensitive bits would not be out of line, nor unusual to USAF ground crew. The only issue might be the remote controlled trigger. Easily safed on the ground b the standard mechanical safety pins.
Now things brings up the question, why on earth did they name the newest, most advanced aircraft carriers on the planet after a President who was never elected by anyone
Probably because he was in the Navy.
Well, more importantly, it proves you don't need a major publishing company to make a profit.
You just need to already be very, very popular and well known name.
Next up a terrorist is person of the year.
Too late. See 1993.
General users cannot and will not grasp the finer points of how you need the information. About all you can do is
1. Ask them to resend, but with specific directions
or 2. some sort of screen sharing application - "Ok, show me exactly what you were doing when..."
Getting caught and then asking to return their spying device, lol.
Like the Russians asking for their MiG-25 back (they got it in boxes after much study), or the US asking China for it's EP-3 orion back (we got it and it is still flying today).
Why do we still have book publishing?! Everything should by indie and self marketed.
For the same reason that most people don't fix their own plumbing. It is easier and safer to pay a professional to do it.
edit for myself:
BANANA = Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Apple.
Much as with some of the more extreme factions of the enviro movement, you have to subscribe to the BANANA principle.
Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone.
so what kind of public outcry would happen if a drone malfunctions and self distructs on a miltary base possibly injuring or killing troops?
On any modern combat aircraft, there are enough ways to blow yourself up that a self destruct mech would not increase that danger. Ejection seats, hydrazine, rjrctor carts, and the normal bombs and missiles are there already.
The RQ-4 Global Hawk is more the size of a 707. Wingspan of 116'.
I'm not sure what Predator you've been looking at, but the MQ-1 is similar in size/speed/weight to a Cessna 172, not a 707.
(like it or not, Facebook has become part of life for almost every human on earth)
Just over 10%, actually. Significant, but by far not 'most'.
And if you're lucky at Langley, you can see the F-22 demo pilot practice the full airshow routine. (3-4 times a month) No way to predict when, but he did it just yesterday.
I say we all get together and agree to not re-elect a single member of Congress. We could clear the entire House next year and a decent chunk of the Senate. I don't care if the new members are democrats, republicans, blue, green, red, or purple, it just seems like the entrenched politics is completely broken.
This has been my modus operandi for years. If you are sitting in that seat, you have proven yourself to be incompetent. GTFO and let someone else try.
How about one of the GPS kid locators? I despise them for tracking your kid, but for your scoot? Maybe. I've seen some for $200 or so. Mount it on the bike somewhere hidden...reports back to your smartphone.
As an American, I feel sure these speeds must be mis-types by an order of magnitude. Right?
As another american, sitting here on my 25/25 Verizon FiOS, having just switched from a 20/5 COX cable line...I think you live in the wrong area.
Marine infantry says that. Perhaps they have a better perspective than Mr. McPeak has from his desk in Oregon.
"Mr. McPeak" was the AF Chief of Staff. I think he knows a little bit about aircraft.
By the time the F-35 starts to come fully online (2020?), the F-16, which is one of those it will replace, will have been in service for 40 years. Extrapolating forward, that means we can expect to be flying the F-35's well past 2050 or 2060. I doubt we could keep F-16's and -18's around until then.
I think the larger story isn't a troubled individual program, it's a federal government that outsources and contracts almost *everything* these days.
The word 'drawdown' is the fault here.
Let's say for a given capability, it takes 5,000,000 individuals. 4.5 million uniforms, and 500,000 civilian contractors. Along comes Congress, and they want to, in the name of votes, drawdown the number of uniforms on active duty. So down we go down to 3,000,000 active duty, Hooray! We cut the size of ythe military!
But wait a minute. It still takes 5,000,000 individuals to run that given capability. So now you have 3,000,000 uniforms, and 2,000,000 civilians.
In some cases, this is a good thing. I'd rather have a young airman out fixing a jet rather than wasting the day cutting the grass. So hire a local company to do that grass.
But I'd also rather have active duty Marines protecting a US official in Kabul, rather than Blackwater doing it.
Second, contrary to the headline, they're not threatening over the "AppleADay" name but the logo
It looks like...a drawing of an apple. Hard to depict an apple without it looking like an apple.
But there are significant differences. Hollow, 2 leaves on top, no bite out of the right side, different color.
state-rub hell-holes
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Was thinking more like live cargo, military or private, or medical supplies.
None of this is any different from a current helicopter
Private: Drop of a hiker somewhere normally inaccessible by foot, they wander around, then they get picked up at a prearranged time.
Heliskiing
Military: Paratrooper or other grunt gets airlifted from boat, flies low to avoid radar, auto-ejected at a certain point, and craft returns. If clearing big enough then possible pickup of grunt/trooper possible as well.
Standard military ops
Medical: Can lift off and drop off needed medical assistance that normally too heavy to luge around when doctor pages.
Coast Guard or oil platform ops.
The Navy and Army already have near term small helicopter UAV's. Retrofit that same control system into a Blackhawk, and there ya go.
This thing, with 16 motors introduces many more points of failure. Very cool, but practical? No. And definitely not useful for real world applications. Not yet, anyway.
Be neat to auto-guide the craft to a location, deliver an object, then return to base for recharging.
Your 'object' sounds exactly like a bomb or missile. I know you were thinking FedEx, but it's not really any different than a Predator.
require all cars to have a GPS system that is always on
How about no. No further explanation needed - just "no".