I agree this is a golden age.... for real time strategy and (maybe) first person shooters. The reason I say maybe on the first person shooters is..can you really compare anything released in the last 3 years to the impact of, first, DOOM, then DukeNukem 3d? But aside from that...I am SO sick of RTS games. I know it is because the developers are developing for twitch gamers, and the suckers who buy every console that comes out, as soon as it comes out. (son, looking over my shoulder, says "why did you call me a sucker?" I say "son, they developed those games on PC's; there is no reason in the world they don't release them on PC's, except to drive console sales". Where is the Xcom: Enemy Unknown of this Golden Age? the Civilization? The Railroad Tycoon? The Ultima Underground? The Dungeon Keeper I&II? The first 3 Wing Commanders? Settlers 1 & 2? Master of Orion 1&2? Star Control 2? Loom? and finally, (hushed) The Master of Magic? Golden Age my Ass.
I didn't like the Libertarian candidate, either. I wrote in my daughters name. I just can't bring myself to vote for the lesser evil; if I want to vote for Evil, I'll write in Cthulhu. This last one was a real tough election for me. I'm a one issue voter; I vote for the person who I think will uphold the 2nd amendment. Kerry was obviously out of the question, But I think Bush is probably a greater danger to our national "reset switch" by making sure less & less people are legally able to own guns and increasing the sheeptitude of the general population.
It was pretty sweet, actually. still working until I lost it in a move in '99. I have nothing against apple hardware; I just can't stand the culture, and never want anyone to be able to factually call me a "Mac user". Yeah, I know. wierdo. I also refuse to vote for the lesser evil in elections.
I purposefully know as little about Macs as possible, as I hate the user mystique thing (My last Apple product was an Apple III), but I thought they would run on Intel CPU's now? I bought a HP 8230 Centrino Core Duo t2300 laptop a couple of months ago that was rated to run Vista (Core duo, Nvidia GeForce 7400 with 256MB, 1gb ram) (not that I'll ever run Vista). The sucker will run anything, and the battery lasts about 2 hours playing oblivion at full resolution. But it seems that if Mac OS will run on Intel CPU's now, it would run on one of these.
Interesting? come on, folks. I was trying to inspire blind hatred by that post. the next time I check here I better be trolled to oblivion or funny, but not interesting. gak.
I use myth on my firewall/PC-PVR/File/Print server. but I got a TOTALLY sweet HP DV8230US Laptop a couple of months back, and i've had problems keeping debian stable on the core duo CPU; never even tried to get the built in tuner / capture stuff working. i'm sure it's something I could work out if I screwed with it enough, but it works just fine the way it is, I can circumvent the MS DRM/spyware, and I use VirtualPC for anything I can't do in Media Center. It does bug the heck out of me to be running a variant of XP, though.
Hmm. I certainly tried it before I suggested it; just went in and verified that I had it set up that way, checked my firewalls to see if I put something there... nope. just the "127.0.0.1 update.microsoft.com" in hosts. Wait a minute... i'm using Win2k. are you using WinME version 2.0, otherwise known as WinXP? that would explain it. since you already have integrated spyware & DRM right out of the box, you might as well go to windowsupdate, no reason not to.
....or you can do what I did; modify your hosts file with "127.0.0.1 update.microsoft.com" so that any time it tries to automatically go to windows update, it can't. Then, go to WinDiz at windowsupdate.62nds.com using a non-IE browser. It's faster, more secure, doesn't TRY to make you install the latest DRM upgrade, just the critical patches. The Only system I have that I let go to windows update is my Media Center laptop; it has to be running all the latest DRM/Spyware to work properly, so I just go with the flow and Isolate it on my home network.
I would send you a copy of my resume, but I doubt you would believe it. MCSE was at the end of my career, i'm retired. I also was pretty sure that i mentioned everyone had a different opinion, and this was mine; I did not, unfortunately, use those exact words but that was the gist. Ok. Some programs REQUIRE virtual memory, they are written that way. In WIn2k+, the memory manager wants to be able to address out to 1.5 times the amount of RAM in your system. The goal is to avoid anything getting written to swap; it slows your overall system performance. If you can disable your swap, and nothing crashes, you don't get any request for more virtual memory, in other words if things just work better, then leave things that way... just do not forget that you did it. However, since the modern era sprang upon us, with SATA drives, and machines having a min of 512MB RAM, it is really not that much of an issue in the first place; so what if your computer writes some currently unused bit of code to swap? you are unlikely to notice. The only place is does matter is with people running legacy hardware, or really pushing the envelope with multiple tasks on modern hardware. One thing that some people do in situations like this (since NT 4+) is to mess with DisablePagingExecutive in registry; this keeps the NT executive from being paged to disk, making for a overall more nimble system. Oh, and I stand by the XP is the ME of the 21st century thing. integrated spyware/DRM? having to call MS when you add RAM? Enforced Validation to keep your machine from being a security risk to the world, even though the validation system is knowen to be screwed up? AMT technology, allowing your computer to be completely fried by MS at their whim, or the first hacker that figures it out? It is stuff like this that is making me move back to Unix/Linix; when I can't use win2k anymore, I won't be using a Microsoft product anymore.
Nothing will run on XP (except the 64-bit kernel stuff that MS killed; I would trade my left nut for the ia64 patch they killed) that Win2k will not run better, including games. What they have done is include lock-outs in the installers that prevent the games from installing on anything but XP+. If you doubt this, create a text file, something on the lines of "I need a Win2k patch for XP only Armored Core.txt" and share it on a p2p network such as eMule; I doubt you will have to wait more than 2 days or so before you will get you Win2k enabling patch. I first noticed this with Age of Empires III, wouldn't let me install. I fixed that one myself, but quite a few others are doing it now. Long Live the XP Resistance! Guysmiley777, contact me by e-mail if you wish further concrete details.
Here is The True Word from a MCSE of long standing on the subject of virtual memory and windows (please note that nearly every person who has worked with windows will have a different true word): All windows: defrag your drives first. Win98SE: if RAM is =/> than 256mb, make Min setting equal to the amount of RAM, Max set to 1.5 the amount of RAM. If less than 256mb, set min setting to 1.5 times amount of ram, max to 2.5 times or 512MB, whichever comes first.
Winnt: if you have 2 drives (not two partitions, two drives) create swap files with min/max equal to the amount of physical memory in the system on 2 drives. This is a way to make WinNT scream when it comes to disk writes Otherwise, if RAM is less than 256mb, set Virtual memory, both min & max, to twice your amount of RAM; if you have => 256MB, set min & Max to 1.5 times the amount of RAM.
Win2k: if you have less than or equal to 512MB, set min to 1.5 times RAM, max to 2 times RAM. if you have greater than 512mb, set swap min/max to 1.5 times RAM. If you ever get an "out of virtual memory" error, defrag and add 100mb to min/max. If you have =/> 2GB RAM, disable swap, unless you are running server, in which case 4GB is the magic number. The 2 drive swap method just doesn't seem to work as well on Win2k as it did on WinNT; no clue why, but i've tested it repeatedly.
WinXP Pro: Luser. why are you running the Windows ME of the 21st century? at least you aren't running WinXP home, though. just follow the guidelines for win2k, since that is all WinXP pro is, win2k with add-on crap, no changes to kernel or underlying function.
Win2003: No clue.
Vista: Not only have no clue, but I promise you I never will.
So what IS your current status? I think electronic voting, for wrong or wronger, is with us to stay; those of us who have the ear of election officials would like to have any information available about projects like this.
My car is a '95 wrangler so doesn't have such pesky things, but on my GF's car the EDR has 10v NiCad and a hefty capaciter wired between the accelerometer lowpass filter and the EEPROM, with a keyed switch on the dash for completing the circuit. In the event of a crash, it has been my experience that an insurance company will use any excuse whatsover to screw you, so why make it easy on them? if it's not illegal, someone really should start a business selling this sort of add-on; it's really simple and not real hard to install.
I will say from personal experience that they do in Evansville, Indiana; Radcliff, KY and Paris, TN. They will let you do it like once, maybe twice, but then you have to make "other arrangements". And the bad things is... they forbid cell phones. Not just cell phone use, they actually will confiscate a cell phone if they see one. I'm thinking about giving my daughter a taser to take to use on anyone who touches her emergency-use cell phone. Maybe a flare gun?
The games I mentioned are special cases; Master of Magic would be very difficult for a Younger gamer to even try due to the 320x240 graphics, but once you get past that it is more addictive than Crank. If you have not played it, you are missing out on a game that many people insist is the greatest turn based strategy game ever made. There would be no point whatsoever to upgrade the gameplay, but as I said, most younger gamers aren't going to be able to get past the blocky graphics and needs-improvement audio to get to the game; if whoever holds the copyright would put a small team to just updating the graphics & audio, and leaving the game itself completely alone, then released it as "MoM: The 2nd coming" or something like that, sales would easily rival CivIV. X-com 1 isn't really in the same boat; the graphics are 640x480, and the audio is perfect, so a younger player could still enjoy it to a degree. As to focusing on creativity, yeah, this isn't that. this was an attempt to argue what I thought the gaming industry SHOULD be doing if they aren't going to release new and interesting games, they should take the tried-and-true can-not-be-improved-upon classics, and update them to modern video and audio standards.
Step 1: Make sure he doesn't have a pacemaker. Step 2: Take your Microwave Oven apart. Step 3: Using the existing waveguides as an example, fashion one that will fit on the feed horn of the Magnetron that is about 3'/1m long; it will need to be metal and the surfaces will need to be as close to flat as possible. Step 4: set it up at the edge of your property closest to the Mosquito device, with the outlet of the wave guide pointing directly at the device. Step 5: Knock on your neighbors door and Politely inform them they are disturbing your peace within your home, and that you will sue them if they do not desist. Step 6:??? Step 7: Profit?
I sort of like Railroad tycoon II, but I would have REALLY liked a patch to the original that just updated the graphics, so I know what you mean. The gameplay really could not be improved on. I'd also like to see a "Modern Graphics" patch for Colonization, and would easily shell out $30 for it.
If you are in the industry, answer me this: Why hasn't someone taken Master of Magic, updated the graphics, and re-released it? Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic was a decent attempt at cloning it, but surely whoever owns the copyright to the original could stand to make a few million dollars by JUST UPDATING THE GRAPHICS? Same thing goes for X-com (or UFO: Enemy Unknown depending on your continent). The only "true classic" PC game that this has happened to is Transport Tycoon (Locomotion) and it didn't really even need it; Chris Sawyer wrote it in assembly.
I never put anything on a CD that might somehow get on the lens. Pledge works pretty good, but I'll try pouring simmering water over them, first; IME it's the dust and crap trapped in the scratches that cause the laser to fail to read the data, get rid of that and you are go for a CloneCD session. The most extreme solution I tried was the plastic scratch protectors; put a very small amount of vegetable oil on the CD evenly, then put on the scratch protector; as long as the CD is clean clean clean before you put the oil on, and the top isn't scratched, it'll read once, guaranteed.
"Stuff that matters" I'm a Nerd. Reports that detail the increasingly terroristic methods employed by the police interest me; there is also the misuse of technology, i.e. the DNA test; what exactly was the point in that? I can see a problem with desensitizing (is that a word?) the issue; if every little abuse by The Man is blown up for everyone to see, then normal sheeple will get tired of seeing it and tune it out; It would be in the best interest of Sheep everywhere possibly if only the really blatant stuff was screamed about.
The Paint and special equipment in the article can be thought of as first generation equipment; there is little doubt the technical hurdles requiring the paint or bulky equipment will go away in time. There is no reason a decent hi-res multi-angle view of someone could not do the same thing, given enough refinement to the software and processing horsepower.
Not unless that is what they are going to use to render the tentacle porn; it IS a Japanese Supercomputer, after all. Y'know, I have a feeling I should really post this as anonymous coward.
something I would like to say. I've always looked on laws as intended to be a sort of codified morality; The problem i've seen with police behavior in my lifetime is that they have gone from being "guardians of the peace" to "enforcers of the code". They are not, in the slightest, encouraged to be public servants; they are indoctrinated from day one that we are the unwashed masses, and they are the watchdogs. In your example citing hidden police being more effective, I agree; but when I was growing up in the 70's and 80's, that was the example used to show how we were superior to the Soviets; Our police/government were held accountable for their actions. Hmm. your statements made me want to reply on how wrong I think you are, but my lack of sleep keeps me from stringing the concepts together; I guess I'll quit.
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I agree this is a golden age.... for real time strategy and (maybe) first person shooters.
The reason I say maybe on the first person shooters is..can you really compare anything released in the last 3 years to the impact of, first, DOOM, then DukeNukem 3d?
But aside from that...I am SO sick of RTS games.
I know it is because the developers are developing for twitch gamers, and the suckers who buy every console that comes out, as soon as it comes out. (son, looking over my shoulder, says "why did you call me a sucker?" I say "son, they developed those games on PC's; there is no reason in the world they don't release them on PC's, except to drive console sales".
Where is the Xcom: Enemy Unknown of this Golden Age? the Civilization? The Railroad Tycoon? The Ultima Underground? The Dungeon Keeper I&II? The first 3 Wing Commanders? Settlers 1 & 2? Master of Orion 1&2? Star Control 2? Loom? and finally, (hushed) The Master of Magic?
Golden Age my Ass.
I didn't like the Libertarian candidate, either. I wrote in my daughters name.
I just can't bring myself to vote for the lesser evil; if I want to vote for Evil, I'll write in Cthulhu.
This last one was a real tough election for me. I'm a one issue voter; I vote for the person who I think will uphold the 2nd amendment. Kerry was obviously out of the question, But I think Bush is probably a greater danger to our national "reset switch" by making sure less & less people are legally able to own guns and increasing the sheeptitude of the general population.
It was pretty sweet, actually. still working until I lost it in a move in '99.
I have nothing against apple hardware; I just can't stand the culture, and never want anyone to be able to factually call me a "Mac user".
Yeah, I know. wierdo. I also refuse to vote for the lesser evil in elections.
I purposefully know as little about Macs as possible, as I hate the user mystique thing (My last Apple product was an Apple III), but I thought they would run on Intel CPU's now? I bought a HP 8230 Centrino Core Duo t2300 laptop a couple of months ago that was rated to run Vista (Core duo, Nvidia GeForce 7400 with 256MB, 1gb ram) (not that I'll ever run Vista). The sucker will run anything, and the battery lasts about 2 hours playing oblivion at full resolution. But it seems that if Mac OS will run on Intel CPU's now, it would run on one of these.
Interesting? come on, folks. I was trying to inspire blind hatred by that post. the next time I check here I better be trolled to oblivion or funny, but not interesting. gak.
All I want to know is, is where is the win32 version? this would be SWEET running on WinME!
(yes, obviously my karma is too good)
I use myth on my firewall/PC-PVR/File/Print server. but I got a TOTALLY sweet HP DV8230US Laptop a couple of months back, and i've had problems keeping debian stable on the core duo CPU; never even tried to get the built in tuner / capture stuff working. i'm sure it's something I could work out if I screwed with it enough, but it works just fine the way it is, I can circumvent the MS DRM/spyware, and I use VirtualPC for anything I can't do in Media Center.
It does bug the heck out of me to be running a variant of XP, though.
Hmm. I certainly tried it before I suggested it; just went in and verified that I had it set up that way, checked my firewalls to see if I put something there... nope. just the "127.0.0.1 update.microsoft.com" in hosts.
Wait a minute... i'm using Win2k. are you using WinME version 2.0, otherwise known as WinXP? that would explain it. since you already have integrated spyware & DRM right out of the box, you might as well go to windowsupdate, no reason not to.
....or you can do what I did; modify your hosts file with "127.0.0.1 update.microsoft.com" so that any time it tries to automatically go to windows update, it can't.
Then, go to WinDiz at windowsupdate.62nds.com using a non-IE browser. It's faster, more secure, doesn't TRY to make you install the latest DRM upgrade, just the critical patches.
The Only system I have that I let go to windows update is my Media Center laptop; it has to be running all the latest DRM/Spyware to work properly, so I just go with the flow and Isolate it on my home network.
I would send you a copy of my resume, but I doubt you would believe it. MCSE was at the end of my career, i'm retired.
I also was pretty sure that i mentioned everyone had a different opinion, and this was mine; I did not, unfortunately, use those exact words but that was the gist.
Ok. Some programs REQUIRE virtual memory, they are written that way. In WIn2k+, the memory manager wants to be able to address out to 1.5 times the amount of RAM in your system.
The goal is to avoid anything getting written to swap; it slows your overall system performance.
If you can disable your swap, and nothing crashes, you don't get any request for more virtual memory, in other words if things just work better, then leave things that way... just do not forget that you did it.
However, since the modern era sprang upon us, with SATA drives, and machines having a min of 512MB RAM, it is really not that much of an issue in the first place; so what if your computer writes some currently unused bit of code to swap? you are unlikely to notice.
The only place is does matter is with people running legacy hardware, or really pushing the envelope with multiple tasks on modern hardware.
One thing that some people do in situations like this (since NT 4+) is to mess with DisablePagingExecutive in registry; this keeps the NT executive from being paged to disk, making for a overall more nimble system.
Oh, and I stand by the XP is the ME of the 21st century thing. integrated spyware/DRM? having to call MS when you add RAM? Enforced Validation to keep your machine from being a security risk to the world, even though the validation system is knowen to be screwed up? AMT technology, allowing your computer to be completely fried by MS at their whim, or the first hacker that figures it out?
It is stuff like this that is making me move back to Unix/Linix; when I can't use win2k anymore, I won't be using a Microsoft product anymore.
Nothing will run on XP (except the 64-bit kernel stuff that MS killed; I would trade my left nut for the ia64 patch they killed) that Win2k will not run better, including games. What they have done is include lock-outs in the installers that prevent the games from installing on anything but XP+.
If you doubt this, create a text file, something on the lines of "I need a Win2k patch for XP only Armored Core.txt" and share it on a p2p network such as eMule; I doubt you will have to wait more than 2 days or so before you will get you Win2k enabling patch.
I first noticed this with Age of Empires III, wouldn't let me install. I fixed that one myself, but quite a few others are doing it now.
Long Live the XP Resistance!
Guysmiley777, contact me by e-mail if you wish further concrete details.
Here is The True Word from a MCSE of long standing on the subject of virtual memory and windows (please note that nearly every person who has worked with windows will have a different true word):
All windows: defrag your drives first.
Win98SE: if RAM is =/> than 256mb, make Min setting equal to the amount of RAM, Max set to 1.5 the amount of RAM.
If less than 256mb, set min setting to 1.5 times amount of ram, max to 2.5 times or 512MB, whichever comes first.
Winnt:
if you have 2 drives (not two partitions, two drives) create swap files with min/max equal to the amount of physical memory in the system on 2 drives. This is a way to make WinNT scream when it comes to disk writes
Otherwise, if RAM is less than 256mb, set Virtual memory, both min & max, to twice your amount of RAM; if you have => 256MB, set min & Max to 1.5 times the amount of RAM.
Win2k: if you have less than or equal to 512MB, set min to 1.5 times RAM, max to 2 times RAM. if you have greater than 512mb, set swap min/max to 1.5 times RAM.
If you ever get an "out of virtual memory" error, defrag and add 100mb to min/max.
If you have =/> 2GB RAM, disable swap, unless you are running server, in which case 4GB is the magic number.
The 2 drive swap method just doesn't seem to work as well on Win2k as it did on WinNT; no clue why, but i've tested it repeatedly.
WinXP Pro: Luser. why are you running the Windows ME of the 21st century? at least you aren't running WinXP home, though. just follow the guidelines for win2k, since that is all WinXP pro is, win2k with add-on crap, no changes to kernel or underlying function.
Win2003: No clue.
Vista: Not only have no clue, but I promise you I never will.
So what IS your current status? I think electronic voting, for wrong or wronger, is with us to stay; those of us who have the ear of election officials would like to have any information available about projects like this.
My car is a '95 wrangler so doesn't have such pesky things, but on my GF's car the EDR has 10v NiCad and a hefty capaciter wired between the accelerometer lowpass filter and the EEPROM, with a keyed switch on the dash for completing the circuit.
In the event of a crash, it has been my experience that an insurance company will use any excuse whatsover to screw you, so why make it easy on them?
if it's not illegal, someone really should start a business selling this sort of add-on; it's really simple and not real hard to install.
I will say from personal experience that they do in Evansville, Indiana; Radcliff, KY and Paris, TN.
They will let you do it like once, maybe twice, but then you have to make "other arrangements".
And the bad things is... they forbid cell phones. Not just cell phone use, they actually will confiscate a cell phone if they see one.
I'm thinking about giving my daughter a taser to take to use on anyone who touches her emergency-use cell phone.
Maybe a flare gun?
The games I mentioned are special cases; Master of Magic would be very difficult for a Younger gamer to even try due to the 320x240 graphics, but once you get past that it is more addictive than Crank. If you have not played it, you are missing out on a game that many people insist is the greatest turn based strategy game ever made.
There would be no point whatsoever to upgrade the gameplay, but as I said, most younger gamers aren't going to be able to get past the blocky graphics and needs-improvement audio to get to the game; if whoever holds the copyright would put a small team to just updating the graphics & audio, and leaving the game itself completely alone, then released it as "MoM: The 2nd coming" or something like that, sales would easily rival CivIV.
X-com 1 isn't really in the same boat; the graphics are 640x480, and the audio is perfect, so a younger player could still enjoy it to a degree.
As to focusing on creativity, yeah, this isn't that. this was an attempt to argue what I thought the gaming industry SHOULD be doing if they aren't going to release new and interesting games, they should take the tried-and-true can-not-be-improved-upon classics, and update them to modern video and audio standards.
Step 1: Make sure he doesn't have a pacemaker.
Step 2: Take your Microwave Oven apart.
Step 3: Using the existing waveguides as an example, fashion one that will fit on the feed horn of the Magnetron that is about 3'/1m long; it will need to be metal and the surfaces will need to be as close to flat as possible.
Step 4: set it up at the edge of your property closest to the Mosquito device, with the outlet of the wave guide pointing directly at the device.
Step 5: Knock on your neighbors door and Politely inform them they are disturbing your peace within your home, and that you will sue them if they do not desist.
Step 6:???
Step 7: Profit?
I sort of like Railroad tycoon II, but I would have REALLY liked a patch to the original that just updated the graphics, so I know what you mean. The gameplay really could not be improved on.
I'd also like to see a "Modern Graphics" patch for Colonization, and would easily shell out $30 for it.
If you are in the industry, answer me this: Why hasn't someone taken Master of Magic, updated the graphics, and re-released it?
Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic was a decent attempt at cloning it, but surely whoever owns the copyright to the original could stand to make a few million dollars by JUST UPDATING THE GRAPHICS?
Same thing goes for X-com (or UFO: Enemy Unknown depending on your continent).
The only "true classic" PC game that this has happened to is Transport Tycoon (Locomotion) and it didn't really even need it; Chris Sawyer wrote it in assembly.
I never put anything on a CD that might somehow get on the lens.
Pledge works pretty good, but I'll try pouring simmering water over them, first; IME it's the dust and crap trapped in the scratches that cause the laser to fail to read the data, get rid of that and you are go for a CloneCD session.
The most extreme solution I tried was the plastic scratch protectors; put a very small amount of vegetable oil on the CD evenly, then put on the scratch protector; as long as the CD is clean clean clean before you put the oil on, and the top isn't scratched, it'll read once, guaranteed.
"Stuff that matters"
I'm a Nerd. Reports that detail the increasingly terroristic methods employed by the police interest me; there is also the misuse of technology, i.e. the DNA test; what exactly was the point in that?
I can see a problem with desensitizing (is that a word?) the issue; if every little abuse by The Man is blown up for everyone to see, then normal sheeple will get tired of seeing it and tune it out; It would be in the best interest of Sheep everywhere possibly if only the really blatant stuff was screamed about.
True. It should obviously have the +5 funny, although most people probably would not get sarcasm that deeply layered.
The Paint and special equipment in the article can be thought of as first generation equipment; there is little doubt the technical hurdles requiring the paint or bulky equipment will go away in time.
There is no reason a decent hi-res multi-angle view of someone could not do the same thing, given enough refinement to the software and processing horsepower.
Not unless that is what they are going to use to render the tentacle porn; it IS a Japanese Supercomputer, after all.
Y'know, I have a feeling I should really post this as anonymous coward.
something I would like to say.
I've always looked on laws as intended to be a sort of codified morality; The problem i've seen with police behavior in my lifetime is that they have gone from being "guardians of the peace" to "enforcers of the code".
They are not, in the slightest, encouraged to be public servants; they are indoctrinated from day one that we are the unwashed masses, and they are the watchdogs.
In your example citing hidden police being more effective, I agree; but when I was growing up in the 70's and 80's, that was the example used to show how we were superior to the Soviets; Our police/government were held accountable for their actions.
Hmm. your statements made me want to reply on how wrong I think you are, but my lack of sleep keeps me from stringing the concepts together; I guess I'll quit.