okay, here we go again. WHAT ARE THE GAPING GODDAMN HOLES?? Please share them with me, as no one has even tried to as of yet. Once again you are attacking a straw man. Sky is green, grass is blue? Give me a break.
Has ANYONE involved refuted them by suggesting alternate explainations? (ie the white house?) NO?
The best and only counter-arguments (if you could call them that) i have heard have been: a) Yeah, well Michael Moore is overweight! b) This is all lies. I can't prove it, discuss it, refute them or offer alternative explainations, but lies is what they are.
Among this guy's rediculous suggestions, he says users at home have no need for DNS and DHCP client services to be running. How in holy hell are people supposed to get on the net??
MMORPGs can't use an engine like this, due to dynamic loading (areas can't have a static list of textures when people could come in wearing all sorts of things). Also (and more importantly) imagine a room full of 300+ characters within the doom3 engine. Yikes!
Sure there is enough bandwidth, up here in Alberta both Shaw Cable and soon Telus (over ADSL - POTS no less!) are both offering video on demand. Shaw has been offering it for almost 2 years now (I worked there 2 years ago and got to play with the pilot... at the time you had to operate it from a PC web interface because the set-top boxes didn't support it yet. Now they do.)
I'm not trying to bring up the whole desensitization issue here, just saying that removing blood and not violence is sort of strange, as blood in and of itself is not a bad thing. Sort of like sex without violence isn't a bad thing.
again though - blood is bad, but violence is okay? I'd say removing the blood is like removing the consequences... watching someone die from a bullet should be rightfully horrifying (blood and all), not gratuitous and fantasy-like. That's MORE dangerous.
Well, I'm in Calgary, Alberta (Canada), and I went opening night but couldn't get in because the film was sold out. And I live in the conservative part of Canada. The fact is, getting rid of Bush is important to the safety and future of the entire world.
Haven't found a CD yet I couldn't copy with Exact Audio Copy, although secure mode doesn't work with Cactus DataShield version 2, you have to use burst mode.
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at LAME 3.96 --alt-preset standard (average ~200kbps for perceptually transparent music), I can get roughly 300 CDs onto about 15 GB, so about 1200 CDs is your answer I guess. That's a lot, but not unheard of.
So you're saying that someone could hear the flaws in Vorbis, say "oooh those are the beautiful sounds of Vorbis fucking up this recording!" and then vote for Vorbis even though it totally broke down on it (and identified itself)?
Well, I suppose someone could be that irrational:)
Compression artifacts are more audible on headphones, but neigh any set will do just fine provided a quiet listening environment.
You my friend are a victim of placebo. Go to Hydrogen Audio and perform some double-blind analysis on yourself. You'll find that anything over LAME --preset standard (roughly 192kbps VBR) sounds exactly the same on any equipment.
The r3mix tuning (--r3mix), while a small step forward, was inherently flawed because of his insistance on tuning based on pictures instead of acual listening tests. As a result, the --dm-presets were invented and improved by Dibrom (the HydrogenAudio founder) along with a multitude of testers. eventually those were included in LAME as the --alt-presets (and in the latest version they just replace the normal --presets). In short, Hydrogen Audio is THE place to go for this stuff now.
most encoders reach perceptual transparency at around 160 (MPC) to 190 (MP3) kbps. At these bitrates even the most trained listeners can't tell the damn difference on 99.999% of samples. Of course, audiophiles are the most succeptible group of people in the world to placebo, so they probably "think" they can hear it.
They chose a 128kbps test because it's easier for untrained ears to hear the differences. As it is, the results will probably not be statistically valid. Hydrogen Audio has compared LAME --alt-preset standard with MPC --standard et al, and the differences are so hard to tell that even trained listeners have trouble.
sort of - a simple sine wave can be reproduced perfectly (ie no loss at all) at any frequency less than 1/2 the sampling rate. Its only when you start messing with complex waveforms that quantization noise comes into play.
A good psychoacoustic encoder will generate spectral graphs that look nothing like the source, because they threw all sorts of inaudible stuff away. The tuning of audio based on visual information is flawed, yet strangely prevelant (like in the LAME --r3mix setting). We don't look at music, man! We hear it!
it's double-blind, so you don't know what you're testing. Good gear has practically no bearing on identifying compression artifacts - that you need good equipment to hear slight imperfections is a myth.
While I think the Pentium-M is an excellent CPU, let's not forget that it is essentially just a Pentium III with a quad bus, lots of cache and SSE2 instructions.
Furthermore, the P3 is just a Pentium Pro with MMX, SSE and on-die L2 cache.
A little retro? Seems strange that the future is in a P6 architecture. Maybe when these get too hot we'll move to a massive array of 486s.
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What the hell are you talking about?? We're TALKING about Paul Vixie!
okay, here we go again. WHAT ARE THE GAPING GODDAMN HOLES?? Please share them with me, as no one has even tried to as of yet. Once again you are attacking a straw man. Sky is green, grass is blue? Give me a break.
not to mention vixie cron (vcron).
Has ANYONE involved refuted them by suggesting alternate explainations? (ie the white house?) NO?
The best and only counter-arguments (if you could call them that) i have heard have been:
a) Yeah, well Michael Moore is overweight!
b) This is all lies. I can't prove it, discuss it, refute them or offer alternative explainations, but lies is what they are.
Among this guy's rediculous suggestions, he says users at home have no need for DNS and DHCP client services to be running. How in holy hell are people supposed to get on the net??
I can't believe they published this bullshit.
virtual reality is so 1991.
MMORPGs can't use an engine like this, due to dynamic loading (areas can't have a static list of textures when people could come in wearing all sorts of things). Also (and more importantly) imagine a room full of 300+ characters within the doom3 engine. Yikes!
Sure there is enough bandwidth, up here in Alberta both Shaw Cable and soon Telus (over ADSL - POTS no less!) are both offering video on demand. Shaw has been offering it for almost 2 years now (I worked there 2 years ago and got to play with the pilot... at the time you had to operate it from a PC web interface because the set-top boxes didn't support it yet. Now they do.)
I'm not trying to bring up the whole desensitization issue here, just saying that removing blood and not violence is sort of strange, as blood in and of itself is not a bad thing. Sort of like sex without violence isn't a bad thing.
again though - blood is bad, but violence is okay? I'd say removing the blood is like removing the consequences... watching someone die from a bullet should be rightfully horrifying (blood and all), not gratuitous and fantasy-like. That's MORE dangerous.
Well, I'm in Calgary, Alberta (Canada), and I went opening night but couldn't get in because the film was sold out. And I live in the conservative part of Canada. The fact is, getting rid of Bush is important to the safety and future of the entire world.
Haven't found a CD yet I couldn't copy with Exact Audio Copy, although secure mode doesn't work with Cactus DataShield version 2, you have to use burst mode.
at LAME 3.96 --alt-preset standard (average ~200kbps for perceptually transparent music), I can get roughly 300 CDs onto about 15 GB, so about 1200 CDs is your answer I guess. That's a lot, but not unheard of.
God, you people are antisocial
If this were Hydrogen Audio, you'd either have to back that up with statistically significant ABX results or this thread would be closed :)
So you're saying that someone could hear the flaws in Vorbis, say "oooh those are the beautiful sounds of Vorbis fucking up this recording!" and then vote for Vorbis even though it totally broke down on it (and identified itself)?
:)
Well, I suppose someone could be that irrational
Myth.
Compression artifacts are more audible on headphones, but neigh any set will do just fine provided a quiet listening environment.
You my friend are a victim of placebo. Go to Hydrogen Audio and perform some double-blind analysis on yourself. You'll find that anything over LAME --preset standard (roughly 192kbps VBR) sounds exactly the same on any equipment.
The r3mix tuning (--r3mix), while a small step forward, was inherently flawed because of his insistance on tuning based on pictures instead of acual listening tests. As a result, the --dm-presets were invented and improved by Dibrom (the HydrogenAudio founder) along with a multitude of testers. eventually those were included in LAME as the --alt-presets (and in the latest version they just replace the normal --presets). In short, Hydrogen Audio is THE place to go for this stuff now.
most encoders reach perceptual transparency at around 160 (MPC) to 190 (MP3) kbps. At these bitrates even the most trained listeners can't tell the damn difference on 99.999% of samples. Of course, audiophiles are the most succeptible group of people in the world to placebo, so they probably "think" they can hear it.
They chose a 128kbps test because it's easier for untrained ears to hear the differences. As it is, the results will probably not be statistically valid. Hydrogen Audio has compared LAME --alt-preset standard with MPC --standard et al, and the differences are so hard to tell that even trained listeners have trouble.
sort of - a simple sine wave can be reproduced perfectly (ie no loss at all) at any frequency less than 1/2 the sampling rate. Its only when you start messing with complex waveforms that quantization noise comes into play.
A good psychoacoustic encoder will generate spectral graphs that look nothing like the source, because they threw all sorts of inaudible stuff away. The tuning of audio based on visual information is flawed, yet strangely prevelant (like in the LAME --r3mix setting). We don't look at music, man! We hear it!
it's double-blind, so you don't know what you're testing. Good gear has practically no bearing on identifying compression artifacts - that you need good equipment to hear slight imperfections is a myth.
Keeping in mind recent movie trilogies about a moon-sized planet destroying battlestation, more security measures are needed, and fast
While I think the Pentium-M is an excellent CPU, let's not forget that it is essentially just a Pentium III with a quad bus, lots of cache and SSE2 instructions.
Furthermore, the P3 is just a Pentium Pro with MMX, SSE and on-die L2 cache.
A little retro? Seems strange that the future is in a P6 architecture. Maybe when these get too hot we'll move to a massive array of 486s.