>your biggest obstacle is overcoming the idea that open source is the realm of teenage hackers and unstable processes.
Just recently they (Firefox developers) argued how their secret of success lies in not having a bunch of bystanders but just a few very active developers.
A few weeks later it turns out that very model is the cause of their development difficulties.
That is hilarious! So which is it?
I'm writing this in FF and find it quite decent, although it does hang up more than IE, especially in PDF-related operations (I'm using it on both WinXP and Linux). Still, their development problems expose some weaknesses of community-based development and provide credulity to claims made by their closed source competitors.
>The fact that it is released under the LGPL means that there is nobody preventing you from integrating it with, say, Gnumeric, AbiWord, KOfffice, or even MS Office.
1) Coding it myself will never get it done 2) A commercial version of such integrating package would make me locked in again 3) OSS version of such package does not exist (yet).
> Welcome to reality: Microsoft shafts their users whenever they can, and the users shaft Microsoft back whenever they can too in turn. That's the name of the game.
The grandparent is a fucking idiot. If someone said FBI's job is to catch the terrorists, the terrorists' job is to nuke New York, would he feel the terrorists are just doing their job or that they're bad guys?
That way of thinking has been denounced in movies ages ago: "Their job is to catch us, our job is not to get caught" Curtis, in "Truth or Consequences, NM" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120383/
>As per your point regarding contracts, I can't argue since I have no knowledge, but I do believe my original point still holds.
I think about a year (or two) ago some resellers from California have class-sued Apple for (allegedly) blatant violations of those contracts. You can find details on Google (I think the news on this come in two waves - one from first lawsuits from two years ago, and a new one like http://www.tellonapple.org/).
Anyway, my point is that what you say is or may be true, but by agreeing to those contracts, they've comitted themselves to certain behavior and norms. It's still illegal to violate agreements, so even though what you say may be making sense, doing some of those things would be illegal. If they want to do their own thing, that is fine, but then they must wait till their current obligations expire, after which they can do whatever they please.
You can't tell people all right we'll do this-and-that throughout the next year, and them screw them over in the fifth month. You wait until the 11th month and let them know by written notice that you won't be continuing the relationship (pretty much every reseller agreement contains such provisions).
>That they aren't playing nice is a shame and something they should be fined for if they broke contracts, but I totally think that might not be a bad idea.
That's why I called "b" as I think there's nothing glorious about their business practices. You consider it may make business sense and that may be true, but image-wise this "Microsoft-like" (I don't know why this is supposed to be insulting or something but anyway) behavior is also going to damage their brand (which is hard to measure).
It's funny how Apple related comments never work out - most of my Apple-related posts here get modded trolls or flamebaits while brain-dead Microsoft-trashing is "interesting" or "insightful".... Or, to put it another way, when Apple does something Microsoft-like, it's good, when others do the same thing, it's bad.
> Contrary to your statement, Red Hat is the one of these offering a free download - Fedora. Downloading something current from the others (for AMD64) is harder/not possible.
Riiiight...
Folks, get a DVD or CD torrent download here: http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article. php?sto ryid=70
If that happens it won't be because of the OS they use. One can restrict access to only authorized IPs, detect spoofed IPs, encrypt the connection, allow only trusted connections, etc.
Any properly configured OS could protect from 99% of problems (and no OS is 100% secure).
>Again, think of it from a business perspective: Apple wants profit. If their resellers satisfied Apple's business needs, why would Apple waste money, effort, and resources opening up stores?
Bullshit. First, these guys have contacts in which it says clearly that Apple is not allowed to do some things they're doing (for example, provide reseller's customer list to their own local area store). Scum... Second, they're not wasting money (did anyone claim that or you just made it up to dramatize your point which doesn't really exist?) but investing in stealing top-of-the-line customers/markets/deals. During downturns they close them and become nicer to the channel, during upturns they fuck over their partners.
>Look at the business landscape and tell me that the resellers actually helped Apple; and if they did, do they help more than Apple's own stores?
By your own rethoric, then why would apple "waste time" having those resellers at all?
> I don't doubt there do exist the odd excellent reseller, but I don't think you can deny there exist a rash of bad outlets either.
Complaints do not originate only from bad outlets but from many outlets, which probably means it's all kinds of resellers being treated unfairly. "Bad" outlets can have their contracts terminated at discretion of Apple (if they run those outlets the way you describe). If "bad" outlets were elminated that way, I don't think anyone could/would complain.
I have an Athlon 1.7GHz Shuttle PC. They do look cute (and work quite fine) but if you like to fsck around with hardware - upgrade, expand, etc. - better get a bigger box. Shuttle has a new line of boxes - much more expandable - and that's what I'm gonna get myself for X'mas. I don't know what extras Mac Mini can put inside, but I'm afraid not much.
What kind of bullshit is this? The submitter has no clue about Linux in Asia, but then again, that's why we have editors (perhaps replacing one of current editors... oh well)
a) Linux I18N still sucks (you don't need Unicode support on a DHCP server, but still) so it's not like they're not using Debian because they like Windows (or Red Hat).
b) Everyone knows what kind of user base Debian has - it's certainly not "enterprise". Academic, department, small & medium enterprises, individuals - yes. Enterprises - no. Which is why there are other distros that do what enterprises require (certifications, commercial vendor backing, alliances, etc.) so it's pointless to push Debian to those who don't want it. Good luck, though.
c) Why would enterprise users buy support from these guys? Debian is by users and for users - as much as I'd like them to succeed, I don't see what diff will their efforts make in light of low-cost enterprise Linux clones like CentOS (not to mention decent low-cost commercial distros like Mandrake, Turbolinux, etc.).
>Money would be better spent on RAID, rather than dual core or dual processor.
You're right about that.
Unlike CPUs which become worthless in less than 2 years, RAID h/w last a bit longer.
Some five years ago I bought an Ultra2Wide SCSI 320 card and a (at the time big) 8GB HDD - I paid $400 for the card and $250 for the HDD.
I still use the card - I haven't checked but it should be as fast as SATA II I guess - and the SCSI disk works too (although it's quite useless - I use it as dedicated swap disk).
In the meantime I went thru 3-4 generations of motherboards and CPUs (consecutive 100% wipeouts) and my RAID stuff still rocks...
By year's end I'll go not for a dual core CPU system but for what's today top of the line nForce4 system. Screw the hype.
Unlike with news, I don't want to read reviews just from anyone. I mean, even though some XYZ reviewer that I don't like reviewed some movie first, I don't give a damn.
I only enjoy reading Filthy's reviews: http://www.bigempire.com/filthy/
Well I can tell you small is cute but once you want to upgrade, those little boxes like Mini are dead end. I have an older ("cute") Athlon/Shuttle box - it looks great but it can hold only one 3.5" disk. I mean - that sucks but it's great for people who like cute tiny boxes that look nice.
I like the way it looks, so I think I'll buy another Shuttle (it's been quite stable too) but this time I'll go for this new sucker which has space for more than one HDDs: http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/shuttl e-sn25p/index.x?pg=3
> Specifically, I want to make sure that I can record DVDs or similar files of any program I want off of cable, sattelite (sic!) or broadcast TV
Is that fair use? "Any program I want" - doesn't sound very compromising and regardful of possible copyrights and restrictions on recording of broadcasts... I'd wish you luck but I can't feel simpathy for you.
FYI, in very near future people will not record but create playlists, that's all you'll need as you will be able to play whatever you want right off the network. Managing thousands of media files is insane and unnecessary.
That's all nice but I hate to be dependent on someone else's connection, even if they're redundant. (I leave my WLAN open to whoever wants to use it...)
Outside the range of my own WLAN I'd seriously consider ad-sponsored free WiFi service...
>Although we use MySQL's transactional InnoDB tables, they can still sometimes be left in an unrecoverable state. Attempting to bring up the master database and one of the slaves immediately after the downtime showed corruption in parts of the database.
Well this is just great PR for mySQL.
(To DBA: have you guys ever heard of the replicating feature?)
>Yes, but even Gmail's scanners can be confused by encrypting the attachment
It's not confused and it's not only them - any encrypted Zip, Office or such file causes anti-virus software to make a choice - let it pass without scaning it, crack its protection and scan it, or block it right away.
>How do I know if I upgraded to a new Redhat version, their management won't turn around and say oh you wasted your time with that install!?
It's easy - use CentOS; if you don't like it, restore your backup.
0. Backup your OS and data 1. Uninstall redhat-release RPM 2. Install CentOS 3.4 (latest) yum and centos-release RPM 3. Import CentOS GPG key (see URL below) 4. Run "yum -y upgrade; reboot"
For a detailed explanation of RH9 to CentOS 3.1 upgrade and a more methodical approach suitable for production OS see: http://www.owlriver.com/tips/centos-31-ex-rh l-9/ If you get in any kind of trouble, post your errors to CentOS.org discussion forums.
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>your biggest obstacle is overcoming the idea that open source is the realm of teenage hackers and unstable processes.
Just recently they (Firefox developers) argued how their secret of success lies in not having a bunch of bystanders but just a few very active developers.
A few weeks later it turns out that very model is the cause of their development difficulties.
That is hilarious!
So which is it?
I'm writing this in FF and find it quite decent, although it does hang up more than IE, especially in PDF-related operations
(I'm using it on both WinXP and Linux).
Still, their development problems expose some weaknesses of community-based development and provide credulity to claims made by their closed source competitors.
>The fact that it is released under the LGPL means that there is nobody preventing you from integrating it with, say, Gnumeric, AbiWord, KOfffice, or even MS Office.
1) Coding it myself will never get it done
2) A commercial version of such integrating package would make me locked in again
3) OSS version of such package does not exist (yet).
Hence, StarBasic does demonstrate "lock-in".
>If you can't figure out how to send that over a slow connection, you aren't thinking hard enough.
What if a 20MB RAS-related security update were to be required on all ATMs?
Wouldn't faster lines be needed for this and similar situations?
> Welcome to reality: Microsoft shafts their users whenever they can, and the users shaft Microsoft back whenever they can too in turn. That's the name of the game.
The grandparent is a fucking idiot.
If someone said FBI's job is to catch the terrorists, the terrorists' job is to nuke New York, would he feel the terrorists are just doing their job or that they're bad guys?
That way of thinking has been denounced in movies ages ago:
"Their job is to catch us, our job is not to get caught"
Curtis, in "Truth or Consequences, NM"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120383/
>As per your point regarding contracts, I can't argue since I have no knowledge, but I do believe my original point still holds.
I think about a year (or two) ago some resellers from California have class-sued Apple for (allegedly) blatant violations of those contracts.
You can find details on Google (I think the news on this come in two waves - one from first lawsuits from two years ago, and a new one like http://www.tellonapple.org/).
Anyway, my point is that what you say is or may be true, but by agreeing to those contracts, they've comitted themselves to certain behavior and norms.
It's still illegal to violate agreements, so even though what you say may be making sense, doing some of those things would be illegal. If they want to do their own thing, that is fine, but then they must wait till their current obligations expire, after which they can do whatever they please.
You can't tell people all right we'll do this-and-that throughout the next year, and them screw them over in the fifth month.
You wait until the 11th month and let them know by written notice that you won't be continuing the relationship (pretty much every reseller agreement contains such provisions).
>That they aren't playing nice is a shame and something they should be fined for if they broke contracts, but I totally think that might not be a bad idea.
That's why I called "b" as I think there's nothing glorious about their business practices.
You consider it may make business sense and that may be true, but image-wise this "Microsoft-like" (I don't know why this is supposed to be insulting or something but anyway) behavior is also going to damage their brand (which is hard to measure).
It's funny how Apple related comments never work out - most of my Apple-related posts here get modded trolls or flamebaits while brain-dead Microsoft-trashing is "interesting" or "insightful".... Or, to put it another way, when Apple does something Microsoft-like, it's good, when others do the same thing, it's bad.
> Contrary to your statement, Red Hat is the one of these offering a free download - Fedora. Downloading something current from the others (for AMD64) is harder/not possible.
. php?sto ryid=70
Riiiight...
Folks, get a DVD or CD torrent download here:
http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article
If that happens it won't be because of the OS they use. One can restrict access to only authorized IPs, detect spoofed IPs, encrypt the connection, allow only trusted connections, etc.
Any properly configured OS could protect from 99% of problems (and no OS is 100% secure).
>Again, think of it from a business perspective: Apple wants profit. If their resellers satisfied Apple's business needs, why would Apple waste money, effort, and resources opening up stores?
Bullshit.
First, these guys have contacts in which it says clearly that Apple is not allowed to do some things they're doing (for example, provide reseller's customer list to their own local area store). Scum...
Second, they're not wasting money (did anyone claim that or you just made it up to dramatize your point which doesn't really exist?) but investing in stealing top-of-the-line customers/markets/deals.
During downturns they close them and become nicer to the channel, during upturns they fuck over their partners.
>Look at the business landscape and tell me that the resellers actually helped Apple; and if they did, do they help more than Apple's own stores?
By your own rethoric, then why would apple "waste time" having those resellers at all?
> I don't doubt there do exist the odd excellent reseller, but I don't think you can deny there exist a rash of bad outlets either.
Complaints do not originate only from bad outlets but from many outlets, which probably means it's all kinds of resellers being treated unfairly.
"Bad" outlets can have their contracts terminated at discretion of Apple (if they run those outlets the way you describe). If "bad" outlets were elminated that way, I don't think anyone could/would complain.
>Not that viruses are the central focus they once were.
Then why would Sym's patent(s) be important anyway?
I didn't say TFA article is clueless, I said the submitter of the news is - the way he explained/understood TFA.
I have an Athlon 1.7GHz Shuttle PC.
They do look cute (and work quite fine) but if you like to fsck around with hardware - upgrade, expand, etc. - better get a bigger box.
Shuttle has a new line of boxes - much more expandable - and that's what I'm gonna get myself for X'mas.
I don't know what extras Mac Mini can put inside, but I'm afraid not much.
What kind of bullshit is this? ... oh well)
The submitter has no clue about Linux in Asia, but then again, that's why we have editors (perhaps replacing one of current editors
a) Linux I18N still sucks (you don't need Unicode support on a DHCP server, but still) so it's not like they're not using Debian because they like Windows (or Red Hat).
b) Everyone knows what kind of user base Debian has - it's certainly not "enterprise". Academic, department, small & medium enterprises, individuals - yes. Enterprises - no.
Which is why there are other distros that do what enterprises require (certifications, commercial vendor backing, alliances, etc.) so it's pointless to push Debian to those who don't want it. Good luck, though.
c) Why would enterprise users buy support from these guys? Debian is by users and for users - as much as I'd like them to succeed, I don't see what diff will their efforts make in light of low-cost enterprise Linux clones like CentOS (not to mention decent low-cost commercial distros like Mandrake, Turbolinux, etc.).
>Sun Storms Deplete Ozone, Too
/. without Microsoft or Sun (as in this case) bashing!
I just knew it - not a single day cannot pass here on
> Mandrakiva ?
Condrake!
>Money would be better spent on RAID, rather than dual core or dual processor.
You're right about that.
Unlike CPUs which become worthless in less than 2 years, RAID h/w last a bit longer.
Some five years ago I bought an Ultra2Wide SCSI 320 card and a (at the time big) 8GB HDD - I paid $400 for the card and $250 for the HDD.
I still use the card - I haven't checked but it should be as fast as SATA II I guess - and the SCSI disk works too (although it's quite useless - I use it as dedicated swap disk).
In the meantime I went thru 3-4 generations of motherboards and CPUs (consecutive 100% wipeouts) and my RAID stuff still rocks...
By year's end I'll go not for a dual core CPU system but for what's today top of the line nForce4 system. Screw the hype.
Unlike with news, I don't want to read reviews just from anyone. I mean, even though some XYZ reviewer that I don't like reviewed some movie first, I don't give a damn.
I only enjoy reading Filthy's reviews:
http://www.bigempire.com/filthy/
Well I can tell you small is cute but once you want to upgrade, those little boxes like Mini are dead end.
l e-sn25p /index.x?pg=3
I have an older ("cute") Athlon/Shuttle box - it looks great but it can hold only one 3.5" disk. I mean - that sucks but it's great for people who like cute tiny boxes that look nice.
I like the way it looks, so I think I'll buy another Shuttle (it's been quite stable too) but this time I'll go for this new sucker which has space for more than one HDDs:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/shutt
> Specifically, I want to make sure that I can record DVDs or similar files of any program I want off of cable, sattelite (sic!) or broadcast TV
Is that fair use?
"Any program I want" - doesn't sound very compromising and regardful of possible copyrights and restrictions on recording of broadcasts...
I'd wish you luck but I can't feel simpathy for you.
FYI, in very near future people will not record but create playlists, that's all you'll need as you will be able to play whatever you want right off the network.
Managing thousands of media files is insane and unnecessary.
May I dock my Treo in your cradle?
Do you mind if I put my mouse on your palm?
Can I plug my peripheral into your box?
etc. etc.
That's all nice but I hate to be dependent on someone else's connection, even if they're redundant. (I leave my WLAN open to whoever wants to use it...)
Outside the range of my own WLAN I'd seriously consider ad-sponsored free WiFi service...
Losing one circuit is misfortune.
Losing both is carelesness.
>Although we use MySQL's transactional InnoDB tables, they can still sometimes be left in an unrecoverable state. Attempting to bring up the master database and one of the slaves immediately after the downtime showed corruption in parts of the database.
Well this is just great PR for mySQL.
(To DBA: have you guys ever heard of the replicating feature?)
>Yes, but even Gmail's scanners can be confused by encrypting the attachment
It's not confused and it's not only them - any encrypted Zip, Office or such file causes anti-virus software to make a choice - let it pass without scaning it, crack its protection and scan it, or block it right away.
What's worse, the first-posted article can be seen in "Related Links" on the right. If they only looked at the screen.
Stupid stoners... Do they actually get paid for randomly clicking buttons in their browsers?
It's time to get rid of the weakest link and automatically carry Google-News-Science & Tech stories...
>How do I know if I upgraded to a new Redhat version, their management won't turn around and say oh you wasted your time with that install!?
h l-9/
It's easy - use CentOS; if you don't like it, restore your backup.
0. Backup your OS and data
1. Uninstall redhat-release RPM
2. Install CentOS 3.4 (latest) yum and centos-release RPM
3. Import CentOS GPG key (see URL below)
4. Run "yum -y upgrade; reboot"
For a detailed explanation of RH9 to CentOS 3.1 upgrade and a more methodical approach suitable for production OS see:
http://www.owlriver.com/tips/centos-31-ex-r
If you get in any kind of trouble, post your errors to CentOS.org discussion forums.