in many forms of early BASIC GOTO was necessary, case in point many conditionals were limited to a single line (IF THEN statements) and if you had code that could not fit in that line you needed to use a GOTO to skip over the code. You could have hacked it in with a GOSUB, but it starts looking more like spaghetti code on top of poor formatting of line number BASIC.
Moving past BASIC to C, other languages, you had lest restrictive syntax limitations so GOTOs are not necessary anymore.
That's OK, with all the IP laws and SOPA in place, everyone will be happily employed by retail/computer/internet/entertainment/mining industries or that's how the lobbyists portray America's future.
Microsoft is threatened by Linux being able to boot other OSs means that folks could boot Linux, and when running in Linux they could run WINE and then access x86 applications that Windows 8 ARM cannot. Besides the potential compatibility I am sure MS is going to face tough competition on a slim hardware platform where Linux/Android and other open OSs can out-innovate on it as a community better then MS can (think kinect there).
MS knows the Win8 ARM is going to be a tough sell and they don't want their low-end hardware ARM (converted to Linux, operating as a more robust OS) devices to compete with the more lucrative win8 x86/64 devices because even if it is not well received consumers (lets not use the term customers, locking the device to a single OS makes the devices throw-away) will have no choice to buy a better unit, and hopefully it will be a full power Win8 tablet, notebook or desktop.
Unfortunately Quanta Plus is dying from neglect. the current full version 3.5 was coded for KDE3 and as of Ubuntu 11.10 has been dropped from ther repositories.
Quanta 4 has been locked in development beta for years with out much support to bring what is done out in a stable form. And also it is not the same Quanta as 3 as it has become a module of the Kdevelop4 platform, so I am unsure whether WYSIWYG support still exists.
Yeah, I too really like Quanta Plus, but whit it becoming harder to get with new Linux distributions I have to look for alternatives. What I would like to see is someone update 3.5 to work with 4 libraries, because it had so much great functionality and features.
Having used their hosting services, I'd be surprised if they could offer anything that would minimally verge on competition, except the part about them owning the wires too. Their hosting servers were abysmal, email sucked and IIRC then - it was cleartext passwords for email accounts. Unless they significantly added/fostered talent in the systems administration I don't think buying themselves into the market will help.
And the Commodore 64 community is still far from dead.
There are several hardware projects in active development on the C64 - including a few forms of solid state and HD mass storage (IDE64, SD2IEC, 1541 Ultimate, MMC64, EasyFlash), Internet connectivity (The Final Ethernet/Retro Replay), Commodore in the cloud (commodoreserver.com), hardware accelerators/enhancements (Turbo Chameleon 64).
Besides many of the mas storage mediums being cross-platform usable, there are a few conversion methods to get files to/from the C64 (ZoomFloppy, x1541 cables and utilities, and commodore server are two notable ones)
Programming continues on the 64, including stock c64 demos (the demo coder are still amazing us with what they can crank out of a 1Mgz 64), GEOS related productivity, music, and most notably games. For the game users there are now popular 4 player adapters that games have been developed and a couple involving Playstation controls (the guitar heroish Shredz64 comes to mind)
If developers want the luxury of a modern computer there are cross assemblers (i.e. xa 6502) and now also a textBASIC conversion utility: C64List
Regional commodore gatherings are not uncommon in North America (Commodore Vegas Expo, C4 Commodore Expo, Emergency Chicagoland Commodore Convention, TPUG World of Commodore Expo) as well as Europe and other parts around the globe (someone comment with a list of those) which includes those cool demo scene parties
If you are a Linux person think of the store like a commercial+ software repository, where you can buy and then download/install via the internet, and if it is a perfect world you will be pushed timely updates on what you bought, so things don't break due to incompatibility. This does include full blown commercial programs, and all the restrictions that come with them (if not more as it is internet delivered/maintained.)
Some of the most obvious benefits:
a) can offer some cool software right at the get go (FOSS is a good bait, by slapping their corporate branding around the store -even if they do credit the creators- and people will start to assume that the company is responsible for those.) b) reduce cost in packaging/distributing said software - of course that also means less manuals, and physical media for backup purposes. c) get a piece of the commercial software pie from the publishers, through commissions, advertising, etc. d) control the market to make their system shine by influencing who gets seen on the first page, etc. e) Also with the draw to be the place to get software they can push their new products, and favor their stuff over the competition. f) have an inside track on innovative and trending technologies of 3rd party products that are doing well at your store. g) restrict unwanted access via through DRM or marketplace guidelines
Satire aside, A lot of skilled folks that made computers what they are today was thanks to Commodore computers in the home or school. Many folks have just have decided that they are still just as cool today.
There's always the Commodore Vegas Expo in July as well as several regional US and other world wide gatherings of Commodore and other classic computerists.
Closer to Canada would be the Emergency Chicagoland Commodore Convention (no listed 2012 date yet, There's one I think in Lousville KY in the spring, but cant find a link. And in the fall there's the AmiWest Expo in Sacramento for the Amigans out there.
Back in the 80s I did a Commodore 64 Christmas Disk for three years, one thing that was good about it is that I know everyone who I gave it to had a Commodore 64, and thus everything to use the disk. Now ids a different matter, you have people running potentially three platforms (Linux, Mac, Windows) with several versions as well as varying system specs. Not that FOSS software isn't a bad idea, I just hope you have time to support all those people you give it to as there will be issues depending on thier OS, and technical skills.
I have a better idea; A couple years ago I did that but included family photos, etc. stuff my family would be interested in regardless of the platform.
Besides photos, also think about video clips of the family and kids, and you can throw in PD or CC music , e-books, art, etc.
The company that sold you the DRM music get tired of paying for developers to maintain and optimize the DRM, pay for the DRM IP royalties, and tire of supporting disgruntled users with DRM issues... while the competition is "giving it away" and making pure profit without the DRM hassles. So they cut their losses and shut their DRM servers - with a consolation coupon toward 30% off the next Usher download.
Read that its not about you, or the artists, its about maximizing price/profit with their product.
That will ultimately be the downfall of all these IP laws being passes around the world. eventually companies/countries figure out they can't keep making money from it, because someone else will be doing it better than them. I figure the US is painting itself into a corner as most of the patents will start coming from developing countries and we are spending more to license overseas IP.
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Any chapters on finishing porting long overdue KDE 3 apps in there?
in many forms of early BASIC GOTO was necessary, case in point many conditionals were limited to a single line (IF THEN statements) and if you had code that could not fit in that line you needed to use a GOTO to skip over the code. You could have hacked it in with a GOSUB, but it starts looking more like spaghetti code on top of poor formatting of line number BASIC.
Moving past BASIC to C, other languages, you had lest restrictive syntax limitations so GOTOs are not necessary anymore.
That's OK, with all the IP laws and SOPA in place, everyone will be happily employed by retail/computer/internet/entertainment/mining industries or that's how the lobbyists portray America's future.
Microsoft is threatened by Linux being able to boot other OSs means that folks could boot Linux, and when running in Linux they could run WINE and then access x86 applications that Windows 8 ARM cannot. Besides the potential compatibility I am sure MS is going to face tough competition on a slim hardware platform where Linux/Android and other open OSs can out-innovate on it as a community better then MS can (think kinect there).
MS knows the Win8 ARM is going to be a tough sell and they don't want their low-end hardware ARM (converted to Linux, operating as a more robust OS) devices to compete with the more lucrative win8 x86/64 devices because even if it is not well received consumers (lets not use the term customers, locking the device to a single OS makes the devices throw-away) will have no choice to buy a better unit, and hopefully it will be a full power Win8 tablet, notebook or desktop.
Unfortunately Quanta Plus is dying from neglect. the current full version 3.5 was coded for KDE3 and as of Ubuntu 11.10 has been dropped from ther repositories.
Quanta 4 has been locked in development beta for years with out much support to bring what is done out in a stable form. And also it is not the same Quanta as 3 as it has become a module of the Kdevelop4 platform, so I am unsure whether WYSIWYG support still exists.
Yeah, I too really like Quanta Plus, but whit it becoming harder to get with new Linux distributions I have to look for alternatives. What I would like to see is someone update 3.5 to work with 4 libraries, because it had so much great functionality and features.
Microsoft Shell, has a good ring to it.
Having used their hosting services, I'd be surprised if they could offer anything that would minimally verge on competition, except the part about them owning the wires too. Their hosting servers were abysmal, email sucked and IIRC then - it was cleartext passwords for email accounts. Unless they significantly added/fostered talent in the systems administration I don't think buying themselves into the market will help.
And the Commodore 64 community is still far from dead.
There are several hardware projects in active development on the C64 - including a few forms of solid state and HD mass storage (IDE64, SD2IEC, 1541 Ultimate, MMC64, EasyFlash), Internet connectivity (The Final Ethernet/Retro Replay), Commodore in the cloud (commodoreserver.com), hardware accelerators/enhancements (Turbo Chameleon 64).
Besides many of the mas storage mediums being cross-platform usable, there are a few conversion methods to get files to/from the C64 (ZoomFloppy, x1541 cables and utilities, and commodore server are two notable ones)
Programming continues on the 64, including stock c64 demos (the demo coder are still amazing us with what they can crank out of a 1Mgz 64), GEOS related productivity, music, and most notably games. For the game users there are now popular 4 player adapters that games have been developed and a couple involving Playstation controls (the guitar heroish Shredz64 comes to mind)
If developers want the luxury of a modern computer there are cross assemblers (i.e. xa 6502) and now also a textBASIC conversion utility: C64List
Regional commodore gatherings are not uncommon in North America (Commodore Vegas Expo, C4 Commodore Expo, Emergency Chicagoland Commodore Convention, TPUG World of Commodore Expo) as well as Europe and other parts around the globe (someone comment with a list of those) which includes those cool demo scene parties
...Apple is an exception...
I think that sums up the story.
My sister had broke hers - one of the balls split in two, I don't recall what damage happened, I think it was on a down clack so it hit the carpet.
If you are a Linux person think of the store like a commercial+ software repository, where you can buy and then download/install via the internet, and if it is a perfect world you will be pushed timely updates on what you bought, so things don't break due to incompatibility. This does include full blown commercial programs, and all the restrictions that come with them (if not more as it is internet delivered/maintained.)
Some of the most obvious benefits:
a) can offer some cool software right at the get go (FOSS is a good bait, by slapping their corporate branding around the store -even if they do credit the creators- and people will start to assume that the company is responsible for those.)
b) reduce cost in packaging/distributing said software - of course that also means less manuals, and physical media for backup purposes.
c) get a piece of the commercial software pie from the publishers, through commissions, advertising, etc.
d) control the market to make their system shine by influencing who gets seen on the first page, etc.
e) Also with the draw to be the place to get software they can push their new products, and favor their stuff over the competition.
f) have an inside track on innovative and trending technologies of 3rd party products that are doing well at your store.
g) restrict unwanted access via through DRM or marketplace guidelines
The more you know thew worse off you are - cause it keeps you thinking about other things than the things you should be doing.
And so goes the cycle of tech. Disney should make a movie about it. :-)
Yeah, Mac fanboys, we were here first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaXVdwWuU-A
Satire aside, A lot of skilled folks that made computers what they are today was thanks to Commodore computers in the home or school. Many folks have just have decided that they are still just as cool today.
There's always the Commodore Vegas Expo in July as well as several regional US and other world wide gatherings of Commodore and other classic computerists.
Closer to Canada would be the Emergency Chicagoland Commodore Convention (no listed 2012 date yet, There's one I think in Lousville KY in the spring, but cant find a link. And in the fall there's the AmiWest Expo in Sacramento for the Amigans out there.
(that's all I can recall off the top of my head.)
Back to the VIC-20 and PET age - as the Commodore 64 debut was in 1982.
And you can't forget the quote about Yahoo during the last MSDN keynote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
...to vote out the 1%.
Back in the 80s I did a Commodore 64 Christmas Disk for three years, one thing that was good about it is that I know everyone who I gave it to had a Commodore 64, and thus everything to use the disk. Now ids a different matter, you have people running potentially three platforms (Linux, Mac, Windows) with several versions as well as varying system specs. Not that FOSS software isn't a bad idea, I just hope you have time to support all those people you give it to as there will be issues depending on thier OS, and technical skills.
I have a better idea; A couple years ago I did that but included family photos, etc. stuff my family would be interested in regardless of the platform.
Besides photos, also think about video clips of the family and kids, and you can throw in PD or CC music , e-books, art, etc.
Team Viewer? Supports Windows Mac and Linux.
Maybe it's your OS; did you try restarting your cable box?
The company that sold you the DRM music get tired of paying for developers to maintain and optimize the DRM, pay for the DRM IP royalties, and tire of supporting disgruntled users with DRM issues... while the competition is "giving it away" and making pure profit without the DRM hassles. So they cut their losses and shut their DRM servers - with a consolation coupon toward 30% off the next Usher download.
Read that its not about you, or the artists, its about maximizing price/profit with their product.
That will ultimately be the downfall of all these IP laws being passes around the world. eventually companies/countries figure out they can't keep making money from it, because someone else will be doing it better than them. I figure the US is painting itself into a corner as most of the patents will start coming from developing countries and we are spending more to license overseas IP.
Got it; signed out - then when I got to sign in on the petition it worked.
I'm getting it too, I'm signed in and when I get to it, it is requesting me sign in again, when I do it 404s...
IIRC Methamphetamine was used by Axis soldiers to keep energized for long periods such as combat...