Let's say you take a piece of paper and a pen from work home.
Using this, you write a letter to whomever.
Do you feel that your employer is allowed to read that letter?
I find not, do you argue, that it was not done during company time? There are many times during work that I think of non-related work items, or make a private call if necessary. I also do some research at home for work or have idea's that are work related.
There are 2 keywords here: 1) privacy: private matters should remain private 2) moderate use: you work at work and private matters you do in your private time, some times they mix up, but as long it's moderate there shouldn't be a problem.
it0@home:/tmp/virus/all$ clamscan /tmp/virus/all/109_virus_88.bin: OK /tmp/virus/all/018_q347558.exe: Worm.Gibe.F FOUND /tmp/virus/all/004_eicar.zip.bad_extension: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND /tmp/virus/all/016_patch-6143.zip: Trojan.Small-zippwd-17 FOUND /tmp/virus/all/011_abuselist.zip: Worm.SomeFool.P FOUND /tmp/virus/all/020_test.zip: Worm.Mytob.KT FOUND /tmp/virus/all/010_18_04_2005.exe: Worm.Bagle.ET FOUND /tmp/virus/all/107_Please-confirm-my-payment.eml: Trojan.Goldun.S-2 FOUND /tmp/virus/all/108_virus_87.bin: Trojan.Downloader-12155 FOUND /tmp/virus/all/110_vvzh.scr: Worm.Mydoom.AV FOUND /tmp/virus/all/001_eicarcom2.zip: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND /tmp/virus/all/115_untangle3.zip: OK /tmp/virus/all/002_eicar_com.zip: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND /tmp/virus/all/100_8.zip: Worm.Bagle.EI FOUND /tmp/virus/all/114_untangle22.zip-(07-08-08_01:24) : Trojan.Downloader.Small-3219 FOUND /tmp/virus/all/014_message.pif: Worm.Mytob.Crypt.Gen FOUND /tmp/virus/all/103_Update-KB8156-x86.exe: Worm.Stration.JH FOUND /tmp/virus/all/106_Info.exe: Worm.Bagle.Y FOUND /tmp/virus/all/015_mntrup.exe: Trojan.Downloader.Delmed-2 FOUND /tmp/virus/all/116_untangle4.zip: OK /tmp/virus/all/000_eicar.com: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND /tmp/virus/all/017_photo.pif: Worm.SomeFool.P FOUND /tmp/virus/all/102_Syndony.zip: Worm.Bagle.CD-1 FOUND /tmp/virus/all/105_image.jpg.exe: Trojan.Dropper.Small.UU FOUND /tmp/virus/all/019_scan_check.jpg.exe: Trojan.Goldun.S-2 FOUND /tmp/virus/all/113_untangle21.zip: W32.Philis-232 FOUND /tmp/virus/all/012_fullstory.exe: Trojan.Downloader-647 FOUND /tmp/virus/all/111_xxx.com: Trojan.Spy-6766 FOUND /tmp/virus/all/013_image.jpg.exe: Trojan.Dropper.Small.UU FOUND /tmp/virus/all/021_The_taxation.zip: Worm.Bagle.FO FOUND /tmp/virus/all/003_eicar.rar: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND /tmp/virus/all/104_Attachment.scr: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND /tmp/virus/all/112_untangle1.zip: OK /tmp/virus/all/101_scan.jpg: Trojan.Spy.Goldun.N-unp FOUND
----------- SCAN SUMMARY ----------- Known viruses: 142800 Engine version: 0.91.1 Scanned directories: 1 Scanned files: 34 Infected files: 30 Data scanned: 7.08 MB Time: 5.890 sec (0 m 5 s)
Better results, but still the zipfiles with password couldn't be checked.
I have bitdefender running on my system
it0@home:/tmp/virus$ bdc all/*
BDC/Linux-Console v7.1 (build 2559) (i386) (Jul 6 2005 16:28:53)
Copyright (C) 1996-2004 SOFTWIN SRL. All rights reserved.
112_untangle1.zip Contains password, therefore cannot be checked
113_untangle21.zip Correctly identified when first manually unzipped, strange because BDC can check inside zips
114_untangle22.zip-(07-08-08_01:24) Correctly identified when first manually unzipped, strange because BDC can check inside zips
115_untangle3.zip Contains password, therefore cannot be checked
116_untangle4.zip Contains password, therefore cannot be checked
"Masquerading as officials from ExxonMobil and the U.S. National Petroleum Council, the two appeared before an oil industry audience and the buzz was that they would deliver long-awaited conclusions of a study commissioned by U.S. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman."
The isp killed the site, not Exxon, they just filed a complaint.
I can imagine that Exxon's logo's are protected by trademark etc, but I think they still can be used for parody. However, I guess the initial site looked like a real Exxon site, and it wasn't apparent that it was a parody, looks like a legitimate reason for Exxon to complain.
Still what "threats" did they make, I so no copy of an email or letter.
After the Yes men removed the logo's and made it clear it was a parody, the ISP still blocked it.
Has Exxon contacted the Yes men directly? Or vice versa, the article mentions nothing.
Also if you are worried about the 150.000 deaths, don't use oil, except it's used in everything, even lubricant for windmills...
There is a good reason for supporting Postscript. I have a apple 16/600 PS laserwriter which supports Postscript level 2 , has a parallel and UTP connection(via converter). Works on all os's. All os's have driver support for it. Why because it talks postscript. More processing power is needed??? this is 2007, chips cost next to nothing
Does 16 pages @600DPI per minute. Which for home is more then enough. Inside is made of ME-TAL, so it will probably outlife me.
In the netherlands it's okay to download music, video and books but not proprietary software.
The difference is that music, video and books are seen as form of art and should reach as many people as possible but also should be available in years to come, that's the general idea.
How can a scientist be al for censoring?? That said, all the manipulation, lobbying,etc against known facts should be stopped. So I guess they want to fight corruption with censorship... only in the USA...
What if the cameras are only there to watch for criminal activity? What if all other activity is disregarded? Does it make you pause to think that maybe you're a tad paranoid?
The kind of slippery slope argument you're using here works both ways. Yes, cameras can be abused. But what if they aren't being abused and never will be?
Because in the end we are dealing with humans.
In the netherlands we have a policy that if there hasn't happened anything within X time then all the material needs to be destroyed.
The material can only be accessed by police officers.
I would say there is little to no corruption in the netherlands but after investigating 30 cities it turned out that the above 2 rules in most of them were not followed.
Next to that there are some more disadvantages:
* Crime does not disappear, it just moves to where there are no camera's
* When there are camera's everywhere, why should you care about crime, somebody else is taking care of it.
* What about the future with face recognition, etc. You are standing too long in one place, etc.
* Also new laws/city ordanances are introduced like you are not allowed to wear a mask, else the camera system will not work, i.e. you cannot be recognised. However since you have done nothing wrong why do you have to identified? In the netherlands we are required to carry identification but we only have to show it when we are suspect of something with a clear reason!!!
That isn't such a big statement. he is just saying, without rules , or without obeying rules there would be chaos/anarchy. Still no comment if he would find that violence was justified, it's only implied.
a young Arab male with a backpack being belligerent in a crowded place
I guess in a library or at campus it's always crowded.
I guess all the students wear backpacks
I guess since it's a university it's normal to have foreign students or at least have students of different etnic groups.
So he didn't have his bruinid, what is that ? In dutch bruin means brown, so is that like a star jews had in WW II? It's not so hard to imagine for various reasons that you don't have your ID with you.
Clearly he was not cooperating because he felt his rights being stepped on.
For some reason it seems very normal to you to use force when you can't work it out verbally.
And that is why computers have a hard time understanding human written text, spoken text is even worse.
Humans know the context, so I would know that in a third world country when that person lives in the dessert and is lucky if he can eat some bugs cannot produce 11 kg worth of trash.
Slashdot Mirror
Just google for it?
http://www.google.com/search?q=pos+linux
First hit seems nice
http://www.bananahead.com/pos/home.html
You know it doesn't hurt to do some research.
No it does not.
I like the following example.
Let's say you take a piece of paper and a pen from work home.
Using this, you write a letter to whomever.
Do you feel that your employer is allowed to read that letter?
I find not, do you argue, that it was not done during company time? There are many times during work that I think of non-related work items, or make a private call if necessary. I also do some research at home for work or have idea's that are work related.
There are 2 keywords here:
1) privacy: private matters should remain private
2) moderate use: you work at work and private matters you do in your private time, some times they mix up, but as long it's moderate there shouldn't be a problem.
If they like engineers so much, perhaps they are just interested in the X-prize.
It was on the news recently that they were shooting elephants because their population has grown from 8000 to 20.000 and they have become a nuisance.
Animal rights activists that shooting them is stupid as that supposedly makes them breed faster?
Hah, No match for the Suzo Arcade joystick with reinforced steel inside!
Hiroshima was nuked, tokyo is basicly on the other side of the "island", it's not that small...
Germany/holland etc were levelled, and although connectivity is good there it's as good as Japan..
Also this is what clamav says
/tmp/virus/all/109_virus_88.bin: OK
/tmp/virus/all/018_q347558.exe: Worm.Gibe.F FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/004_eicar.zip.bad_extension: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/016_patch-6143.zip: Trojan.Small-zippwd-17 FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/011_abuselist.zip: Worm.SomeFool.P FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/020_test.zip: Worm.Mytob.KT FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/010_18_04_2005.exe: Worm.Bagle.ET FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/107_Please-confirm-my-payment.eml: Trojan.Goldun.S-2 FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/108_virus_87.bin: Trojan.Downloader-12155 FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/110_vvzh.scr: Worm.Mydoom.AV FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/001_eicarcom2.zip: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/115_untangle3.zip: OK
/tmp/virus/all/002_eicar_com.zip: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/100_8.zip: Worm.Bagle.EI FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/114_untangle22.zip-(07-08-08_01:24) : Trojan.Downloader.Small-3219 FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/014_message.pif: Worm.Mytob.Crypt.Gen FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/103_Update-KB8156-x86.exe: Worm.Stration.JH FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/106_Info.exe: Worm.Bagle.Y FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/015_mntrup.exe: Trojan.Downloader.Delmed-2 FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/116_untangle4.zip: OK
/tmp/virus/all/000_eicar.com: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/017_photo.pif: Worm.SomeFool.P FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/102_Syndony.zip: Worm.Bagle.CD-1 FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/105_image.jpg.exe: Trojan.Dropper.Small.UU FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/019_scan_check.jpg.exe: Trojan.Goldun.S-2 FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/113_untangle21.zip: W32.Philis-232 FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/012_fullstory.exe: Trojan.Downloader-647 FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/111_xxx.com: Trojan.Spy-6766 FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/013_image.jpg.exe: Trojan.Dropper.Small.UU FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/021_The_taxation.zip: Worm.Bagle.FO FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/003_eicar.rar: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/104_Attachment.scr: Worm.Mydoom.M FOUND
/tmp/virus/all/112_untangle1.zip: OK
/tmp/virus/all/101_scan.jpg: Trojan.Spy.Goldun.N-unp FOUND
it0@home:/tmp/virus/all$ clamscan
----------- SCAN SUMMARY -----------
Known viruses: 142800
Engine version: 0.91.1
Scanned directories: 1
Scanned files: 34
Infected files: 30
Data scanned: 7.08 MB
Time: 5.890 sec (0 m 5 s)
Better results, but still the zipfiles with password couldn't be checked.
I have bitdefender running on my system
/tmp/virus/all/000_eicar.com infected: EICAR-Test-File (not a virus)
/tmp/virus/all/001_eicarcom2.zip=>eicar_com.zip=>e icar.com infected: EICAR-Test-File (not a virus)
/tmp/virus/all/002_eicar_com.zip=>eicar.com infected: EICAR-Test-File (not a virus)
/tmp/virus/all/004_eicar.zip.bad_extension=>eicar/ 00_eicar.com infected: EICAR-Test-File (not a virus)
/tmp/virus/all/010_18_04_2005.exe infected: Win32.Bagle.JF@mm
/tmp/virus/all/011_abuselist.zip=>document.txt.exe infected: Win32.Netsky.P@mm
/tmp/virus/all/012_fullstory.exe infected: Trojan.Peed.Gen
/tmp/virus/all/013_image.jpg.exe infected: Trojan.Banker.BZ
/tmp/virus/all/014_message.pif infected: Win32.Worm.Mytob.IB.Damaged
/tmp/virus/all/015_mntrup.exe infected: Trojan.Downloader.Delmed.A
/tmp/virus/all/017_photo.pif infected: Win32.Netsky.P@mm
/tmp/virus/all/018_q347558.exe infected: Win32.Swen.A@mm
/tmp/virus/all/019_scan_check.jpg.exe infected: Trojan.Spy.Goldun.S
/tmp/virus/all/020_test.zip=>test.exe infected: Win32.Worm.Mytob.T
/tmp/virus/all/101_scan.jpg infected: Trojan.Spy.Goldun.Q
/tmp/virus/all/104_Attachment.scr infected: Win32.Mydoom.M@mm
/tmp/virus/all/105_image.jpg.exe infected: Trojan.Banker.BZ
/tmp/virus/all/106_Info.exe infected: Win32.Bagle.W@mm.damaged
/tmp/virus/all/108_virus_87.bin infected: Trojan.Dropper.Rootkit.I
/tmp/virus/all/109_virus_88.bin infected: Trojan.Dropper.RIE
/tmp/virus/all/110_vvzh.scr infected: Win32.Mydoom.AQ@mm
:0 :44 :10 :21 :0 :0 :0 :14 :00:00:03
it0@home:/tmp/virus$ bdc all/*
BDC/Linux-Console v7.1 (build 2559) (i386) (Jul 6 2005 16:28:53)
Copyright (C) 1996-2004 SOFTWIN SRL. All rights reserved.
Results:
Folders
Files
Packed
Infected files
Suspect files
Warnings
Identified viruses:21
I/O errors
Files/second
Scan time
Some notes
112_untangle1.zip Contains password, therefore cannot be checked
113_untangle21.zip Correctly identified when first manually unzipped, strange because BDC can check inside zips
114_untangle22.zip-(07-08-08_01:24) Correctly identified when first manually unzipped, strange because BDC can check inside zips
115_untangle3.zip Contains password, therefore cannot be checked
116_untangle4.zip Contains password, therefore cannot be checked
The yes Men site links to the following article
A small quote
"Masquerading as officials from ExxonMobil and the U.S. National Petroleum Council, the two appeared before an oil industry audience and the buzz was that they would deliver long-awaited conclusions of a study commissioned by U.S. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman."
Maquerading!=parody
The isp killed the site, not Exxon, they just filed a complaint.
I can imagine that Exxon's logo's are protected by trademark etc, but I think they still can be used for parody.
However, I guess the initial site looked like a real Exxon site, and it wasn't apparent that it was a parody, looks like a legitimate reason for Exxon to complain.
Still what "threats" did they make, I so no copy of an email or letter.
After the Yes men removed the logo's and made it clear it was a parody, the ISP still blocked it.
Has Exxon contacted the Yes men directly? Or vice versa, the article mentions nothing.
Also if you are worried about the 150.000 deaths, don't use oil, except it's used in everything, even lubricant for windmills...
There is a good reason for supporting Postscript. I have a apple 16/600 PS laserwriter which supports Postscript level 2 , has a parallel and UTP connection(via converter).
Works on all os's. All os's have driver support for it. Why because it talks postscript.
More processing power is needed??? this is 2007, chips cost next to nothing
Does 16 pages @600DPI per minute. Which for home is more then enough.
Inside is made of ME-TAL, so it will probably outlife me.
What happened to the YES tag?
It's more like that China has always been a major power, hit a slum for about 100 years and is now trying to catch up, which they definetley will.
It's not a question of morality. It's just trendy to hate the US right now.
Do you work for Microsoft?
In the netherlands it's okay to download music, video and books but not proprietary software.
The difference is that music, video and books are seen as form of art and should reach as many people as possible but also should be available in years to come, that's the general idea.
Uploading is ofcourse wrong in all cases.
It is always legal to comment on things, because we have freedom of speech, we are allowed to quote things to make our point.
Else it would be legal to censor critics...
How can a scientist be al for censoring?? That said, all the manipulation, lobbying ,etc against known facts should be stopped. So I guess they want to fight corruption with censorship... only in the USA...
What if the cameras are only there to watch for criminal activity? What if all other activity is disregarded? Does it make you pause to think that maybe you're a tad paranoid?
The kind of slippery slope argument you're using here works both ways. Yes, cameras can be abused. But what if they aren't being abused and never will be?
Because in the end we are dealing with humans. In the netherlands we have a policy that if there hasn't happened anything within X time then all the material needs to be destroyed.
The material can only be accessed by police officers.
I would say there is little to no corruption in the netherlands but after investigating 30 cities it turned out that the above 2 rules in most of them were not followed.
Next to that there are some more disadvantages:
* Crime does not disappear, it just moves to where there are no camera's
* When there are camera's everywhere, why should you care about crime, somebody else is taking care of it.
* What about the future with face recognition, etc. You are standing too long in one place, etc.
* Also new laws/city ordanances are introduced like you are not allowed to wear a mask, else the camera system will not work, i.e. you cannot be recognised. However since you have done nothing wrong why do you have to identified? In the netherlands we are required to carry identification but we only have to show it when we are suspect of something with a clear reason!!!
ISTFM (I Saw the Fucking Movie)
Since BB was a Adventurer/surgeon/rock musician like most of us, he was easy to identify with.
That isn't such a big statement. he is just saying, without rules , or without obeying rules there would be chaos/anarchy. Still no comment if he would find that violence was justified, it's only implied.
a young Arab male with a backpack being belligerent in a crowded place I guess in a library or at campus it's always crowded. I guess all the students wear backpacks I guess since it's a university it's normal to have foreign students or at least have students of different etnic groups. So he didn't have his bruinid, what is that ? In dutch bruin means brown, so is that like a star jews had in WW II? It's not so hard to imagine for various reasons that you don't have your ID with you. Clearly he was not cooperating because he felt his rights being stepped on. For some reason it seems very normal to you to use force when you can't work it out verbally.
Newsan: This one has a web frontend and more wierd features. It's hard to install though.
I should now I wrote it..
Like
Steve "The Chair" Balmer
or
Steve Tripple D Balmer
or
Steve "Killing you softly" Balmer
I would take him more seriously, wouldn't you?
And that is why computers have a hard time understanding human written text, spoken text is even worse.
Humans know the context, so I would know that in a third world country when that person lives in the dessert and is lucky if he can eat some bugs cannot produce 11 kg worth of trash.
Well I think if you americans weren't so darn stupid, we europeans, would have better gadgets!
I mean we all look alike to them?