Microsoft has been known to drop important MAC applications - anyone remember Visual FoxPro?
I have forgotten if it happened on the first version or on 5.0. However, it went from a seemingly explicit promise to produce a MAC version to (in essence) the Windows version would suffice even for the MAC.
Hence, despite their being a profit center a larger agenda might force the MAC BU closure. Window OS and Office are the only big profit centers for MS. For now everything else is secondary.
Until I read this, I gave your comments some credibilty: It's simply not true. Yes, they have a monopoly, but they didn't GET their monopoly through monopolistic, or even "unfair," practices. They got it through good software. When I bought Windows in 1991, I didn't do so because of unfair practices or a desktop monopoly.
They did it on marketing, there were better products.
The operation ' = ' is an assignment, i.e. they assign the value (it may not be true) but it's their script.
Now if you use: ' == ' you are testing the values on both sides. Here you are saying they are equivalent. And I would assert that assertion would fail.
I really am growing to like python more and more...
Sorry, I did not read this diatribe in its entirety - however - it sufficed to read up to the point where there was supposedly more 'content' that I stopped.
This note lacks credibility and sounds more akin to an out-of-work MSCE that is trying to suppress a new reality.
Sorry Linux has long since left the academic only space and even the SCO assault will only for a time delay the timid.
I suggest that this Fortune 500 IT Consultant take up writing fiction where his/her talents so obviously reside.
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Well if you have wealth and influence and encounter problems (particularly if you are a large corporation) the U.S.A. can be very socialist.
For the run-of-the-mill citizen, it is a capitalist society.
[Regarding Medicare's (radical) changes: why was it hatched in secret with only the Republicans deciding how to construct this legislation? Why the hurry? Why does it not go into effect for three years? Why were some in congress sold on this piece of legislation being assured this will end social security?]
Regarding Home Land Security - didn't that rabid socialist Hitler have a similarly named department?
They want their softer version to go into effect prior to CA so that at least one important state will not notice how much they have short changed the protection features in the soon to go into effect California law!
I got one of those, and placed it in the trash. And I pay my bills!
Somehow I ran across it later, and to my suprise it was with a company I had done business. Upon checking, I was given credit for a return but I only assumed I was later charged for the replacement.
My assumption had been incorrect.
It is best to get the best spam filter you can get, because I am now getting more spam where I work on assignment than work related emails.
At home, on Linux - Mozilla has been doing an excellent job. Recently I had been wondering why I was seeing so few appearing in my junk email directory. [I got my first one in weeks just today - but I am assuming labeling it and transferring it will spare me].
Another source are companies you have done some sort of business with in the past - that forever more send emails. Hence, I no longer provide my email address to most requests. On these latter, I tend to ignore their emails unless they have something about a 24 hour sale - that gets an immediate deletion. Others can sometimes be of interest, particularly for information that does not enhance their attractiveness. For example, I had been dealing with a company that while priced higher than some others I order through has been extremely reliable. Moreover, they had a good return policy. With their ads I see that have been acquired - though I sometimes check their prices on items it is very unlikely I will chance another order from them. Anyone remember Fat Brain? I only began to noticed the difference that the shipments arrived using USPS (which can be excellent though usually slower). Only later did I learn they were acquired after encouraging my son to place an order with them that was nearly botched.
So the above my be viewed as my SPAM rage - so much easier to take with pretty good filters. Also I never respond to any of the junk.
The author suggests the normal "what's bad for Intel is bad for the computer industry..."
It could be bad for Intel, because they placed a very large bet on this chip. However, HP is likely to suffer more. Moreover, AMD is for the first time getting serious consideration from Dell as a possible 64 bit chip in its server line. Furthermore, it would be to Sun and IBM advantage because HP would not gain a significant advantage due to its input in the Italium design and hardware previews from Intel.
Yes it might be depressing to Silicon Valley, but that's not the entire industry.
When LWN was soliciting funds, I was also losing my email address. I sent a note about both, but somehow I never got a response. Much later on my own I sent some cash and only recently added them to my bookmarks.
Conclusion - too few to do too much work. As for content they were the best, consistently covering all Linux news with an objective eye.
They will be sorely missed by me and I am sure others.
In the USA it is illegal to send unsolicited faxes, because the recipient has costs. [Despite this, I have seen many that are technically illegal, but their number is not high enough to warrant a legal response. This is in a business setting.]
Many companies provide selected personnel with cell phones, and under current economic conditions the charges and/or the nuisance value of mistimed worthless messages may be noticed. We might soon see unrequested cell phone messaging outlawed in the States.
Not at my Linux machine, but if you are using USB you do not mount using/mnt/lp0 - that's the parallel port connection. For usb it is something like/mnt/usb.
You did not mention the version of Linux you are using. The latter did not help me with RedHat 7.1 kept saying there was a setup error. So instead we threw on a quick installation over the former's partitions using Mandrake 8.1 and the same settings worked.
While KWord was quite nice even had a color Header for my company's name the print out was useless. Switched to StarOffice 5.2 for very nice output albeit in b&w.
Should tell you too that this set of experiences were with an Epson 880, which may make my suggestions useless. HP seems to be moving towards more openness to Linux and I would expect an increased level of support for those developing printer drivers.
Do not be too put off by some of the jerks that respond to honest pleas for information. Some are just conceded..., while others are here just to cause trouble. The latter may consist of MS types playing dirty tricks. If you doubt the possibility of the latter statement being true, just research the actions of such types on the IBM's OS/2 site.
You cannot believe how far Linux has progressed in a very short period of time; if necessary use both Windows and Linux until you can leave the former behind.
I was under the impression that @home Business was $200/month, which is not too different from twice $90 for the professional you mentioned for DSL. However, there is no lease line charges.
It was $95/month plus a setup fee for the Professional when I was checking it out, if I remember correctly.
At more than twice the price for a time it was worth my getting the Professional level connections to allow VPN, however, the I ran into two problems trying to sign on.
The first problem was the 'customer service' person was certain no such service was offered by Comcast despite my having been directed towards it by a Comcast Business rep. Words could not convince her until someone showed her the page 'describing' the service.
Next she would not transfer me to a more knowledgeable source, since again she was convinced that the screen had all there was to know about the service. Her information would have made it worthless to me, because the machines identity had to match the company's assignment not Comcast's. Nonetheless, she was unmoved and I just was not in the mood to rip her to pieces.
Now the price is not worth it to me, so here is another example how companies lose customers one at a time. Moreover, perhaps as a direct result of this encounter with the ignorant being so sure of their extreme limit in knowledge I have turned into a very nasty person when I now confront similar behaviour elsewhere.
I just wish I could meet the person that created a phone system for American Express that gave no option to reach a living, thinking person.
Better yet buy Loki releases, they do not rely upon the ever changing MS "Standards". This efforts waste the talents of too many hard working programmers where native Linux issues will have a longer market life expectancy. The market may be smaller, but trying to keep up with MS Innovations will prove to be impossible. IBM had this experience with the simpler "Window's" environment trying to keep OS/2 current.
All that Linux really needs is a perceptible market share in games, the publisher list will grow with the number of those being screwed over by Microsoft business tactics. For some this will not suffice, but Linux need not the dominant OS to have a chastening effect upon the MS <i>modus operandi</i> where they will have to learn to really compete by other means than simple theft, bullying and marketing.
Have you ever purchased a computer with licences that you were aware of their entire contract in advance? Time for you to get serious - I was responding to an AC post, was that you?
How does the average individual computer purchaser avoid being presented with a 'package', e.g. the operating system for which one pays whether they use the bundled items or not?
You pay for Windows on nearly every packaged box whether you use it or not. Moreover, it is 'licensed' to you for only that box.
Not too funny in my view, and that's only one of the reasons I will no longer purchase vendor CPU offerings.
If you cannot read the contract until you have purchased the product and upon breaking the seal you and you lose your right to return the product - how is that voluntary? Moreover, did you ever see a case where the power was considered so disproportional that this sort of contract was thrown out? Well GM has lost cases based on that legal tenet. However, given the current composition of much of the federal judiciary I would not bet the farm on its immediate help.
Nonetheless, Microsoft has been labelled a monopolist using illegal business practices. You might wish to quibble and say it's not over having not seen a Supreme Court decision. But you should notice that they even pushed a more friendly applet court to issue an unanimous decision stating MS did not understand the conclusions the court had made.
Perhaps I am an optimist, which few people accuse me of being in person, but like all powers counter forces arise and MS may meet its match soon.
If your serious, use your 486 as a gateway which we plan to do as soon as some components arrive. Until then you could do as I: order an AMD chip at 1.4G and some DDRAM add a disc or two and other items coming in at less than $1K U.S. and Star Office is no problem. I speak from experience having used the later on my son's machine with only a 1.2G AMD CPU and 'regular' SDRAM.
Anyway, when I had Windows 3.1 running on my 486DX2-66 it was a dog. It will be much happier as a Linux Gateway (and Firewall) for our internet connections and Linux network.
I would tell you the fates of the few Windows machines still present, but that's another story to be told later.
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Microsoft has been known to drop important MAC applications - anyone remember Visual FoxPro?
I have forgotten if it happened on the first version or on 5.0. However, it went from a seemingly explicit promise to produce a MAC version to (in essence) the Windows version would suffice even for the MAC.
Hence, despite their being a profit center a larger agenda might force the MAC BU closure. Window OS and Office are the only big profit centers for MS. For now everything else is secondary.
Until I read this, I gave your comments some credibilty: It's simply not true. Yes, they have a monopoly, but they didn't GET their monopoly through monopolistic, or even "unfair," practices. They got it through good software. When I bought Windows in 1991, I didn't do so because of unfair practices or a desktop monopoly.
They did it on marketing, there were better products.
somehow I think landmines will not blow up if a small weed seed falls on them
Not if your foot is over the mine and the seeds land to its side.
Unless I am mistaken you and the other time wasters are here by your own action, i.e. choice.
Sue yourselves for the dumb choices you make and quite wasting my time at feeble attempts at humor.
I particularly like the Microsoft=Choice part...
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In some scripting languages this could be true!
The operation ' = ' is an assignment, i.e. they assign the value (it may not be true) but it's their script.
Now if you use: ' == ' you are testing the values on both sides. Here you are saying they are equivalent. And I would assert that assertion would fail.
I really am growing to like python more and more
Tenure: 'permanent faculty' or harder to throw out.
non-tenured: still an employee of the university, but if not promoted within a given period is essenttialy invited to leave.
That's the way it used to work.
Sorry, I did not read this diatribe in its entirety - however - it sufficed to read up to the point where there was supposedly more 'content' that I stopped.
This note lacks credibility and sounds more akin to an out-of-work MSCE that is trying to suppress a new reality.
Sorry Linux has long since left the academic only space and even the SCO assault will only for a time delay the timid.
I suggest that this Fortune 500 IT Consultant take up writing fiction where his/her talents so obviously reside.
Well if you have wealth and influence and encounter problems (particularly if you are a large corporation) the U.S.A. can be very socialist.
For the run-of-the-mill citizen, it is a capitalist society.
[Regarding Medicare's (radical) changes: why was it hatched in secret with only the Republicans deciding how to construct this legislation? Why the hurry? Why does it not go into effect for three years? Why were some in congress sold on this piece of legislation being assured this will end social security?]
Regarding Home Land Security - didn't that rabid socialist Hitler have a similarly named department?
They want their softer version to go into effect prior to CA so that at least one important state will not notice how much they have short changed the protection features in the soon to go into effect California law!
...
Where there is cash you can buy anything
I got one of those, and placed it in the trash. And I pay my bills!
Somehow I ran across it later, and to my suprise it was with a company I had done business. Upon checking, I was given credit for a return but I only assumed I was later charged for the replacement.
My assumption had been incorrect.
It is best to get the best spam filter you can get, because I am now getting more spam where I work on assignment than work related emails.
At home, on Linux - Mozilla has been doing an excellent job. Recently I had been wondering why I was seeing so few appearing in my junk email directory. [I got my first one in weeks just today - but I am assuming labeling it and transferring it will spare me].
Another source are companies you have done some sort of business with in the past - that forever more send emails. Hence, I no longer provide my email address to most requests. On these latter, I tend to ignore their emails unless they have something about a 24 hour sale - that gets an immediate deletion. Others can sometimes be of interest, particularly for information that does not enhance their attractiveness. For example, I had been dealing with a company that while priced higher than some others I order through has been extremely reliable. Moreover, they had a good return policy. With their ads I see that have been acquired - though I sometimes check their prices on items it is very unlikely I will chance another order from them. Anyone remember Fat Brain? I only began to noticed the difference that the shipments arrived using USPS (which can be excellent though usually slower). Only later did I learn they were acquired after encouraging my son to place an order with them that was nearly botched.
So the above my be viewed as my SPAM rage - so much easier to take with pretty good filters. Also I never respond to any of the junk.
Perhaps an objection to the DOJ upon the review should focus on getting Kylix sold to a competitor.
[I would hope by now redundant.]
Why doesn't Think Geek and others begin to offer recordings from Indy bands?
With a popular outlet, both the bands and those knowing all things digital may go mainstream.
The author suggests the normal "what's bad for Intel is bad for the computer industry ..."
It could be bad for Intel, because they placed a very large bet on this chip. However, HP is likely to suffer more. Moreover, AMD is for the first time getting serious consideration from Dell as a possible 64 bit chip in its server line. Furthermore, it would be to Sun and IBM advantage because HP would not gain a significant advantage due to its input in the Italium design and hardware previews from Intel.
Yes it might be depressing to Silicon Valley, but that's not the entire industry.
When LWN was soliciting funds, I was also losing my email address. I sent a note about both, but somehow I never got a response. Much later on my own I sent some cash and only recently added them to my bookmarks.
Conclusion - too few to do too much work. As for content they were the best, consistently covering all Linux news with an objective eye.
They will be sorely missed by me and I am sure others.
In the USA it is illegal to send unsolicited faxes, because the recipient has costs. [Despite this, I have seen many that are technically illegal, but their number is not high enough to warrant a legal response. This is in a business setting.]
Many companies provide selected personnel with cell phones, and under current economic conditions the charges and/or the nuisance value of mistimed worthless messages may be noticed. We might soon see unrequested cell phone messaging outlawed in the States.
Not at my Linux machine, but if you are using USB you do not mount using /mnt/lp0 - that's the parallel port connection. For usb it is something like /mnt/usb.
..., while others are here just to cause trouble. The latter may consist of MS types playing dirty tricks. If you doubt the possibility of the latter statement being true, just research the actions of such types on the IBM's OS/2 site.
You did not mention the version of Linux you are using. The latter did not help me with RedHat 7.1 kept saying there was a setup error. So instead we threw on a quick installation over the former's partitions using Mandrake 8.1 and the same settings worked.
While KWord was quite nice even had a color Header for my company's name the print out was useless. Switched to StarOffice 5.2 for very nice output albeit in b&w.
Should tell you too that this set of experiences were with an Epson 880, which may make my suggestions useless. HP seems to be moving towards more openness to Linux and I would expect an increased level of support for those developing printer drivers.
Do not be too put off by some of the jerks that respond to honest pleas for information. Some are just conceded
You cannot believe how far Linux has progressed in a very short period of time; if necessary use both Windows and Linux until you can leave the former behind.
I was under the impression that @home Business was $200/month, which is not too different from twice $90 for the professional you mentioned for DSL. However, there is no lease line charges.
It was $95/month plus a setup fee for the Professional when I was checking it out, if I remember correctly.
At more than twice the price for a time it was worth my getting the Professional level connections to allow VPN, however, the I ran into two problems trying to sign on.
The first problem was the 'customer service' person was certain no such service was offered by Comcast despite my having been directed towards it by a Comcast Business rep. Words could not convince her until someone showed her the page 'describing' the service.
Next she would not transfer me to a more knowledgeable source, since again she was convinced that the screen had all there was to know about the service. Her information would have made it worthless to me, because the machines identity had to match the company's assignment not Comcast's. Nonetheless, she was unmoved and I just was not in the mood to rip her to pieces.
Now the price is not worth it to me, so here is another example how companies lose customers one at a time. Moreover, perhaps as a direct result of this encounter with the ignorant being so sure of their extreme limit in knowledge I have turned into a very nasty person when I now confront similar behaviour elsewhere.
I just wish I could meet the person that created a phone system for American Express that gave no option to reach a living, thinking person.
Enough
Better yet buy Loki releases, they do not rely upon the ever changing MS "Standards". This efforts waste the talents of too many hard working programmers where native Linux issues will have a longer market life expectancy. The market may be smaller, but trying to keep up with MS Innovations will prove to be impossible. IBM had this experience with the simpler "Window's" environment trying to keep OS/2 current.
All that Linux really needs is a perceptible market share in games, the publisher list will grow with the number of those being screwed over by Microsoft business tactics. For some this will not suffice, but Linux need not the dominant OS to have a chastening effect upon the MS <i>modus operandi</i> where they will have to learn to really compete by other means than simple theft, bullying and marketing.
Sorry, I did not notice your alias - I had been answering AC's. Jumped the gun on this one.
This may be late, because I ran into the 2 minute warning.
Not meant to be funny.
Have you ever purchased a computer with licences that you were aware of their entire contract in advance? Time for you to get serious - I was responding to an AC post, was that you?
How does the average individual computer purchaser avoid being presented with a 'package', e.g. the operating system for which one pays whether they use the bundled items or not?
You pay for Windows on nearly every packaged box whether you use it or not. Moreover, it is 'licensed' to you for only that box.
Not too funny in my view, and that's only one of the reasons I will no longer purchase vendor CPU offerings.
If you cannot read the contract until you have purchased the product and upon breaking the seal you and you lose your right to return the product - how is that voluntary? Moreover, did you ever see a case where the power was considered so disproportional that this sort of contract was thrown out? Well GM has lost cases based on that legal tenet. However, given the current composition of much of the federal judiciary I would not bet the farm on its immediate help.
Nonetheless, Microsoft has been labelled a monopolist using illegal business practices. You might wish to quibble and say it's not over having not seen a Supreme Court decision. But you should notice that they even pushed a more friendly applet court to issue an unanimous decision stating MS did not understand the conclusions the court had made.
Perhaps I am an optimist, which few people accuse me of being in person, but like all powers counter forces arise and MS may meet its match soon.
Just about the percentage the Mafia had before the federal prosecutors became tougher and J. Edgar was no longer around to deny its existence.
Remember that, when they tell you how you can use the machine you paid for and they "use" to your determent.
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That is, unless you are a MS employee or have some other vested interest
If your serious, use your 486 as a gateway which we plan to do as soon as some components arrive. Until then you could do as I: order an AMD chip at 1.4G and some DDRAM add a disc or two and other items coming in at less than $1K U.S. and Star Office is no problem. I speak from experience having used the later on my son's machine with only a 1.2G AMD CPU and 'regular' SDRAM.
...
Anyway, when I had Windows 3.1 running on my 486DX2-66 it was a dog. It will be much happier as a Linux Gateway (and Firewall) for our internet connections and Linux network.
I would tell you the fates of the few Windows machines still present, but that's another story to be told later.
Be happy