Just off the top of my head and in no particular order:
openSUSE Sabayon Fedora 19 (when it comes out) Mint Manjaro
All of the above will get you nearly the same hardware support and often a better desktop experience. Manjaro is an up and comer based on Arch, still has some bugs. Sabayon, based on Gentoo is actually pretty damn good now. The others have been great for a while. I honestly don't understand why people are so hung up on Ubuntu, it doesn't offer anything the other distros don't.
Damning with faint praise, there. And if you're Jewish, that's like a white person in 1965 talking about how safe he felt in Alabama
Well, it's Israel, Jews are supposed to feel safe there. That's sorta the whole point. Unfortunately, bigots like you have done everything they can to allow Muslims into Israel so they can commit terrorist attacks against innocent civilians. And as for the moronic comparison to 1965 Alabama, no. There is no comparison there. Give it up.
Of course I know the differences. But you're making the stupid assessment that the Bush tax cuts are still in place. Which they are not. So who's the "fucking stupid" one exactly? Yeah that's you.
But thats not what it is saying. It's saying 121% of the gains which is impossible. They can take 100% of the gains but the other 21% is literally impossible. It can be a 21% loss for the poor but it can't be a 121% of the total gains.
Yes because it means their support is shakey and their motivations can swing them in another direction at any time. Oracle can sabotage any project they are a part of and knowing who their CEO is should make people wary of them.
I'm not a purist but I get where the purists come from when it comes to Oracle. I don't trust them and I don't give them my money.
Try reading the fucking answers fuckwad. All you're reading is the error message, look to the root fucking cause. Ok? Got it? Great now fuck off and get some god damned sense. Jesus Christ, I'm done with this, back and forth with a fucking idiot.
User error. They tried manually installing shit without installing the dependancies. This is not an apt-get install issue, this is a retard not knowing what they are doing.
Personally I think that anyone who uses something like Windows (a desktop OS with known, SHORT service lifetime, suitable for desktop computing in non-critical applications) in an industrial tool with 10+ year lifetime, should be fired immediately
XP is 12 years old. It'll be 13 when it's EOL'd. I wouldn't call that short. The problem isn't Windows, it's vendors using proprietary file formats and charging for full software upgrades instead of just driver updates for existing software.
There shouldn't be anything stopping a vendor from releasing the same version of their applications on win7 as well as XP but they see dollar signs and gouge the fuck out of you because you're a "professional."
XP has had a longer lifespan than either a Red Hat or an Ubuntu LTS release. I hate defending Microsoft but on this one they are right to EOL the fucker and vendors need to be supporting their shit with upgrades and compat updates if they want to continue charging the hundreds of thousands, even millions, for software. Either that or release the fucking specs and let the free software folks take a crack at it.
Mkay...just a quick google Here's a bug from 2008 in which an upgrade toasted some Perl stuff. Oddly enough, it seems to show up in a 2012 post as well
Now then, that said. Yes, maintainers make mistakes just like MegaCorp$. Linux is not infallible. Some distros suck worse at things than others. I'm glad there are many. There is only one Apple OS and only one Windows OS. If either of those suck, you're really out of luck. You cannot "switch" to a different, yet compatible, system. With Linux you can. In the end, I'll take wrestling with busted packages on Linux any day. On other platforms is usually shut-up and reinstall. Thankfully, it's not as common as the rpmhell back in the 90s.
Sad example. A bug with a distribution upgrade 5 years ago is not an "apt-get upgrade" issue. Not to mention the one from 2012 looks more like someone dicking around with the perl libraries and it broke when upgrading their distro.
By all means, keep grasping at straws. Linux does have its issues, the vast majority of which are on the backend and out of sight for users. There is no perfect OS, but to try and compare it to the shitfest that is windows and it's upgrades..... sorry no. You're way off course.
But what I'd LOVE to see, is someone who is not only a Linux geek, but someone who built up a business like this from nowhere - as in NO source of customers. A nobody.
That's what I'd like to see.
Keep looking because that doesn't happen in any line of business. Bakers start out baking somewhere and open up their own shops, customers and clientel from past experience try them out and either stick with them or move on.
Business is as much who you know as what you know. Connections matter and anyone that jumps into a new business without connections is doomed to failure.
Package updates break things on Linux as often as they do on any other platform.
Citation needed. I can't remember the last 'apt-get upgrade' that broke something on my system. Not sure it's ever even happened to me.
Adobe needs updates on Linux too.
Cool. Linux can do that..... silently. In the background without the user ever knowing. No nagging popups or user interaction required. Not like pushing shit out with SCCM in windows and all the fucking annoyances that includes, plus the asshole you have to hire to package shit manually for it.
The difference is that the users are scared to touch anything, so they don't.
Which is why windows systems are often so much more out of date than a Linux system that will take updates in the background without them ever knowing it.
Instead of users buying software and doing their own work, they hire him to administer free software - I am OK with that, but I hate the myth that Linux "just works". There is a reason, that even with all the free software that exists, the software companies are still in business.
Software companies are still in business for a wide range of reasons. Many of them incorporate free software. This goes nowhere to further your point.
Ting uses the Sprint network which I am actively trying to get off of. I have dialup speeds in my area and they aren't even putting Idaho on the map for LTE yet. Ting might have good service/plans etc but since they are literally using Sprints network it's still garbage.
I'm convinced that phone carriers are the spawn of Satan. The ones in the US aren't any better than this and may in fact be worse on many levels. I've worked for two of them and the shit I've seen still keeps me up at night.
I tend to lean more libertarian but every time I recall my past experiences with these fuckers I start screaming for regulation. Just the fact I pay 3 times what Europeans do for half the service is enough to make me want to hang the bastards from trees and through rocks at them.
And in the process the "P-man" becomes a social pariah incapable of communicating with people. Loses out on the "simple" things in life, like backyard BBQ's, ball games, good conversations with friends.
Sorry but the isolated brilliant guy isn't a real person. That's Dr. House on TV and he wasn't even liked in fiction. The real thing is even worse. I'd highly recommend you change the paradigm and enjoy life's simple pleasures. Life is short after-all and you really only get the one crack at it.
I grew up right next to the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. My dad and the vast majority of my friends moms and dads worked there for a long time as physicists. Being around these people for 35 years has taught me something. They are morons. They know physics but literally nothing else, besides of course math.
Its one of those strange situations where they can be utterly brilliant in their singular field of study but absolutely incompetent at literally everything else. I've known guys with IQ's in the 160's that couldn't for the life of them live on their own for their inability to cook or clean or even drive a car. I know one of them that was 45 years old and had never had a drivers license. His wife drove him everywhere or he walked (occasionally the bus if the weather was poor). He didn't do this for ideological reasons like climate change blah blah, he did it because he couldn't drive. He failed the drivers test for years until he gave up trying.
Whenever a physicist starts talking about something other than physics, I typically roll my eyes and ignore them. It's just intellectual masturbation on their part.
Neither does ancient Christianity. The "acts of terror" people love to ascribe to it were political strife, caused by warring Kings who claimed Christianity to win over the masses. There is literally not a single part of Christianity that is violent. Some old testament Jewish stuff that was over ruled by Jesus in the new testament was but nothing in the new testament condones violence of any kind.
The atheist bigots don't like to talk about that tho. It's just "Fuck religion" all day long, showing the same hatred they claim belongs to religion. It's pathetic.
What are you using AD for exactly? I see a lot of businesses using it for no real good reason, just because some IT person told them they really really needed it.
Anyway, you can look into http://www.freeipa.org/page/Main_Page but I've never used it and have no idea how easy it is. I suspect if you need something "easy" then you probably don't need it at all.
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Just off the top of my head and in no particular order:
openSUSE
Sabayon
Fedora 19 (when it comes out)
Mint
Manjaro
All of the above will get you nearly the same hardware support and often a better desktop experience. Manjaro is an up and comer based on Arch, still has some bugs. Sabayon, based on Gentoo is actually pretty damn good now. The others have been great for a while. I honestly don't understand why people are so hung up on Ubuntu, it doesn't offer anything the other distros don't.
Damning with faint praise, there. And if you're Jewish, that's like a white person in 1965 talking about how safe he felt in Alabama
Well, it's Israel, Jews are supposed to feel safe there. That's sorta the whole point. Unfortunately, bigots like you have done everything they can to allow Muslims into Israel so they can commit terrorist attacks against innocent civilians. And as for the moronic comparison to 1965 Alabama, no. There is no comparison there. Give it up.
This is what 1%ers ACTUALLY BELIEVE.
Yep, and that's why they are 1%ers while you're eating ramen noodles and sleeping on mommies couch.
Of course I know the differences. But you're making the stupid assessment that the Bush tax cuts are still in place. Which they are not. So who's the "fucking stupid" one exactly? Yeah that's you.
But thats not what it is saying. It's saying 121% of the gains which is impossible. They can take 100% of the gains but the other 21% is literally impossible. It can be a 21% loss for the poor but it can't be a 121% of the total gains.
How do you capture 121% of the wealth? Did they take 100%, then give 21% back and then steal it again or something?
Funny that you don't mention the bush tax cuts that keep getting extended.
You mean those tax cuts that lapsed in January of this year? The ones where my wife and I probably wont get a tax return above 1500$ this year?
Does the reason matter so long as they do it?
Yes because it means their support is shakey and their motivations can swing them in another direction at any time. Oracle can sabotage any project they are a part of and knowing who their CEO is should make people wary of them.
I'm not a purist but I get where the purists come from when it comes to Oracle. I don't trust them and I don't give them my money.
Try reading the fucking answers fuckwad. All you're reading is the error message, look to the root fucking cause. Ok? Got it? Great now fuck off and get some god damned sense. Jesus Christ, I'm done with this, back and forth with a fucking idiot.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/171038/broken-package-manager-the-suggested-apt-get-f-install-is-failing
User error. They tried manually installing shit without installing the dependancies. This is not an apt-get install issue, this is a retard not knowing what they are doing.
http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33031
Also user error. Morons installed a custom kernel and wonders why apt-get won't upgrade his kernel.
http://www.google.com/search?q=broken+apt-get+upgrade
useless
Personally I think that anyone who uses something like Windows (a desktop OS with known, SHORT service lifetime, suitable for desktop computing in non-critical applications) in an industrial tool with 10+ year lifetime, should be fired immediately
XP is 12 years old. It'll be 13 when it's EOL'd. I wouldn't call that short. The problem isn't Windows, it's vendors using proprietary file formats and charging for full software upgrades instead of just driver updates for existing software.
There shouldn't be anything stopping a vendor from releasing the same version of their applications on win7 as well as XP but they see dollar signs and gouge the fuck out of you because you're a "professional."
XP has had a longer lifespan than either a Red Hat or an Ubuntu LTS release. I hate defending Microsoft but on this one they are right to EOL the fucker and vendors need to be supporting their shit with upgrades and compat updates if they want to continue charging the hundreds of thousands, even millions, for software. Either that or release the fucking specs and let the free software folks take a crack at it.
Not my fault your work can't upgrade and get out of flash. Bad business decision.
Mkay...just a quick google
Here's a bug from 2008 in which an upgrade toasted some Perl stuff. Oddly enough, it seems to show up in a 2012 post as well
Now then, that said. Yes, maintainers make mistakes just like MegaCorp$. Linux is not infallible. Some distros suck worse at things than others. I'm glad there are many. There is only one Apple OS and only one Windows OS. If either of those suck, you're really out of luck. You cannot "switch" to a different, yet compatible, system. With Linux you can. In the end, I'll take wrestling with busted packages on Linux any day. On other platforms is usually shut-up and reinstall. Thankfully, it's not as common as the rpmhell back in the 90s.
Sad example. A bug with a distribution upgrade 5 years ago is not an "apt-get upgrade" issue. Not to mention the one from 2012 looks more like someone dicking around with the perl libraries and it broke when upgrading their distro.
By all means, keep grasping at straws. Linux does have its issues, the vast majority of which are on the backend and out of sight for users. There is no perfect OS, but to try and compare it to the shitfest that is windows and it's upgrades..... sorry no. You're way off course.
Yeah but people are still gonna browse, whether work-related or not...
And your point is? They need to be on youtube or something to do their job?
But what I'd LOVE to see, is someone who is not only a Linux geek, but someone who built up a business like this from nowhere - as in NO source of customers. A nobody.
That's what I'd like to see.
Keep looking because that doesn't happen in any line of business. Bakers start out baking somewhere and open up their own shops, customers and clientel from past experience try them out and either stick with them or move on.
Business is as much who you know as what you know. Connections matter and anyone that jumps into a new business without connections is doomed to failure.
Package updates break things on Linux as often as they do on any other platform.
Citation needed. I can't remember the last 'apt-get upgrade' that broke something on my system. Not sure it's ever even happened to me.
Adobe needs updates on Linux too.
Cool. Linux can do that..... silently. In the background without the user ever knowing. No nagging popups or user interaction required. Not like pushing shit out with SCCM in windows and all the fucking annoyances that includes, plus the asshole you have to hire to package shit manually for it.
The difference is that the users are scared to touch anything, so they don't.
Which is why windows systems are often so much more out of date than a Linux system that will take updates in the background without them ever knowing it.
Instead of users buying software and doing their own work, they hire him to administer free software - I am OK with that, but I hate the myth that Linux "just works". There is a reason, that even with all the free software that exists, the software companies are still in business.
Software companies are still in business for a wide range of reasons. Many of them incorporate free software. This goes nowhere to further your point.
16 whole jobs? Say it ain't so. Why that's absolutely booming! /s
Ting uses the Sprint network which I am actively trying to get off of. I have dialup speeds in my area and they aren't even putting Idaho on the map for LTE yet. Ting might have good service/plans etc but since they are literally using Sprints network it's still garbage.
Its ok, it's Monday and I still haven't fully woken up :)
I'm convinced that phone carriers are the spawn of Satan. The ones in the US aren't any better than this and may in fact be worse on many levels. I've worked for two of them and the shit I've seen still keeps me up at night.
I tend to lean more libertarian but every time I recall my past experiences with these fuckers I start screaming for regulation. Just the fact I pay 3 times what Europeans do for half the service is enough to make me want to hang the bastards from trees and through rocks at them.
And in the process the "P-man" becomes a social pariah incapable of communicating with people. Loses out on the "simple" things in life, like backyard BBQ's, ball games, good conversations with friends.
Sorry but the isolated brilliant guy isn't a real person. That's Dr. House on TV and he wasn't even liked in fiction. The real thing is even worse. I'd highly recommend you change the paradigm and enjoy life's simple pleasures. Life is short after-all and you really only get the one crack at it.
I grew up right next to the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. My dad and the vast majority of my friends moms and dads worked there for a long time as physicists. Being around these people for 35 years has taught me something. They are morons. They know physics but literally nothing else, besides of course math.
Its one of those strange situations where they can be utterly brilliant in their singular field of study but absolutely incompetent at literally everything else. I've known guys with IQ's in the 160's that couldn't for the life of them live on their own for their inability to cook or clean or even drive a car. I know one of them that was 45 years old and had never had a drivers license. His wife drove him everywhere or he walked (occasionally the bus if the weather was poor). He didn't do this for ideological reasons like climate change blah blah, he did it because he couldn't drive. He failed the drivers test for years until he gave up trying.
Whenever a physicist starts talking about something other than physics, I typically roll my eyes and ignore them. It's just intellectual masturbation on their part.
Neither does ancient Christianity. The "acts of terror" people love to ascribe to it were political strife, caused by warring Kings who claimed Christianity to win over the masses. There is literally not a single part of Christianity that is violent. Some old testament Jewish stuff that was over ruled by Jesus in the new testament was but nothing in the new testament condones violence of any kind.
The atheist bigots don't like to talk about that tho. It's just "Fuck religion" all day long, showing the same hatred they claim belongs to religion. It's pathetic.
What are you using AD for exactly? I see a lot of businesses using it for no real good reason, just because some IT person told them they really really needed it.
Anyway, you can look into http://www.freeipa.org/page/Main_Page but I've never used it and have no idea how easy it is. I suspect if you need something "easy" then you probably don't need it at all.
Yes he is but he's also the only one showing the photos of the guys from Craft so our options are limited.