Barely half of my original XBox games are playable on my 360 (ex: The Castlevanias). People should not consider the 360 a replacement for the original XBox yet.
First, great replies. Vote me as you wish, I like these conversations.
Again, I support the fact that a new system offering retro games is not a selling point. I do think it is 'neat', but I don't think it is a selling point and/or worth the money.
1) I never said the games are not fun anymore. We simply do not have time for them anymore (at least people post high school don't). If your interest is in playing these old games, then there were already mediums to play them, aka The original systems and/or Mame/emulators.
2) Anything starting with and post PS1/N64 is still pretty obtainable, and doesn't really fall into the retro list. The only thing I do agree with is having all games on one system, but that will not happen. What we are starting to have is a hand full of games. SOTN on 360, etc.
3) Handheld retro games are getting a lot of play time because retro games are perfect for the handheld focus, which is a medium that doesn't need much concentration and can be played anywhere. This is why retro games are perfect for the GB series and not a console. When you get a chance to sit in front your huge tv, baby asleep, etc, are you going to spend this precious self time booting up Dr. Mario on the 42" LCD? No. You want to see something that wows you. Dr. Mario is perfect for when you are in another room, do not
have access to the TV, active environments, etc.
4) When you put time into an older game like Zelda, it's most likely because you have played it previously. This is kin to re-reading a book. You know where it is going, you know what will happen, but you liked the feeling it gave. Will you spend money on that book again? You still have it sitting in the other room.
5) Almost all Mame enthusiasts make their collections to have them, and to bring them out in parties. Many of us used to spend several days mastering a game like Mega Man 1 just so we could finish it before we had to return the rental. Most, if not all, DO NOT have that time anymore, which is why I said we don't spend much time in front of the old games once we have them available again. This was proved by the release of the collection games (ex: Midway, Mega Man), and their low low sales figures. Even the people that bought them don't spend much time on each game individually. Worth the $20 for the collection of games? Yes. Worth $3 for each game? No.
I have a hard time seeing retro game downloads as a selling point. I will first ignore the fact I own almost all the games available to download, and the fact anyone can get Mame and download them also. I haven't heard of a single person who has picked up a game over 10 years old and spent a lot of time with, let alone 30 minutes. Yes, it is fun to remember the feelings you had, or to laugh at the absurdity of those old games, but the truth is why spend time playing through an old game when you have newer ones to dabble with? The only answer I can think of is that your system doesn't have any good new games. The PS3 doesn't really, and the Wii only has Zelda.
I found Guild Wars to be full of a lot of story driven game play. The only problem is since I have to go into an instance to play any part of the action or story, I fealt I might as well be playing a single player game that had better graphics and not all the quirks of online game. If I am going to play across the network, I want to see others all the time.
I am just curious what he was doing and selling to make that much money. In another article, in Japanese, it mentioned he did all of this in 6 or so months. I have known people who sell stuff for online games, but to make that much income inthat short of time, doing what?
Hillary is not 'against' games. She is for enforcing the rating system. By making a more enforcable rating system, you will have less idiotic lawsuits. Game stores will take more effort in keeping certain games out the hands of minors, and parents can't sue over a game their kid should not have had in the first place. If you are 14, and are angry you can't get a certain game, I guess you are whining about movies, drugs, alchohol, etc. also.
Just walk around any game store in Japan, in Akihabara in my case, and you will isles of every games system....but then you will find a couple 360, and if you are lucky XBox games. Same thing goes for XBox games. I personally think they are waiting for the other two systems to release before making a buying decision.
The one thing I was dissapointed with at the TGS was that the next gen titles still used old techniques. For example, instead of using true type fonts that use vectors, and would look nice at any resolution and scale, they still used plain old bitmaps. Even worse, proper physics are still not used in games like Virtua Fighter 5 and you still get a foot through the stomach. I would expect them to use some of that extra power to calculate and fix some of these artifacts of the elder systems. If not from these first gen titles, then from the next batch at least.
The game still lives. The people who are obligated to get money are still getting their money. The people who made the game are still alive. Nothing is dead. A team was brought together for this project. The project is finished. The team is not needed anymore.
Pretty simple. MS is making their own Halo RTS. MS owns the copyrights to the characters and used that to leverage the shutdown. They shutdown this particular mod because it is close to their product, and with the same chars, it would be competition.
All through college I read this mag. To be honest, I haven't bought it in quite a while, but wow...to see it go is like seeing one of my childhood actors die. I still remember reading about how a shareware game called 'Doom' was available, and then reading about some strange game called 'System Shock'. It was at that time I thought...Hmm...maybe I shouldn' buy an Amiga 4000. Luckily Comodor went broke, and I got a P90. RIP! Great mem!
I always wondered about Lineage's numbers. Correct me where I am wrong; It was at a 7 mil mark a long time ago, right? And was mostly S.Koreans? What is S.Korea's population? The only way that could happen is if every player had about 4 subscriptions. I guess that counts. It just makes Wow's subscription numbers worth more since the common American only has one, and maybe 2.
I agree with what you are saying, only it is just bland statement of what needs to be done next. For example, first there were single colored polys. To simulate higher polygon counts, textures came along. We have reached the point where textures are not needed, and their purpose has shifted to paterns, verses drawing every detail like mouths and such. You know what I mean. It is AWESOME that people still have a goal, like yourself, to look foward to in graphics rather than just higher poly counts. I think HDR is just a small step in the right direction. I personally still want my games to look like games rather than real life. I still want a suspension of reality. I want things to look slightly surreal.
The news here in Austin was showing how bad traffic was, and at the very end the reporter was explaining how we just have to find other ways to entertain ourselves while stuck in traffic, and the camera zoomed in on a girl reading a book, yet her car was still moving. Man, Austin drivers are bad, cell phone or not.
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Barely half of my original XBox games are playable on my 360 (ex: The Castlevanias). People should not consider the 360 a replacement for the original XBox yet.
Again, I support the fact that a new system offering retro games is not a selling point. I do think it is 'neat', but I don't think it is a selling point and/or worth the money.
1) I never said the games are not fun anymore. We simply do not have time for them anymore (at least people post high school don't). If your interest is in playing these old games, then there were already mediums to play them, aka The original systems and/or Mame/emulators.
2) Anything starting with and post PS1/N64 is still pretty obtainable, and doesn't really fall into the retro list. The only thing I do agree with is having all games on one system, but that will not happen. What we are starting to have is a hand full of games. SOTN on 360, etc.
3) Handheld retro games are getting a lot of play time because retro games are perfect for the handheld focus, which is a medium that doesn't need much concentration and can be played anywhere. This is why retro games are perfect for the GB series and not a console. When you get a chance to sit in front your huge tv, baby asleep, etc, are you going to spend this precious self time booting up Dr. Mario on the 42" LCD? No. You want to see something that wows you. Dr. Mario is perfect for when you are in another room, do not have access to the TV, active environments, etc.
4) When you put time into an older game like Zelda, it's most likely because you have played it previously. This is kin to re-reading a book. You know where it is going, you know what will happen, but you liked the feeling it gave. Will you spend money on that book again? You still have it sitting in the other room.
5) Almost all Mame enthusiasts make their collections to have them, and to bring them out in parties. Many of us used to spend several days mastering a game like Mega Man 1 just so we could finish it before we had to return the rental. Most, if not all, DO NOT have that time anymore, which is why I said we don't spend much time in front of the old games once we have them available again. This was proved by the release of the collection games (ex: Midway, Mega Man), and their low low sales figures. Even the people that bought them don't spend much time on each game individually. Worth the $20 for the collection of games? Yes. Worth $3 for each game? No.
I have a hard time seeing retro game downloads as a selling point. I will first ignore the fact I own almost all the games available to download, and the fact anyone can get Mame and download them also. I haven't heard of a single person who has picked up a game over 10 years old and spent a lot of time with, let alone 30 minutes. Yes, it is fun to remember the feelings you had, or to laugh at the absurdity of those old games, but the truth is why spend time playing through an old game when you have newer ones to dabble with? The only answer I can think of is that your system doesn't have any good new games. The PS3 doesn't really, and the Wii only has Zelda.
Nothing like someone from a company as infamous as 3D realms trying to you business advice.
I found Guild Wars to be full of a lot of story driven game play. The only problem is since I have to go into an instance to play any part of the action or story, I fealt I might as well be playing a single player game that had better graphics and not all the quirks of online game. If I am going to play across the network, I want to see others all the time.
I am just curious what he was doing and selling to make that much money. In another article, in Japanese, it mentioned he did all of this in 6 or so months. I have known people who sell stuff for online games, but to make that much income inthat short of time, doing what?
Hillary is not 'against' games. She is for enforcing the rating system. By making a more enforcable rating system, you will have less idiotic lawsuits. Game stores will take more effort in keeping certain games out the hands of minors, and parents can't sue over a game their kid should not have had in the first place. If you are 14, and are angry you can't get a certain game, I guess you are whining about movies, drugs, alchohol, etc. also.
"ghettoising"?!
Just walk around any game store in Japan, in Akihabara in my case, and you will isles of every games system....but then you will find a couple 360, and if you are lucky XBox games. Same thing goes for XBox games. I personally think they are waiting for the other two systems to release before making a buying decision.
The one thing I was dissapointed with at the TGS was that the next gen titles still used old techniques. For example, instead of using true type fonts that use vectors, and would look nice at any resolution and scale, they still used plain old bitmaps. Even worse, proper physics are still not used in games like Virtua Fighter 5 and you still get a foot through the stomach. I would expect them to use some of that extra power to calculate and fix some of these artifacts of the elder systems. If not from these first gen titles, then from the next batch at least.
Voted offtopic? Apparently someone has never worked in software industry.
The game still lives. The people who are obligated to get money are still getting their money. The people who made the game are still alive. Nothing is dead. A team was brought together for this project. The project is finished. The team is not needed anymore.
Game Development Studio = Contractors for producer. No story here. Game/Contract finished, go on to next contract.
Yea, except at the show it was on a huge ass screen that I don't have.
How do you recieve news from a convention that hasn't even started yet?
Already have my tickets bought. Even staying at a hotel in Akihabara.
Man, he sounds like one of those guys who likes pugs.
Pretty simple. MS is making their own Halo RTS. MS owns the copyrights to the characters and used that to leverage the shutdown. They shutdown this particular mod because it is close to their product, and with the same chars, it would be competition.
I thought I heard the PS4's codename was something like 'Phantom'.
All through college I read this mag. To be honest, I haven't bought it in quite a while, but wow...to see it go is like seeing one of my childhood actors die. I still remember reading about how a shareware game called 'Doom' was available, and then reading about some strange game called 'System Shock'. It was at that time I thought...Hmm...maybe I shouldn' buy an Amiga 4000. Luckily Comodor went broke, and I got a P90. RIP! Great mem!
Decent was also another portal heavy game. Portals were a way to cull geometry easily.
What would be great would be if it could also be a phone.
I always wondered about Lineage's numbers. Correct me where I am wrong; It was at a 7 mil mark a long time ago, right? And was mostly S.Koreans? What is S.Korea's population? The only way that could happen is if every player had about 4 subscriptions. I guess that counts. It just makes Wow's subscription numbers worth more since the common American only has one, and maybe 2.
I agree with what you are saying, only it is just bland statement of what needs to be done next. For example, first there were single colored polys. To simulate higher polygon counts, textures came along. We have reached the point where textures are not needed, and their purpose has shifted to paterns, verses drawing every detail like mouths and such. You know what I mean. It is AWESOME that people still have a goal, like yourself, to look foward to in graphics rather than just higher poly counts. I think HDR is just a small step in the right direction. I personally still want my games to look like games rather than real life. I still want a suspension of reality. I want things to look slightly surreal.
The news here in Austin was showing how bad traffic was, and at the very end the reporter was explaining how we just have to find other ways to entertain ourselves while stuck in traffic, and the camera zoomed in on a girl reading a book, yet her car was still moving. Man, Austin drivers are bad, cell phone or not.