I've been coding in Qt about as long as I've been coding in Java. If you think Qt is a beautiful API, you really gotta get out more.
Java from Sun is much better.
I don't understand your reasoning here. Perhaps those people who complain about Wal-Mart destroying the neighborhood end up shopping there because they have no other reasonable alternatives. I remember a grocery store in my home town that always sold produce at rock-bottom prices and always undersold Wal-Mart. They were forced out of business because Wal-Mart moved to town. People hated it at first, but soon began shopping there religiously. Wal-Mart beat out David's Grocery because they had billions of dollars of investment capital, armies of lawyers, a well-polished and well-funded marketing arm.
We need more consumer-quality software running native on Linux. I'm gonna buy a copy when I see it at Fry's. Hell, I bought a copy of Microsoft Office, and I truly believe they are what's wrong with software today. I applaud Corel's efforts.
The problem I have with the Windows platform is the very fact that a "click me now, I'm a virus" can be attached to an email and executed by a hapless user with merely a double-click. Try doing this in linux or BSD. Doesn't work that way.
Also, and perhaps most critical, most Windows users login as Administrator. Most *nix users understand that root is not for everyday use.
What I see as most interesting about this debate is the lack of clarity in the part of the arguees.
Let's look at the players here: First we have the shareholders and managers. The manager's job is to maximize the shareholder's profits. And profits are indeed maximized when a skilled worker in a foreign country will work for 25% of what an American worker demands! But that's what we want here in the States, isn't it? Don't we want a dominate corporate machine, world-renown wealth and prosperity? Isn't that the American Way?
Who here really believes in laissez-faire capitalism? Hands off the economy! Let the market decide! A world without borders!
The other players are the skilled laborers, both in India and in the States. Both groups are essentially the same archetype: an individual with marketable skills at the mercy of the market. We aren't able to be lumberjacks in Pheonix because there's no forest there. We're not able to work in IT in the States because Indians will do it for much less. There's no real entitlement here: we get what we can and that's all there is. Time to suck it up and get started on that masterpiece you've been putting off producing. The market owes you nothing, so don't complain when that's exactly what you get.
Now, when you survive this round of layoffs, ascend the corporate ladder and finally become a decision-maker in your IT company, you can work to keep jobs over here. But good luck with that one, because the overwhelming solution to the problem of maximizing shareholder value is: (you know the answer)...
I work for a rather large IT Services company in a call center in North Texas, USA. My company has just opened a big call center in Hydrobad, India, employing ~30 technicians at ~5$ per hour. We are told that new hires in India will be paid for by attrition in the states (we can hire 4 of them for the cost of one of us, and their real estate rates and costs of training are significantly lower, as well). Analysis done by bigwigs at my company projects this disparity to remain for at least a decade. I find it interesting that they do in fact see the end of it in my lifetime.
But, given my corrent position in the company, I don't see a problem with waiting it out and staying in IT. New hires, however, should consider this climate extremely hazardous. One bright spot: individuals with highly specialized backgrounds can find work in the states more easily. It would be difficult to hire and train an engineer in Hydrobad to build wireless networks, for example, so companies like Motorola, when they recover, will likely seek candidates here in the states.
Management types love to focus on attitude, because deep down they're just as big of a tender-hearted goof as you are. If you've ever been in a meeting where someone was fired in committee, you'll hear the debate centering on attitude, focussing on the clearly evident fact the Mr Soon-to-be-unemployed behaves like he doesn't really want to work here. Attitude.
#1 in the Atitude department is A Positive Outlook. You can demonstrate a positive outlook by NEVER CRITICISING SOMEONE OR SOMETHING UNLESS YOU HAVE A PROVEN ALTERNATIVE, and you focus on that alternative, rather than the problem. For example: "Sir, employee theft of office supplies is the single biggest cause of our double-digit drops in profit for three quarters in a row, but this online office supply store has prices that are 45% less than our current supplier, and they have those cool neon-colored PostIt notes in stock 24-7!" That might sound silly, but trust me, a positive attitude can get you through the night. I just got an 11% raise out of it.
[New York City High-Rise, Mahogany Board Room]
[A bunch of elderly suits sit around a huge oval table made from the largest Mahogany tree in Southeast Asia. The crystal on the table is worth more than your car...]
BIGWIG #1:
How was our 4th quarter revenue?
BIGWIG #2:
We're doing well. Improving, in fact.
BIGWIG #3:
Profits?
BIGWIG #2:
Profits are up.
BIGWIG #4:
Market Share?
BIGWIG #2:
We're #2 in sales of Personal Video Recorders...
BIGWIG #1, #3 and #4:
[together, in astonishment]
Number 2??!??
BIGWIG #2:
Number 2 behind EchoStar.
BIGWIG #1:
What can we do about that?
BIGWIG #2:
Build a better product than them?
BIGWIG #1, #3 and #4:
We already build a better product than them!
BIGWIG #5:
[sheepishly]
Sell it cheaper?
[The other Bigwigs stare him under the table and out the door]
The reason this post exists is related to the nature of the website in question, you gibbon! Have you been to wikipedia? You're the kind of Nimrod that gripes about paying taxes while he's driving down a government paved street eating a government subsidized hamburger. Crawl back into your bunker.
Why scary? My job is being moved overseas, to Hydrobad, India, because in some freak of coincidence, those geeks over there will work for 1/3 my $salary$. So, pardon me if I'm not the least bit surprised that executives in entertainment multi-national corporations find it useful that a computer program can simulate, realistically, the subtle timbre of the human voice. I can't wait for Dan Rather's replacement...
I KNEW there was a legal case here! FInally I can get you linux guru's to answer my questions promptly and politely in IRC without getting snubbed and ignored.
... one who doesn't see the inability of a child's doll to say obsenities as evidence that the doll needs a "personality transplant"? Forming the sounds of words society deems as obscene is only proof that something can speak, choosing not to say them is, in my opinion, evidence that it can think as well.
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Come on guys. The carcass isn't even cold yet (well, ok, it is cold, but)...
Why don't we just get rid of email altogether, creating instead some kind of system that sets up "friends lists", whereby you could designate only certain people whom you could send messages to and who could send you messages? Perhaps you came across a person online with whom you'd like to have an extended conversation. You'd introduce yourself to that person via some web app, and exchange identities via your messaging app, and then you could readily converse with that person. Businesses could automatically exchange identities over their networks. This would eliminate spam, because it could not be sent or received without the clients at both ends "knowing" each other.
Somebody get started on this.
Let me make sure I'm understanding this... I can make a copy of a CD I bought for my car, or for another CD player in my pool house, or for my walkman, but If my brother comes over I can't let him have one of the copies to take home because he's a jerk and would weasel it out of me anyway if I didn't offer it instead? I bought the damn thing! Why shouldn't I be able to send my mom in Puerto Rico a letter saying, "Mom, I just love this new Britney Spears CD!" and enclose a copy. Why should she have to buy her own copy. It's my mom! She's half blind and on public assistance! Give me a break.
I agree. I was thinking the same thing as the movie played: surely Dookoo isn't under the emperor's spell, a drone for the Dark Side. Yet, he was, and I should have known, given Lucas's penchant for puppeteering.
Absolutely true. If you look at the prequels critically, as films and not as special-effects demonstrations, you see glaring holes in logic, motivation, purpose, etc. Brin ties all the problems up in three paragraphs. Absolutely astounding.
You think your "objectivity" grants you license to illuminate the real reasons for the attacks on Sept. 11. You suggest that American foreign policy is so nefarious, so wicked that two gigantic stuctures and thousands of innocent civilians should die as some sort of repayment.
Remember that you're living in a nation run by imperfect humans who make diplomatic decisions every day. Where are you from anyway? Think about your largest city, and the two largest buildings in that city. Now, in your mind, bring those buildings down and crush the thousands working there, one by one, in the process. Think about all the funerals for the EMS workers, all the unknown heroes who will perish in that single act of "justice". Now, remember, you deserved it. Go down to ground zero wearing a plaquard reading "Our Own Foreign Policy Did This. It's Our Fault." I have no doubt your fellow countrymen would give you more than a black eye.
Any suggestion that unknown or plainly obvious foreign policy decisions led to the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and that these attacks were somehow justified because of such corrupt foreign policy, is completely assanine.
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I've been coding in Qt about as long as I've been coding in Java. If you think Qt is a beautiful API, you really gotta get out more.
Java from Sun is much better.
Try netbeans!
I don't understand your reasoning here. Perhaps those people who complain about Wal-Mart destroying the neighborhood end up shopping there because they have no other reasonable alternatives. I remember a grocery store in my home town that always sold produce at rock-bottom prices and always undersold Wal-Mart. They were forced out of business because Wal-Mart moved to town. People hated it at first, but soon began shopping there religiously. Wal-Mart beat out David's Grocery because they had billions of dollars of investment capital, armies of lawyers, a well-polished and well-funded marketing arm.
disingenuous? hyperbole?
We need more consumer-quality software running native on Linux. I'm gonna buy a copy when I see it at Fry's. Hell, I bought a copy of Microsoft Office, and I truly believe they are what's wrong with software today. I applaud Corel's efforts.
Actually, she says, "I know this, it's a unix system!"
The problem I have with the Windows platform is the very fact that a "click me now, I'm a virus" can be attached to an email and executed by a hapless user with merely a double-click. Try doing this in linux or BSD. Doesn't work that way.
Also, and perhaps most critical, most Windows users login as Administrator. Most *nix users understand that root is not for everyday use.
Just my $0.02
I have nothing to say
Then you guys need to take a class on Swing development. If you knew how to write good code, you would be experiencing such things. ;-)
What I see as most interesting about this debate is the lack of clarity in the part of the arguees.
Let's look at the players here: First we have the shareholders and managers. The manager's job is to maximize the shareholder's profits. And profits are indeed maximized when a skilled worker in a foreign country will work for 25% of what an American worker demands! But that's what we want here in the States, isn't it? Don't we want a dominate corporate machine, world-renown wealth and prosperity? Isn't that the American Way?
Who here really believes in laissez-faire capitalism? Hands off the economy! Let the market decide! A world without borders!
The other players are the skilled laborers, both in India and in the States. Both groups are essentially the same archetype: an individual with marketable skills at the mercy of the market. We aren't able to be lumberjacks in Pheonix because there's no forest there. We're not able to work in IT in the States because Indians will do it for much less. There's no real entitlement here: we get what we can and that's all there is. Time to suck it up and get started on that masterpiece you've been putting off producing. The market owes you nothing, so don't complain when that's exactly what you get.
Now, when you survive this round of layoffs, ascend the corporate ladder and finally become a decision-maker in your IT company, you can work to keep jobs over here. But good luck with that one, because the overwhelming solution to the problem of maximizing shareholder value is: (you know the answer)...
I work for a rather large IT Services company in a call center in North Texas, USA. My company has just opened a big call center in Hydrobad, India, employing ~30 technicians at ~5$ per hour. We are told that new hires in India will be paid for by attrition in the states (we can hire 4 of them for the cost of one of us, and their real estate rates and costs of training are significantly lower, as well). Analysis done by bigwigs at my company projects this disparity to remain for at least a decade. I find it interesting that they do in fact see the end of it in my lifetime.
But, given my corrent position in the company, I don't see a problem with waiting it out and staying in IT. New hires, however, should consider this climate extremely hazardous. One bright spot: individuals with highly specialized backgrounds can find work in the states more easily. It would be difficult to hire and train an engineer in Hydrobad to build wireless networks, for example, so companies like Motorola, when they recover, will likely seek candidates here in the states.
Management types love to focus on attitude, because deep down they're just as big of a tender-hearted goof as you are. If you've ever been in a meeting where someone was fired in committee, you'll hear the debate centering on attitude, focussing on the clearly evident fact the Mr Soon-to-be-unemployed behaves like he doesn't really want to work here. Attitude.
#1 in the Atitude department is A Positive Outlook. You can demonstrate a positive outlook by NEVER CRITICISING SOMEONE OR SOMETHING UNLESS YOU HAVE A PROVEN ALTERNATIVE, and you focus on that alternative, rather than the problem. For example: "Sir, employee theft of office supplies is the single biggest cause of our double-digit drops in profit for three quarters in a row, but this online office supply store has prices that are 45% less than our current supplier, and they have those cool neon-colored PostIt notes in stock 24-7!" That might sound silly, but trust me, a positive attitude can get you through the night. I just got an 11% raise out of it.
Yes, This Makes Tivo a Bad Guy Now.
Here's how it went down:
[New York City High-Rise, Mahogany Board Room]
[A bunch of elderly suits sit around a huge oval table made from the largest Mahogany tree in Southeast Asia. The crystal on the table is worth more than your car...]
BIGWIG #1:
How was our 4th quarter revenue?
BIGWIG #2:
We're doing well. Improving, in fact.
BIGWIG #3:
Profits?
BIGWIG #2:
Profits are up.
BIGWIG #4:
Market Share?
BIGWIG #2:
We're #2 in sales of Personal Video Recorders...
BIGWIG #1, #3 and #4:
[together, in astonishment]
Number 2??!??
BIGWIG #2:
Number 2 behind EchoStar.
BIGWIG #1:
What can we do about that?
BIGWIG #2:
Build a better product than them?
BIGWIG #1, #3 and #4:
We already build a better product than them!
BIGWIG #5:
[sheepishly]
Sell it cheaper?
[The other Bigwigs stare him under the table and out the door]
[Door closes, the Bigwigs look to the Lawyer]
LAWYER:
We could sue...
The reason this post exists is related to the nature of the website in question, you gibbon! Have you been to wikipedia? You're the kind of Nimrod that gripes about paying taxes while he's driving down a government paved street eating a government subsidized hamburger. Crawl back into your bunker.
I have a Radeon 8500 and a Pentium 3 933, but this game looks like crap! I'm running Mandrake 9.2. Why can't I make this work!
Why scary? My job is being moved overseas, to Hydrobad, India, because in some freak of coincidence, those geeks over there will work for 1/3 my $salary$. So, pardon me if I'm not the least bit surprised that executives in entertainment multi-national corporations find it useful that a computer program can simulate, realistically, the subtle timbre of the human voice. I can't wait for Dan Rather's replacement...
I KNEW there was a legal case here! FInally I can get you linux guru's to answer my questions promptly and politely in IRC without getting snubbed and ignored.
... one who doesn't see the inability of a child's doll to say obsenities as evidence that the doll needs a "personality transplant"? Forming the sounds of words society deems as obscene is only proof that something can speak, choosing not to say them is, in my opinion, evidence that it can think as well.
Come on guys. The carcass isn't even cold yet (well, ok, it is cold, but)...
My plan would greatly reduce internet traffic, right? Don't you get a lot of spam? Don't you want spam to disappear? This is the way. Follow.
Why don't we just get rid of email altogether, creating instead some kind of system that sets up "friends lists", whereby you could designate only certain people whom you could send messages to and who could send you messages? Perhaps you came across a person online with whom you'd like to have an extended conversation. You'd introduce yourself to that person via some web app, and exchange identities via your messaging app, and then you could readily converse with that person. Businesses could automatically exchange identities over their networks. This would eliminate spam, because it could not be sent or received without the clients at both ends "knowing" each other. Somebody get started on this.
Why don't these engineers ask, "why are we doing this?" There's got to be more important work that needs to be done somewhere.
Let me make sure I'm understanding this... I can make a copy of a CD I bought for my car, or for another CD player in my pool house, or for my walkman, but If my brother comes over I can't let him have one of the copies to take home because he's a jerk and would weasel it out of me anyway if I didn't offer it instead? I bought the damn thing! Why shouldn't I be able to send my mom in Puerto Rico a letter saying, "Mom, I just love this new Britney Spears CD!" and enclose a copy. Why should she have to buy her own copy. It's my mom! She's half blind and on public assistance! Give me a break.
I agree. I was thinking the same thing as the movie played: surely Dookoo isn't under the emperor's spell, a drone for the Dark Side. Yet, he was, and I should have known, given Lucas's penchant for puppeteering.
Absolutely true. If you look at the prequels critically, as films and not as special-effects demonstrations, you see glaring holes in logic, motivation, purpose, etc. Brin ties all the problems up in three paragraphs. Absolutely astounding.
You think your "objectivity" grants you license to illuminate the real reasons for the attacks on Sept. 11. You suggest that American foreign policy is so nefarious, so wicked that two gigantic stuctures and thousands of innocent civilians should die as some sort of repayment.
Remember that you're living in a nation run by imperfect humans who make diplomatic decisions every day. Where are you from anyway? Think about your largest city, and the two largest buildings in that city. Now, in your mind, bring those buildings down and crush the thousands working there, one by one, in the process. Think about all the funerals for the EMS workers, all the unknown heroes who will perish in that single act of "justice". Now, remember, you deserved it. Go down to ground zero wearing a plaquard reading "Our Own Foreign Policy Did This. It's Our Fault." I have no doubt your fellow countrymen would give you more than a black eye.
Any suggestion that unknown or plainly obvious foreign policy decisions led to the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and that these attacks were somehow justified because of such corrupt foreign policy, is completely assanine.