This an inevitable direction. As everybody migrates to Linux, I hope the quality of the products will also improve. The only problem now is that the main programs in Linux are volunteer projects. I don't think that volunteer projects will be enough to convince with the Linux on the long run. There should be more dedicated people to these applications, new business models have to be developed so that companies who work on these particular applications will somehow make money and support those applications.
One such example is KDE. I like KDE a lot, but it is still immature compared to Windows/Office. If only there was a company with full of programmers who work continously on KDE, then we would have a really competitive application.
Also more integration is neeeded. X Window is not the real answer for that particular job. It is designed to be way too strong. User interface is the number one issue.
I use Linux at job, but at home, it is Windows. When I think about it, Linux would cost me too much time if I had used it. For productivity and fun Windows is still way ahead of Linux.
First we critize MS when their securtity fails, now that their security is improving we still critize their efforts. Grow up.
People critize the way you critize and the lack of any meaning, any logic in your critizing. Now you tell people not to critize you, come on. You have to grow up first. You either don't understand your own logic, or you just want to critize at all cost even it means that you are not a person to be taken seriously.
I remember this story very well, because first it is reported as if the company closed its site due to Microsoft's efforts. Then when they opened it again, the news changed the story and said that actually Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo forced the company to close its door.
I can understand Microsoft bashing, but this is pure lie. Next time, maybe it will turn out to be only Sony. The story changes every time.
PocketPC used Arm processors. Palm used the Dragonball with longer battery life, but now they changed to Arm processors, Xscale too. Now as the component prices for PocketPC go down, and the batter life goes up, what will happen to Palm. Palm had the advantage but MS played it for the future and it seems that they are winning.
Regarding TabletPC, once you get better battery life, these devices will be part of everyday life. You won't need anythingelse. They will sell like PCs today. Tablet PC is not a necessity now of course, some people will use it, but it won't be a big hit in our daily life.
Instead of downplaying MS products, do something that can compete with it.
You don't know whether they used the word "sanctions" it is the guy who posted the story that uses that word, he also claims that there is a campaign from Microsoft, but there is no such campaing, obviously he/she makes up some of what he/she says.
There is really nothing new about this technology. iSilo (http://www.isilo.com/) for Palm is doing the same thing. It is able to reformat the page so that you don't have to scroll horizontally. It also converts the images. You can view the table cells vertically instead of horizontally. The only new thing in Opera is that, it is able to do all of these on the machine itself. iSilo does that table trick on the palm, but the page is preprocessed on the desktop and images are also converted to the palm format on the desktop too.
WinAmp thing is a totally different issue. WinAmp is about entertaining people. You look at it and while the music is playing the skin looks cool. But on the internet, you don't really care about your browser's skin. Why do we have full screen mode in the browsers if the skin issue was that important. Full screen idea undermines the claim that skin is important. Obviously people don't want to see the skin of the browser. While I am reading slashdot I don't remember really how my browser looks like, and I don't care about it.
Getting rid of unrelated stuff may help, but I believe they should also get rid of that skinnable interface thing. It just makes everything slower. I don't think that people give any importance to skins on their browsers. It is certainly not a plus at all, but it is a negative because it makes the browser a little bit more unresponsive because it redraws every detail there.
I think it is a very good decision. It will help the whole world to embrace Linux. The only problem is the standardization. I hope that will not hurt Linux. I hope this news is really true, because most of the other SlashDot posts are very biased and doesn't reflect the whole truth.
I laughed a lot to this Slashdot post when I read it, the guy is right, because this is not a switch campaign at all. It is a one page article, nothing serious and you post it as if it is something like Apple's switch.
Later on I may find posts on SlashDot which put different words on Microsoft's site on different pages together and claim that Microsoft is saying whatever you want them to say. This is funny.
If the extension-hiding is on, that is means that you don't want to edit extensions. So what is wrong is that, giving this type of an example. In Windows this is a good choice. If you want to edit extensions you turn on extensions and edit them. Turning off extensions means less clutter on Windows Explorer, because you only see the file names, and the type of the files are obvious from the icons.
I would normally agree with what you write, but you still think that Microsoft is a dominant evil, and anybody out there has to compete with it. This doesn't make any sense. Microsoft is a company whose main goal, as Sun's is, to make money. They make decisions based on this simple fact. They don't have to compete with everybodyelse on the market. They don't necessarily be anti-colloborative or the other way. They do business. Once you see this fact, you can better concentrate on what you are doing, rather than complaining to Slashdot and other magazines against Microsoft. Microsoft became too big now, that no matter what it does, or it doesn't everybody blames them feeling the comfort that nobody will object or dare to object to their ideas. Sun will continue to screw up, because they don't compete, they complain and cry, and sue. It is almost very funny, they complain that they should include Sun's Java in Windows distribution, but then they also go and sue Microsoft for distributing it on the web. This type of behavior will not get Sun anywhere, and only loosers behave like this, because they have no other chance for a success.
Anybody who knows the history of Sun will see that Sun is totally anti-collobarative company (like the X-window issue) and Sun was always tried to abuse its position, as it is in Java. I like Java and use it heavily, but Sun did everything to kill Java by being anti-collobarative and aggressive towards everybody. They recently tried to take advtange of Microsoft's anti-trust trial, but they will not get anywhere there too. They now try to pretend to be nicer to open source, but this is temporary, because of the Intel vs Sun Sparc issues. Sooner or later Linux will be a problem for Sun too.
I can assure you that, you are either lying, or you don't know what you are talking about.
I am a Java developer, and I don't remember this type of problems. On the contrary, I remember that Nescape was causing me a lot of problems in Java, not IE. Netscape'e earlier versions that is.
Here is the problem with your argument. If Microsoft was polluting Java, you have to first prove that, Java that came with Microsoft is cripped in some way or another. I am working in Java, and Microsoft's Java is quite faster than Sun's Java, because it is closer to the OS. The complaint from Sun is not that Microsoft's Java was crippled, but Microsoft's Java introduced certain features which Sun found it threating to its Java platform, because Sun wants its Java platform to stay totally hardware independent, because of the threat from Intel and Windows.
Without even considering that there were Java options from other companies too, it is not reasonable to claim that Microsoft simply destroyed Java. There were other options, and it is obvious that nobody uses them too.
Most important of all, which platform other than Microsoft's Windows do you see people using Java all the time for client purposes. I am using Linux at work as a desktop and there is no single Java program I am using. How about Macs, Apple supports Java, but there is still not important Client programs. How about Java Netscape from Netscape and Sun, how about Java Office from Corel? Did Microsoft destroyed them too? We have RAD technology which makes it easy for us to create almost anything in no time with the full performance of that platform.
I like Java, use it, my whole career is based on Java, but the truth is that Microsoft didn't kill Java.
It became so funny to see these claims, because everybody fails and can not compete, doesn't give any nice product, but then they come and blame Microsoft for it. This is the type of behavior which will not get anybody anywhere, unless some Judges will be affected by this type of lies and false claims.
Apple is also a monopoly in PowerPC machines. So the question depends on the definition of a sector. For example who is monopoly in Unix machines, high end machines and so on.
I am wondering, what is the phunishment for violating GPL. The problem in my mind is that, can the developers claim moneytary damages, because clearly Sigma Designs make money out of this. But on the other hand, how come a free product can claim a moneytary damage, if that's the case who gets the money?
I don't know how people claim that this new version is fast on GUI. Yesterday I tried in CompUSA and it was still slow, maybe a little bit faster but still scrollbars scroll after some time I press the mouse. No matter what, people will realize this difference and they will regret to buy Macs.
I agree with you, until then some silly slashdot guys will amuse themselves.
I also personally like Linux, because it allows me to learn programming and so on. Open source is a great thing and it should be always there. But before making wrong claims about what it can do and it can not do, they have to consider how a business runs. Profitability is the key reason, and that is the only reason why business people are interested in linux and open source.
Wait a minute, if this is a bribe, then if a company gives away free software and then charge for the services, does this also count as a bribe.
Do you think that any company which builds its own business on free software will bribe if it gives away free software to schools, governments and so on, so that it can later on charge for the services?
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One such example is KDE. I like KDE a lot, but it is still immature compared to Windows/Office. If only there was a company with full of programmers who work continously on KDE, then we would have a really competitive application.
Also more integration is neeeded. X Window is not the real answer for that particular job. It is designed to be way too strong. User interface is the number one issue.
I use Linux at job, but at home, it is Windows. When I think about it, Linux would cost me too much time if I had used it. For productivity and fun Windows is still way ahead of Linux.
First we critize MS when their securtity fails, now that their security is improving we still critize their efforts. Grow up. People critize the way you critize and the lack of any meaning, any logic in your critizing. Now you tell people not to critize you, come on. You have to grow up first. You either don't understand your own logic, or you just want to critize at all cost even it means that you are not a person to be taken seriously.
I can understand Microsoft bashing, but this is pure lie. Next time, maybe it will turn out to be only Sony. The story changes every time.
PocketPC used Arm processors. Palm used the Dragonball with longer battery life, but now they changed to Arm processors, Xscale too. Now as the component prices for PocketPC go down, and the batter life goes up, what will happen to Palm. Palm had the advantage but MS played it for the future and it seems that they are winning.
Regarding TabletPC, once you get better battery life, these devices will be part of everyday life. You won't need anythingelse. They will sell like PCs today. Tablet PC is not a necessity now of course, some people will use it, but it won't be a big hit in our daily life.
Instead of downplaying MS products, do something that can compete with it.
You don't know whether they used the word "sanctions" it is the guy who posted the story that uses that word, he also claims that there is a campaign from Microsoft, but there is no such campaing, obviously he/she makes up some of what he/she says.
I think this post was one of the best posts I have ever seen on Slashdot, very informative and insightfull.
There is really nothing new about this technology. iSilo (http://www.isilo.com/) for Palm is doing the same thing. It is able to reformat the page so that you don't have to scroll horizontally. It also converts the images. You can view the table cells vertically instead of horizontally. The only new thing in Opera is that, it is able to do all of these on the machine itself. iSilo does that table trick on the palm, but the page is preprocessed on the desktop and images are also converted to the palm format on the desktop too.
WinAmp thing is a totally different issue. WinAmp is about entertaining people. You look at it and while the music is playing the skin looks cool. But on the internet, you don't really care about your browser's skin. Why do we have full screen mode in the browsers if the skin issue was that important. Full screen idea undermines the claim that skin is important. Obviously people don't want to see the skin of the browser. While I am reading slashdot I don't remember really how my browser looks like, and I don't care about it.
Getting rid of unrelated stuff may help, but I believe they should also get rid of that skinnable interface thing. It just makes everything slower. I don't think that people give any importance to skins on their browsers. It is certainly not a plus at all, but it is a negative because it makes the browser a little bit more unresponsive because it redraws every detail there.
I think it is a very good decision. It will help the whole world to embrace Linux. The only problem is the standardization. I hope that will not hurt Linux. I hope this news is really true, because most of the other SlashDot posts are very biased and doesn't reflect the whole truth.
Later on I may find posts on SlashDot which put different words on Microsoft's site on different pages together and claim that Microsoft is saying whatever you want them to say. This is funny.
Don't get exited about these news, they are for amusement only.
I got sick of these type of accusations.
If the extension-hiding is on, that is means that you don't want to edit extensions. So what is wrong is that, giving this type of an example. In Windows this is a good choice. If you want to edit extensions you turn on extensions and edit them. Turning off extensions means less clutter on Windows Explorer, because you only see the file names, and the type of the files are obvious from the icons.
I would normally agree with what you write, but you still think that Microsoft is a dominant evil, and anybody out there has to compete with it. This doesn't make any sense. Microsoft is a company whose main goal, as Sun's is, to make money. They make decisions based on this simple fact. They don't have to compete with everybodyelse on the market. They don't necessarily be anti-colloborative or the other way. They do business. Once you see this fact, you can better concentrate on what you are doing, rather than complaining to Slashdot and other magazines against Microsoft. Microsoft became too big now, that no matter what it does, or it doesn't everybody blames them feeling the comfort that nobody will object or dare to object to their ideas. Sun will continue to screw up, because they don't compete, they complain and cry, and sue. It is almost very funny, they complain that they should include Sun's Java in Windows distribution, but then they also go and sue Microsoft for distributing it on the web. This type of behavior will not get Sun anywhere, and only loosers behave like this, because they have no other chance for a success.
Anybody who knows the history of Sun will see that Sun is totally anti-collobarative company (like the X-window issue) and Sun was always tried to abuse its position, as it is in Java. I like Java and use it heavily, but Sun did everything to kill Java by being anti-collobarative and aggressive towards everybody. They recently tried to take advtange of Microsoft's anti-trust trial, but they will not get anywhere there too. They now try to pretend to be nicer to open source, but this is temporary, because of the Intel vs Sun Sparc issues. Sooner or later Linux will be a problem for Sun too.
I am a Java developer, and I don't remember this type of problems. On the contrary, I remember that Nescape was causing me a lot of problems in Java, not IE. Netscape'e earlier versions that is.
Without even considering that there were Java options from other companies too, it is not reasonable to claim that Microsoft simply destroyed Java. There were other options, and it is obvious that nobody uses them too.
Most important of all, which platform other than Microsoft's Windows do you see people using Java all the time for client purposes. I am using Linux at work as a desktop and there is no single Java program I am using. How about Macs, Apple supports Java, but there is still not important Client programs. How about Java Netscape from Netscape and Sun, how about Java Office from Corel? Did Microsoft destroyed them too? We have RAD technology which makes it easy for us to create almost anything in no time with the full performance of that platform.
I like Java, use it, my whole career is based on Java, but the truth is that Microsoft didn't kill Java.
It became so funny to see these claims, because everybody fails and can not compete, doesn't give any nice product, but then they come and blame Microsoft for it. This is the type of behavior which will not get anybody anywhere, unless some Judges will be affected by this type of lies and false claims.
I am sick of these anti-Microsoft stupids.
Apple is also a monopoly in PowerPC machines. So the question depends on the definition of a sector. For example who is monopoly in Unix machines, high end machines and so on.
I don't know why but OS X may be way ahead of its hardware.
I am wondering, what is the phunishment for violating GPL. The problem in my mind is that, can the developers claim moneytary damages, because clearly Sigma Designs make money out of this. But on the other hand, how come a free product can claim a moneytary damage, if that's the case who gets the money?
I don't know how people claim that this new version is fast on GUI. Yesterday I tried in CompUSA and it was still slow, maybe a little bit faster but still scrollbars scroll after some time I press the mouse. No matter what, people will realize this difference and they will regret to buy Macs.
I also personally like Linux, because it allows me to learn programming and so on. Open source is a great thing and it should be always there. But before making wrong claims about what it can do and it can not do, they have to consider how a business runs. Profitability is the key reason, and that is the only reason why business people are interested in linux and open source.
Do you think that any company which builds its own business on free software will bribe if it gives away free software to schools, governments and so on, so that it can later on charge for the services?
Be smart and honest please.