Show me where Windows "intentionally hobbles" google desktop search or blocks it from working, or shuts Google out in any way....
I just downloaded and installed Google Desktop Search on my Vista-based laptop right here, while I was writing this comment. Seems to work just fine. Now, tell me, what's the problem again?
Well, all other things aside, I don't see McAfee being threatened as a particularly bad thing.... I've seen more problems caused by Norton and McAfee's newest "security centers" than by basically any virus or worm, from random corruption of data, to crashing email systems, to instability, and slowness, and bloat...
If Microsoft can bundle a functional security system into windows, so that no one ever has to touch the steaming pile of shite that is McAfee or Norton, GREAT.
to be honest, what you're talking about as "balance issues" basically sounds like an exact, detailed, and highly accurate description of towns and cities all across america. Some of that sounds like things even happening in my own state (connecticut)....
well, sure, morality is one of the issues involved, but that doesn't make it any less illegal, and any less shady to go copying stuff willy-nilly while trying to tell yourself that it's fine.
Okay, this seems kinda bullshit to me... Why are we trying to prove that piracy, an illegal act, is somehow "good"?
Sure, there are certain issues to consider in terms of pricing and whatnot; some products cost way more than they should, or at least way more what some people can afford or are willing to pay, but there ARE always other completely legal options. If you don't want to pay for microsoft products, yell at microsoft, change your line of business, go open source, find cheaper alternatives, etc etc. Don't just sit there and pirate the software and then start spouting nonsense about how it's actually GOOD for the company because it's saving them the money for paying for free trials!
PIRACY IS ILLEGAL. Whether or not it's "helping" the company, IT'S ILLEGAL. STOP PRETENDING THAT YOU'RE DOING THEM A FAVOR.
The human power of rationalization is quite strong indeed; no one is stupid enough to think that piracy is legal, and obviously people feel bad about it, so they try and make up stories saying how they're actually helping people by doing it. Yes, there are definitely valid points that need to be examined, as I said before, but still, it's illegal, and everyone knows it, so stop trying to justify it.
All I can say is, I hope their linux systems run better than some of the nokia linux-based hardware I've seen, such as the N800 that you can brick by installing software on or looking at wrong.... you can recover them, but only by using linux commandline-only software on a desktop (that was a good waste of an afternoon).
I love linux, but just running linux doesn't automatically make things perfect. (awesome, sure, but not perfect. this is slashdot afterall).
It doesn't matter if the patent is "worth" anything, the fact of the matter right now is, if something IS infringing on that patent, it's breaking the law, and until the patent gets revoked or the laws change, that's the way it is. Even if all 235 get struck down, that's still a hell of a lot of judgments, court cases, and legal work to be involved.
We can't just ignore it because "software patents are wrong". Until the courts agree, we have to live with it.
I wonder, the website encrypts the copyrighted haiku and whatnot, and the keys become illegal circumvention devices, but I wonder, does the fact that that website is basically a mockery of the law, or at least a parody, or a joke, or at the very least, simply not meant to be taken seriously, mean that these joke keys are unenforceable? Could you really challenge someone using these keys, or would a court say that there is no serious basis to the material on the site.... it's an interesting question (and I wonder if it could create a precedent that could impact the real dmca...)
I work at a music store and I see people buy DAT tapes on a weekly basis... they're certainly not flying off the shelves, but they're not exactly sitting there collecting dust either.
Maybe DAT wasn't a huge worldwide phenomenon, but they certainly aren't a "flop"!
I don't think it really matters whether apple "intended" it to be easy to hack, I think it's more of the fact that every single piece of "cool" hardware with the potential for added functionality has been hacked or broken within an extremely short amount of time. Maybe rather than intending it to be easy to hack, Apple instead decided to not spend as much money on implementing all kinds of crazy protection schemes, thus allowing a higher profit margin. Which, in my mind, makes a hell of a lot of sense! :
It does seem like the norm these days is for companies to build equipment with huge amounts of power, but then they lock it down in an effort to.. protect... something... PSP for example; I don't know exactly what the point of locking it down was, but obviously it didn't help much. Kinda like anti-features, or un-products; you have all this potential and you lock it down. Lucky for us, apple isn't quite so far up their own butts as Sony and whatnot are, so we have a sweet new product that we can do sweet stuff on without having to go through hoops to crack it!:)
i dunno, from the brief description, it looks like she's completely in the right, and it would require some pretty severely screwed up readings of the laws to make her lose in court. Unless there's some other loopholes buried in there, it seems about as straightforward as legal issues can ever be!
I'm definitely interested to see this play out in court... it'll be an extremely interesting legal battle, whether or not it sets any precedents or changes anything for anyone.
Y'see, in the UK you can actually get places without a car. You have trains (dodgy though they may be from time to time) to get between cities, the underground to get around london, walking paths throughout towns and villages, markets to get your food within walking distance of your homes, busses to get around larger areas without driving, etc....
It is completely possible to get by without having to drive everywhere, so your overall 'need' for gasoline is significantly reduced.
In america, the closest food market can be MILES from your house with no other way to get there besides either a suicidal run down the side of main roads, or a 10-15 minute drive (or more!), and just getting to work, well, with very few exceptions driving is mandatory.
I'm not judging which is better; england developed one way, america developed another way, but I do feel that the significantly increased NEED for gasoline in america makes it so that the increased prices (even though they are lower than everyone else's) means that the increases hit us a lot harder than they might hit you. It doesn't explain it away, or make it better, it just seems like everyone else kinda forgets how much we NEED to drive here, and how those little increases can increase your monthly gas bills by huge amounts.
(disclaimer: I lived in england for three years so I have some experience with the transport there. I know it's not perfect or all encompassing, but the infrastructure is there, infinitely more than it is here)
does anyone take these Christian groups seriously enough for this to actually be a problem?
Christian groups seem to decry basically everything and everyone, and they seem to love dropping the "porn" bombshell left and right, but outside their little communities and fellow zealots, is there really any threat whatsoever from these people? And, as such, is this really newsworthy? I'd really only begin to worry if people in Congress start talking about it.
and, as a slight aside, am I the only one who have noticed that kids who grow up in these perfectly wholesome and innocent Christian-value-centric homes seem to end up being significantly maladjusted and immature in a sense that even though they end up as good adults, they're really completely unprepared to actually live in the world?
*sigh*... i think everyone needs a bit of porn in their lives. how else are you supposed to know what goes where?:D
I think the "poor judgement" comes from the fact that if he discovered the vulnerability, he should have contacted news corp or myspace or messaged Tom and told them that he's discovered a flaw in the system, and send them all the information on how to do it. Or, if that didn't work, he could have contacted one of the more notable security firms and had them communicate on his behalf if the myspace people didn't pay attention to him.
That way, he could have been celebrated by myspace and thanked for closing a potential hole in their system, and everyone would have gone home much much happier, and without any felony convictions on their record....
*THAT* would have been good judgement.
You seem to think that it would have been better for him to crash the entire site and destroy tons of things and cause untold actual loss as a result. I don't quite understand what part of that strikes you as a good plan...
since when has microsoft cared about bad press? they seem to get an awful lot of bad press, but they keep on keepin' on, and haven't seemed to slow down all that much...
I wasn't doubting the illegitmacy or anything like that, I was just curious whether there were actual documented cases of this happening; people throw around conspiracy theories all the time and sometimes you just want actual facts so you know that all these things people are saying have some basis in reality!
I don't want to be a dick or anything, but is there any proof this has actually happened? It's pretty easy to say that someone got "disappeared" when there's no one there to even say it happened. I can say that the government imprisoned my friend Gary without telling anyone when/why/how/where/whatever, and the only proof is that I said that it happened. When, in fact, I don't even know anyone named Gary.
But yeah, are there any examples of this actually happening? or is it one of those paranoid conspiracy theories where the fact that there's not a shred of proof whatsoever is in fact even MORE proof that it's real?
I'm honestly curious; I have a vague recollection of possibly reading about that happening, but I'd be interested in some direct evidence just for my own knowledge!
Just out of curiousity, how is it supposed to correlate IP address to physical location in the world?
I thought that all the attempts to connect IP to physical locations had pretty much died of non-maintenance, and impossibility of getting all the location information from ISP's in anything remotely resembling realtime?
that seems like an awful big hurdle to the operation of this thing to me...
You gotta think outside the box, or perhaps the cubicle...
it's all about the trades.
Carpentry, construction, unionized jobs for the states and federal governments, electricians, plumbers, roofers (roofers make BIG bucks), masonry, electronics repair, fixing musicial instruments, HVAC (another ridiculously lucrative field), structured wiring technicians, warehouse workers, shipping companies, trucking, etc etc etc...
pretty much all those jobs are involved with actually building stuff and putting stuff together, or doing the kind of work that most people simply do not know how to do, but which are absolutely vital to the core of a modern human society. many of them have techological aspects, but most of them aren't going to be behind a desk. And, they're not going away. No development in computers is going to make us not want heating and cooling in our houses and workplaces. Nothing to do with alternative energy is going to make us not want running water. And you can't outsource the guy who fixes your sink to India.
And with todays internet shopping culture, the people in warehouses and shipping companies must be doing record business.
America seems to have forgotten that the trades are absolutely vital and respectable jobs... it's sad, and it can lead to a decline in the fundamentals of a society.
so yeah, next time you're like "oh no, such and such computer development is going to put everyone out on the street with no job prospects ever again", just remember that there's a lot more to the job market than monster.com and help desk jobs!
The thing that really gets me about the brain, that really messes with my head when i think about it, is the fact that due to nerve transmission rates, the amounts of time it takes for the chemical reactions and physical changes to occur in our sensory systems, and whatever other delays occur between outside world and perception from to the nature of the real world, what we perceive is actually the past.
The delay might not be all that much, indeed the fact that we can function the way we do shows that our mental latency is pretty darn low, but we're always a tiny bit behind what's actually happening in reality around us.
if you start thinking about the consequences of this, such as the perceptions during violent/sudden death (ie, a bullet into the brain or getting blown up), or even lesser things like walking into a wall or even just any interaction at ALL with the world, it's really quite awe inspiring to think about the fact that everything we feel, already happened. and, depending on more metaphysical things like the soul or the mind being separate from your body (which is another interesting concept indeed), it might be possible that you're actually already dead, you just don't know it yet. if you get blown up instantly, do you perceive it? or does your mind go away before those nerve signals ever reach it? or if your mind is separate, does it exist up until those signals reach it?
maybe it's just me, but I find that pretty interesting.
It actually seems to me that the macintosh gui remained stagnant and pretty horrifically uninspired for a number of years, whereas windows changed a lot and got to its 95ish style pretty quick.
things did change pretty quickly though after that; apple completely blew away the competition whereas windows stayed the same for three or four version (95, 98, 2k)... now it seems like vista may have caught up again a bit. hard to say though..
there ARE lots of chicks, yes, but they're all 15 years old! (claiming to be 99, and that they're "bi", and "married" to their favourite female friend from middle school, haha)
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Show me where Windows "intentionally hobbles" google desktop search or blocks it from working, or shuts Google out in any way....
I just downloaded and installed Google Desktop Search on my Vista-based laptop right here, while I was writing this comment. Seems to work just fine. Now, tell me, what's the problem again?
Well, all other things aside, I don't see McAfee being threatened as a particularly bad thing. ... I've seen more problems caused by Norton and McAfee's newest "security centers" than by basically any virus or worm, from random corruption of data, to crashing email systems, to instability, and slowness, and bloat...
If Microsoft can bundle a functional security system into windows, so that no one ever has to touch the steaming pile of shite that is McAfee or Norton, GREAT.
to be honest, what you're talking about as "balance issues" basically sounds like an exact, detailed, and highly accurate description of towns and cities all across america. Some of that sounds like things even happening in my own state (connecticut)....
maybe maxis did 'too' good a job!
well, sure, morality is one of the issues involved, but that doesn't make it any less illegal, and any less shady to go copying stuff willy-nilly while trying to tell yourself that it's fine.
Okay, this seems kinda bullshit to me... Why are we trying to prove that piracy, an illegal act, is somehow "good"?
Sure, there are certain issues to consider in terms of pricing and whatnot; some products cost way more than they should, or at least way more what some people can afford or are willing to pay, but there ARE always other completely legal options. If you don't want to pay for microsoft products, yell at microsoft, change your line of business, go open source, find cheaper alternatives, etc etc. Don't just sit there and pirate the software and then start spouting nonsense about how it's actually GOOD for the company because it's saving them the money for paying for free trials!
PIRACY IS ILLEGAL. Whether or not it's "helping" the company, IT'S ILLEGAL. STOP PRETENDING THAT YOU'RE DOING THEM A FAVOR.
The human power of rationalization is quite strong indeed; no one is stupid enough to think that piracy is legal, and obviously people feel bad about it, so they try and make up stories saying how they're actually helping people by doing it. Yes, there are definitely valid points that need to be examined, as I said before, but still, it's illegal, and everyone knows it, so stop trying to justify it.
All I can say is, I hope their linux systems run better than some of the nokia linux-based hardware I've seen, such as the N800 that you can brick by installing software on or looking at wrong.... you can recover them, but only by using linux commandline-only software on a desktop (that was a good waste of an afternoon).
I love linux, but just running linux doesn't automatically make things perfect. (awesome, sure, but not perfect. this is slashdot afterall).
It doesn't matter if the patent is "worth" anything, the fact of the matter right now is, if something IS infringing on that patent, it's breaking the law, and until the patent gets revoked or the laws change, that's the way it is. Even if all 235 get struck down, that's still a hell of a lot of judgments, court cases, and legal work to be involved.
We can't just ignore it because "software patents are wrong". Until the courts agree, we have to live with it.
I wonder, the website encrypts the copyrighted haiku and whatnot, and the keys become illegal circumvention devices, but I wonder, does the fact that that website is basically a mockery of the law, or at least a parody, or a joke, or at the very least, simply not meant to be taken seriously, mean that these joke keys are unenforceable? Could you really challenge someone using these keys, or would a court say that there is no serious basis to the material on the site.... it's an interesting question (and I wonder if it could create a precedent that could impact the real dmca...)
I work at a music store and I see people buy DAT tapes on a weekly basis... they're certainly not flying off the shelves, but they're not exactly sitting there collecting dust either.
Maybe DAT wasn't a huge worldwide phenomenon, but they certainly aren't a "flop"!
Obviously they CAN have it both ways, because they do, for now at least...
:(
it's pretty sad, really
I don't think it really matters whether apple "intended" it to be easy to hack, I think it's more of the fact that every single piece of "cool" hardware with the potential for added functionality has been hacked or broken within an extremely short amount of time. Maybe rather than intending it to be easy to hack, Apple instead decided to not spend as much money on implementing all kinds of crazy protection schemes, thus allowing a higher profit margin. Which, in my mind, makes a hell of a lot of sense! :
.. something... PSP for example; I don't know exactly what the point of locking it down was, but obviously it didn't help much. Kinda like anti-features, or un-products; you have all this potential and you lock it down. Lucky for us, apple isn't quite so far up their own butts as Sony and whatnot are, so we have a sweet new product that we can do sweet stuff on without having to go through hoops to crack it! :)
It does seem like the norm these days is for companies to build equipment with huge amounts of power, but then they lock it down in an effort to.. protect.
LOL :D
:)
that's hilarious, to the point where it's probably true.. can you think of any particular instances of that happening? I'm curious now
i dunno, from the brief description, it looks like she's completely in the right, and it would require some pretty severely screwed up readings of the laws to make her lose in court. Unless there's some other loopholes buried in there, it seems about as straightforward as legal issues can ever be!
I'm definitely interested to see this play out in court... it'll be an extremely interesting legal battle, whether or not it sets any precedents or changes anything for anyone.
Y'see, in the UK you can actually get places without a car. You have trains (dodgy though they may be from time to time) to get between cities, the underground to get around london, walking paths throughout towns and villages, markets to get your food within walking distance of your homes, busses to get around larger areas without driving, etc....
It is completely possible to get by without having to drive everywhere, so your overall 'need' for gasoline is significantly reduced.
In america, the closest food market can be MILES from your house with no other way to get there besides either a suicidal run down the side of main roads, or a 10-15 minute drive (or more!), and just getting to work, well, with very few exceptions driving is mandatory.
I'm not judging which is better; england developed one way, america developed another way, but I do feel that the significantly increased NEED for gasoline in america makes it so that the increased prices (even though they are lower than everyone else's) means that the increases hit us a lot harder than they might hit you. It doesn't explain it away, or make it better, it just seems like everyone else kinda forgets how much we NEED to drive here, and how those little increases can increase your monthly gas bills by huge amounts.
(disclaimer: I lived in england for three years so I have some experience with the transport there. I know it's not perfect or all encompassing, but the infrastructure is there, infinitely more than it is here)
*sigh*... so much for getting any sleep tonight :(
does anyone take these Christian groups seriously enough for this to actually be a problem?
... i think everyone needs a bit of porn in their lives. how else are you supposed to know what goes where? :D
Christian groups seem to decry basically everything and everyone, and they seem to love dropping the "porn" bombshell left and right, but outside their little communities and fellow zealots, is there really any threat whatsoever from these people? And, as such, is this really newsworthy? I'd really only begin to worry if people in Congress start talking about it.
and, as a slight aside, am I the only one who have noticed that kids who grow up in these perfectly wholesome and innocent Christian-value-centric homes seem to end up being significantly maladjusted and immature in a sense that even though they end up as good adults, they're really completely unprepared to actually live in the world?
*sigh*
I think the "poor judgement" comes from the fact that if he discovered the vulnerability, he should have contacted news corp or myspace or messaged Tom and told them that he's discovered a flaw in the system, and send them all the information on how to do it. Or, if that didn't work, he could have contacted one of the more notable security firms and had them communicate on his behalf if the myspace people didn't pay attention to him.
That way, he could have been celebrated by myspace and thanked for closing a potential hole in their system, and everyone would have gone home much much happier, and without any felony convictions on their record....
*THAT* would have been good judgement.
You seem to think that it would have been better for him to crash the entire site and destroy tons of things and cause untold actual loss as a result. I don't quite understand what part of that strikes you as a good plan...
since when has microsoft cared about bad press? they seem to get an awful lot of bad press, but they keep on keepin' on, and haven't seemed to slow down all that much...
I wasn't doubting the illegitmacy or anything like that, I was just curious whether there were actual documented cases of this happening; people throw around conspiracy theories all the time and sometimes you just want actual facts so you know that all these things people are saying have some basis in reality!
Thanks for the information!
I don't want to be a dick or anything, but is there any proof this has actually happened?
It's pretty easy to say that someone got "disappeared" when there's no one there to even say it happened. I can say that the government imprisoned my friend Gary without telling anyone when/why/how/where/whatever, and the only proof is that I said that it happened. When, in fact, I don't even know anyone named Gary.
But yeah, are there any examples of this actually happening? or is it one of those paranoid conspiracy theories where the fact that there's not a shred of proof whatsoever is in fact even MORE proof that it's real?
I'm honestly curious; I have a vague recollection of possibly reading about that happening, but I'd be interested in some direct evidence just for my own knowledge!
Just out of curiousity, how is it supposed to correlate IP address to physical location in the world?
I thought that all the attempts to connect IP to physical locations had pretty much died of non-maintenance, and impossibility of getting all the location information from ISP's in anything remotely resembling realtime?
that seems like an awful big hurdle to the operation of this thing to me...
has something changed?
You gotta think outside the box, or perhaps the cubicle...
it's all about the trades.
Carpentry, construction, unionized jobs for the states and federal governments, electricians, plumbers, roofers (roofers make BIG bucks), masonry, electronics repair, fixing musicial instruments, HVAC (another ridiculously lucrative field), structured wiring technicians, warehouse workers, shipping companies, trucking, etc etc etc...
pretty much all those jobs are involved with actually building stuff and putting stuff together, or doing the kind of work that most people simply do not know how to do, but which are absolutely vital to the core of a modern human society. many of them have techological aspects, but most of them aren't going to be behind a desk. And, they're not going away. No development in computers is going to make us not want heating and cooling in our houses and workplaces. Nothing to do with alternative energy is going to make us not want running water. And you can't outsource the guy who fixes your sink to India.
And with todays internet shopping culture, the people in warehouses and shipping companies must be doing record business.
America seems to have forgotten that the trades are absolutely vital and respectable jobs... it's sad, and it can lead to a decline in the fundamentals of a society.
so yeah, next time you're like "oh no, such and such computer development is going to put everyone out on the street with no job prospects ever again", just remember that there's a lot more to the job market than monster.com and help desk jobs!
The thing that really gets me about the brain, that really messes with my head when i think about it, is the fact that due to nerve transmission rates, the amounts of time it takes for the chemical reactions and physical changes to occur in our sensory systems, and whatever other delays occur between outside world and perception from to the nature of the real world, what we perceive is actually the past.
The delay might not be all that much, indeed the fact that we can function the way we do shows that our mental latency is pretty darn low, but we're always a tiny bit behind what's actually happening in reality around us.
if you start thinking about the consequences of this, such as the perceptions during violent/sudden death (ie, a bullet into the brain or getting blown up), or even lesser things like walking into a wall or even just any interaction at ALL with the world, it's really quite awe inspiring to think about the fact that everything we feel, already happened. and, depending on more metaphysical things like the soul or the mind being separate from your body (which is another interesting concept indeed), it might be possible that you're actually already dead, you just don't know it yet. if you get blown up instantly, do you perceive it? or does your mind go away before those nerve signals ever reach it? or if your mind is separate, does it exist up until those signals reach it?
maybe it's just me, but I find that pretty interesting.
I would tend to agree with you..
It actually seems to me that the macintosh gui remained stagnant and pretty horrifically uninspired for a number of years, whereas windows changed a lot and got to its 95ish style pretty quick.
things did change pretty quickly though after that; apple completely blew away the competition whereas windows stayed the same for three or four version (95, 98, 2k)... now it seems like vista may have caught up again a bit. hard to say though..
there ARE lots of chicks, yes, but they're all 15 years old! (claiming to be 99, and that they're "bi", and "married" to their favourite female friend from middle school, haha)
;)
myspace is certainly addictive though