"Five years ago, Miguel committed the first code for Gnumeric to CVS. In a testament to the quality of the code several lines are still in use."
Slightly offtopic(sorry!), but i wonder if this can be said of linux. What is the oldest code that has proven the test of time in the linux kernel and is their anything from the way back 1.x or 0.x days, or has it all been replaced(for better or worse)?
"If half the photons go out the back, you have to drive it twice as hard to get the same usable brightness! Bad idea..."
But they look so cool! Honestly, they do look cool, and that will drive research to improve their lifetime, since a product like this will be popular and the company that is doing the R&D for the cellphones with this tech will know this. First generation tech, just like x.0 software releases aren't always great, but they get better in time.
" There probably are planets out there with intelligent life -- maybe lots of them -- but they are so far away that it is impossible to have any contact with them."
someone is sounding like a pessimist... tisk, tisk. 100 years ago, a couple guys were playing around with this idea of flight, that kinda took off didn't it? Space travael is a big step, give it time.
that is what palm did: sell the pda, and make the development tools free so that anyone can make a game... easy entry means zillions of apps, and more apps is a good thing... see also handspring, that made it's peripheral addon free to use, which made cool gps toys and the like more common, as the entry into the market was cheap!
galette also did a famous campaign like this... "give the razors out for near free, and make your money selling blades"...or something like that. seems to be a good strategy...
"Whereas, with desktop PCs, you have several more options, like upgrading the CPU or buying a new graphics card. This means that the average desktop will have a longer upgradeable life than the average laptop."
ya, you can upgrade, but many, many don't. how many ma & pops open up their computer and upgrade their video card? The majority of people arn't savvy enough to figure out how to handle those darn windows and buttons on the screen, why would they even consider opening up their computer?
if apple is shooting itself with the many free programs that come bundled with macos X... The whole sherlock vs. watson thing, where apple made a product VERY similar to a competing program, or their new font management system in Jaguar, which someone said "companies made a living off of", and now that business is gone, integrated into the macos. Jaguar is awesome, and the software that comes with it is top notch, but when do you draw the line between building software in house, and relying on developers to write software for you?
"I work for an educational software company... and I've never heard of anyone asking for linux versions of any of our products. If you want companies to make linux versions, you need to get on the ball and ask for them... hint hint..."
ok, i am asking: "does your software run on linux? if not, please port it!"
" I was personally involved in pushing for linux use in school networks, and met with huge amounts of resistance - especailly immediately after that point at which MS threatened to audit Portland public schools with their gestapo license enforcement crap"
O please, I am a student at a Keizer,Oregon school(right next to Salem), and we regularly get audited by Microsoft, it happens every couple years, we are all legit, and nothing happens... I sure Portland is audited just like us, why would they be worrying now?
"The little Apple camera hoobajoob is cool, but Jobs made it sound like it was physically impossible to put a camera on top of a monitor until the glorious miracle of iSight."
excluding the emac(and old teardrop imacs), aren't all the apple displays flatpanel?... how the hell do you balance a camera ontop of a friggin flat panel?
don't laugh, a mac wouldn't have been a bad idea for the Army. Want an easy GUI for the non-techs to be able to use? double-check compared to windows. Want a unixy console for the l33t sysadmins? check. Want ms office? check.
"You want infantrymen who at least have some familiarty with office and windows to try learning bash or mutt?"
Oh please! if you lock down and customize the installs as much as i would hope, mutt wouldn't even be installed, and bash would likely be hidden away. Do the majority of the personel know how to access a dos console in win2000? No? well then they shouldn't have trouble NOT knowing where the Konsole is.
the whole point is, is that catching the snitch is SO hard, that is doing it means that you deserve the win! It shouldn't be a comment feat to catch the snitch.
A wiki might be interesting, if you could seperate the author's text from the wiki edited text. A wiki, by the way, is a web system where anyone can edit any page on a website, just by clicking an edit link on the page, which loads that page into a neat little form.... www.wikipedia.org, among others are neat to look at...
"Since when does six months of labour constitute a 'life's work?'"
Actually, it is more like 6 YEARS, which is a significant time spent on a project. And ya, he does come off as a bit pissy, but ya know what, cut the man some slack... He spent a long time doing something that(even if he shouldn't have) he thought would lead to an income, or atleast, he thought it SHOULD lead to one given the interests corporations have had in his project.
It is GPLed software, and that is how it goes sometimes, a company can 'steal' your project code and not hire you or pay homage to your hardwork, that pissed this guy off.
"I have spent years explaining to relatives that the same file name in 2 places is 2 different files."
Two peices of paper with the same title on them in two different folders in a file cabinet are still two different peices of paper, regardless of if they have the same title on them... I call BS if you say that you can tell them that and they still look cross-eyed at you.
"It now fits my main uses, which are reading academic papers, writing notes, and doing calculations.
My only question to him is: How could those needs not be met in a Windows XP envrioment?"
Well i have a second question... why not have buy a cheapo laptop for 300 or 400 dollars and save big money over a tableyPC, and the laptop supports Linux fully? or why not just buy a palm?
"Sounds like Microsoft trying to crush linux in the tablet pc industry the same way they did BeOS in the PC industry..."
No, to me it sounds like Mircosoft trying to create a demand for what they supply... Convince users that they need a tabletPC rather than a laptop, and then sell them that tabletPC for a nice profit.
Microsoft went into the console market with 2 billion dollars set iside... they said "ok, we got 2 billion, buy a cool console and sell it to as many people as possible, we can make money later"... the plan worked, and they are number 2 in the game market.
i agreed with you, until that arrogant statement at the end... I am an American, I like having an Army that makes me feel safe, but I still believe our's is too large and too expensive. We SHOULD cut back.
But as for being liberated.... Why don't you go ask the people who were shreaded in the plastic recycler (while their family watched) for not being a loyal follower, and see what they think about being liberated....
who cares if you think we had just cause going over their to Iraq(i am iffy on our 'just' cause) but the fact is: we took a bad, oppresive, evil man out of power. That is ALWAYS a Good Thing.
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Slightly offtopic(sorry!), but i wonder if this can be said of linux. What is the oldest code that has proven the test of time in the linux kernel and is their anything from the way back 1.x or 0.x days, or has it all been replaced(for better or worse)?
"If half the photons go out the back, you have to drive it twice as hard to get the same usable brightness! Bad idea..."
But they look so cool! Honestly, they do look cool, and that will drive research to improve their lifetime, since a product like this will be popular and the company that is doing the R&D for the cellphones with this tech will know this. First generation tech, just like x.0 software releases aren't always great, but they get better in time.
"its now linuXBox!! *grin*"
:)
ahem. that is GNU/linuxXBox, please.
someone is sounding like a pessimist... tisk, tisk. 100 years ago, a couple guys were playing around with this idea of flight, that kinda took off didn't it? Space travael is a big step, give it time.
that is what palm did: sell the pda, and make the development tools free so that anyone can make a game... easy entry means zillions of apps, and more apps is a good thing... see also handspring, that made it's peripheral addon free to use, which made cool gps toys and the like more common, as the entry into the market was cheap!
galette also did a famous campaign like this... "give the razors out for near free, and make your money selling blades"...or something like that. seems to be a good strategy...
"Whereas, with desktop PCs, you have several more options, like upgrading the CPU or buying a new graphics card. This means that the average desktop will have a longer upgradeable life than the average laptop."
ya, you can upgrade, but many, many don't. how many ma & pops open up their computer and upgrade their video card? The majority of people arn't savvy enough to figure out how to handle those darn windows and buttons on the screen, why would they even consider opening up their computer?
"Has anything good ever come out of DARPA?" ...the internet.
if apple is shooting itself with the many free programs that come bundled with macos X... The whole sherlock vs. watson thing, where apple made a product VERY similar to a competing program, or their new font management system in Jaguar, which someone said "companies made a living off of", and now that business is gone, integrated into the macos. Jaguar is awesome, and the software that comes with it is top notch, but when do you draw the line between building software in house, and relying on developers to write software for you?
"I work for an educational software company... and I've never heard of anyone asking for linux versions of any of our products. If you want companies to make linux versions, you need to get on the ball and ask for them... hint hint..."
ok, i am asking: "does your software run on linux? if not, please port it!"
" I was personally involved in pushing for linux use in school networks, and met with huge amounts of resistance - especailly immediately after that point at which MS threatened to audit Portland public schools with their gestapo license enforcement crap"
O please, I am a student at a Keizer,Oregon school(right next to Salem), and we regularly get audited by Microsoft, it happens every couple years, we are all legit, and nothing happens... I sure Portland is audited just like us, why would they be worrying now?
"The little Apple camera hoobajoob is cool, but Jobs made it sound like it was physically impossible to put a camera on top of a monitor until the glorious miracle of iSight."
excluding the emac(and old teardrop imacs), aren't all the apple displays flatpanel?... how the hell do you balance a camera ontop of a friggin flat panel?
don't laugh, a mac wouldn't have been a bad idea for the Army. Want an easy GUI for the non-techs to be able to use? double-check compared to windows. Want a unixy console for the l33t sysadmins? check. Want ms office? check.
"You want infantrymen who at least have some familiarty with office and windows to try learning bash or mutt?"
Oh please! if you lock down and customize the installs as much as i would hope, mutt wouldn't even be installed, and bash would likely be hidden away. Do the majority of the personel know how to access a dos console in win2000? No? well then they shouldn't have trouble NOT knowing where the Konsole is.
the whole point is, is that catching the snitch is SO hard, that is doing it means that you deserve the win! It shouldn't be a comment feat to catch the snitch.
A wiki might be interesting, if you could seperate the author's text from the wiki edited text. A wiki, by the way, is a web system where anyone can edit any page on a website, just by clicking an edit link on the page, which loads that page into a neat little form.... www.wikipedia.org, among others are neat to look at...
"Since when does six months of labour constitute a 'life's work?'"
Actually, it is more like 6 YEARS, which is a significant time spent on a project. And ya, he does come off as a bit pissy, but ya know what, cut the man some slack... He spent a long time doing something that(even if he shouldn't have) he thought would lead to an income, or atleast, he thought it SHOULD lead to one given the interests corporations have had in his project.
It is GPLed software, and that is how it goes sometimes, a company can 'steal' your project code and not hire you or pay homage to your hardwork, that pissed this guy off.
"learn damnit, learn!"
Joshua: "...the only way to win, is to not play the game"
:)
"I have spent years explaining to relatives that the same file name in 2 places is 2 different files."
Two peices of paper with the same title on them in two different folders in a file cabinet are still two different peices of paper, regardless of if they have the same title on them...
I call BS if you say that you can tell them that and they still look cross-eyed at you.
"One for windows, one for linux, one for routers/switches... "
So all that would be left are those darn mac users.... Good thing they Thought Different, aye?
My only question to him is: How could those needs not be met in a Windows XP envrioment?"
Well i have a second question... why not have buy a cheapo laptop for 300 or 400 dollars and save big money over a tableyPC, and the laptop supports Linux fully? or why not just buy a palm?
No, to me it sounds like Mircosoft trying to create a demand for what they supply... Convince users that they need a tabletPC rather than a laptop, and then sell them that tabletPC for a nice profit.
Microsoft went into the console market with 2 billion dollars set iside... they said "ok, we got 2 billion, buy a cool console and sell it to as many people as possible, we can make money later"... the plan worked, and they are number 2 in the game market.
It is nsa.gov, and you had to ASSUME it was legit? do you think our spies have a sense of humor or something?
nah, the NRA would have our backs:)
i agreed with you, until that arrogant statement at the end... I am an American, I like having an Army that makes me feel safe, but I still believe our's is too large and too expensive. We SHOULD cut back.
But as for being liberated.... Why don't you go ask the people who were shreaded in the plastic recycler (while their family watched) for not being a loyal follower, and see what they think about being liberated....
who cares if you think we had just cause going over their to Iraq(i am iffy on our 'just' cause) but the fact is: we took a bad, oppresive, evil man out of power. That is ALWAYS a Good Thing.