Beams? Beams?! Luxery! We had to use each other for beams, it took a team of us to cross the devide and we then had to plug ourselves in to make a connection! But did we complain? No! We liked electrocuting everyone in the daisychain! It made us feel like MEN! Not like today when youngsters complain about luxuries . . .
What kind of work are you wanting to do with it? Installation drawings? Actual architectural (as in structural) work? 'Just' visualisation? That kinda determines the package I'd recommend.
If it's for mech. eng. drawing (native 3d, great conversion to 2d construction drawings, but no simulation), then there's one not-all-that-well-known package called IronCAD, which rocks, period. Cheap, too.
Nowadays, in the world of 3d engineering (and actually well before that), AutoCAD sucks. It got marginaly better at R14, but R13 is even more of a UI hell than normal.
But then again, pro/E runs (or will run very shortly) on linux...not the best of packages, but not the worst either.
Yup; anyone who has been quoted by a journalist knows how little you can trust the news as it is reported...it's really surprising how badly one can be misquoted.
I can't agree with you: real is whatever you percieve real to be. You can look at it in a number of ways; you can say that the world the software creates is real, because obviously people spend a lot of time there. That is where their emotions are projected, even if they're sitting in fornt of their pc's; they're not involved/interacting with the environment around their physical location: their attention is in a world far away.
Or you could be nitpicky and say "that virtual world is real, because it is composed of bits and bytes on a harddisk on a server somehow, and since when are electrons not real?
I mean, come on...if we're as advanced as we seem to think we are, we should have been able to land something on it on jan 8, 2003.
Yeah, I know, that kind of thing is complex, but I feel we should have that spurious launch capability...god knows it would save us if we ever met something like what hit Jupiter a couple of years back.
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Well, thanks for the recomendations:thumbup:...but why RH 7.3, and not 7.? or 8.0? And why not go straight for Debian? I'm not a straight-up win-zombie, having used the old apple ][ clone and dos from it's beginnings, and I actually like the command line, sometimes;) Also, I do actually know what kind of hardware I've got in my pc, up to and including the bios revisions...should I still give Debian (or the like) a pass until I get the hang of RH?
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No, 3.0 is divisable by two, leaving 1.5, so I'm assuming the 3.0 kernal is stable (but then again, 3 is an odd number, so I'm not sure.
As for Maya, the basic package is $2000. Which my boss has paid for, so I can also work at home. Works fine on my current setup, but rendering is slow...and hell yeah I'd prefer to use my work box, but I don't make enough to have a $10.000 box at home. Anyway, as long as I do have a second system, I was hoping to get my home rendering to go a bit faster...so would you when you hit more than 2 minutes per frame.
And anyway, who's the troll, AC?
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I'm going to buy a new system in a month or so, and a stable linux 3.0 (I've heard the odd/even thing...3.0 is divisible to 1.5...right?) seems like a good excuse to finally install linux. So my old system (PIII 550, 448 ram, gforce 2mx) is something I'm going to experiment with and I'm thinking of installing a brand of linux.
So here's my questions: -what brand? Slackware, Debian, Redhat, other? I'd also like to know why that particular flavour. -which docs should I read? Preferably some short docs to get me running ASAP, while telling me what I need to know about stuff like vi, emacs, x window and the different desktop managers I can install. At the moment, there is so much info lying around that I just don't know where to start. -I'm going to use the system as a home server (files, mp3's, documents [kind of like a second screen thing]) and I'm gonna try and run some distributed rendering on it. Now as far as I know (which isn't very far:) ) Maya will only run under Redhat...is that so? What are my options?
So basically, I'm a linux newbie wannabe. Where do I start?
Hmmm...so maybe it's interesting to note the young 'uns interest in all things dirty: mud, poop, chewed gum on the pavement.
It kind of fits in the theory that you/your body DOES know what's best for it...just like a pregnant women will (and should) eat whatever she feels like, this behaviour might actually be 'hardwired'. As in, expose yourself to as many bugs as possible, 'cos your immune system will learn from it (or you'll die, but then you just wren't good enough and you're just another stepping stone for evolution to funtion by [yeah, anthropomorphisation, but you get the point]).
No, that's been around for a while. I'll tell you what has been on the rise though: cell phones and wireless. These have been proliferating like mad...and especially around us geeks. Food for thought, that.
But come on, do you really, seriously think an increase in radiation (just energy, not talking radioactive here) so huge as in the past few years has no effect WHATSOEVER on the human physiology?
Just as an aside: what the big boys do is use Maya to model and animate the scene and Softimage to animate the characters. Then render out to Renderman, and finally combine the two (and add other effects/ backgrounds etc.) using a compositer like Combustion.
Why the rigamarole? Because Maya is the best modeler around (so they say), Softimage is best for easy and good character animation and Renderman is one of the best renderers. And if they really have the money they use Houdini to make the particle effects.
Fur, renderer only? You have no clue. You have to be able to manage your fur...form what the renderer is goingg to display...you need that control.
SubD is Subdivision tools..very handy (think NURBS controlled by a vertex box). And it's used by Maya, 3ds max, softimage and houdini.
As for a cryptic UI for particles...well, that says it all, doesn't it? Same for the UV mapping, etc. it might be there, but it needs to be easily usable, or it's kinda useless.
And that's basically Blender at the moment, really. A cool tool, but not yet ready for the bigtime. not by a long shot. It just needs a couple of years of work.
That's odd...I started getting the error right after I inserted a new stick off ram, and it stopped after I took it out. I then decided the extra ram was worth the hassle of having to reset occasionally, so I plonked it back in (hey, I need the ram for my 3d work:) ). Got a new trackball and keyboard after that, and nothing (else) changed...so I'm sticking with the bad ram story:)
Anyway, what works works, so if it's fixed, don't break it;)
Yeah, and it pisses me off;I'm an englishman living in the Netherlands, and every so often games get released here which are dutch only. And I WANT my englishlanguage version. It sometimes takes me weeks to track one down. Even if your language argument made sense, I'd still want the right to choose myself.
I heard about that radar wavelenght thing too; physics seeem to back it up:)...and just recently/. posted a story about being able to use cell phone masts to pick up stealth craft.
As for taking out the F117...well, that's just because the dumb people planning those attacks (yes, I am talking about the US here) used THE SAME ATTACK FLIGHT PLAN EVERY DAY FOR A WEEK!
Yes, that's plain stupidity, to have your planes fly over the same route every day. Even if it is stealth...it's a friggin' plane! You can hear it for miles 'round!
On the fact that changing your radar apparatus from long wave emission to short wavelenghts (or the other way 'round, don't remember...but that's not the point: the point is that all of the worlds radar works on iether long or short waves) will effectively reduce stealth technology to being quite ineffective.
It's an expensive change, but it's happening already. Hell, there was just an article here on/. which basically said that if you operate mobile phones in your airspace, you can catch stealth planes. Stealth is only a temporary (albeit very effective while it lasts) advantage.
Shows Boeing knows what it's doing; just like IBM is getting out of the HD business, Boeing gets out of the manned fighter biz...both are going to be obsolete: fixed state memory (holographic, chipbased or otherwise) and UCAV's are the future.
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"...and those huge, huge objects that were so very far away..."
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Guess not, eh
So when we crash a satelite into it to see what it's made of, we'll hear "Bongggg!" ?
Beams? Beams?! Luxery! We had to use each other for beams, it took a team of us to cross the devide and we then had to plug ourselves in to make a connection! But did we complain? No! We liked electrocuting everyone in the daisychain! It made us feel like MEN! Not like today when youngsters complain about luxuries . . .
What kind of work are you wanting to do with it? Installation drawings? Actual architectural (as in structural) work? 'Just' visualisation? That kinda determines the package I'd recommend.
If it's for mech. eng. drawing (native 3d, great conversion to 2d construction drawings, but no simulation), then there's one not-all-that-well-known package called IronCAD, which rocks, period. Cheap, too.
Nowadays, in the world of 3d engineering (and actually well before that), AutoCAD sucks. It got marginaly better at R14, but R13 is even more of a UI hell than normal.
But then again, pro/E runs (or will run very shortly) on linux...not the best of packages, but not the worst either.
Yup; anyone who has been quoted by a journalist knows how little you can trust the news as it is reported...it's really surprising how badly one can be misquoted.
I can't agree with you: real is whatever you percieve real to be. You can look at it in a number of ways; you can say that the world the software creates is real, because obviously people spend a lot of time there. That is where their emotions are projected, even if they're sitting in fornt of their pc's; they're not involved/interacting with the environment around their physical location: their attention is in a world far away.
Or you could be nitpicky and say "that virtual world is real, because it is composed of bits and bytes on a harddisk on a server somehow, and since when are electrons not real?
So? What business and prices all come down to is NOT supply and demand...a price is set by whatever a fool is willing to pay!
Look at Magic cards...now that's 'printing money'...the more they print, the more they sell, the more money they get (they being WOTC).
Baka right back at ya...and remember, everyone is baka somewhere.
I mean, come on...if we're as advanced as we seem to think we are, we should have been able to land something on it on jan 8, 2003.
Yeah, I know, that kind of thing is complex, but I feel we should have that spurious launch capability...god knows it would save us if we ever met something like what hit Jupiter a couple of years back.
Well, thanks for the recomendations :thumbup:...but why RH 7.3, and not 7.? or 8.0? And why not go straight for Debian? I'm not a straight-up win-zombie, having used the old apple ][ clone and dos from it's beginnings, and I actually like the command line, sometimes ;) Also, I do actually know what kind of hardware I've got in my pc, up to and including the bios revisions...should I still give Debian (or the like) a pass until I get the hang of RH?
No, 3.0 is divisable by two, leaving 1.5, so I'm assuming the 3.0 kernal is stable (but then again, 3 is an odd number, so I'm not sure.
As for Maya, the basic package is $2000. Which my boss has paid for, so I can also work at home. Works fine on my current setup, but rendering is slow...and hell yeah I'd prefer to use my work box, but I don't make enough to have a $10.000 box at home. Anyway, as long as I do have a second system, I was hoping to get my home rendering to go a bit faster...so would you when you hit more than 2 minutes per frame.
And anyway, who's the troll, AC?
I'm going to buy a new system in a month or so, and a stable linux 3.0 (I've heard the odd/even thing...3.0 is divisible to 1.5...right?) seems like a good excuse to finally install linux.
:) ) Maya will only run under Redhat...is that so? What are my options?
So my old system (PIII 550, 448 ram, gforce 2mx) is something I'm going to experiment with and I'm thinking of installing a brand of linux.
So here's my questions:
-what brand? Slackware, Debian, Redhat, other? I'd also like to know why that particular flavour.
-which docs should I read? Preferably some short docs to get me running ASAP, while telling me what I need to know about stuff like vi, emacs, x window and the different desktop managers I can install. At the moment, there is so much info lying around that I just don't know where to start.
-I'm going to use the system as a home server (files, mp3's, documents [kind of like a second screen thing]) and I'm gonna try and run some distributed rendering on it. Now as far as I know (which isn't very far
So basically, I'm a linux newbie wannabe. Where do I start?
Hmmm...so maybe it's interesting to note the young 'uns interest in all things dirty: mud, poop, chewed gum on the pavement.
It kind of fits in the theory that you/your body DOES know what's best for it...just like a pregnant women will (and should) eat whatever she feels like, this behaviour might actually be 'hardwired'.
As in, expose yourself to as many bugs as possible, 'cos your immune system will learn from it (or you'll die, but then you just wren't good enough and you're just another stepping stone for evolution to funtion by [yeah, anthropomorphisation, but you get the point]).
No, that's been around for a while. I'll tell you what has been on the rise though: cell phones and wireless. These have been proliferating like mad...and especially around us geeks. Food for thought, that.
But come on, do you really, seriously think an increase in radiation (just energy, not talking radioactive here) so huge as in the past few years has no effect WHATSOEVER on the human physiology?
"also needs to be able to model and animate the scene, and PovRay is mostly unsuitable for those things"
Hello, clueless: POVRay isn't a modeler...it's a renderer.
You forgot Houdini for the particle effects :)
Just as an aside: what the big boys do is use Maya to model and animate the scene and Softimage to animate the characters. Then render out to Renderman, and finally combine the two (and add other effects/ backgrounds etc.) using a compositer like Combustion.
Why the rigamarole? Because Maya is the best modeler around (so they say), Softimage is best for easy and good character animation and Renderman is one of the best renderers. And if they really have the money they use Houdini to make the particle effects.
Fur, renderer only? You have no clue. You have to be able to manage your fur...form what the renderer is goingg to display...you need that control.
SubD is Subdivision tools..very handy (think NURBS controlled by a vertex box). And it's used by Maya, 3ds max, softimage and houdini.
As for a cryptic UI for particles...well, that says it all, doesn't it? Same for the UV mapping, etc. it might be there, but it needs to be easily usable, or it's kinda useless.
And that's basically Blender at the moment, really. A cool tool, but not yet ready for the bigtime. not by a long shot. It just needs a couple of years of work.
That's odd...I started getting the error right after I inserted a new stick off ram, and it stopped after I took it out. I then decided the extra ram was worth the hassle of having to reset occasionally, so I plonked it back in (hey, I need the ram for my 3d work :) ). :)
;)
Got a new trackball and keyboard after that, and nothing (else) changed...so I'm sticking with the bad ram story
Anyway, what works works, so if it's fixed, don't break it
Yeah...that's slightly bad RAM...funnily enough it only seems to cause me problems on startup though.
Yeah, and it pisses me off;I'm an englishman living in the Netherlands, and every so often games get released here which are dutch only. And I WANT my englishlanguage version. It sometimes takes me weeks to track one down. Even if your language argument made sense, I'd still want the right to choose myself.
I heard about that radar wavelenght thing too; physics seeem to back it up :)...and just recently /. posted a story about being able to use cell phone masts to pick up stealth craft.
As for taking out the F117...well, that's just because the dumb people planning those attacks (yes, I am talking about the US here) used THE SAME ATTACK FLIGHT PLAN EVERY DAY FOR A WEEK!
Yes, that's plain stupidity, to have your planes fly over the same route every day. Even if it is stealth...it's a friggin' plane! You can hear it for miles 'round!
On the fact that changing your radar apparatus from long wave emission to short wavelenghts (or the other way 'round, don't remember...but that's not the point: the point is that all of the worlds radar works on iether long or short waves) will effectively reduce stealth technology to being quite ineffective.
/. which basically said that if you operate mobile phones in your airspace, you can catch stealth planes. Stealth is only a temporary (albeit very effective while it lasts) advantage.
It's an expensive change, but it's happening already. Hell, there was just an article here on
Shows Boeing knows what it's doing; just like IBM is getting out of the HD business, Boeing gets out of the manned fighter biz...both are going to be obsolete: fixed state memory (holographic, chipbased or otherwise) and UCAV's are the future.