That's my point exactly, tell me when you find an alien that makes telly!
Now, I'm interested!
btw, I am a higher-order chauvinist... not that I want to interfere with 'life' on Venus or in Pluto... I'm quite happy for them to spore and swirl in anyway they want to - if they are there at all...
maybe I didn't make my point clear enough though: 'strange swirls equals life' is quite a leap of faith.. and that's my biggest issue with these constant rehashes of these dubious 'evidence' of 'life'...
Do we really have to go through this again? We'd already done swirling mists on Venus - then Pluto's frozen oceans.. now we're back on the swirling mists of Venus - I don't think anything has changed:
Some swirling anamolies 'could be life'... yeah right!?
I don't care - bacteria, it's not relevant...it's a far cry from 'life'... in any interesting sense.. and it's also only a =maybe= 'bacteria'....
Give us a digital watch (secondhand or so)... or a sock or a hat... a machine that goes 'ping' or 'beep'.. but weird swirls - there's more than one of those in the universe... even more than one in the solar system - no doubt.
Isn't what he did funny, at worst? He didn't ruin anyone else's land... and maybe his next trick will be with sulfur or chlorine, or so... and then the lake won't be so basic.
Long live idiotic experiments! It's the unethical and moronic that make the best breakthroughs in science.. (not that I'm calling this experiment a 'breakthrough'.. I'm just saying, moronic is good when it comes to new 'experiments' or data gathering.)
In the Netherlands, you just tell the "town hall" that your address has changed (and what it changed to) and they tell everyone else for you...
It would be remarkably better than having to tell each and every entity that uses your address individually - but then there's always that ugly privacy issue...
(On the other hand, if you're really lucky, the town hall will give you a bus tour of the town:)
Disclaimer: this is not my quote - and I do not subscribe to it - in fact I had to give up a perfectly good career because of it.
"Seven atoms reproducing themselves in a beaker - that's my definition of life" - a guy from my Ecology course, who is probably making a fortune as a biologist now.
As you are going out in the boat, to get near the whales... then it's all rocks and waves and weeds being mistaken...
But.. er... maybe this is a sign that we are getting close to seeing some real aliens - complete with digital watches, and something far more tangible and pleasant than strange gases and frozen oceans..:)
Poor microbes.. first they don't exist.. then they get frozen into some sordid spiritual debate - and now they're homeless!!
I'm going to start a fund - and get some ex-celebs to sing about their plight!
Is it just me...
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or do we (the human race) go...
ohhhh... on this strange planet there is this bizaare anamoly... i bet it's life!
and it is just me, or is that rather naive.
For me, you want to prove to me there is life somewhere else... don't say, look at the strange gases on Venus (well, der)...or look at the ice-cold water on Pluto... show me a digital watch (and not one Neil Armstrong left on the moon, or a little robot that NASA forgot on Mars)... Or give me an ET encounter... or something that makes you go "Man, that's got some organic extraterristrial backing!"
In space, strange things happen that we just don't understand.. It's been happening for such a long time without human approval or knowledge... it is such a long leap to go "Wow! This is strange! I bet a life-force is behind it!"
And please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there aren't aliens out there - I'm just saying it's a lot like whale-watching: "Wow, is that a whale?!" "No... it's a rock" "Wow, is that a whale?!" "No, it's a wave" "Wow, is that a whale?!" "No, it's a weed"...
Somebody please wake me when there is either a whale or life out there!
There was a game during this era, just before Hitchhikers... and it had 'text-based graphics'... and you end up in a cannibal's cauldron, where someone says "NESSEN" - and if you manage to escape, then you need to fly the plane: North, East, South, South, East then North. Now, why the chief of cannibal's codes this into his own language, I never worked out... and now, what's even worse, I can't remember the name of the game. But it was good!
How Aussies have always dealt with big-noting Americans trying to take over our business... well it used to be, and maybe Telstra will have to resort to these tactics to rid themselves of the Microsoft menace.
I wonder if Balmer is into Pig Shooting ?
If all the worlds a stage... who's watching?
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If biologist can make such statements as: "7 atoms reproducing in a beaker - that's my definion of life"... then there is a good chance they consider that there is life on Venus.
But, er... don't think that will cut it on any theological argument - or any non-delusional discussion, or any where else important... maybe slashdot?
What do you mean... it protected the Franklin River, didn't it?:P Have you seen The Castle? It protected those guys too - it's the vibe of the thing - really!
It's not a bad old bird, really - and it allows changes as is appropriate, rather than being a document spawned in a civil war with no room to grow... It ain't perfect - but it ain't bad either.
Actually, Australia's constitution came into effect on 1 Jan 1901 - the day we federated. So it was quite a significant day. It established and defined the relationship between the all states. It took a long time to develop - and was done by a group of clear-thinking, diverse people in a fiery debate - where no one got killed.
(People often walked out, but no one got killed. And the process went for years) until finally the fiction that is the Australian constitution was born. Somehow, we managed to develop a Clayton's monarchy, (the monarchy you have when you're not having a monarchy).
And now lots of people want to change the constitution - because of this very clever fiction. But I'm sure in the process they'll remove a lot of the freedoms that are currently afforded to Australian's if they are allowed to change it one iota. Then we won't be able to walk down the street with the right to be free from fear of drive-by shootings and there will proabably be more allowances and less restrictions phone tappings by incompetent organisations like ASIO.
If ASIO were so good at tapping phones, how come the newspaper knows about it? Is it just me, or is the real story - we know about more Aussies having their phones tapped than we know about American phones being tapped?
Now the CIA, there's an agency that really knows where its towel is (and how to keep its phone-tapping under wraps).
Now, I choose to ride on a roller coaster that goes 5.6G, causing more stress for me and the machine I am on.
I choose to accept the increased risk that this entails.
I will enjoy the difference that exists between taking a corner at 4.6G and 5.6G.
Please feel free to make the safer choice. Thank you once again for your insight and concern. Now, thank you for letting me live my life the way I choose.
I choose also, not to sue - with all rights, comes some responsibility.
You don't have to increase the risk/punishment to further the war on crime... this would be 'an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff'... You *could* put a 'fence at the top' - and remove the =reward= of dealing drugs. If you make it illegal to trade in drugs - if you allow people to use them, and grow them, make them or supply them, but BAN outright the trade/economy of drugs... then the whole nasty element of the drug culture goes away.
I'll go slowly - it would be ok for your mother to give you a kilo of coke for christmas - but if you gave her a cent for 'lab equipment' or anything else, then you both go to gaol.
The value of drugs would fall so dramatically that it just wouldn't be worth trying to sell them (which would be illegal).
A gardener could grow hemp instead of roses, and as long as he didn't charge for anything, he could share his spoils with whomever he wanted to...
Nobody needs to break into anybody's house then, well, not to get drugs at any rate.
And you could even be surer about the quality of the drugs - being able to get them from a respectable supplier - universities (not that they'll be able to receive funding or donations as a result), hospitals, chemists, etc.
TV Detector Man:...We know you've got a telly - we detected it! Neil: Oh, so you've just been playing with me all along? TV Detector Man: Yes... It's better than playing with yourself.. Haha, cheap inuendoes help make the world go round. Now, where's your telly? Mike: [Pushing past Neil.. but not letting the TV Detector man see into the house] You haven't introduced me to your friend, Neil... Neil: Er.. Mike this is.. the TV detector man... TV Detector Man: The name's Bastard - but you can call me RightBleedin'.. all my friends do - well he did... until I killed him... [pushing through the door]... Now, about your telly... [seeing Vivien with a electrical cord hanging out of his mouth] You're nicked sunshine! Vivien: [pointing to mouth] It's a toaster. TVDM: It's a telly! It's a telly!! Mike: Telly or toaster - the contents of my colleague's stomach are his own. TVDM: Oh, I can wait.. I'm very good at waiting... Now, which way to the toilet.
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Poor Nintendo - or going for a walk. ;)
That's my point exactly, tell me when you find an alien that makes telly!
Now, I'm interested!
btw, I am a higher-order chauvinist... not that I want to interfere with 'life' on Venus or in Pluto... I'm quite happy for them to spore and swirl in anyway they want to - if they are there at all...
maybe I didn't make my point clear enough though:
'strange swirls equals life' is quite a leap of faith.. and that's my biggest issue with these constant rehashes of these dubious 'evidence' of 'life'...
Do we really have to go through this again? We'd already done swirling mists on Venus - then Pluto's frozen oceans.. now we're back on the swirling mists of Venus - I don't think anything has changed:
.it's a far cry from 'life'... in any interesting sense.. and it's also only a =maybe= 'bacteria'....
Some swirling anamolies 'could be life'... yeah right!?
I don't care - bacteria, it's not relevant..
Give us a digital watch (secondhand or so)... or a sock or a hat... a machine that goes 'ping' or 'beep'..
but weird swirls - there's more than one of those in the universe... even more than one in the solar system - no doubt.
Why are people getting so grumpy with this guy?
Isn't what he did funny, at worst? He didn't ruin anyone else's land... and maybe his next trick will be with sulfur or chlorine, or so... and then the lake won't be so basic.
Long live idiotic experiments! It's the unethical and moronic that make the best breakthroughs in science.. (not that I'm calling this experiment a 'breakthrough'.. I'm just saying, moronic is good when it comes to new 'experiments' or data gathering.)
Ooooooooohhhhhh... pweedi budde'fwies!
In the Netherlands, you just tell the "town hall" that your address has changed (and what it changed to) and they tell everyone else for you...
:)
It would be remarkably better than having to tell each and every entity that uses your address individually - but then there's always that ugly privacy issue...
(On the other hand, if you're really lucky, the town hall will give you a bus tour of the town
You bet!! Where can I buy one!?
If a beeper went off, would that be inconsiderate?
Disclaimer: this is not my quote - and I do not subscribe to it - in fact I had to give up a perfectly good career because of it.
"Seven atoms reproducing themselves in a beaker - that's my definition of life" - a guy from my Ecology course, who is probably making a fortune as a biologist now.
Scientists can be so gullible.
I think the Simpsons changed enough to fit the longer timeslot... and I guess they should be able to change again...
Can't help but feel they left their run too late for the movie though...
*shrug*
As you are going out in the boat, to get near the whales... then it's all rocks and waves and weeds being mistaken...
:)
But.. er... maybe this is a sign that we are getting close to seeing some real aliens - complete with digital watches, and something far more tangible and pleasant than strange gases and frozen oceans..
*cross fingers*
(I really hate Anonymous Cowards)
I hope all those little 'care packages' we send out into space include deodorant!
Poor microbes.. first they don't exist.. then they get frozen into some sordid spiritual debate - and now they're homeless!!
I'm going to start a fund - and get some ex-celebs to sing about their plight!
or do we (the human race) go...
ohhhh... on this strange planet there is this bizaare anamoly... i bet it's life!
and it is just me, or is that rather naive.
For me, you want to prove to me there is life somewhere else... don't say, look at the strange gases on Venus (well, der)...or look at the ice-cold water on Pluto... show me a digital watch (and not one Neil Armstrong left on the moon, or a little robot that NASA forgot on Mars)... Or give me an ET encounter... or something that makes you go "Man, that's got some organic extraterristrial backing!"
In space, strange things happen that we just don't understand.. It's been happening for such a long time without human approval or knowledge... it is such a long leap to go "Wow! This is strange! I bet a life-force is behind it!"
And please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there aren't aliens out there - I'm just saying it's a lot like whale-watching:
"Wow, is that a whale?!" "No... it's a rock"
"Wow, is that a whale?!" "No, it's a wave"
"Wow, is that a whale?!" "No, it's a weed"...
Somebody please wake me when there is either a whale or life out there!
There was a game during this era, just before Hitchhikers... and it had 'text-based graphics'... and you end up in a cannibal's cauldron, where someone says "NESSEN" - and if you manage to escape, then you need to fly the plane: North, East, South, South, East then North.
Now, why the chief of cannibal's codes this into his own language, I never worked out...
and now, what's even worse, I can't remember the name of the game. But it was good!
Anyone?...
How Aussies have always dealt with big-noting Americans trying to take over our business... well it used to be, and maybe Telstra will have to resort to these tactics to rid themselves of the Microsoft menace.
I wonder if Balmer is into Pig Shooting ?
The retired space monkeys?
If biologist can make such statements as: "7 atoms reproducing in a beaker - that's my definion of life"... then there is a good chance they consider that there is life on Venus.
But, er... don't think that will cut it on any theological argument - or any non-delusional discussion, or any where else important... maybe slashdot?
What do you mean... it protected the Franklin River, didn't it? :P
:)
Have you seen The Castle? It protected those guys too - it's the vibe of the thing - really!
It's not a bad old bird, really - and it allows changes as is appropriate, rather than being a document spawned in a civil war with no room to grow... It ain't perfect - but it ain't bad either.
(I'm having fun, but not trolling
Actually, Australia's constitution came into effect on 1 Jan 1901 - the day we federated. So it was quite a significant day. It established and defined the relationship between the all states. It took a long time to develop - and was done by a group of clear-thinking, diverse people in a fiery debate - where no one got killed.
(People often walked out, but no one got killed. And the process went for years) until finally the fiction that is the Australian constitution was born. Somehow, we managed to develop a Clayton's monarchy, (the monarchy you have when you're not having a monarchy).
And now lots of people want to change the constitution - because of this very clever fiction. But I'm sure in the process they'll remove a lot of the freedoms that are currently afforded to Australian's if they are allowed to change it one iota. Then we won't be able to walk down the street with the right to be free from fear of drive-by shootings and there will proabably be more allowances and less restrictions phone tappings by incompetent organisations like ASIO.
If ASIO were so good at tapping phones, how come the newspaper knows about it? Is it just me, or is the real story - we know about more Aussies having their phones tapped than we know about American phones being tapped?
Now the CIA, there's an agency that really knows where its towel is (and how to keep its phone-tapping under wraps).
We can restrict the biological force of evolution, like we can restrict the G's a roller coaster can pull...
The question is, should we?
Now, I choose to ride on a roller coaster that goes 5.6G, causing more stress for me and the machine I am on.
I choose to accept the increased risk that this entails.
I will enjoy the difference that exists between taking a corner at 4.6G and 5.6G.
Please feel free to make the safer choice. Thank you once again for your insight and concern. Now, thank you for letting me live my life the way I choose.
I choose also, not to sue - with all rights, comes some responsibility.
You don't have to increase the risk/punishment to further the war on crime... this would be 'an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff'... You *could* put a 'fence at the top' - and remove the =reward= of dealing drugs. If you make it illegal to trade in drugs - if you allow people to use them, and grow them, make them or supply them, but BAN outright the trade/economy of drugs... then the whole nasty element of the drug culture goes away.
I'll go slowly - it would be ok for your mother to give you a kilo of coke for christmas - but if you gave her a cent for 'lab equipment' or anything else, then you both go to gaol.
The value of drugs would fall so dramatically that it just wouldn't be worth trying to sell them (which would be illegal).
A gardener could grow hemp instead of roses, and as long as he didn't charge for anything, he could share his spoils with whomever he wanted to...
Nobody needs to break into anybody's house then, well, not to get drugs at any rate.
And you could even be surer about the quality of the drugs - being able to get them from a respectable supplier - universities (not that they'll be able to receive funding or donations as a result), hospitals, chemists, etc.
Now that's freedom.
Only in Parkes. The real proof comes from the movie: "The Dish"
TV Detector Man: ...We know you've got a telly - we detected it! ... Now, about your telly... [seeing Vivien with a electrical cord hanging out of his mouth] You're nicked sunshine!
Neil: Oh, so you've just been playing with me all along?
TV Detector Man: Yes... It's better than playing with yourself.. Haha, cheap inuendoes help make the world go round. Now, where's your telly?
Mike: [Pushing past Neil.. but not letting the TV Detector man see into the house] You haven't introduced me to your friend, Neil...
Neil: Er.. Mike this is.. the TV detector man...
TV Detector Man: The name's Bastard - but you can call me RightBleedin'.. all my friends do - well he did... until I killed him... [pushing through the door]
Vivien: [pointing to mouth] It's a toaster.
TVDM: It's a telly! It's a telly!!
Mike: Telly or toaster - the contents of my colleague's stomach are his own.
TVDM: Oh, I can wait.. I'm very good at waiting... Now, which way to the toilet.